[YBA] "Boxing Needs a Nerf"

[@bearicusgaming2774]

paragon probably lost to a boxing user while he was using paragon platinum 😭🙏

[@guyjohnnamejohn]

He's lost to bb boxing on stream

[@Waterishloki100]

@@guyjohnnamejohnnah i NEED to see this please elaborate further

[@guyjohnnamejohn]

@@Waterishloki100 He was streaming 1v1s and then went against bb box and lost

[@unsnowki]

He also lost to sympaths

[@dktf2809]

Remember old bleed on kc and box , paragon afther he lost to prest 1 with kc box he nerfed both instantly

[@VovaOGG]

Paragon got his feelings hurt by that one guy with standless box 😭🙏

[@Cat_Omglol]

Oh hi, im a fan of your videos lol i love ur wa vids

[@VovaOGG]

@@Cat_Omglol ty bro

[@fr_itsMochA]

why peak yba youtuber is here on comments

[@anticrim5321]

another note: an m1 hit with pluck sword also confirms blitz strike do what you will with that

[@사텐]

I think that paragon wants to reduce skill gap to increase accessibility to pvp. Not only skilled players play the game, most players have mid skill.

[@guyjohnnamejohn]

but shouldn't the comp community be held higher? the players have spent hours upon hours mastering the game and finding techs, but they're allowing the low skill people who are probably not going to devote hours to their game to learn it to get off easy?

[@lol56434]

@@guyjohnnamejohnmaking the quality of life better for the majority of the playerbase is a higher priority

[@사텐]

​@@guyjohnnamejohn also comp community must be served as well. Finding the adequate balance is the job that devs do

[@ThatGuy-pj2kh]

People talk about yba like it’s a difficult game most “skilled” players use a braindead stand moderately well and know the basics of the game Majority of lb players are just abusing Ger and star platinum and hiding behind cheap moves (barrage + tree, rtz, counter, heal, awk, etc.) while moving unpredictably I don’t consider myself good, but I can fold people in quite a few 1v1s just with a timeskip stand due to its unpredictability, but if I were to pick up ger and nolife the game I could get on lb, even tho it wouldn’t be fun. ccg is good, but his gameplay is playing counters/punishing and moving/spamming unpredictably. I’m not saying he’s bad, I’m saying this is what it takes in yba to be “good”

[@skibidijelqer896]

@@ThatGuy-pj2khbeing on lb ≠ being comp

[@clouvdz]

Paragon: Lets nerf the rest too!

[@openswaggerrrr]

broooo paragon is so RETARDED

[@Genoc1de_]

all specs were already confirmed to be nerfed and have only 4 moves

[@openswaggerrrr]

@@Genoc1de_ Oh ok nice

[@anqhor]

personally think that nerfing all specs bar maybe spin is a good idea, but nerfing only boxing right now is stupid as shit especially when its not even debatably the best one

[@openswaggerrrr]

@@anqhor I dont think hes nerfing one at a time, if he is hes retarded (he 100% is, we all know paragon is braindead so its ggs to boxing for now)

[@YoastnToastn]

yes paragon gut boxing but let hamon continue to be the easiest and freest damage in the entire game

[@Ellis2GoofballBoogaloo]

Just use purple haze boxing and you basically beat all hamon users.

[@Frocchi]

"All specs are getting this treatment"

[@clementinesuite5150]

​@@Ellis2GoofballBoogaloo even if purple haze + boxing works so well, the rest of the game is being completely broken because of the hamon

[@davos12350]

I feel like paragon has some hatred towards boxing. Boxing has already received a decent nerf and he still wanna nerf it more? He doesn't even nerf shits like hamon that is more broken

[@Frocchi]

"All specs are getting this treatment"

[@tra-reads9337]

Boxing just has so much range bc of the boxing shuffle and the stun. So if you literally use boxing u can do like 70+ dmg with just the moves only, compared to hamon having countrrsble moved and used for increased damage mostly

[@Le_SavedMessages]

@@tra-reads9337boxing’s almost all moves don’t even have stun,so you have to rely on blockbreak,also you won’t be able to do combos without blockbreaks on boxing.

