"YATTA! AKAINU SO UWU🥰 & THE STWONG❤️EST 😘" ft @B.D.A. Law | One Piece Power-Scaling Discussion

[@brosephgobbles8601]

these two need to make a podcast. I could listen to them argue for hours

[@laissezfaire4693]

Facts

[@gtensley671]

Good idea

[@justinmcgee9980]

Fr!!

[@Beazah]

FAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[@Amunny]

PLEASE

[@joshuaturpin9587]

Bro tf is this title lmao

[@bobmarkerson]

Akawnu too uwu oh my gooood smug rawr x3

[@joshuaturpin9587]

@@bobmarkerson king really out of pocket for this one lmao

[@elithornton5217]

The truth

[@glory1950]

Akainutards pov

[@joshuaturpin9587]

Nah I'm not that keen on akainu, the title just caught me off guard lol.

[@mikevictory9455]

LOL seeing KOL and Brago going at it is always entertaining! XD

[@TheZubaz]

I love that every single one of these is them arguing with the most bad faith imaginable lmao

[@idiatico]

They never give any compromises lol, just talking past eachother.

[@holdeezroger]

straight up trying to see how fast they can tilt the other lmao

[@orbboom6119]

Its pretty funny to listen to at least lmao

[@ShiningNoctowls]

Lol 🔥 ❤ 🌙

[@mralabbad7]

Oda is loving this I'm almost certain this is exactly what he wanted writing the story the way he did and revealing/hiding details about characters to throw everyone off from anything definitive

[@samsom4122]

Its also kinda trash.

[@mralabbad7]

@@samsom4122 it may lead to trash arguments and fights but it by itself is clever storytelling

[@NickAlex08]

Oda had stated in the past, that he writes the story like how his 15 year old self would like a story. And he wasn't lying, only the fandom is in denial about it.

[@g3mkn1ght60]

Odas rubbing his hands together

[@thetruth997_]

So many trash and useless arguments could of been avoided if Oda was less vague and didn't wanna hide everything with a silhouette lol but finally we're getting definite answers and reveals 👍

[@katakuriko9140]

if only kaido had Doflamingo mental can you imagine what's gonna happen to the scabbards,supernovas,yamato, but kaido doesn't care about killing his opponents the only time he cared when he defeated luffy and wanted to cut his head off so people stop believing that luffy gonna win, but i really wished he had Doflamingo mental that fits him more as the strongest creature that wanted the biggest war ever, so him not dropping bodies is his character writing, but when it comes to akainu i really think at final war he's dropping like at least 10 bodies that's how his character is written and i like that and for me akainu is so underrated he's easily yonko level and even if roger fought him it's extreme diff.

[@EasyWinking]

i think rogers stronger, but im unsure how he or garp could even beat someone like akainu who could just melt their bodies. ?

[@katakuriko9140]

@@EasyWinking roger should be stronger but anyone that fight akainu will lose an arm or leg or even his life, he can't just melt their bodies that easy they can use haki.

[@EasyWinking]

@@katakuriko9140 so basically if you have stronger haki but your oppoent has a lava devil fruit you can negate their fruits attack by simply having stronger haki?

[@katakuriko9140]

@@EasyWinking yes, jinbei blocked akainu attack but he still got hurt because his haki is not good enough, we saw akainu melting swords in the war but shanks stopped him with his sword because of his strong haki.

[@michaeldavis6993]

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[@jeskerjames3260]

I am loving these videos between you and Brago. The back and forth and chemistry is fantastic!

[@kilsgb]

Wdym chemistry? These guys were lowkey mad hostile against each other.

[@jeskerjames3260]

@@kilsgb That’s what makes it fun! You act like they hate each other or something over a manga lol

[@kilsgb]

@@jeskerjames3260 not for me. Hate these discussion videos between channels because they are often so childish and toxic. My bad for clicking on the video though.

[@vistaxx]

@@kilsgb if you don’t like it yeah then don’t Watch it

[@4pace]

@@kilsgb I’ve personally watched all their collaboration videos, they may get into heated debates but it’s all for fun and jokes. They may disagree on fundamental one piece facts, however there’s no hatred between the two of them. In my opinion they have great chemistry, and remind me of the friendly debates that my friends and I would have over anime. Just because there’s intense debate doesn’t make it toxic.

[@JDWalker495]

Brago let’s be real if Akainu tried to kill Kinemon Oda would’ve made it that Law put some super ice pack in his body to negate the magma The Will of K is too strong

[@thetruth997_]

Law is so broken lmao

[@jarinxcii263]

Kinemon can cut fire related attacks that includes magma

[@IchigoKurosaki911]

@@kizarusweeddealer What? Why would Big Mom and Kaido try to kill Queen and King?

[@IchigoKurosaki911]

@@kizarusweeddealer Shot Oden in the head.

[@crazygamer-mr6nr]

@@kizarusweeddealer You mean show up and beat people while they’re already weakened and can’t fight anymore?

[@raaraa5058]

Dawg you two do the best collabs community 😂 could listen to yall go back and forth all day lmfaooo. Hilarious 😂 keep up the great content!

[@YetiCoolBrother]

Whitebeard also was already sick before he even got Marineford, mans was hooked up like he had cancer. He was definitely the weakest of the Yonko by the time he died (but was the strongest in his prime).

[@adnwzhre]

do ppl really think old man whitebeard was stronger than Shanks, Big mom, and or KAIDO?!? that actually seems so psychotic.

[@bravo561]

@@adnwzhre No one ACTUALLY believes that. It’s all bad faith

[@avalac7412]

whitebeard at that stage in the story was stated as the strongest pirate. i'm guessing people don't read the story now

[@azrael5493]

@@avalac7412 Yes that's before any of the other Yonko were properly introduced in terms of scale.

