Yamaha Tenere 700 VS KTM 390 Adventure

[@Hammerhead812]

I love my 390. Perfect for me and my situation. 67 y.o. all major joints replaced so I wanted something that if I drop it (which I have) I can pick it up myself. I ride alone 99.9% of the time. As far as reliability issues, none. Even the common ones you here about stalling and not finding neutral, none. I'm a firm believer in taking care of the bike and, it will take care of you. I've done numerous mods to the bike (too many to mention here. (besides my wife may read this).

[@RC-br1ps]

😅😂👏

[@scottsmith1897]

In the same boat with the 390 love mine and yes easy to pick up......... 55 and love it....

[@advmatt]

@@Hammerhead812 right on. Do anything you have to in order to keep riding. The 390 does it. Your secret spending habits are safe here!

[@numbum9394]

I also have 390, the only "broken" thing is quickshifter. Downshifts are working ok, but upshifts only work smooth from odd gear into even ones. The rest are so hard I almost break my foot.

[@advmatt]

@@numbum9394 I have not heard of that problem. I don't have a quick shifter, but I have found it shifts really easily clutchless.

[@manugrend]

I really appreciate the "no spec sheet" information. It's what we are all looking for but find so hard to find. Thanks Matt for your putting your time and efforts into explaining your experiences with us! They're priceless! 👍💯

[@advmatt]

@@manugrend thanks for the feedback.

[@nestrada19740]

One of the best videos I´ve seen. Well explained, good topics to compare. Thanks.

[@advmatt]

@@nestrada19740 thanks for the feedback.

[@johnman7251]

This comparison was well thought out and very thorough Matt. You brought up a lot of things that most of us don’t consider when bike shopping. As much as I like Yamahas there was no way I could consider the Tenere. It’s too tall and top heavy. The 390 is approachable in both size and price. I wanted to add an adventure bike to my dirt and street bike stable and this little KTM has far exceeded my expectations.

[@advmatt]

@@johnman7251 it is such a great bike, and super fun. Thanks for the feedback.

[@Hutchie2112]

I owned both at the same time. Loved the Tenere 700, but kept the 390 Adventure. Reason was primarily weight and height. At 65 years old, very unfit and with a wrecked shoulder, always solo riding, I was increasingly fearful of dropping the Tenere offroad and being screwed. The 390 is so much lighter, and on the roads and trails I ride, easily as quick. Much better fuel economy, plus (and I know it is really subjective but...) tubeless tyres for the win every day. Easy sticky worm plug and ride on. And the fuel cap on the Yamaha is a nightmare, got to find somewhere to put it (with the key still in it) while filling up, and as you say, the filler hole is horrible. Never had an issue on either bike , other than a rear indicator (blinker) that failed due to water getting in it on the 390 , easy fix. The 390 is grossly underrated and overlooked. I love the thing. Traction control, lean sensitive abs, backlit controls, bluetooth music etc etc, it's a high spec easy to ride do it all bike. (But the Tenere does look much cooler ;)

[@advmatt]

@@Hutchie2112 I am with you on everything. The T7 looks super cool, but the 390 is much more fun.

[@nostraware]

I love my 390 Adv too. We don't have long stretches of road so it being punchy on low to mid rpm and having a 300km range is more than enough for me. I do dig the T7 tho, might get it if I have a chance lol.

[@dudemakingtracks]

I will not call myself a 'biker' just yet and intend to start a bit of dirt trail riding soon. I ride a Honda Magna V65 which is beautiful on distance tar but too heavy for me off-road. I am no longer as fit or strong as I should be (78) for this bike. I take delivery of my KTM 390 ADV tomorrow and why I have been watching/ following up on the channels promoting and reviewing the 390. I have enjoyed the honesty of your channel Matt, have subscribed and will follow. Thanks

[@advmatt]

@@dudemakingtracks thanks for the feedback. I have a lot of 390 content. It is a great bike and is very capable. You won't regret the purchase.

[@tomthornetech]

I wish I had this video about a month ago XD I traded my 390 for a T700 at the end of June and I agree with you across the board. I needed my bike to cover some use cases that were just outside of the 390's capability. Taking a passenger is far more doable on the T700 when I alone am 1/2 the weight capacity of the 390. The additional power obviously helping there too. I'm 6' and 245lbs and the ergonomics difference is massive. I was looking at the cost to get the 390 where I needed it and it was going to cost about as much as it did to get the Tenere. Standing on the bike in particular is way more confidence inspiring on the T7. My brother in law is 6' 2" and has similar ergonomic struggles with his 390, particularly while standing. I live in Utah and my commute takes me over the point of the mountain with a solid headwind 9/10 times. I found that in their stock forms, the wind protection and buffeting was significantly better on the Tenere, and the additional torque make dealing with those headwinds on I-15 significantly better. The wind noise is notably quieter, I can get another 20mph faster on the T7 before I start needing earplugs. So far I've found the Tenere far easier to take over long distances. I can cover about twice the distance before I start to feel it. That's generally translates to 2x the distance overall with 1/2 the stops. I'd attribute a lot of that to the difference in wind buffeting, and the other part to the ergonomics. I had the Ergo seat for the 390 (for those owners that haven't upgraded yet, 11/10 would recommend) and I found that I was more comfortable on the narrower front part of the 390's seat and the Tenere's seat is really just a long cushy version of that. For folks that like the wider part farther back, you will likely be unhappy with a T7's stock seat. The one exception to that is the wrist pain/hand cramping caused by the throttle spring. It is *significantly* stiffer. I intend to try the throttle preload adjustment that Adventure Tomek shows in his "No More Wrist Pain..." video. I'll try and follow up here if it works. The wind screen is a little short on the T7 stock, but is still notably better than the 390's. So far I have felt that the suspensions seemed to be aimed at different obstacles. The 390 felt far more active which did better on the road and handled the small things a bit better, where the T7 feels like it wants me to jump it. It takes bigger hits a lot better, but I feel a lot of the smaller stuff. For me the T7 inspires the confidence to just send it offroad (tbh probably more than my skills can really support) which has made it a bit easier to stretch myself when out solo. The way that the the bike pushes the front wheel down when you apply throttle keeps it from being a wheelie machine, and a big it's part of why I haven't really noticed the lack of traction control. I found balance point or "tippiness" between the 2 to be about the same. The only difference is that as you cross the tipping point, there's an extra 50lbs you've got to stop on the T7. You do feel that weight if you've got to lift or load it. Getting the T7 into the back of a truck is 2-3x as hard and you definitely feel the weight if you've got to pick it up. Luckily I wasn't loaded that day. At higher altitudes the 390 struggles even more at low RPMs meaning you've got to ride it like you mean it. The fuel-x was on my wishlist but I didn't end up pulling the trigger on it before I traded in the 390. From the homework I've done, that seems to be a meaningful upgrade but for most of my time with the bike