[@clementinesuite5150]

​@@tra-reads9337just to note, hamon has 2 true combo breaker and 1 incredibly good combo starter that usually leads to fatal combo. My friend came up with a 3-moves combo on WA + hamon (one of the moves is zoom punch) which deals more than 100 damage even if you have boxing armor. The most simple solution is just increase hp up to 300 or smth. This fixes a lot of problems with damage yk

[@1adz_78]

​@@Le_SavedMessages yeah im pretty sure the only stun move is knuckle sandwich they need to add stun to liver shot it has barely any and its never enough to actually land a combo

[@ricedolphin7348]

They need to make winrates public so that people can really see how meta Boxing is. And you know that already, every ranked player plays boxing

[@anjer7999]

It doesnt need to be published, cuz 71% winrate on ger box speaks for itself

[@cengix8850]

U just suck and lost to a better box player lol did you even watch the video? Sp pluck is absolutely ridiculous and has a 95% true combo against box players same with sptw sc etc it’s not the better players fault for using the most versatile spec they would whoop you specless 😂

[@cengix8850]

Ger box is the same as ger hamon or vamp it’s just box is the most versatile spec, also those boxing players could win specless against u 😂

[@Frocchi]

@@cengix8850you have a fortnite pfp, your opinion does not matter

[@antek9095]

@@cengix8850 NAHHH bro did NOT glaze boxing users like that, WAITER WAITER MORE HYPERARMOR AOE PLS

[@Ильяленивый]

"y'all need it" Name me one person who ever complained about any spec needing a rehaul(except for sometimes vamp or pluck)

[@faga_geo6516]

exactly bruh,i feel like only pluck and box have the feel of the old yba pvp,hamon vamp and spin have counters and slow asf moves that are huge and deal immense ammounts of dmg

[@BiggPPguy]

I miss old Pluck's flying move

[@Frocchi]

"All specs are getting this treatment"

[@vivelespatat2670]

Im begging to have old vamp back PLEASE, Vaporisation Freeze was so much more unique rather than the current version which is just a stun.

[@faga_geo6516]

@@BiggPPguy aerial ace🥲

[@godussop9882]

cgg, paragon dropped his planned changes to all specs in general 1 in YBA server and hes icing the useless moves on other specs while removbing a vital move for boxing please bro

[@sapo__]

Aint no one adressing the fact that GER still is busted as ever + TA4 with high fps is still unbeatable without a counter

[@JURVEXYT]

It's so true that pluck confirms beatdowns it really sucks

[@koenigseggpeta4360]

removes knuckle sandwich but not haymaker 🤦‍♂

[@bagfruit123]

They should have just removed liver shot aswell and give us a new eye gouge 😂

[@vivelespatat2670]

Removing both of them would be lovely 🙏

[@sixshooter2318]

removing the whole game would be epic 🔥

[@koenigseggpeta4360]

even though the community voted no to the spec changes, he basically said "womp womp" and is gonna go through with the changes anyway... what a nice community manager, really says how much he cares about his community

[@DeimosWhitesnake]

​@@koenigseggpeta4360REAL!

[@TysonTubeHD]

2:12 bros got pilot on tusk

[@speed8819]

Everyone's been denying to me that all these specs are broken and need changes INCLUDING hamon which I feel is the most obnoxious when trying to put on pressure with dealing with sendo and luck and pluck. It's been making me go insane seeing all the different ways either garbage players or try hard yet dependent kids have been defending these specs all the time

[@Le_SavedMessages]

paragon’s logic be like: “nerf boxing,buff hamon” instead,paragon must nerf the other specs besides spin and boxing.

[@Clouded_ZERO]

paragon wipes server with paragon plat: I sleep someone beats him with box: real shit?