[@YetiCoolBrother]

@@avalac7412 It's stated he was "The Strongest Man in the World" which can be interpreted as a title & not a statement (albeit a title he totally earned without question for likely the majority of his life). "Strongest Pirate" also wouldn't even necessarily denote his individual strength as being a "strong pirate" has other factors to it like crew strength. Also in the story is what I brought up with him being sick before he got there, and several moments where either WB himself or another character remark on his waning abilities due to his old age. If his own men can clearly see he's not what he used to be in the middle of a war, why would we then assume he's stronger than Kaido who's currently in his prime?

[@olidolly7006]

The thumbnail 😭😭 The disrespect Akainu gets is ridiculous

[@jadon4244]

i can’t believe K.O.L let Brago slip in “Vista who is as strong as Mihawk and marco couldn’t hurt akainu” … im sorry what?😭😭

[@jbriggs06]

Right!?

[@stardestroyer19]

It furthers the shanks agenda, so of course he'll let it slip.

[@czar17_28]

Marco... didn't hurt Akainu.

[@KurokamiNajimi]

@@czar17_28 Akainu didn’t hurt him either. In the Anime he pushed him back, in the Manga he doesn’t

[@BlackStar-gv1wl]

Bro I swear tho KOL thinks the same thing. It’s part of his zoro is wack agenda cause mihawk is his sensei

[@punctualwizard]

Power scaling is usually a yawn. But these two make it actually an entertaining thing. I agree and disagree with both of em throughout the diatribe to the point that I don’t know if there’s a clear winner imo. Started out agreeing with Brago and ended thinking the akainu uwu thumbnail may be too accurate. Next channel is Brago D Akainu 😆

[@TheSnake2339]

That’s Oda fault that Kinemon is still alive. Kaido basically killed him, but Law saved his life by mistake

[@milzhere]

Yeah that was bad. And there's not really any reason to keep kinemon alive, oda just hates killing characters.

[@thetruth997_]

Law is so broken lmao

[@visionaryvjae5641]

Brago does have a point though. Kaido does blunt force damage so his attacks are easier to survive while Akainu's casual attacks would melt Kinemon like Kaido's fire drum dragon melted the left horn of Onigashima if Oda wrote that scene with Akainu instead of Kaido, Kinemon either dies, loses a limb or gets some giant scar.

[@Mambo-Italiano]

@@visionaryvjae5641 none of the WB's commanders and allies that were trying to save Luffy died or lost their limbs lol.

[@Kenzo411able]

@@Mambo-Italiano Yet WB and Ace died to Akainu's casual attacks

[@yuma5297]

people forget that wb was a half dead man before he even went to marin ford.

[@officialparrishpage4]

The thumbnail made me watch this at 3:33AM. I HAD TOO!!!

[@stardestroyer19]

These vids are a godsend. I never knew I needed KoL X Brago content.

[@ejshipman6033]

Goat stuff lol

[@appllypressure]

LMAO that title is nuts

[@trololotrololo5697]

Whitebeard is the only old character in One piece who has health issues. Rayleigh, Sengoku, and Garp are healthy old men.

[@severteran9897]

How old was Roger when he turned himself in

[@novsmith4547]

@@severteran9897 Roger wasn't old but his illness gave him very limited time to live at that point.

[@michaeldavis6993]

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[@Foxomar1]

This is peak entertainment 🤣

[@brianlewis5518]

Yo brago really do be sounding like that title 🤣🤣🤣

[@joocypaleorc2149]

“Akainu couldnt even kill marco” -kol Neither could blackbeard and big mom who needed help from perospero.

[@jambo1815]

But Brago was hyping up Akainu as this lethal bad mofo.

[@canned3880]

Neither could queen and king at the same time

[@homiixide]

Notice how King always brings up those who “supposedly” hurt an Admiral but NEVER bring up the moment where lesser characters actually damage and hurt a Yonko. Or how be brings up Marco but then ignores Marco blocking Big Mom and Kaido’s attacks. Marco is a literal phoenix, it’s really difficult to hurt him.

[@uncomfortabletruths7990]

Well of course big mom is gonna beat Marco that fast and perosoero just helped speed up the process. Big mom didn’t need him to beat Marco

[@tragiic333]

You forget that this was a stronger Marco in wano

[@TwoForFlinchin1]

Why do people think observation haki is inconsistent? If you're focusing really hard on something in front of you in the heat of battle then someone sneaking up on you is going to be pretty easy. Edit: if you're going to reply in this thread then please give an example of observation haki failing in a one-v-one. If you're sitting at a stop sign and someone rear ends you, that's not a failure of observation if you were focusing on oncoming traffic

[@95seb123]

Katakuri basically said this as well. CoO is not always active and the strongest characters have shown that if they get distracted or frustrated, using CoO becomes more difficult or there are gaps in what they can sense. Especially future sight

[@Mambo-Italiano]

Nah that's just copium, or Fuji is getting washed.

[@imnotaclown9603]

@@Mambo-Italiano what?

[@imnotaclown9603]

Yeah, He can see the future and senses every attack coming his way, and couldn't notice the darts flying past him

[@bonerpants7203]

@@Mambo-Italiano Fuji doesn't use his eyes to see, so he can't be distracted mid fight. He's constantly using obs just to see.

[@jordanbanks118]

These videos are hilarious, keep the content coming!!