[@advmatt]

Great descriptive experience on both bikes. My experience has been similar to yours, but I put a lot of effort getting the 390 ergonomics to fit me, but I am only 5'10". I will look into the throttle preload spring. That might really help, especially on long distance trips, if I ever take this bike out again. Thanks for sharing your experience. Cheers.

[@tomthornetech]

@@advmatt So I finally got around to trying the throttle preload spring adjustment. I dove through some forums and it seems like people had some very mixed results. For me it worked out well. The throttle spring is way lighter, almost too light. Where most folks ran into trouble was that the spring didn't have enough oomph in that position to fully close the throttle. Looks like I lucked out in that regard. I kinda wish I had something between the two but for now my body appreciates the lighter pull.

[@advmatt]

@@tomthornetech good to know that works. I will look into it. It sure would help on long trips.

[@MySeniorMoments]

I had both. I downsized from the T7 mainly because of weight and top heavy. I dropped the bike too much just moving it around, and it is not easy to lift. The 390 is light and nimble, but the ergonomics are not good if you are taller than about 5’9”. It also lacks in low speed torque compared to the T7. However I find the stock suspension to be just fine. I really enjoy the 390, but I wish the spoke wheels were tubeless (2023 and 2024 models).

[@advmatt]

@@MySeniorMoments the 390 is very capable bike, all be it with some ergonomic modifications like you mentioned. I saw your transition from the T7 to the 390. Good choice.

[@chrisbrown6279]

Great Video! I do love riding the 390 through the mountain west. However, the Mountain West wind factor is definitely one for prospective 390 riders to consider. I appreciate your thoughtfulness and the 390 Adv content. It's been super helpful for my journey with this bike.

[@advmatt]

Glad it has helped. Thanks for letting me know.

[@AlSynk]

Great video. Thanks for the info. I've never seen anyone compare gas caps before, but it's such a good point having a hinged gas cap. Even small details matter

[@advmatt]

The T7 gas cap annoys me so much and I spray fuel everywhere. I had to point it out.

[@Interbeing_CDN]

Thanks for sharing Matt. I have had my 390 Adv for about 10 months now and put just over 7,000 miles on it, enough to have pretty good feel for it. I would say that I don't believe that I have ever had to modify my previous bikes as much as I did the 390 to get it to the point that I had it dialed in to my liking. I do wish it had tubeless wheels, but it's not the end of the world. I may attempt a tubeless conversion at some point. That being said, for such a small bike, it has performed admirably, and while it struggles at highway speeds at times, especially with wind and semi traffic, it is an absolute hoot to ride around town, and is fairly competent off road, realizing that it isn't a enduro bike. I have had a few issues with the bike, but, like you, I have never been stranded on the side of the road,. and although I trust it more and more the longer I ride it, I still leave my ramps in the back of my truck when I am heading out riding, just in case my wife has to do a rescue run. It is a KTM after all, lol!

[@advmatt]

@@Interbeing_CDN for sure keep those ramps ready, it is a KTM. Make it easy on your wife. It is a very fun bike once you get it dialed in.

[@BR-ADV]

@@advmatt replying to you, in response to @Interbeing_CDM as well. Am I high, or aren't the stock 390 rims for tubeless tires? I have the 2023 version, with spoked wheels, and they had tubeless TKC 70s from the factory. Currently am running the tubeless Shinko 805/804s. I can't imagine the older gen with the alloy wheels were tubed only... ? And @advmatt I've never commented before but I watch your videos pretty frequently. You're a great source of information for this 390 adventure. First mod I did last year was the bar risers, which I used a link from one of your videos to purchase. Have agreed with pretty much every one of your opinions and mod choices after spending enough time on the bike to see what needs to change. Sometimes I don't know what's wrong, I just know SOMETHING is wrong, and then someone like you points out that it's probably the slanted foot pegs, or whatever else. So anyway, thanks for what you are doing. Inspirational and informative.

[@Interbeing_CDN]

@@BR-ADVMy 2023 is tube type spoked wheels. It did come stock with TKC70’s but with tubes. I am surprised that yours is tubeless, it’s the first time that I heard of anyone with the OEM spoked wheels that is tubeless. I would love to hear from anyone else that has tubeless spoked wheels on their 2023-2024 390 Adv as well.

[@RYwoodview]

@@Interbeing_CDN No, the 2023 has spoked wheels, tubeless tires that fit these rims, but require tubes. Makes no sense, I know. Spoked wheels were a big ask from the KTM Adv community, so we got them, but a spoked rim that can run just a tubeless tire is significantly more costly. Maybe the 2025?

[@bacbladerunner]

A great review with a different slant. I enjoyed it. And it just shows, again, how great our 390 is.

[@OneOldManRiding]

Bacbladerunner! Howdy! - Frank

[@bacbladerunner]

@OneOldManRiding Hi, Frank. I see you've been riding your 390 lately due to mice. I worked outside in 105 degree heat all day today to get ready to camp in the redwoods for five days with my girlfriend and popup trailer. No motorcycles this trip.