[@eeveelocks4078]

Paragon is the 1# boxing hater Like boxing like top 4 now paragon wants it to be bottom tier 😭

[@blaBla-wz8xt]

Boxing now is just for "safe players" while hamon and pluck are for good players, with vamp and spin for dedicated builds.

[@mar0der867]

It seems to me that the reason for boxing nerfs is not only the Paragon's desire to make boxing look like the old one, take a look at the main game now, every more or less strong player plays boxing, gang wars pass between boxing users, I play quite often and about 70% of all players who play normally and met on my way play boxing And similar nerfs from paragon can force players to play not only on boxing And those people who say that "Paragon lost to a boxer and therefore he decided to nerf boxing" in fact, they are right, but I would do the same in paragon's place, I went into the main game and there every person are box user

[@bawlsaggg]

bcos boxing is the most versatile spec💀💀people want consistency not 3 million buttons to press in a row

[@mar0der867]

@@bawlsaggg you're right

[@dabman4721]

ppl using box cuz it’s legit the most easiest spec to use

[@cengix8850]

It’s not like other specs are bad lol it’s just no one wants to play like a loser

[@dabman4721]

@@cengix8850 I’m not saying that other specs are bad, they just have too much moves and hard to use overall

[@БельзебубБельзебубович]

spin needs a buff

[@someonewashere480]

What do you think about YBA??? Whole community: kill paragon and delete/rework the game

[@Ellis2GoofballBoogaloo]

Pluck definitely is busted generally, it's way too effective and the downside of no extra defense isn't equal at all to its actual power. I think they decided to go with boxing because of the fact you can boxing shuffle into every move which makes confirming combo starters, extenders, stupidly easy, as well as making jawbreaker basically guaranteed damage unless the victim can counter. Hopefully pluck is next up on the chopping block though.

[@uznik399]

The combo starters in question: Knuckle sandwitch (no stun, around 12 damage) Liver shot (awful stun that cant confirm most of the moves, around 20 total damage with bleed The free jawbreaker damage: 20.9 if they have no def, 17.7 on average, less than 15 on awks and stuff. Haymaker>shuffle got patched long time ago. Shuffle surely makes boxing's op 100 damage moves even more threatening! Its the spec i dont have to rely on stand's damage completely with!

[@uznik399]

Oh yeah forgot to mention boxing gives you around 50 effective hp and a costly useless dash buffs

[@HisilfiD]

2 d4clt hamon barrages

[@ny_xu]

imma be real with how insane many players are at yba now it makes me not wanna return to the game

[@yourbizarre_sub]

paragon got butthurt after losing to boxing user😹

[@Frocchi]

"All specs are getting this treatment"

[@사텐]

I heard that uzu will collect data about winrate/pickrate of specs. I hope paragon to patch with the data.

[@toshik6229]

he already showed ger boxing 70% win rate and said “and you say boxing isn’t op

[@The_Valy]

@@toshik6229 thats ger's fault though, not boxing, thats a terrible excuse to nerf boxing when the thing that is overpowered is ger

[@toshik6229]

@@The_Valy ikr, paragon is retarded

[@ricedolphin7348]

​@@The_Valydid you even see the post? GER with Pluck had 45% winrate compared to Boxing, this definitely isn't GER's issue

[@cengix8850]

@ricedolphin7348 Because no one with half a brain would use ger pluck over ger box for wins LOL pluck is prob the worst combo with ger

[@sandramiller2447]

They gotta make this game more mobile compatible pc has so much stuff mobile can’t do for some reason

[@Jakarao3]

Paragon is so offended by boxing that he decided to weaken it so that it would not be playable. Lmao

[@Frocchi]

"All specs are getting this treatment"

[@Evaminelove]

14:05 GOAT BAIT😮

[@Nm47.]

every spec is getting a slight rework to its kit so its more balanced and cost efficient, so its not just boxing.