[@Abyssionknight]

I find it weird that Brago keeps saying Whitebeard is only human, but then disregards / downplays Whitebeards heart attack. When someone gets a heart attack they are no where even remotely close to their best immediately afterwards. People are struggling to breath, feeling exhausted and dizzy, massive pain and soreness throughout the body and in some cases just passing out. So Brago has to choose. Either Whitebeard is 'only human' and was fighting on par with Akainu at less than half strength, or Whitebeard is beyond human, in which case Koe's criticisms about Whitebeards durability and strength compared to other Yonko are 100% valid.

[@ralph39er73]

Think he was saying akainu is only human

[@josephjager9156]

Oda down played wbs heart attack that moment he drew him losing part of his head to Akainu yet was completely fine despite falling on his knees eariler to his heart attack literally made no sense

[@kindle184]

Dude in one piece disease and injury don't effect your Attack power I thought even a dummy knew that.

[@X35Earthwalker]

Off course the obvious evidence is ignored. Injuries do effect attack power. It's obvious to dummies. Hit a punching bag, then get stabbed and have a heart attack, then hit that punching bag again. You'll see the difference

[@kindle184]

By that logic zoro shouldn't even be able to carry his sword hell he should not even able to move with all his 206 bones broken let alone do a full power asura attack on kaido. The amount double standard and hypocrisy is just too much in one piece community for their loved character.

[@lytergy0]

KOL GOING CRAZY WITH THE TITLES LMAO

[@lamchop_16]

Dawg this is most wild kingoflighting title this year 😂😂

[@Tredawakandan]

I do agree with KoL that Whitebeard was the weakest yonko during marineford. In terms of Luffy vs that Whitebeard I say Luffy is stronger in attack potency but not area of effect. The quake fruit offers great AoE.. I will say I think Whitebeard was stronger physically that is until we compare him to gear 5.. Let's remember BB took a bloodlusted(yes he was on his deathbed) attack from that Whitebeard and got back up and kept fighting. Add to that the Yami Yami makes him take 2x damage. I wouldn't say Whitebeard who did that was way weaker then when he just thrashed akainu.. Akainu attacking Kinemon doesn't mean automatic death. Kinemon survived kaido hit and curiel is still alive after akainu...

[@erichite3398]

I remember waaaay back seeing Aokiji for the first time. It was the one of the most mind blowing moments in One Piece. It was a huge leap forward in the scale of what a single person was capable of. He froze the ocean farther than the eye could see for miles to the next island. Thats a feat. Gotta respect the Admirals.

[@alistairlumu5168]

Deffo

[@vistaxx]

Yeah Not only That the Admirals are definetely on the Level of yonkos

[@timorbalimore4011]

@@vistaxx I think it the yonkos should prove themselves to be on the Admiral level since Buggy. Cuz we all know Big mom & Buggy would never be fit to be an admiral

[@harsh_1910]

@@timorbalimore4011 I'm an admiral guy but that is just wrong as big mom was said to have the potential to be fleet admiral

[@milzhere]

@@harsh_1910 she did not live up to that potential

[@sshuraii]

Yoo this title though. I remember in the other video KOL said the admirals don’t have any bodies and BDA was like, excuse me? Akainu, Ace?

[@killacahji9484]

Would love to see this collab once every Oda break… Doesn’t even need to be one piece related… Y’all could “discuss” Tuesday vs Wednesday and still be entertaining af

[@shadelle11]

I don't think that there's any debate that Whitebeard would have inevitably died for Akainu's attacks even if Blackbeard hadn't showed up. Honestly just given his anatomy being a regular human the chest blow alone would kill Shanks.

[@estebanbr7596]

The guy was holding back the whole time to not destroy the island. If akainu really left wb to die off while hiding then it only speaks of his incompetence. Who is to say whitebeard wont do a final attack to blow up all marine ford. Sp either he got two shotted or he is fxking oncompetent.

[@shadelle11]

@@estebanbr7596whether he was holding back or not is irrelevant Akainu still got those hits in and there's no way Whitebeard who was already on his way out going into Marineford was living to see the next day with half his face gone.

[@mystermans2295]

Not to mention that the cannon final attack that Akainu did on Whitebeard was blow half his head off and KOL loves to never talk about that.

[@senpaii5176]

Both can be wrong and right but I feel like KOL is underestimating AKAINU but that might just be me being biased since I’m an ADMIRAL fan more than YONKO

[@LilTyrantMusic]

You guys need to do more videos 🤣🤣🤣. This is literally how it's like speaking to my friends about one piece.

[@kennethmclawhorn9085]

I'm not gonna argue strength ect. The big picture is if akainu didn't strategically pull himself from the fight after landing life ending blows to whitebeard it was pretty clear whitebeard would have killed him, then dies himself. This was oda's way of showing admirals and yonko can compete with one another. Again this is not a power scaling Comment because one piece is notoriously inconsistent with power scaling (which frankly I love). Just pointing out the point of the scene and what was clear to the reader.

[@uncomfortabletruths7990]

It really isn’t inconsistent people r just dumb

[@adoniscreed4031]

These coversations are the fucking gift that keeps giving 🤣

[@Duke15k]

Man I love these 2 arguing and blatantly coping against each other 😂

[@AzenHawke1995]

Can't wait for Oda to finally show Kizaru's true strength and have him as the true strongest admiral

[@noir2024]

@@DonatiVI it's called inferiority complex!! While other admirals are trying their best to demonstrate their potential, Kizaru is just chilling lol

[@azrael5493]

@@DonatiVI He was having fun. We've never ever seen him take anything seriously.

[@beingofinconceivablehorror1854]

@@azrael5493 its his job and he is under orders to capture the pirates that hit a celestial dragon. There is 0 evidence he was not taking it seriously. Stop confusing his laid back personality for lack of trying.