[@OneOldManRiding]

@@bacbladerunner Oh man now that sounds like a holiday camping trip for the ages! I hope you both enjoy the amazing Redwoods. Hopefully it's not 105! - Frank

[@advmatt]

@@bacbladerunner it is a great bike.

[@dwb3450]

Excellent review, good practical insights. I'm on a KTM 790R, have owned a 390 Duke, and am helping my sons pick a bike to get started. I might prefer the 390A over my 790R were it not for interstate travel I do each year from Seattle to La Ventana. The Tenere has a nice plush ride and a number of positives as you point out. I've owned several Yamaha's that were great (WR250R, R3) But the Tenere deal breakers for me are 1) range, 2) lack of cruise / cable throttle...and I don't believe you commented on tubeless tires, wheels. I would never do tubes for adventure riding.

[@advmatt]

Yeah, I don't think I mentioned the tubes in the video. You are spot on. I am over tubes for adventure riding. I still carry spare tubes for catastrophic wheel failures but I also run higher tire pressures to protect the wheels. I would rather do that then deal with stupid tubes. I would choose the 390A over the Tenere everyday. You can add cruise control to the 390A.

[@dwb3450]

@@advmatt Yes, and thank you for pointing out that cruise control can be added to the 390A relatively easily. That's a great point and one that I'm going to pass on to my sons as they are weighing the 390A vs KLX300. Thanks!

[@GregoryVog]

I bought a 390 SW in January 2024, within 6 months I made many changes for off-road use. The bike cost me 8000 euros and the extras 3000 euros! I thought if I made the right choice or if I should switch to another bike. I like the bike, so today I decided to make the last move and keep the bike for a long time. I will go for Andreani Misano Evo adjustable cartridges and HyperPro full adjustable rear shock. I hope I don't regret it.

[@advmatt]

@@GregoryVog the fork cartridges are not cheap, that might be a tough one to justify later. Everything else is a great setup.

[@GregoryVog]

@@advmatt yes, the cost is 600 euros for the cartridges, but with spring preload, the bike will have the correct sag. With all these adjustments available it will be very easy to set the bike to the ideal balance. Just worried if I will actually see a good difference!

[@advmatt]

@@GregoryVog I saw a huge difference just from changing the fork springs. It will make a difference.

[@GregoryVog]

@@advmatt ok thank you, when I Installed the suspensions, I give you my feedback.

[@godspeed44]

Would love to see a comparison between the 390 and the Taureg in the future. I am consdiering a Tuareg or 701LR. I have had the 390 for a year and have about 4000 miles on it. For me iIt does everything so well except have enough power at higher speeds and enough suspension travel for harder offroad riding. I sure wish it had about 10-15 more HP and another 1-2 inches of suspension travel. I feel like the A2 licensing has killed higher power bikes in the 400-500cc class.

[@chrishart8548]

They did all used to make an easy 60hp the 500cc 8valve dohc liquid cooled twin. But A2 has made sure most are 47hp now or less. Even the 650cc singles had the power reduced to 47hp and the weight went up to 172kg so the power to weight wasn't over the limit. That's why the CB500 is so heavy in order to have the full 47HP

[@advmatt]

@@godspeed44 I didn't realize the A2 license requirement had killed bikes in the 50 to 60 HP range. I will look to do the Tuareg comparison later this year. I have a three week trip planned on the Tuareg with multi sections of offroad riding to really get a good feel for it. Then I will be ready. A bike with 60HP and light weight is really missing.

[@godspeed44]

@@advmatt yes, it's a big part of the reason. It's a shame really, but understandable for a global market. Part of me thinks that might be one of the reasons why the KTM 490 was DOA. Looking forward to the comparison. Thanks for putting out real world, in-depth content!

[@verbalwidget0919]

I would love to see a comparison of a DR650 and a KTM390 they seem closer in actual size. I never had a 390 but I know you and Frank have proven the design many times over. I rode 10k miles last June coast to coast on a 2021 T700 and coming off a 650 Vstrom the lack of fuel range of the T700 literally was a constant pain is my a$$! The fuel gage warning comes on way too soon, and there is always more fuel in the tank than indicated, it's very inaccurate. The gas cap not really a big deal since I have other bikes where the gas cap is not attached to the tank, but I understand it's not as convenient. My current 2022 T700 has an Acerbis 6.1-gallon gas tank, and it is worth every penny, I'm at 250 miles and still have over a gallon remaining. For $300 If I could only do one mod it would be the gas tank. I never had spillage issues when filling the stock tank, but the Acerbis tank has a large opening. I was always in the 50+ mpg range but I had a 16 tooth front sprocket too. I used the Kaoko throttle lock last year and it held the throttle just fine for long distance breaks. I believe with the Tusk 2Track tires you tested the T700 now has the tire advantage. On the road the spin on oil filter of the T700 makes changes a breeze, and filters are found at Auto Zone and Wallymart at $7 bucks. Riding across Wyoming where the speed limit is 80mph the T700 ran 80-90 all day long no issues with full luggage and very stable. I ran my longest leg ever on the T700 from Checotah, OK to Phoenix, AZ at 1120 miles in one day no issues the entire trip. Thank you, Matt, for the review.

[@advmatt]

@@verbalwidget0919 thanks for the detailed experience on your T7. I may need to try a bigger fuel tank on the T7 and see how I get on with. I just haven't connected with it. You racked up the miles on it. Your setup looks like the way to go. Awesome!

[@motoadvenchabiken]

@@advmatt Plus one for the Acerbis tank.but I did do away with my tank bag for a small handle bar bag to compensate the extra weight.

[@advmatt]

@@motoadvenchabiken oh, I don't know if could ditch my tank bag, but that makes sense. I will give it some more thought.

[@bacbladerunner]

Matt, did you come get your Tuareg from San Jose yet?