[@Meow20248]

I mean, I personally think so, but not in the skills, I just think that the boxing dash needs a nerft.

[@Tf2opjn]

Literally just dash + block to avoid the dash

[@Meow20248]

@@Tf2opjn blockbreaker?

[@Frocchi]

"All specs are getting this treatment"

[@MickeyRblx]

Your pluck skills got better cgg

[@nuggetrisuYT]

How about me 😇

[@CoolGuyGamerz]

@@nuggetrisuYT No

[@MickeyRblx]

@@nuggetrisuYT i dont play but ill see later

[@MickeyRblx]

@@CoolGuyGamerz we should pvp sometime tho i dont play anymore

[@apparentlyicantuse...9828]

Paragon didn't nerf boxing, he just nerfed everything

[@Idontevenknowbro-oy2pq]

idk what you guys expect, 8ball is the new balance team in YBA and whos comp in eu or got knowledge knows that 8ball are the worst players in comp EU so heres what they gonna do: since i beat whole 8ball with c moon and sp they will gut c moon gut sp and gut boxing ofc, they will gut everything except for the stands and specs they use (cream hamon or vamp which is 100x more braindead than ger and you cant beat cream 500 fps unless you play a stand that got a counter because the void surprise will always be true if ur on low ping and high fps) prolly will buff them too to finally get a advantage over me and the other players 8ball hates. So yeah goodluck thanks YBA for bringing shit players in the balance team.

[@lakistevanov9649]

They really went too far on spec balancing. I mean its called a SPEC it shouldn't literally carry you more than a stand and basically are reworks are just broken combos you cant do anything about and yba is kinda ruined.

[@teoinanutshell2314]

Twoh hamon can snap away your hp like thanos bruh💀

[@Ar1ma_Ari]

he put the cleanest clips in this video and thought we wouldn’t notice

[@skanz3e99]

Bro did allat to avoid using spin 😭😭🙏🙏

[@gohanbm6335]

They want to buff Box with the argument that Pluck and Hamon aren't bad. More than half of the players use Box, while Spin is left crying.

[@PerroPelado]

Most specs and stands need a balance change.

[@evnank4276]

lets be clear, every stand/spec combo is op in this guy's hands

[@bagfruit123]

They should just remove haymaker knuckle and liver and maybe give us one stunning move like an eye gouge or something 😂😂

[@uznik399]

Yeah just bring back old boxing with shuffle and shit's gonna be crazier than it ever was

[@dablueice2083]

I hate how boxing right now is jack of all trades. You get the moves (there used to be 3, now look at the amount), gives you the tankiness without really sacrificing anything and it gives you the damage. Pluck is essentially the same as it was pre rework, having alot of moves not doing too much dmg but for rather comboing withour hp or all dmg buffs. Hamon basically got a buff with you being able to use the moves without the charge, but people got it for the dmg boost and dmg resistance. Spin is meant to cover long range and so exceeds at it. Vampirism so far has been cheese pre rework and after it too (double counter, free health regen, pre rework inf combos, etc). Plucks long range moves so far are dash moves, while boxing's is an ultimate, block break, huge hitbox move that gives you a shield. You can also pin point how boxing has been good for a long time with star platinum and C-moon boxing been everywhere for the longest out of any spec/stand combo.

[@datoneguy8926]

I actually talked to paragon in general chat he said all specs are gonna get changes like this but I doubt it

[@Genoc1de_]

good news , u were wrong

[@flamestorm1468]

To be fair.. like 98% of sweats and rank players are boxers so it kinda does get boring fighting boxer after boxer after boxer... Something tells me pluck is gonna get the same treatment

[@davos12350]

Nah, surely pluck is gonna get some buff just because "it has no defense"

[@unrandom_a-e]

I always wanted to be good at pvp and make my first wipe in sbr but I was always killed by those who had op stands

[@isuckateverything9676]

The specs have so much cheese in them

[@maratikarsenal]

Paragon nerfs box,imagine lost to the mike tyson in yba

[@powertower2297]

pluck hamon combo thats the worst idea sense boxing vamp whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[@invinciblebeast1915]

funny how the only people complaining are boxing users (which is 70% of the population) who don't know what it's like to play boxers most of the time without hamon or boxing.