[@imsentinelprime9279]

@@beingofinconceivablehorror1854 let's just be honest. Kizaru just sucks at his job. But has a op devil fruit. Put it in the hands of someone that is actually responsible then you REALLY HAVE A MONSTER on our hands.

[@imsentinelprime9279]

Kizaru is probably one of the more incompetent admirals.

[@RocketTMac1]

Brago’s admiral agenda shows HEAVY in these conversations lol.

[@avalac7412]

they're the final obstacle for the straw hats oda has been building up for ages now.

[@MetakJesu07]

And KOL's Yonko agenda doesn't? lol.

[@avalac7412]

@@MetakJesu07 fr lol brago is jus trying to bring balance to the debate, king is so easy to read, far before he says anything you know the agenda he is gonna push. The yonko wank is all he does these days, he used to be somewhat credible back in the days.

[@novsmith4547]

@@avalac7412 you sound so hurt. This man let you down or something?

[@tragiic333]

Yonko>admirals

[@haterreaction6368]

I really enjoy the back and forward! xD I hope there are more videos about the theme xD

[@rdrummer2]

Hold up. Kinemon surviving an Akainu onslaught? Kol what are you smoking chief?

[@roddyrod0]

“Vista who is as strong as Mihawk” we just gone go right by that… aye Brago stop playin 😂😂😂

[@canned3880]

Vista said Mihawk was stronger but was recognized as a valid swordsman by the guy. Not as strong but he's relavant

[@loveqeeb8643]

kol getting owned on his own channel 🤦🏾

[@zondor8123]

"Jump rope & big fraud" -Reverie 2022

[@azureskybox3024]

White Beard was arguably the weakest yonko because of 1) He was old and had heart attacks 2) he was very sick 3) his Haki was down (main point) 4) add to that some serious injuries. Haki is the main component here. Before Marineford, yonko are super durable mainly because of their haki. Their haki is so powerful that they create storm clouds just from clashing. Admirals are known for their powerful DF. Their DF would overwhelm almost anyone in the one piece world. They also have good range which makes them over powered when fighting multiple opponents. The only way to counter them is to use an opposing DF or a stronger Haki. And that is the main advantage of yonko over admiral. They can successful fight admirals for extended periods of time while deal potent damage. Their range may or may not be great but that wouldn't matter in a 1v1 (speed can make up for it). Moreover, they also mostly have some of the most powerful DFs as well or some great weapon mastery. The way I see it, admirals will thrive in group battles while yonko are best at 1v1. There is a good reason while you might want to bet on Kaido on 1v1. As well as why Kaido values haki more. In fact, the fact that we have people like Roger and Shanks is very telling. This is not to say admirals have no haki just like how most yonko also have powerful DFs. This is while I also believe Luffy has surpassed old WB but not Kaido. Big Mom would also be somewhere in the middle because she relies too much on DF (her durability is still top notch though). On the other hand, I think BB will go/has gone beyond admirals because he has mastered multiple DF. If he gets another DF like say a Black Tortoise or some other mythical Zoan, his durability would also be up there (and it will be sure to have other useful abilities). This will mean that by then he would have ATK, DEF, and DEBUFF. Which would still make him have an easier time with the admirals that a typical yonko. If he awakens ALL the his DF...

[@greenpooljama]

i’m crying bro this thumbnail and title are running duos on my lungs 😭😭💀💀

[@kryptonight63]

Every One Piece powerscaling discussion always ends up going back to Marineford lol

[@avalac7412]

fr lol it's a major waste of time imo cause we didn't see characters even going all out and haki was barely as lethal as it currently is. one piece lacks the ability to flesh characters out in great detail which leaves people coming up with headcanon on who they think is stronger most the time. and people having featless characters like shanks as the strongest with no valid reasoning behind it.

[@2pieceopbr628]

@@avalac7412 ryou was displayed in marineford by the three admirals when they pushed their hands out and akainu used future sight to dodge vista’s Haki slash. Vista himself even stated that he infused Haki. Two out of three forms of advanced Haki were shown in marineford.

[@avalac7412]

​@@2pieceopbr628 ik all that, but it wasn't depicted visually like it is now

[@ayeboileeabundance1480]

I like when i see yall 2 discussing One Piece, keep doing these 💯

[@agimedward5708]

More admiral slander yesssss

[@okarra8199]

Beautiful agendas today lads🤣I’m not goin for vista as strong as Mihawk

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

Bro its easy. If Kaido takes those two attacks from Whitebard from behind he IS FALLING And then he would come back one chapter later just like Akainu did Its not like we havent seen Kaido falling.

[@bensylver5113]

exactly

[@novsmith4547]

Tbh i dont think he's gonna stay down as long as Akainu did. I think he flys out and jumps right back into the fight with WB

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

@@novsmith4547 Maybe Kaido does that since that would be his priority, but remember Akainu was chasing Luffy BEFORE whitebeard got in the middle, and so he countinued to go after Luffy IMMEDIATELY If he took time he wouldnt have caught Luffy and Jinbe, he went right away If Kaido's priority was to chase Luffy he would go and chase him flying, just like Akainu did underground. They just have different powers.

[@derekricaurte3837]

@@novsmith4547 akainu was down for a chapter and we know he had to be moving during that time to catch up to luffy. also the events that happened while he was gone could not have been more than 5-10 mins. he also fell down far below ground and he cant fly he can only propel himself upwards a bit from a quick magma burst but cant sustain it enough to fully defy gravity

[@Uchihaitachi777-k8m]

Akainu : Breathes Brago : OMG Akainu chan is so uwu, kimochiiii❤️

[@bigpurplepops]

I just give WB the highest raw AP of the Yonko; “Strongest man in the world” “Power to destroy the world” The bloodlust punch into Akainu with his crew gone was essentially ending the narrative thread of him being able to win the war by BFD if Ace and his family weren’t there… But compared to Mythical Zoans, ‘Iron Balloons’, and Shank’s Haki old man WB just isn’t a tank fighter. Low defence for an actual War.

