Yesterday, I Did Something for the First Time, And Now I'm Overthinking

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Peter Draws

Peter Draws

Күн бұрын

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@leahcatedurrance6099
@leahcatedurrance6099 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Peter. I just wanted to pop in and say that I’ve been subscribed and watched your videos since I was 11. I’m 19 now. While watching this video, I realized when you were talking about anxiety that that’s why I love your videos so much. You’re honest and genuine and even if you do doubt yourself, we all believe in you (if I didn’t, I don’t think I would have practically grown up with you lol). You’re great, man. And to be fair, I would pay so much money to see you draw live with live music playing. That seems like a pique tranquility experience 😌
@adamwest8711
@adamwest8711 2 жыл бұрын
8 years and only 15 comments? You should say hi more.
@walteredstates
@walteredstates 2 жыл бұрын
8 years of growing up with Peter! That's impressive and immense to think about....almost half your young life!! But really, I'm commenting because I think that's an eggselent marketing angle: Pique/Peak tranquility experience! @Peter Draws take note! And while I'm here - great name: "Bach to the Drawing board"
@alexdavis2564
@alexdavis2564 2 жыл бұрын
I will be 21 in a few months and I definitely have a similar sentiment to you. I’ve been watching Peter since middle school and I love and appreciate that we all get to learn and grow together
@evanlenhart7141
@evanlenhart7141 2 жыл бұрын
I was 16 when I saw his mandala vids, now I’m 21. When one finds a good content creator one tends to stick around! :)
@McBoostah
@McBoostah 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve also had this same experience, since before the fountain pen era began. , interesting
@TheNeverposts
@TheNeverposts 2 жыл бұрын
I just like listening to someone's mind wander while a timelapse of their doodles takes form -- there's just something very relaxing about it. I don't know where you're going with either the drawing or your thoughts, but it all flows... Just feels nice.
@TheRipcity
@TheRipcity 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest having zoomed in screens from different angles at the event, since it can be hard to see all the intricacies of the drawing from far away. That’s what’s awesome about these videos, we get a Peter’s eye view of the work
@WesSideER
@WesSideER 2 жыл бұрын
Xbox 360 had one of those visualizers for music. You could control it very subtly with the joysticks. Was awesome haha
@nichita6410
@nichita6410 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say your insanely talented dude honestly, i hope you don't ever let go of your creativity, keep drawing!
@edrozenrozen9600
@edrozenrozen9600 2 жыл бұрын
It's the art that got me here... It's his chill demeanour that keeps me here. 👍
@janniboy2766
@janniboy2766 2 жыл бұрын
I don't wanna be "that guy" and you obviously genuinely wanted to compliment him but calling somebody Talented, that has invested as much time and effort into a craft as Peter, always feels, at least to me, like all that effort is being disregarded. Just felt like sharing that thought process
@edrozenrozen9600
@edrozenrozen9600 2 жыл бұрын
@@janniboy2766 yeah I get what you're saying but it's still a compliment. There's a lot of people out there who work hard who just don't have the talent who don't make it. One of the nice things about this channel is that you can see how much hard work he puts into it.
@adamwest8711
@adamwest8711 2 жыл бұрын
@@janniboy2766 Talent without hard work isn’t worth a great deal and hard work alone will not make you great at something. I think it’s a perfectly valid compliment and is not in any way a detraction.
@Fuzefromr6
@Fuzefromr6 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamwest8711 Adam west with the knowledge 📚
@sunnycharacter
@sunnycharacter 2 жыл бұрын
Peter, you will make the cello, mello. 🎨😎🎻
@karma13612
@karma13612 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your doubts! Hopefully by releasing them, you have let them float away. Yea, you should definitely share the next drawing concert thru a video!
@peter_draws
@peter_draws 2 жыл бұрын
i think it did help! after i say stuff like that out loud, i realize how ridiculous it is, but while it’s still bouncing around in my head, it feels more legitimate and bothers me more
@karma13612
@karma13612 2 жыл бұрын
@@peter_draws Remember, a burden shared, is halved. Keep sharing!! 👍🙋🏼‍♀️🖋💙💛
@adamwest8711
@adamwest8711 2 жыл бұрын
@@peter_draws might be a good thing to share via Twitch as well as KZbin. I miss you Twitch streams.