[@СеняМорсин]

Btw have you tried tusk4 pluck? Pierce confirms every single move bro its so op. I remeber doing crescent slice into pierce into wormhole beatdown. Then I caught em with unsealed steel, pierce, barrage, pierce, wormhole nails and beatdown. It does like 80% period

[@chadlj]

Lets see if paragon can nerf himself or not (his pride wont let him)

[@alistar3414]

tbf paragon did say all specs are getting nerfed

[@KingNaww]

Paragon already crippled comp with the spec reworks lowering the skill gap between players now he wanna completely remove skill gaps and make the game build vs build

[@Frocchi]

Paragon is not a developer he didn't make the spec reworks

[@Sam-pt7qi]

saying anything besides boxing and pluck are the 2 best specs is just bias lmfao

[@reconstructwhat]

hamon/pluck

[@SeaBeastHunter]

I'm still waiting for purple haze rework

[@copilsclenozat6284]

I understand him partially cuz altough i am a boxing user i stlill have problem tracking a good sp box cuz the mobility it has.The only problem of that spec is the shuffle the rest is alr

[@cengix8850]

boxing has been nerfed to almost shit and you want to nerf the one thing keeping it from that

[@antenakic3656]

Ur either having brain damage or you have less than 46 chromosomes

[@peliodas227]

Bro, ur picture on your channel is jotaro part 4, why don't you play SPTW? Show us some combos, some bd confirms, crazy stuff. Looking forward to it

[@CH--LeXuanQuang]

He did 2 videos on sptw pluck wiping sbr already plus sptw moves are hella fast, i dont think it rly needs a deep analysis

[@Necromancer2779]

Boxing best spec on YBA, (I eat a roka on the spec pluck and buy box), Pluck best spec on YBA

[@sus6968]

After paragon lost to sympath's ger boxing hes nerfing boxing so he's not getting folded anymore 😂😂

[@simanchik]

Hi, I saw you play c moon very well, I wonder if you would prefer pvp more than c-moon? maybe sp or sptw?

[@lebahung3421]

Paragon doesnt even play the game bro

[@Frocchi]

There isn't a need to play the game to nerf boxing when its the most played spec

[@felixybababy]

bro forgot to read that all specs will be changed

[@PabloisReall]

For everyone commenting that boxing the only spec getting nerfed you are dead wrong.If you actually checked you can see they are nerfing/reworking every spec thats op each spec will have 4 moves.

[@altacc0604]

Why is spin considered bad? I somewhat enjoy using it but im afraid that it might not be effective

[@MiraiNoDame]

Nah bro abandon that shitty game fr 2 years without a real update fr. (I have bough every pass in 3 dif accs btw, wasted money.) SC rework when? Cream rework when? Sticky Fingers rework came MORE THAN A YEAR LATER Uzukee rework when? Rework rework when?

[@homeholer]

and then he adds critical hits to m1s talking about balance 😭😭😭

[@godussop9882]

Cgg qe are officially cooked check balances only hamon is viable

[@kogame6464]

Pls show you're build on c moon box

[@on11chanhh61]

if u comparing box and other fs add some numbers hamon have same cds and if u comparing jaw and hamon burn punch overall dmg with burn will be more only on 10 with full burn also box has passive defense same as hamon when charged, it gaining same dmg by his moves and combos which can be landed by broken passive which lowering windups as sword box giving op mobility and low cd stuns at this points box having the best parts of hamon and sword without any debufs tbh only that should be nerfed in hamon length of stun at zoom punch at sword should me more cd on pierce circle slash should be parrible on both hit and mortal slash should be blockable

[@СавелийМакаров-р7ц]

Why ger pluck playing how ger box💀🙏

[@anjer7999]

Its not in the update or announcement channels, where is that post?