[@antonedatcher4897]

Not while he’s dying I don’t think so, he couldn’t even take down aces executioners without coughing blood. Like we really forget at all times WB is strapped to a respiratory. Like he was so down bad it was crazy

[@antonedatcher4897]

We seen what type of man young whitebeard was bro was jumping across islands 😂. And coming down with with fast movement he was so slow at marineford

[@bigpurplepops]

@@antonedatcher4897 In terms of his sickness it definitely hurt his fighting ability; but having a heart attack when he tries to use conqueror’s doesn’t change the fact his punch levelled the remainder of Marine Ford…

[@LaffyTaffy04]

Now I wanna see the Marineford war redrawn as a basketball game and Akainu gets his ankle broken so hard that he falls down a hole screaming "ONORE, SHIROHIGEEEEE!!!"

[@8Drought]

Green bull and fujitoria got folded by sabo and few good men

[@robertosantibanez]

How does the injuries not matter? Oda has continually put the Yonko as the one’s to take damage before the real fights. Never had an Admiral been in that position , let’s wait what happens when Greenbull is placed in that position before he fights someone at his tier. Akainu / Kuzan / Kizaru / Fujitora have never been in a position like Whitebeard or Kaido were. They are true freaking monsters who took so much damage before they fought someone relevant to their tier. Flip it around and have Akainu take a blade through his torso , take damage from hundreds, and go on to fight Whitebeard.

[@Mambo-Italiano]

You forgot about giving his some terminal disease, which is so bad, that he constantly has to stay hooked with a life support system.

[@faceagain5703]

also make akainu old , out of prime , hoooked on medical machines AND have weaker haki than usual which even marco someone who has been with wb for DECADES noticed.

[@noir2024]

They want that attaboy lol

[@babauzuafa5332]

@@noir2024 😭😭

[@cy4069]

@@faceagain5703 that's not fair since Prime WB is way beyond any of the current yonkos

[@deante6506]

Kol is so biased it's ridiculous. The fact that he doesn't think that Akainu's attacks were the main contribution to Whitebeard's death, when Akainu took nearly half of Whitebeard's brain. Does KOL believe that WB would survive without half of his head ? Blackbeard finished off a Whitebeard that was literally a walking dead man, moving only off of his will power. Blackbeard needed his entire crew to finish off a dead man. Without the wounds from Akainu WB would neg diff Blackbeard and his entire crew.

[@scarfacemartinez]

Will power is strength in the One Piece world tho

[@deante6506]

@@scarfacemartinez But I don't think that even in One Piece will power will allow you to live without half of your brain.

[@scarfacemartinez]

@@deante6506 if you check again it wasn’t half his head it was around 1/4th plus don’t forget Jimbei survived an attack from Akainu ,of course he had to get healed up I’m just sayin he survived it and he’s back at peak strength in wano

[@gaythugsmatter7029]

@@scarfacemartinez jimbe brain didn’t get melted by lava try again no human is surviving that even in op

[@scarfacemartinez]

@@gaythugsmatter7029 So?? he got a hole in his chest I don’t think anyone would survive that.Whitebeard got hit with the shot in the head and didn’t even react to it ,after he automatically hits akainu .

[@killerbean1946]

I love when Brago and King pull up it’s a madness

[@blankenator62]

Yeah KOL you're dead wrong about WB. He had his insides pumped with magma... his insane willpower is the only thing animating that old man's body, he was basically a reanimated corpse. After Akainu was done with him WB was a dying man

[@aidanpinkney9005]

this is huge cope lmfao, WB was still stunting on akainu even after getting hit by his magma multiple times.

[@thetruth997_]

I blame the anime for making Whitebeard look way better and literally censoring key moments. Whitebeard got half his face blown off..... then another gaping hole in his chest then his insides filled with magma again. Dude was walking around like a zombie lmao he was dead

[@tyjairchambers8183]

@@aidanpinkney9005 exactly I don't know how anyone could say that whitebeard isn't stronger akainu. Last time I checked akainu had to use underhanded tactics ( squardo) and then he waited to fight whitebeard after this man fought damn near everyone else including kuzan and kizaru at one point, just to get two shotted. Now we can make the case of an admiral being stronger than a yonko when we see 1 of them take on a yonko and win without backup. Outside of that it's dumb asf to compare them to anyone, even green bull doesn't get any props right now, cudos to him for defeating two commander's although they were weak at the time lol

[@imnotaclown9603]

@@tyjairchambers8183 Round 1, Whitebeard couldn't land a hit on Wb Round 2, WB HAS TO SNEAK AKAINU to land a hit, just to lose half of his head... It's pretty clear who's stronger

[@blankenator62]

@@aidanpinkney9005 I never said WB wasn't able to still fight after taking the magma hits, I'm saying he was only able to do so because of his legendary status and unmatched willpower. If the battle ended in the victory of the WB pirates and and they escaped with all their members after taking the magma hits, WB would still die from those injuries. It's like how Oden managed to keep himself alive to complete his purpose to save his retainers by his insane willpower. Even if Kaido didn't shoot him in the head, he was a dead man since he had sustained too much damage to his vitals. WB had a third of his brain blown off and had his torso pumped full of magma. Just like Fisher Tiger he would die some time after the end of the battle.