[@advmatt]

@@bacbladerunner yeah, picked up yesterday. Staying with a friend for a few days and heading back to NM, in the heat....

[@johnherrera792]

Good analysis. The reason the KTM 390 lacks appeal to me is that it had the linkless rear suspension. It has to move oil to provide damping that linkage based suspensions partially address with rising rate levers. Way more effective. The Husqvarna dual sport 350 is a KTM but offers linkage based suspension. Way better platform

[@advmatt]

@@johnherrera792 I agree, linkage based rear suspensions are better. For the price the 390 has a lot of value compared to many other bikes of approximate size.

[@musique2005]

Had 390 adv switched to t7 after 2 years of ownership. While I liked 390 at the time I have never looked back since. T7 is complete package for me.

[@advmatt]

@@musique2005 good to hear you are happy with your choice. The T7 has lots of upsides to it for sure.

[@OneOldManRiding]

Excellent video Matt. I like the inclusion of maintenance costs. When shopping for a rear tire for my 790, I nearly went into shock at how high the prices can be! - Frank

[@advmatt]

@@OneOldManRiding it's a factor no one considers.

[@naustin09]

One of the best real world comparisons of any two bikes I’ve ever watched. I don’t have or intend to buy either one, but I still enjoyed it a lot!

[@advmatt]

@@naustin09 thanks, appreciate the feedback.

[@lajostresser482]

A great, useful, practical comparison. Thank you.

[@advmatt]

@@lajostresser482 glad you found it useful.

[@mentz8915]

Great video, just what I was looking for as my 2017 Africa Twin DTC is just too much bike for my type of riding along with the weight of moving it around. I’m looking at downsizing and the KTM checks all of the boxes. Thinking I’ll sell my AT and buy a KTM 390 as the prices are going to drop as they bring out the new Adventure 390. Thanks for taking the time to explain the differences!

[@advmatt]

@@mentz8915 you are very welcome. I agree with you, should be able to pick up a reasonably priced 390 Adv from riders wanting to upgrade.

[@ComfyDadShoes]

The 390 looks much bigger than I thought. I’ve sat on one and found it to fit better than I imagined as well. Owning the pair would be optimal! 😉

[@Bscott-390]

I bought my 390 partially due to your videos. Great work man. I'm considering moving up to the T7. haha. I did the Smokey Mountain 500 a couple weeks ago on my 390. I would like to upgrade my suspension. Do you have any links or ideas what a good upgrade is?

[@advmatt]

@@Bscott-390 thanks for the feedback. Here is a link to video regarding the suspension work I did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5Okq5enftGapcUsi=aeBLgaI3ymYT9X0e

[@DouglasRosser]

I'm torn. If local dealers are willing to "deal" on the current 390 Adv or should I wait for the next gen?... The CFMoto 450MTs should be arriving in the states soon, too.

[@advmatt]

@@DouglasRosser tough decisions. Maybe look for a used 390 to ride for now then upgrade when the new one comes out. Any bike is better than no bike.

[@RYwoodview]

Thanks for another wise video, Matt. If I weren't so biased by owning and enjoying a 2023 KTM 390 Adv SW for all the reasons you describe, I'd say that your review leans strongly toward the KTM! Excepting only high speed highway travel in high winds--which I have no problem planning to avoid.

[@advmatt]

@@RYwoodview yeah, you are perceptive. I leaned toward the 390. I tried to keep it neutral but that is difficult.

[@2010johnking]

I picked up my 2023 390 two weekends ago. I'm 40 years old and just got back into riding after 13 years without a bike. I didn't want to commit to a lot of money, power, or size to start with. So far I think I made a really good choice.

[@advmatt]

@@2010johnking the 390 is a great choice for all levels of riders. It's can be easily modified for fun wrenching and performs well. Enjoy.

[@pradeepalhan]

Nice comparison.. in love with my 390 adv rally! However I don’t understand the ergonomics complain mentioned here .. I am 5’ 10” and found the riding triangle to be awesome whether seated or standing!

[@advmatt]

@@pradeepalhan the bars on a stock 390 Adv were too low for me. I could not ride comfortably. The stock footpegs on mine were canted forward. I put on flat pegs that were lower. The modifications made for a better ride for me.

[@ferkuzuel]

Great comparison Matt! What brand of tires do you have on the 390 ?

[@advmatt]

@@ferkuzuel I have the Bridgestone Battle Axe AX41 Adventurecross on the front and the Heidenau K60 scout on the rear. I love this combo.

[@ferkuzuel]

@@advmatt thanks

[@SBMotoZ]

Sounds like 390 for the win Curious about the Tuareg saga

[@advmatt]

@@SBMotoZ just picked up the Tuareg. Ride home in a few days. It's been am ordeal. There was a missing part at assembly leading to the leak. More to come.

[@michaeltrier4227]

I've had both bikes, I agree with everything you say. But I'm missing a central statement: the T7 is by far the better bike in every category that can be objectively judged. You ride smoothly and confidently on it, while the small thumper shakes you and the wind slaps you around. But of course it depends on the personal purpose and subjective perception. And at that point for me: almost only small back roads and paths in the mountains. I'm 61, have shoulder and back problems and almost always ride alone (because I like to travel alone, I have enough people around me in my job :-)). Guess which bike I kept after half a year of having both? Exactly, the little Kati. One more thing about reliability: With the 390 Adventure, I had a defective battery and two electronic faults in the first 1000 km (once before the battery was replaced and once afterwards anyway), which causes me a different kind of stress than the top-heavy Tenere. It hasn't had a defect in 4 years, zero, nothing, nada. A Tenere simply always works. Thanks for your videos, mate!

[@advmatt]

Yeah, I am with you. The Tenere is dead reliable. I have heard of a number of problems with the KTM. This video is very subjective. I found the KTM to ride just as smoothly as the Tenere from 5k to 7k RPM, which is where I try to keep. I have really tried to love the Tenere but I have trouble doing it. There is a lot to like about it, but there is a lot I just don't like. I am working on it. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@tdragger]

Well thought out comparisons, much interesting. Thanks!