@Roni-IIH
@Roni-IIH 2 жыл бұрын
Peter! That's a very cool, innovative way to join such a thing! Love that name 😂
@dragonli1y
@dragonli1y 2 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I pet a bunny for the first time, a young wild bunny I had to help. So soft! Thankfully they didn’t need to be caught too long.
@peter_draws
@peter_draws 2 жыл бұрын
cute! i see rabbits when i’m walking sometimes
@scottpitner4298
@scottpitner4298 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing early STS9 live and this person painted during the music and i really liked that.
@avery-go6pb
@avery-go6pb 2 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to watch you draw to Bach
@Sageleafs
@Sageleafs 2 жыл бұрын
peta. your drawing is like a concert. entrancing. i watch from start to end. and the finale. wow. never doubt your talent pete. u are a master.
@priscilla4822
@priscilla4822 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great idea. I just get so relaxed watching you draw.
@artcreative.studio
@artcreative.studio 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds cool. Would love to see "Bach to the Drawing Board" live online. I'd even buy a ticket if it doesn't cost too much. I absolutely enjoy live drawing but I wouldn't get my hopes up on seeing you draw live anytime soon. Fact: This morning I built a snow phallus. I feel like a really good sculptor.
@adamwest8711
@adamwest8711 2 жыл бұрын
Where the heck do you live to be getting snow now?
@walteredstates
@walteredstates 2 жыл бұрын
...yeah. Congrats on the snow-dong.
@lywaa2300
@lywaa2300 2 жыл бұрын
Love the drawing to music idea!!!! Go for it!!!
@cynciesmith6153
@cynciesmith6153 2 жыл бұрын
I like watching you draw but I also like drawing along with you while you talk, you inspire me 😊
@jodiebuell6982
@jodiebuell6982 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't you have doubts when you started doing this? All the great people have self-doubt, and failures. They ride on top of all that to their success. Just be you, and you'll rise above it. You have a whole community behind you. (Now that would make a cool drawing). Anyhoo, sending love, and thank you for the awesome art!
@lucasmarques1045
@lucasmarques1045 2 жыл бұрын
that sounds like a really cool experience, will love to see the photos and a recording in the future
@CinematicSF
@CinematicSF 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys. greetings from Greece
@stevesloan5935
@stevesloan5935 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, as usual. As for your next concert; "don't worry...be happy."
@inkscratch
@inkscratch 2 жыл бұрын
All I can say is they better let you do the album art
@repeat_defender
@repeat_defender 2 жыл бұрын
I love it! I would love to see it! Don't underestimate your fans, Peter... literally, if you invite all of us there might be a couple thousand people showing up.
@AnnieNoodle
@AnnieNoodle 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Bach to the Drawing Board!! I hope you record it next time. The collision of two awesome worlds!! Which sounds amazing and slightly horrific if taken the literal way?
@larry2532
@larry2532 2 жыл бұрын
I love Peter draws
@CharlaAtHome
@CharlaAtHome 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds amazing, Peter! Can’t wait to see (and hear) how it all evolves.
@nathanaelcard
@nathanaelcard 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Peter that music+drawing combo would be incredible! Off and on over the past decade I've been producing stuff like this. There's definitely an audience out there for it, online and off. DO IT!
@nathanaelcard
@nathanaelcard 2 жыл бұрын
If you want some consultation, I'd be happy to help, pro bono
@graysonsoldahl
@graysonsoldahl 2 жыл бұрын
I love shows where there are live artists on stage with the musicians! Add dancers for another dimension :)
@tiredhousewitch
@tiredhousewitch 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Peter, I really like the idea of classical music and drawing - it's like it allows you to see the live interpretation of the music through the art! I'd love to watch that 😁
@Beckelby
@Beckelby 2 жыл бұрын
The photography metaphor is amazing. I love the image of "exposing the canvas to the light of music", that's beautiful.