[@themedia_ghost9998]

That title is perfect! LOL

[@fiidisksdiduui1898]

Another video where brago bullies KOL in his own channel💀

[@thetruth997_]

Now that I think about it, there was no way Shanks and his crew was gonna beat Akainu,Aokiji and Kizaru at the same time. Not too mention the marines still had the warlords except Mihawk, and some ok vice admirals

[@fiidisksdiduui1898]

@@thetruth997_ No way. I think shanks is top 1 but he aint THAT strong

[@wavydavey2156]

@@fiidisksdiduui1898 i cant lie i think shanks folds all of them his haki might be unstoppable by them

[@milzhere]

@@thetruth997_ exactly. The only reason they didn't try Shanks was because of blackbeard.

[@imnotaclown9603]

@@wavydavey2156 but that's headcanon

[@almightyfishmixx4739]

This Was Hilarious. Bottom Line. Love The KOL x Brago Streams, Such Great Chemistry.

[@TheOnlyBlackHipster]

I like how BDA doesn’t let KOL finish a single point and constantly interrupts him every time he tries to make a point like if you’re right let him say his point lol

[@kindle184]

I thought it was the other way it's funny how our pre determined view of world change things when we look at the same thing.

[@tyruswillier7358]

KOL did the same thing I don't know why your singling one of them out.

[@Ojkkkkkkkk300]

Liked vid before it even started. This link up is forever fire🔥

[@visionaryvjae5641]

8:44 Kinemon's definitely melting if he eats an attack from Akainu, KOL's tripping but there's an ever so slight possibility Kinemon could cut the magma attack before it hits him but more likely than not Kinemon's getting melted.

[@desmonddickerson2826]

If Curiel didn't melt then neither is Kinemon

[@1nick11]

kinemon plot armor + flame rend + curiel didnt die + law room + time traveler + ratio + cope

[@KINGTOXICO-lh1ls]

Oda will save kinemon

[@sasuke_2145]

Yeah also they didn't mention that ace got one shotted by akainu who was way stronger than kinemon.

[@visionaryvjae5641]

@@desmonddickerson2826 Well do you mind telling me what Curiel is doing these days ever since that panel he got shown getting burned alive by Akainu's magma.

[@xshantop1verse407]

Brago is wild for thinking akainu stand a chance against kaido

[@warcrabcyber9908]

Yonkou over admiral, although I have my suspicion that akainu has conqueror haki. Kinemon has plot armor. Kinemon was basically operating with the wacky properties of law devil fruit even though law reconnected his body.

[@saitama5219]

"Plot armor"

[@thehanma2776]

Of Course Yonkou will always be stronger than Admiraltard

[@karma5534]

Plot Armor but law didn't reconnect kinemons body....it was sanji or kinemon himself.

[@milzhere]

@@thehanma2776 wrong

[@thehanma2776]

@@milzhere Facts 💯

[@Shields_]

This is the funniest thumbnail and title I’ve ever seen on a KZbin video ayooo 💀💀😭

[@Chuck_Brownn]

Akainu is more lethal, his offense is deadly.

[@edwinvillalobos7159]

Kinemon hard counters magma is molten rocks he can turn all of akainus attacks into piles of garments😂

[@fudgerrr9385]

That thumbnail is a war crime 😂

[@generationsigma646]

So this is what ultimate anti Admirals copium looks like!...💀💀💀

[@Bentahila]

The BEST duo of OP youtubers debating!

[@KyubiCloaks]

6:50 nah bruh we all know observation haki is inconsistent asf. Kaido aint make it work if thats the case why couldn't kaido and luffy (two people whose observation haki is so good they can use future sight) sense the cp0 agent before he jumped onto luffy

[@novsmith4547]

Observation haki comes and goes as the plot requires it to imo

[@xoe6]

Bruh I love when these 2 get together and debate can never get enough they both gonna go crazy when next chapter comes out and I can't wait lol

[@SlightlyLux]

Sakazuki’s attacks are all WAY more dangerous in a 1v1 compared to kaido’s, however kaido’s attacks are more devastating overall, hope that makes sense.

[@Clown_Syndrome]

It doesn't

[@ilikechicken5524]

​@@Clown_Syndrome He's saying Akainu could destroy a mountain but luffy could take it directly and be fine. Akainu might not destroy that mountain, but getting hit by that attack would mean losing a limb or your life. Similar to Magellans poison i guess. it isn't very devastating but it's EXTEMELY lethal.

[@Clown_Syndrome]

@@ilikechicken5524 but it's devastating to your life and health.

[@ilikechicken5524]

@@Clown_Syndrome devastating in the sense of destruction capability. An attack that destroys a mountain vs one that doesn't but is much more powerful

[@TornadicTitan17]

"Akainu attacks Kinemon, he's dead" bro not with that plot armor

[@mikey_dh5662]

Old man WB was the weakest Yonki but still can beat each admiral 1vs1 8 out of 10 times. Thats with the stab wound and haeart attack without that he beats them 10 out of 10 1v1. High diff but still he wins

[@jasonmatthews52]

That's cap, most of the attacks WB was landing on Akainu and the other admirals were filler. In the manga WB was getting folded by the admirals.

[@Khaled68335]

@@jasonmatthews52 Whitebeard knocked out akainu in 2 hits and akainu was out and no wear to be found for in entire chapter If that was a legit 1vs1 WB would’ve killed him. You really consider those achievements against a dying sick men with heart attacks? Any admirals will get folded by any yonko

[@depresseddude914]

Kizaru literally clapped him on many occasions Stop your fanboying

[@Lan96]

The title & thumbnail is..unique to say the least 😂

[@justin6021]

Kaido is strongest living character in One Piece so far. If he is "fresh" he beats Luffy, high diff.