[@rorymiskimen5221]

Really enjoyed this video! I agree that the 390 is a grossly underrated ADV bike, and I’ve heard that many senior 60+ yo riders such as myself are downsizing from AT’s, GS’s and other heavy bikes to the 390. I seriously considered the 390, but this time went with the Tuareg 660, which I love. However next purchase, whenever that happens, I may be downsizing to the 390. Apparently KTM is working on a major upgrade of the bike for the 2025 MY. Thanks!

[@advmatt]

@@rorymiskimen5221 I have the Tuareg 660 and it is so easy to ride it is almost like riding the 390, almost. Thanks for the feedback.

[@KelvinRozema-nh9lp]

Hi Matt, I have a 2023 390 adventure and I used to think that I needed a bigger bike. I was giving serious consideration to the 890 adventure r but after I took it for test ride I discovered that the 390 is a lot more fun. Don’t get me wrong. The 890 was awesome but also a lot bigger. I just put cruise control from Veridian Cruise onto my 390 and now it is the perfect bike.

[@advmatt]

@@KelvinRozema-nh9lp the 390 is a pretty good bike. I need to put cruise control on mine. I shouldbhave added cruise control a long time ago. Then this bike would be as close to perfect as any bike, just like you said.

[@KelvinRozema-nh9lp]

@@advmatt I like Veridian because one kit has the multi function switch from the 890 so in looks and works like factory cruise.

[@ramonsolves6736]

I love the review on suspensions, weight and cost, but how about engine and chasis? Does the twin feel i.r.t. the mono, on and off, vibrations, confort? How compare ergonomics on road and off road, sitting, and standing, i.e. 390 pegs are leaning forward as a road bike, right?

[@advmatt]

@@ramonsolves6736 I find the bikes to vibrate about the same at highway speeds. The ergonomics of the 390 have to be highly modified to get them to feel right. Once the ergonomics are fixed the 390 feels better offroad. I had to modify both bikes to get them to feel right for me.

[@ramonsolves6736]

​@@advmatt Thats really helpful to know, thank you! I tried a 390 at a dealer but because of the stock ergonomics (pegs, seat, and tank)I went for a a CRF300L. I think that we many have the impression that the T7 is better bike on and off, but as you explain mainly due to the weight, with the proper modifications, and depending on the use style, the KTM can be even better. I own 2 more Hondas: A Transalp XL650V, and a NX250, the little 250 is just 118 kg, with the stock bike I am able to keep the pace off road of any T7 that I have came a across. Do you have a video about the KTM mods that you mention? That would be very interesting. I saw now your video. "how to ride a 390", I'll check it out.

[@advmatt]

@@ramonsolves6736 here is a link to video covering the modifications. I have videos for just about everything I have done to this bike. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXinen6VqMiEq7Msi=kULEjlNdKugDP3VE

[@RYwoodview]

I raised the handlebars and put on flat foot pegs. Even with a 14-tooth front sprocket, I don't notice any vibrations at any speed from my 2023 390 Adv.

[@advmatt]

@@RYwoodview this engine is pretty smooth for a single cylinder.

[@muralikannan0001]

Ktm 390 adv standing next to T7 itself a big achievement, yes as you said, in Adv raiding the specification sheet does not tell the practical truth, In india few of friends have 390 adv with 35k+ miles with out any issues,its a great comparison 👍 🙏

[@jojitsu56]

Completely agree. I've had most of the big adv bikes, including a T7 (excellent bike) but my 390adv is a great little bike that ticks a lot of boxes and is easy/pleasant and fun to live with.

[@advmatt]

@@jojitsu56 and can take you every where you want to go, with ease.

[@soilsmanadv6673]

Interesting perspective. Thank you for the post. I really liked the comparison.

[@advmatt]

@@soilsmanadv6673 I thought it would give riders of these bikes and riders interested in these bikes a different perspective. Cheers

[@discoveror9576]

To strain your wrist less, angle the knuckles toward the bike center and TURN the wrist (as one would turn a door-knob), rather than breaking the wrist DOWNward. Note: this, also, affords finer throttle control, particularly off-pavement, especially with snappy throttle-by-wire, instead of cable, throttles. Breaking the wrist DOWNward is, also, more likely to result in 'whiskey throttle' in a panic stop situation. Turning the wrist, rather than breaking it DOWNward, also keeps the elbows OUT where they need to be - to let the bars move horizontally, especially off-pavement. While it may feel foreign/strange at first, after getting used to it, the wrists, arms and shoulders will feel more relaxed (far less strained), relying upon one's lower legs to 'hold' the bike, rather than 'holding' the bike with one's hands and arms.

[@advmatt]

@@discoveror9576 thanks for the tips. For me, I had reconstructive elbow surgery and have broken my wrist so flexibility is a problem. Great reminder on throttle control. I always keep two fingers over the front brake so it puts my hand in a natural position to twist as you described. Hopefully others will read your comment!

[@discoveror9576]

@@advmatt Note that, when the wrist is used to turn counter-clockwise and clockwise, rather than breaking DOWNward, the wrist remains nice and STRAIGHT from knuckles to elbow. When the wrist is twisting, rather than breaking DOWNward, and the elbows naturally go OUT (where they need to be - to permit the bike to dance horizontally), one's weight is drawn FORWARD (because one's elbows are more bent), closer to the bike's center-of-mass; this allows the bike to rotate up and down in front and behind the rider, rather than bouncing one's caboose into a low earth orbit over every bump. Thinking of reaction times, I ALWAYS ride with two fingers over the clutch and my index finger over the front brake; the second or two it takes to decide to elevate one's fingers to be over the levers could be the difference between living to tell about a panic stop and dying! And, all the magic emanating from this proper riding position starts with how one wraps one's hand around the bar grips! As you embark on your July 4 ride - to celebrate our independence (while we still have some), I suspect that, if you try the above, you'll come back with a smile ... and maybe feel less pain on/after your next 1,700 mile ride to Big Bend?