@RinTV2
@RinTV2 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of your reading/drawing videos. They are my favs. I love being read to in a very creative way.
@luayuahmed
@luayuahmed 2 жыл бұрын
The live music+art combo sounds awesome. It's uncommon for sure, and you would have to figure out the staging and setting, but I would love to attend that.
@RichMitch
@RichMitch 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. No need to over think, it's gonna be OK
@grunfeuer6106
@grunfeuer6106 2 жыл бұрын
how u know the topic after 1 min
@RichMitch
@RichMitch 2 жыл бұрын
@@grunfeuer6106 I am wisdom
@Roni-IIH
@Roni-IIH 2 жыл бұрын
@@grunfeuer6106 lol
@grunfeuer6106
@grunfeuer6106 2 жыл бұрын
@@RichMitch so i fished the video and i am fully on your side
@RichMitch
@RichMitch 2 жыл бұрын
@@grunfeuer6106 it's great to have you with me, Grün Feuer 🙏🏻
@maragiogliov
@maragiogliov 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your thoughts dear Peter...they give me calm.
@sarahjokascha4616
@sarahjokascha4616 2 жыл бұрын
still waiting for my peter pen 😊 I'm so exited when I can make the first drawing with it!
@dianaseely4852
@dianaseely4852 2 жыл бұрын
Bach to the drawing board. Love it!
@roxisone
@roxisone 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Peter & thank you.
@melkerart1793
@melkerart1793 2 жыл бұрын
Is anyone else also "jamming" to Peter's videos? I'll start watching one of his videos, pick up a pen and draw in a similar style. It's very relaxing and I don't care about the result...it's the PROCESS.
@theamateurpoint8755
@theamateurpoint8755 2 жыл бұрын
You're awesome. That combination of music and drawing sounds delicious 👍😘
@mc101
@mc101 2 жыл бұрын
LIVE STREAM THE NEXT EVENT - "BACH TO THE DRAWING BOARD".... I love the idea!!
@msx64kb
@msx64kb 2 жыл бұрын
"Imposter syndrome is loosely defined as doubting your abilities and feeling like a fraud. It disproportionately affects high-achieving people, who find it difficult to accept their accomplishments. Many question whether they're deserving of accolades."
@stevesmolik24
@stevesmolik24 2 жыл бұрын
Peter and Carl, Your Bach to the drawing board is such a unique idea! Go for it 100%! I’ll bet you can perform the same demonstration in the university auditorium, as part of your classes, get credit, and possibly both gain more subscribers. Please tape the next demonstration and post it, so we can enjoy drawing to Bach.
@poli5658
@poli5658 Жыл бұрын
You remind me a lot of Daniel Kitson as a performer, so much raw talent coupled with keen observation, and a singular engaging style. If you wanted you could do solo shows on stage drawing, talking, thinking
@davidgormley4419
@davidgormley4419 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a perfect performance platform for you. As an ex-professional musician and now artist I’d jump at the chance. It’ll grab you and I know you’ll be addicted. 👍
@rebeccawhite2582
@rebeccawhite2582 2 жыл бұрын
Keep on going, Peter! The new experience sounds amazing. Don't doubt yourself just persist.
@nitewalker11
@nitewalker11 2 жыл бұрын
the idea is really interesting, i wonder how it will evolve as you become more and more familiar with the music and can anticipate the changes in the drawing as they approach as well
@marie_es
@marie_es 2 жыл бұрын
in order to be brave, you have to be afraid of something -- I loved hearing about your show!!! your channel has inspired me for so many years
@troycloutier1504
@troycloutier1504 2 жыл бұрын
I love your idea Peter! And the name is great. I hope it catches on!
@koemeterion
@koemeterion 2 жыл бұрын
I'm only a few seconds in, but that intro alone is worth a like. Made me smile. Thanks for that Peter!
@oscargarcia-vz6jg
@oscargarcia-vz6jg 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea, onward and forward
@muadddib
@muadddib 2 жыл бұрын
Title worked for me at least, havent watched for a few years and came back for this :D
@NoDecaf7
@NoDecaf7 2 жыл бұрын
Bach to the Drawing Board is incredible. I'd pay to watch you draw to cello, Peter.