[@Clown_Syndrome]

Medium diff...let's not kid ourselves right now

[@ericturner34]

Akainu's magma got nothin on the heat of this debate! DAMN THIS INTENSE!!!

[@Muteb14]

Did BDA just say that Vista is as strong as MIHAWK!! just to give more credit to Akainu handling white beard pirates? this is the biggest CAP I heard in a while

[@yeee17]

He isn't as strong as mihawk but he is still top swordsman

[@yeboahamoafo6500]

My boy really accused him of being philosophical like Sam Harris :🤣🤣🤣

[@loveqeeb8643]

how are we debating if akainu is yonko level when we have clearly seen him fight a yonko.

[@urekmazino6800]

He lost to a half dead yonko with cancer 🤣

[@softelocke491]

I’m not sure where brago puts him, but I think he puts akainu top 2

[@guilha3797]

And he stomped

[@Ligma_Shlong]

marco yonko level according to you

[@harsh_1910]

I do think he is but this is a terrible argument as according to that nami is yonko level as she was fighting buggy alongside luffy

[@KagenoMugen444]

they were doing good 1st 5 mins actually agreeing with eachother, than oLd mAn nEwGaTe vs walking volcano came to play

[@Rock.D.Casbah]

Whitebeard was not walking away from the injuries that Akianu gave him. Akianu did walk away. End of story

[@justjoking4223]

Whitebeard was on dialysis drip. End of story.

[@olisanzeribe6391]

But then you forget Whitebeard had a heart attack before Akainu even landed a single hit. It’s not as easy as that

[@Kami-ye9lx]

@@olisanzeribe6391 and Akainu literally needed to manipulate a crew member to stab Whitebeard 😭

[@beingofinconceivablehorror1854]

Akainu isn't walking away from the heart attack whitebeard had if it were him 🤷‍♂️ or even swap whitebeard with akainu. Akainu and pirates get steam rolled by marines and Whitebeard, way more one sided than the original fight.

[@michaeldavis6993]

​@@beingofinconceivablehorror1854 glad you brought that up, akainu wouldn't take damage from fodder, so he would have actually performed better than whitebeard, squard would fail to stab akainu, and the only injuries akainu would get, would have to be from whitebeard. Also, how do you even swap them? Akainu can't make tsunamis, so aokiji wouldn't freeze the ocean. Would be a different war.

[@manincave2959]

Akainu did pull a bitch move at the end tho he was supposed to die his body was in shock when white beard hit him he wasn't supposed to move 😂

[@chirstopherakimichi1643]

Brago’s references are entertaining lol. KoL you have to admit Akainu tanking WB attack feats were way better than Oden’s, Kaido at the time prob wasn’t a yonko yet, and Oden even told him to “get stronger”, the yonko version of him now def stronger than back then by a solid amount. And Akainu took WB, who has higher attack power(dubbed as World destroyer) than Kaido, better than Oden tanked Kaido’s club. And Akainu couldn’t kill Marco wasn’t a good argument, BM and Kaido couldn’t kill Marco either, it’s prob a hassle for any top tier to kill Marco, due to his ability.

[@billalzerouali4436]

Just because oden told him to get stronger doesnt mean he got that much stronger,. He was about 40 at that fight, I doubt he had much room to grow. Shank, Mihawk, Marco are all about 40 and they probably arent getting much stronger. It's not an ability thing for Marco. Akainu never even damaged him for the regen to even take effect. Everytime akainu has tried to attack marco they have evenly clashed. While the only reason he was able to clash with big mom was cause his fire had a good matchup and even then she neutralized him pretty quickly, something akainu never did. Kaido didn't even really fight Marco not sure why u brought that up

[@slickricky769]

Wasn't big mom with the help of perospero about to kill marco quite easily and the only time marco took damage during Marineford war was when he had the seastone cuffs? I do think that it would be like a mid dif fight for any top tier to kill marco though and big mom was more intertested in killing luffy

[@tizzy397]

Whitebeard was hooked up to life support before marineford bro he went there to die in battle

[@kingezo2995]

I don’t see why that is. Oden took on way more damage at the time he fought Kaido. And he also took a prime Rogers named attack and kept Pushin P tbh that’s technically a feat we ain’t seen no one do yet. Also Whitebeard was literally dying when he hit a fresh Akainu

[@chirstopherakimichi1643]

@@billalzerouali4436 just look at Kaido, hybrid, drunken deity themed moves, and his dragon torch, non were shown during Oden fight,current Kaido has a lot more in the bag. It’s not about age, people around 40 can improve, like Urouge, if Oda implies that’s the case. Akainu did damage Marco during their brief clash, in the close up panel Marco’s face was burning and had blue flame activated on it. Akainu only fought Marco for 1 exchange, I don’t think it’s holds more weight than something like Carrot vs Zoro. But portrayal wise, Akainu was able to face 13 WB commanders(including Marco) and scare off BB pirate(stronger than WB remnants), he’s def a lot stronger than Marco.

[@MurangShaBu_MahalNaBiGas]

Facts!!!, Doffy pull stunts in front of Aokiji during Smoker incident, attempt to throw hands with Fujitora and birdcage the whole desgrosa knowing that an Admiral is present and he's assuming he can silent them all by killing all of them inside birdcage.

[@teodorkirov678]

Naahh: after Whitebeard's fight with Akainu, Sengoku exclaims: ''He still has this much power after having half of his face blown off?'' and then Whitebeard says: ''I'm not done yet''(actually in some translations he says: ''I'm just getting started''). Whitebeard is literally exceeding the expectations of someone who he has fought multiple times in the past. Therefore: Blackbeard's crew deserves the credit for killing him and Akainu is (at most) equal to him.