[@Katurno_]

Do not give him reasons to nerf pluck or any other thing 😭🙏😭🙏🙏

[@gatodepe]

please show me your silver chariot skill tree with sword art

[@Extinct_Gaming]

maybe nerf boxing shuffle and i don't know about knuckle sandwich

[@Olegowich]

Knuckle doesn't needs any nerfs, it's already suck💀

[@cyru6]

why are they changing boxing i thought they already nerfed it

[@DucIm-co3jf]

can u do other specs videos?

[@ilyes3300]

this game is so sad

[@adonisgreaves4475]

Would spin mr president be good?

[@TheGoofiestGooberFR]

paragon is lowkey delusional if he thinks boxing needs a heavy nerf 😂😂😂 if u compare boxing to specs like vamp and hamon (which are braindead for no reason) boxing looks like a moveset an npc would use. if paragon was gonna remove any move from boxing it shoulda been shuffle or haymaker 💯

[@duckmanultro7042]

It is obvious that spin needs nerf

[@TrueDeckai]

despite this, the box is still broken

[@HitnRunnerThe1th]

ger boxing or cd boxing next please

[@НикитаКуйчогло-л5ц]

Ok hamon & pluck op, why u usualy use boxing?

[@Lava_Lazy]

I see... Nerf everything 👹

[@СеняМорсин]

Bro Im pretty sure that sptw pluck has a true 100% combo💀

[@JustSomeTiredGuy]

This game is beyond cooked I'm surprised theres still ppl playing it

[@fork8389]

bluds fr the sweatty grim reaper X_X

[@kirpichinz]

Bro other specs will get "nerfed" too

[@davos12350]

According to paragon:

[@passiontstone4472]

spin: 🪦

[@airophobia3155]

Yall acting like pluck isnt getting any changes. Like maybe read all the polls first then make this video?

[@TheEvolvedGodzilla0321]

Can you do a 1v1 against l1ght_sama?

[@unpull.]

CGG THE KING OF YBA....❤

[@lephrog5304]

bro uses counter on M

[@_dozer]

what does this have to do with boxing

[@moliartys866]

Bro. Are you dumb or yes?

[@Mahdi12]

I think he means why would you nerf boxing when other specs are as broken

[@Brandon-ct8vo]

You overestimate the average player. Most people don't play YBA at a "comp" level. They can't pull a lot of this wacky stuff off. In general, boxing is supposed to be for survivability but also boosts damage too much, so it was first on the chopping block. And on the topic of other specs being strong too... every other spec is being gutted anyways, so it's not like you'll be at a direct disadvantage if you're using boxing. Aren't you bored of the meta? The game's been in this state for years. It's time we see something other than stock standard GER/C-Moon/SP/KCR boxing.

[@cengix8850]

sp / sptw pluck one shots vamp and spin having spec counters bruford sword having 5 years of stun and massive hitbox pluck having a 3 second cd unreactable zoom punch hamon dealing absurd dmg and having 2 mini haymakers and you complain about boxing instead

[@Brandon-ct8vo]

@@cengix8850 so those should (and will) be nerfed too in the same update as boxing's changes i'm sure you'll survive with weaker specs, dude - if the boxing changes ruin your enjoyment of the game you need to be more open to something different it shouldn't be too difficult to pivot to pluck or vamp if you no longer like boxing assuming you're good at the game anyways

[@cengix8850]

@@Brandon-ct8vo ive seen the changes for other specs, literally just pluck / vamp meta

[@evnank4276]

show us your winstreak in 1v1s

[@EeL-s1b]

Bro, this game is no longer popular.

[@unrandom_a-e]

Hey bro make a video Opening chests

[@BiggPPguy]

Paragon really hates mobile users