@xoonaniart
@xoonaniart 2 жыл бұрын
Live drawing with live music sounds amazing!! And what an awesome drawing.. like every time... :)
@FatGooseArts
@FatGooseArts 2 жыл бұрын
Bach to thr Drawing Board sounds like such a unique and great idea! I wish I lived near you so I could go!
@claudiaparis
@claudiaparis 2 жыл бұрын
I love this idea! Maybe if you guys do more shows you could have like a camera, similar to your live streams, that could project you drawing so it’s easier to see for the audience. Also maybe you could sell raffle tickets for the drawings you make and give them away at the end of the show?? Super cool idea!! Good luck to you and your friend 💖💪🏻
@davelester1985
@davelester1985 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. I heard a church in LA was doing the music/art/ during a service.
@Shaggoth4
@Shaggoth4 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter! I'ma musician than had gotten into doodling because of you, sort of opposite of your journey! Haha But eerily enough I had recently gotten into making visualizers for my content over the years since I started following you. Idk I hadn't really thought about how awesome they were until you mentioned it, I just made them for fun playing with video editing. Just saying, thank you so much for being you and doing what you do, it's amazing and beautiful 🙏🙏🙏
@stefanv5972
@stefanv5972 2 жыл бұрын
I love Bach I would love it
@greatscott175
@greatscott175 2 жыл бұрын
There's a part of me that will always miss the days of pre-ad Peter and his old content and his old podcast, but I'm always glad to swing by and see he's still vibing and going well
@peter_draws
@peter_draws 2 жыл бұрын
i miss that too, my goal is to figure out some other way to make money so i don’t have to put ads in my videos, but for right now, it’s the best thing i’ve got.
@adamwest8711
@adamwest8711 2 жыл бұрын
The content free podcast is the only thing I find jarring. The other videos I’ve got used to ads popping up, just like most of the rest of KZbin. Some channels only put them at the beginning and end but all of those channels heavily emphasise that they can only do that because of heavy patreon/member support. Except in the case of Dave Bull who seems to use it more as an advertising opportunity for his business rather than an income stream in and of itself, so I don’t think that really counts as he doesn’t need KZbin to cover living expenses.
@VeylmanTheRock
@VeylmanTheRock 2 жыл бұрын
Before watching the video I just want to say that the headline could describe my entire artistic career so far.
@robertdicarlo4490
@robertdicarlo4490 2 жыл бұрын
Bach to the Drawing Board sounds like a neat project. I hope you do more. Maybe have people sign up for your mailing list and sell prints from the evening.?.?.?.
@joeblankenship377
@joeblankenship377 2 жыл бұрын
You should draw on an overhead projector. Or paint on a backlit canvas like Picasso did in that movie L'Mystere de Picasso or whatever.
@adventureawaits3646
@adventureawaits3646 2 жыл бұрын
I'd certainly watch/listen, been to many music festivals where someone was painting live on or next to the stage, fun experience.
@moosefighta2000
@moosefighta2000 2 жыл бұрын
Miss you Peter!
@najk9067
@najk9067 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should do it. I've actually done something like that before except I was drawing to poets as they presented their spoken word pieces. I think it's a wonderful way to connect in these covid times. I would love to see a live drawing to music. I think you should do it. I would definitely attend.
@mjpete27
@mjpete27 2 жыл бұрын
Hullo Peter, I hope you try again and film or record the session! I am sure your fans her on the "Tube" will enjoy seeing you do what you do! See ya next time!
@thegreatsketchbookjourney523
@thegreatsketchbookjourney523 2 жыл бұрын
Hello again Mr Peter, thank you for the new video.