Thanks for honest comparison.. I have ktm 390 adv, ı am really loved it in terms of some of the reason that you dealed with. I sold my africa twin crf 1000l for downsizing. enough power, more agility, best fuel economy and range.. Most of negative issues would be solved in ktm 390 adv in 2025 models.. Thanks Matt,

[@advmatt]

I agree, the latest version the 390 Adv R, hopefully, will really put the whole package together. I will have to buy one once they get to the states late 2025 or 2026.

[@blastradiu5]

Have you noticed that on the 390adv, when the speedo shows 70mph, the GPS will show 68mph?

[@OneOldManRiding]

This is the case with most bikes. I actually paid $50 for a "speedo healer" for my honda as it was off by 12%! Like your 390, mine is not off by much. - Frank

[@blastradiu5]

@@OneOldManRiding Yeah, i'd be nice to be able to set the wheel circumference in the speedo/ecu.

[@advmatt]

@@blastradiu5 yeah, I have noticed that. I wasn't sure if it was tire related since tires are not all the exact same diameter. There might be a little variability there,,, maybe, or it's just off a bit.

[@blastradiu5]

@@advmatt I was thinking it's going to affect my odometer mileage, but extrapolating....7000 miles on odometer would be 6800 miles actually driven. 400 mile difference at 14,000 miles odometer. Not too big a concern as I initially thought.

[@mattkaymoto]

This was a good comparison, the 390 definitely has some high points that people don't really consider, such as stock suspension and fuel range - best I got was 260+ miles, though I was nearly empty. My 2020 was written off in an accident, but I went and bought a 2024 since I like it so much. I'm trying to keep it relatively stock since I have an 890 for international trips and just bought an EXC-F for the hardcore stuff, but I have a feeling it will see a lot of dirt still!

[@advmatt]

@@mattkaymoto nice setup with your bikes. Hope you came out of the accident ok. Seems you are still riding which is great. The 390 is a dark horse bike.

[@virajvrooms]

Thanks. No one mention about the top heaviness of these bikes. The ads show riders jumping off the cliff irrespective of the bike 😂. I have a feeling that the upcoming KTM 390 ADV won't have the Duke-like character that the current version has. Sharp on streets at the same time light for off roads.

[@advmatt]

@@virajvrooms you get it. I hope the 390 Adv is as good as the spy shots make it seem.

[@cherylvankerkhof825]

Great comparison. Once again we all looking for that unicorn .

[@advmatt]

@@cherylvankerkhof825 yeah, it's not really out there yet.

[@j.w.6863]

Thank you for this video.👍 My thoughts were just as yours. My age is at the end of the 60`s. And i have been riding motorcycles for more than 50 years and more than 700.000 km. At last I changed my BMW F800GS to the light KTM 390 Adv. And I`m happy with this small bike. 😄 Maybe it will be my last. The chances look good. Most of the maintenance I do by myself. That`s a little fun for me. Always stay upright and please excuse my bad english. best wishes from the "weserbergland" in germany

[@advmatt]

@@j.w.6863 great to hear from you. Glad we agree. It's a great bike, and very underrated.

[@furadride852]

Awesome video. I did not expect the 390 to fair so favorably. Really validates how I feel about mine. 😁 Also, super interesting that the 390 stock suspension is stiffer.

[@advmatt]

@@furadride852 interesting how these two bikes stack up. They are more similar than many riders think.

[@RYwoodview]

And completely adjustable!

[@dcc-c6c]

hi Matt, where to get the fork guard for ktm 390 adv?thank you!

[@advmatt]

@@dcc-c6c the fork guards are constructed from low fender. The fender itself is cut off. If you purchase the Tusk hig fender kit you get a template for cutting the low fender to create the guards.

[@dcc-c6c]

@@advmatt thank you!!

[@Navillus2273]

I had both these bikes in garage, sold T7 and replaced with 690 enduro R, now I have two easy bikes to move around.

[@advmatt]

@@Navillus2273 weight makes a difference in the experience. You have a great setup.

[@louispaulter8733]

How do the 2 bikes compare vibration-wise on all day / long distance hwy speeds 65 - 80 mph when ridden correctly for the most comfort under those conditions ?

[@advmatt]

@@louispaulter8733 I think they vibrate an equal amount. That is just my perception. The KTM smoothes out between 5k to around 7k RPM which is where it will be at the highway speeds you describe. Thet feel about the same.

[@glennmcguire5571]

All the reasons for downsizing from the T7 to 390 have all been mentioned. I'm having much more fun off road and on road with the 390 compared to the T7. That's what it's about, fun, and the 390 has been a lot cheaper to own.

[@advmatt]

@@glennmcguire5571 the fun factor of this bike is sky high.

[@mikemills5144]

So are you going to do a comparison with the 660 as well?

[@advmatt]

@@mikemills5144 yeah, I think so, once I have 5k miles or more on it to really get to know it.

[@RideMoreNow]

Great review! I've had them both and honestly liked the 390 better. I had a 1090r and 390 and thought maybe the T7 could replace both. Sold the 1090 and bought a T7, but after a short time sold the T7 and bought an 890R, which is awesome! Have since sold the 390 and bought a 690, but the 690 is really not a replacement for the 390. The 390 handles travel better than the T7 and 690 IMO. Thanks for the review.

[@advmatt]

@@RideMoreNow you have the experience with these bikes to know. Thanks for sharing, it's great to hear.

[@lonecoyote5454]

Great comparison, can’t wait to see the specs on the 2025 KTM 390.

[@advmatt]

@@lonecoyote5454 I am looking forward to seeing the new 390 too. If it has a 21/18 wheel set it will be really step everything up.

[@cherylvankerkhof825]

As long as they dont push the weight up like Himalayan and Cf moto to the ​430 pound mark .