[@kingezo2995]

Thank you. That mans was still putting out shots after Akainu hit him twice full blast plus a heart attack. Blackbeard mos def gets the body

[@goldcreeper7376]

What do you mean, equal ? Whether you're talking about Marineford or now, Akainu is def weaker than old Whitebeard

[@blackboybebop7319]

the point is, whitebeard was not surviving after the akainu attacks. theres simply no way he was going to continue living after those attacks

[@kingezo2995]

@@blackboybebop7319 yeah but you can’t say eventually counts cause the fact of the matter is he was still blowing backs out after those attacks

[@teodorkirov678]

@@blackboybebop7319 well let's think for example about Oden: after the boiling Kaido stated that shooting him would be an act of mercy as the injuries he sustained would eventually give him a painful death. I doubt many people would say that it was the oil who should get the credit for killing Oden instead of Kaido.

[@RajiTheAcrobat]

FROM THE BAACCKKKK 😂😂😂

[@neos5432]

We literally saw IVA and jimbei both tank/block akainus magma and we do know that the scarbards have RYUO haki, jimbei DOES NOT have that. for sure jimbeis haki is stronger than kinemons but saying IVA IVA IVA IVA is stronger or significantly stronger than the scarbards is straight CAP. so no akainu aint more lethal than kaido.

[@ub3r979]

iva is a top officer for the revolutionarys. kinimon is not stronger than iva

[@DaKillaCroc859]

Fleet Admiral Akainu > Base Kaido Fleet Admiral Akainu < Full Dragon Form Fleet Admiral Akainu = Hybrid Kaido

[@neos5432]

@@ub3r979 rev comanders are the least impresive BY FAR. iva is not touching a scarbard when she couldnt even beat magelan keep coping.

[@Jb-id1bu]

@@neos5432 ......huh? How does that track? Magellan had Ivankov, Crocodile and Jimbei ALL running at the same time. And I you literally just said Jimbei was stronger than Kin. So claiming that Ivankov losing to Magellan means Iva couldn't beat Kin is a nonsensical argument. You're being inconsistent.

[@neos5432]

@@Jb-id1bu the reason they were running was obviously because they were trying to get to marinefort on time which is exactly why jimbei stoped luffy from fighting BB. So its not inconsistent cause any scabbard would beat magellan/iva cause of ryuo haki, hell its implied start of time skip sanji> iva. Man really said JIMBEI/CROC running from maggelans bitch ass, might as well make magelan part of the great powers.

[@charlesredd9619]

AYOO!! THIS TITLE OUTTA POCKET🧐🤷🏾🤣🤣🤣

[@ermacbigmac]

The safest bet is yonkos are 100, admirals range between 85-95 with akainu most likely being a 95-100. Akainu has the most significant bodies in the story and the best portrayal and wank by Oda. No one comes close to being as wanked as akainu besides Oden. We’ve been told akainu has the most destructive/offensive DF. And he’s the only person the MC actually has a grudge against. There’s simply no reality where akainu isn’t teetering or IS at yonko level. Depending if the admirals are the next main antagonist or end game antagonist akainu being the main one puts him borderline yonko at the very minimum

[@MetakJesu07]

That makes no sense. The story itself only ever places them together, so the safest bet is that both groups are simply comparable with individual comparisons coming down to match ups. Akainu & Blackbeard are two of the antagonist highlighted since the start of the New World, so of course Akainu is comparable to any of them if not one of the strongest among them.

[@ermacbigmac]

@@MetakJesu07 bruh how did what I say make no sense but you still agreed with me. Akainu is set up to be one of the strongest antagonist. You just have a different reasoning. I explained it in a dumbed down version that most people here would understand

[@MetakJesu07]

@@ermacbigmac You threw out random numbers like Yonko being "100" or Admirals being "85." That's what made no sense when they are only ever placed together in the story. Akainu doesn't have to be "borderline" anything. The narrative already indicates that he's one of the top individuals among the Yonko & Admirals.

[@uncomfortabletruths7990]

Yet no admiral and I mean no admiral has been revealed to have conquerors haki not even once. They r simply normal dudes with the best devil fruits and training in armement haki. There is no proof to even say admirals r on yonko level, old sick whitebeard was throwing him around like a rag doll. While kaido and blitz luffy in gear 4th and one shot him

[@tragiic333]

If this was true then there wouldn’t be yonko

[@canned3880]

That basketball part was hilarious

[@eastdav]

Blackbeard only walked away from two fights. One was akainu

[@JarryMingles]

I could listen/watch a 1-on-1 reveriee with these two for hours.

[@Habib-I]

I mean we have to be realistic, the next time they’ll fight if they even fight, Luffy would be as strong as Kaido or even stronger

[@avalac7412]

yes but people fail to process that, clearly niggas with lava,gravity,light fruits will be a bigger hurdle to over come those df's give them unimaginable capabilities, i legit can't wrap my head around one piece tards disrespecting the admirals 🤣 did they not see punk hazard already fighting them is gonna require a massive effort if they're able to fight 10 days non stop.

[@babauzuafa5332]

He would be as strong not stronger, if Luffy was still standing up with a fist up after his last attack against kaido then it would be clear he is stronger but even he was finished

[@ilovecody7514]

That title is reaching ninth level of hell forms of cursed. You've outdone yourself Kingu.

[@Rock.D.Casbah]

KOL, a Sanji fanboy, is the last person who should be saying copium. KOL SERIOUSLY hates the admirals. Hella underestimating them

[@solecontent4603]

Shoutout to the editor!