@tbg750
@tbg750 2 жыл бұрын
Dawg if you get wallpaper engine or rainmeter on your computer you can have your own and sometimes even customizable audio visualizers on your desktop background
@SundayVlogger
@SundayVlogger 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds exhilarating, go Peter (and Carl)
@colorfulwater5070
@colorfulwater5070 2 жыл бұрын
It's good! Do it! Live. The experience is worth the stress. Live improv - I've done it in music for years. It's a unique experience. Don't miss out. :)
@wesleystace9962
@wesleystace9962 2 жыл бұрын
I always listens to you why because it helps me fall asleep you know kind of like Bob Ross's soothing voice you can definitely fall asleep to it
@bornofashes
@bornofashes 2 жыл бұрын
Winamp really whips the llama's ass!
@invntiv
@invntiv 2 жыл бұрын
“Gödel, Escher, Bach: the Eternal Golden Braid” is a fantastic book. I urge everyone to check it out: a 1979 book by Douglas Hofstadter. By exploring common themes in the lives and works of logician Kurt Gödel, artist M. C. Escher, and composer Johann Sebastian Bach, the book expounds concepts fundamental to mathematics, symmetry, and intelligence. Through short stories, illustrations, and analysis, the book discusses how systems can acquire meaningful context despite being made of "meaningless" elements. It also discusses self-reference and formal rules, isomorphism, what it means to communicate, how knowledge can be represented and stored, the methods and limitations of symbolic representation, and even the fundamental notion of "meaning" itself.
@paigetomkinson1137
@paigetomkinson1137 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That's really freaking amazing! I can sort of see it from your description, but now I need to add it to my list of books to read!Thanks for the tip, Joshua.
@scottpitner4298
@scottpitner4298 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great idea!
@danehrovitnir7323
@danehrovitnir7323 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I'm only halfway through the video - but I LOVE the cello suites, and I love watching you draw, so this sounds so good. Just a few too many thousand ks away to be an audience member. :(
@coloringanddoodling9751
@coloringanddoodling9751 2 жыл бұрын
Bach to the drawing sounds fantastic. Another idea would be for you to just do what you do here, drawing and telling your stories, have a camera on your paper shown on a big screen as you tell your thoughts and stories . Sounds like a college tour to me.
@paigetomkinson1137
@paigetomkinson1137 2 жыл бұрын
At least a college tour! Peter's live drawing plus his personality, which comes through his stories, is magic.
@DryCementEater
@DryCementEater 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Peter, you're great. :)
@naumche1
@naumche1 2 жыл бұрын
That’s an amazing idea! You’re great at what you do, just go for it! Just pretend the people aren’t there. Zone out, listen to the music, go with the flow, say and do whatever you need to do you can get through it. If you want to tell yourself you’re the king of the world, then do it. You have a great talent and I enjoy watching you do your thing. I can’t even draw stick figures! 😆
@TheBengineer3712
@TheBengineer3712 2 жыл бұрын
Bach to the drawing board!!!!
@edrozenrozen9600
@edrozenrozen9600 2 жыл бұрын
Peter, decorate your guitar! PLEASE That would be a great video! 🎸🎸🎸
@zilgill9589
@zilgill9589 2 жыл бұрын
You’re the King of my world ❤️🖖
@suzysquidink
@suzysquidink 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds really awesome, would love to come to this if I lived even remotely closely. Would be amazing to see different variations on it, like acrylic paintings, or one of your larger mural pieces
@about80crickets
@about80crickets 2 жыл бұрын
Live improvisation can be intimidating. It gets easier every time, but it will always have that excitement and possibility of disaster. I was in a band, and we would improv for the first 10 minutes of a show without having anything planned out. My guitarist would walk to the mic and say "we're gonna jam for a while", then turn to us and say "go". Those were the only instructions. No chords no tempo no time signature. After doing that for a couple years, I noticed my general anxiety was a lot more manageable. (Also, I feel like your group Bach to the drawing board would make poetry readings a lot more entertaining.)
@Tat2TankT
@Tat2TankT 2 жыл бұрын
Go live your next show I’d watch thanks for sharing bro
@teddytums8615
@teddytums8615 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when I draw it inspires me to play my Bass which in turn inspires me to draw lol I call it creative looping, I get in a real groove sometimes :p
@doc_sav
@doc_sav 2 жыл бұрын
WinAmp! It really whips the llama's a*#.