[@advmatt]

@@cherylvankerkhof825 agreed.

[@michaelfrancis-vb7tp]

Great video, learned some things.

[@spadac4543]

I started my off road experience on a 390 and honestly hated it off road. On the road it was one of the most fun bikes i owned and really comfortable though. But off road the most of my riding is in sand and tight technical trails. The Tenere with the 21 inch and 18 inch rear is just a must. If the 390 had that it would have been perfect.

[@advmatt]

@@spadac4543 I understand where you are coming from. Hopefully the new 390 Adv will have the 21/18 wheels like we have seen in spy shots.

[@spadac4543]

@@advmatt yeah I'd actually be kinda tempted by the Enduro model if they have one. I ended up switching to a Honda CRF450l after 300L and the 390. Been a fantastic bike. Not the most comfortable bike for longer rides but I usually just go out for a day and ride for around 100 miles or so. I'm not into too much taking trips and all. 390 engine is a gem though. Hopefully it doesn't have as many issues and gremlins as my adventure had though.

[@edgardocerrosyrutas]

Mi Ktm 390 adv ya tiene 36.000 km y nunca un problema. En mi grupo hay algunos con 90.000 km y solo problemas de amortiguador trasero que se reparo por 90 dólares. Lo demás solo mantenciones normales , hay uno que a los 80.000 cambio el pistón por 100 dólares con todo incluido.

[@advmatt]

@@edgardocerrosyrutas I have almost 48k km on mine with very few problems. It's a great bike.

[@discopunkgr]

You've talked about installing a higher seat for better ergonomics on the 390. What's the one you are using?

[@advmatt]

@@discopunkgr I have the bench seat on now. I was using the ergo seat for a long time. I have a lot of leg room. My knees don't start hurting until about the six hour mark.

[@discopunkgr]

@@advmatt I am between the ergo and the bench seat exactly for the same reason, my legs feel cramped after a while. So you would recommend the bench seat right?

[@blackrider232]

I'm considering to buy a ktm 390adv, would you mind to let me know about your height Matt?

[@advmatt]

@@blackrider232 I am 5' 10", I don't knownthe metric conversion.

[@white-rider]

I used to consistently get 67 mpg on my T7 doing multi-day relaxing rides.

[@advmatt]

@@white-rider I have never came close to those numbers. I think the T7 would benefit from a 44 tooth rear sprocket instead of 48. Then maybe Inwould get closer to those numbers.

[@discoveror9576]

Weight M A T T E R S !!! ... no matter what marketing hypesters proclaim. There's a reason that dirt-bike riders fret over the difference between 225 pound vs. 250 pound bikes.

[@advmatt]

@@discoveror9576 absolutely and the way a bike carries that weight.

[@tommyinoz2100]

i rode both on a 4000km road trip, on and off-road. The T7 is a bit top heavy, yes but the ergonomics are great out of the box. the T7 gives you a lot of confidence off-road, standing position is perfect, the engine is awesome. The 390s only pro is the weight, the engine has absolute no torque in the low revs, standing position is just a joke, bike had stalling issues going down technical stuff on the trails in first gear. For me its a no brainer, T7 is the better package, even with the high COG.

[@advmatt]

@@tommyinoz2100 I understand where you are coming from. The 390 needs a lot of mods to get it to feel comfortable both on the road and off. The 390 engine is happiest above 4k rpms and doesn't like to be lugged. The T7 can be lugged and do it happily. The riding experience on these bikes is different. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@jacknimble1]

No stalling issues with my 23. Finding neutral is my only gripe.

[@johnkennedytoole6716]

You didn't mention the seat height.

[@advmatt]

Hmm, I thought I did towards the end. I willnhave to go back and look.

[@advmatt]

Oh, yeah, I forget when I left my first response. This was not meant to a specification comparison as I mentioned in the opening frame. Its an experience comparison.

[@blastradiu5]

Thanks for doing this comparison video.

[@advmatt]

@@blastradiu5 you bet!

[@kalpetkoff]

I have the World Raid version and I go 280-290 miles range without a problem. But the tank is 23 litter.

[@advmatt]

@@kalpetkoff we don't get that version in the States. Too bad.

[@kalpetkoff]

@@advmatt that's unfair.

[@chriscord7060]

What seat do you have on the 390?

[@advmatt]

@@chriscord7060 I have the bench seat on it right now. I used the ergo seat for a few years. They are both close to the same height.

[@FabFaulconbery]

I have high sided twice on my 390a. 😂 Dumped it many times wringing the shit out of it. New it dumped itself until I welded a toe on the kick stand. 😅. I love this bike.

[@advmatt]

It sure seems like you love, getting everything out of it you can. Right on!

[@huygiapnguyen2150]

ktm390 vs cb500x? plz

[@advmatt]

I have never ridden the CB500X. I can't give fair and objective advice.

[@williamdillon7708]

Thanks Matt Dealers are still in the dark about the 2025 390 model and whether they're going to offer a redesigned R/Enduro model or not. I've decided to hedge my bets and put a refundable deposit down on one, we shall see... I also own a 2020 790 R with a Tour Tech lowering front and rear spring kit and an S seat so I can now touch with the balls of both feet with my 30" inseam. 790(468lb) 390(379lb) = 89lb lighter...

[@advmatt]

@@williamdillon7708 it's amazing what a difference that weight makes. I think KTM will showcase the new bike at EICMA in November. European markets might see it in 25, in the states, probably 26.

[@johnf650dakar]

Be interesting to see how the 2025 390 adv will conpare

[@advmatt]

@@johnf650dakar I think the 390 Adv will be even better and if the price point is good, it will blow away the T7 in riding experience. Time will tell.

[@johnf650dakar]

@ I think so just i dont have faith in the ktm reliability anymore after years of ownership. Plus dealer here is not great. Tenere still is a class bike and i think an enduro/dual sport 2nd bike best option for all riding options

[@advmatt]

@johnf650dakar the Indian made KTMs seem to have better reliability.