@sunnycharacter
@sunnycharacter 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Winamp! It was pretty cool. So, what if (you may have already discussed this with Carl) you start out offering your performance via Patreon, each for your individual KZbins? I don’t know, sounds like a fun thing to see and I love classical cello!
@paigetomkinson1137
@paigetomkinson1137 2 жыл бұрын
Was that biggish screens, like tv screens, and the pulsing of the music made almost like psychedelic, colorful abstract images move on the screen, to the music? If that's what you're talking about, they came out a pretty long time ago, but are cool. I'd love to see something like that with Peter and Carl doing their things!
@sunnycharacter
@sunnycharacter 2 жыл бұрын
@@paigetomkinson1137 That was the inky globby screen shows they had in the 70s. We had them on a big movie screen at our dances and concerts at our high school. Ahead, dating myself. 🙈
@paigetomkinson1137
@paigetomkinson1137 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunnycharacter Thanks for the clarification! I do appreciate it.
@sunnycharacter
@sunnycharacter 2 жыл бұрын
@@paigetomkinson1137 no problem!
@MichaelJFox-gy6me
@MichaelJFox-gy6me 2 жыл бұрын
this title makes me happy
@TeamFish15
@TeamFish15 2 жыл бұрын
LiveStream that bad boy here on YT!
@basicle9594
@basicle9594 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@marykayhaywood7534
@marykayhaywood7534 2 жыл бұрын
You could have like lazers shooting around in the room during the Bach to the Drawing Board. So, the lights change and pulse to the music, beside your drawing screen in columnar shapes. So the room is dark, except for the screen you are drawing on, and the lazers beaming around. Ok, you’re welcome.
@po7356
@po7356 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@wrightohn3
@wrightohn3 2 жыл бұрын
Your are the king of your world . . . that's not a lie you tell yourself. It is the truth.
@marinisboutique5900
@marinisboutique5900 2 жыл бұрын
Really love your work❣️
@Splattedable
@Splattedable 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could come to one of those performances it sounds like exactly the kind of thing I'd love. I've actually done the same thing in reverse a few times. We gathered a bunch of musicians and improvised based on a painting one of us had done. Not sure what the audience thought but they didn't boo.
@donata_joseph
@donata_joseph 2 жыл бұрын
Peter you are amazing 🤩!!! I love your style 😀
@MELODYMUNRO
@MELODYMUNRO 2 жыл бұрын
How to win friends and influence people: When I was a teen I decided to join a youth group to try and make some friends. We were going up to a concert that was a 2 hour drive away. We all hopped into the minivan to head off. It was then that I smelled dog pooh. So I said out loud "I think someone has trod in pooh" So we all got off and begun checking our shoes. To my horror it was me that had trod in the pooh. To make it worse, my shoe had smeared it into the carpet of the van and we had no way to clean it. And so the whole way there and back all we could smell was dog pooh. 4 hours of pooh smell... and it was winter so opening windows was not really an option. Suffice it to say that was my last time with the youth group.
@paigetomkinson1137
@paigetomkinson1137 2 жыл бұрын
OH! You poor thing! I'm sorry that happened to you.
@oberonsci3
@oberonsci3 2 жыл бұрын
It is perfectly ok to hype yourself up! Rap artists do it daily, so why can't other artists? Definitely happy to see you're collaborating on a cool project. I'd pay to see that! Let us know the venue next time. You certainly have friends and supporters in Greensboro!
@oberonsci3
@oberonsci3 2 жыл бұрын
@Some Goy Apparently, you are not listening to the right ones!
@cosmiclettuce
@cosmiclettuce 2 жыл бұрын
better to try than to not try at all!!! Come on -- give it a chance! At least a few more public performances. You won't know for sure until the 3rd or 4th one.
@mathhits
@mathhits 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I haven’t thought about a Winamp visualiser in a hot while but that feels like it was a weirdly large part of my life somehow..
@amoloch
@amoloch 2 жыл бұрын
for years, i avoid clickbait titles, i see them and oif they dont really tell me about the video i dont click, as i dont know what ill watch at all. but with you, its always drawing and talking, so i dont think you actually clickbaited that hard.
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