[@johnf650dakar]

@ i will be looking to try one next year but all depends on how its priced

[@bhaz1987]

Well done honest report Thanks

[@MotoCampAdv]

Just be ready to upgrade that 390 and T7 with the CFMOTO ibex/mt450😊 once they come stateside.

[@advmatt]

@@MotoCampAdv I was really interested in this bike until I started seeing a little more of it. For me, i think it will need as many modifications as my 390 to fit me and how I ride (I am heavy). I will likely try to find a deal on a used one in a few years, but I look forward to seeing how it does long term.

[@leonrawls892]

I'm waiting on the 390 adventure R

[@advmatt]

@@leonrawls892 I think we all are. It's taking a long time.

[@ldreese33]

I am hearing 2026

[@ZixX96]

I think, that the 390 Adv is a great bike for the money. But the thing which I don’t like is, that highway speeds over 130 km/h (or 80 freedom units) the bike feels awful. The front wheel is so wobbly, even with a new tire and balanced wheel. I hate this bike to go on the autobahn.. it’s more like a torture than a pleasure. The problem is: you have to go at least 130 km/h or higher just to be safe. With 120-130kmh you are more like a road block than a road user. I should have said, that I am from Germany. Sorry ☝️😄 with the top speed of the 390 adv (160-170kmh) you are just a normal driver and not the fastest driver on the road. I am wondering, if the T7 got any kind of the same problem.

[@advmatt]

@@ZixX96 the T7 can do those higher speeds easily. The 390 is much happier at 55 to 60 mph, or under 120km/h. I understand your frustration. This isn't the right bike for lots of high speed higway riding. Back road cruising is it where it shines.

[@OneOldManRiding]

The front tire (in my experience) plays a very large part in how fast the 390 is while being very stable. With my AX41, it's about 80mph, however with a Trailmax Mission (heavy round tire) I have footage of my Garmin GPS showing me going 99 sustained in South Dakota. - Frank

[@vtrack1963]

@@OneOldManRidingAny witnesses to that? 🤣

[@vtrack1963]

This was a great video on why you like the 390 Adv better than the Tenere! There is no way you can be wrong on what you like. 🤣 I really wanted to like the 390 Adv. I compared it the Tenere and 890 Adventure (all were at the same dealership) by sitting on it numerous times on multiple days. I think I wanted to like it because prior to the 2023 model year there were some fantastic deals on the 390. What I found was the 390 was the strangest Adv bike ergonomically that I looked at. It was far worse than both the Tenere and 890 Adventure. Additionally it was worse than a Versys X300, BMW310GS, Transalp, VStrom 650/800, and a KLR650. Another oddity was the 390 was a very tall bike with low ground clearance. To make matters worse KTM got rid of tubeless wheels on the 390 (a separate gripe). I’m 6’2” and came to the conclusion this was a little person bike. I’m sure there are big people that have modified it to a point that they really believe they like it, and am glad it works out for you and that other old guy that rides one and makes videos. As a frequent viewer of your videos it doesn’t seem like you ever embraced the Tenere and gave it a chance. What made you buy it? In my search I ended up buying a bike I NEVER imagined I’d buy, a 2024 KTM (CFMoto) 790 Adventure. I’ve put 4000 miles on it and like it more every time I ride it. I bought it to replace a WR250R and couldn’t be more pleased. The 790 seems lightweight to me and is easy to move around the garage especially compared to my VStrom 1000XT. It isn’t as easy to move around as my WR250R, but I don’t waste much time thinking about it since I no longer have that bike. I guess it’s just a matter of perspective.

[@OneOldManRiding]

@@vtrack1963 There is video of you right near me on the VStrom! - Frank

[@americandude3825]

Solution: buy the 390, T7, Super Tenere, and a can am spyder RTL. All bases covered.

[@advmatt]

Perfect solution!

[@RYwoodview]

Then be prepared to move them around the garage every day!

[@ageless1003]

KTM is coming out with new version of 390 soon (with new engine and more GC)

[@advmatt]

@@ageless1003 yeah, spy shots have been seen for a few years. Waiting to see what KTM does. Maybe it will be revealed at EICMA.

[@Jean-FrançoisVincent-b9z]

Bad title 😂, you should say: I hate the T7. At the end according to you T7 have no quality. You never bring the weight Numbers?

[@advmatt]

@@Jean-FrançoisVincent-b9z I tried to stay away from anything you can find on the spec sheets, like weight. The T7 is not my favorite, but the engine is where it shines.

[@advmatt]

@@Jean-FrançoisVincent-b9z I tried to stay away from anything you can find on the spec sheets, like weight. The T7 is not my favorite, but the engine is where it shines.

[@advmatt]

@@Jean-FrançoisVincent-b9z I was avoiding discussing anything that could be found in the spec sheet and only discussed experience. I don't hate T7, it's just not my first choice.

[@TheSkaterer]

DR650>>>>>>>

[@advmatt]

@@TheSkaterer great bike.

[@Fran-trail]

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[@bve7397]

The 390s ground clearance is awfull, might asswel put nobys on a duke lol

[@advmatt]

@@bve7397 yeah, it's not great. I found that it was easier to ride around tricky bits than try to ride over them. The T7, going really slow, can scrape through more stuff for sure. For most BDRs the 390 Adv is perfectly adequate, but for Enduro riding it falls way short. It is a good little travel/camping bike.

[@user-ktm890rider]

I would love to see Yamaha design a 5 gallon low slung tank And add a 400/450 to the line up 😎🍻

[@advmatt]

@@user-ktm890rider the Tenere needs a lot more work to get close to other bikes. A Yamaha 500cc adventure bike would be amazing.

[@WinifredMulvey]

No matter how much $$$ you throw at the 390...at the end of the day it's still a play bike .

[@advmatt]

@@WinifredMulvey and a dang fun play bike.