Yielding the Rib and More on Fear

Pat resumes his conversation on fear and then covers two important exercises for making a round, supple horse that is tuned into the rider's body. Thank you for watching. Head on over to our website: www.thedisciplinedride.com . Please Subscribe to our channel and don't forget to hit the Like button. Stay tuned!

[@liamrooney5133]

Pat and Deb, these videos are incredibly helpful.

[@MaxMax-vu5dw]

Thank you. I just got my first horse and y’all have been teaching so much. I’ve literally been binge watching your videos when I’m not busy.

[@martyhatchard7271]

Dang nabbit mr. Pat I'm 57yrs semi retired. Built my 500 cow ranch from scratch in northern canada. Only dream I never got was to do it with a horse. Just bought a fancy cow horse and arrived in arizona to learn how to cowboy off a horse. You are everything I could have hoped for. Thks for doing what you do. You are gunna give me a head start before I get back home

[@user-qr8ki8ue4i]

How'd it go with that horse?

[@kengamble8595]

Yeah, it takes work, and work, and work, and then some MORE work ! 😊 Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

[@mustaangirl]

Every time I watch you ride this horse you bring more of his beauty out. Also, I appreciate your comments on fear. Thank you.

[@bhagmeister]

Thanks as always, Pat. Clear and to the point.

[@RisingSun0203]

I wished we would have met 30 years ago. I have so much to learn.

[@josiekendall]

I hit play and you said it was for the gal in Spokane and I swear it was made for me! ( I'm from the area too lol) Thank you for your tips! I always leave your videos smiling and feeling like I actually learned something.

[@jenniferlehman326]

I ride English, and I've always had longer reins than what all my instructors after my first instructor, thought was incorrect. I never did, and I still ride with long reins even after 50 + years!! Stay Safe Everyone!! 💖 💖 From Ontario, Canada, Jenn. 💖 💖 🇨🇦 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟

[@PatnDebPuckett]

Remember there is a time for riding on a loose rein and a time for gathering your horse up into collection.

[@garyklutts5268]

As always, I have learned something more and appreciate how well you explain by words and actions. Many Thanks from Oklahoma

[@payntpot7623]

Haaa, I feel like I have gone back 40 years to my pony club days. Thanks for the lesson in memory!!

[@valeriehudson7276]

the image of the banana was really good~thank you

[@mrlozano]

"When you turn, you don't turn like this....unless you're gonna go to Sturgis"....LOL love it!

[@eldenbegay7219]

Happy New Year!! I would like to say hello. Hello partner I enjoy your video you put on, I grew up on the Navajo Reservation. I learn a lot on how to start a horse the very harsh native way almost like the Mexican dancing horses. To Change I am learning from people like tom dorrance, ray hunt and many others. That really make for my turn around to take your time and communicate with the horse. It is very easy to make a horse to do what you want but it is much easier to communicate with your body and feel.. Thank you very much for doing what you do. You give a lot important information that other people will not share!! God bless you!! Keep them Coming!!! 👍

[@sarahposey7166]

I teach riding and I share your videos with some. Thanks for all your great thoughts and knowledge.

[@MrDarkoKos]

Thanks for all the great tips Sir. I grew up ranchin in a family who “has grit”. Im the cowboy that ends up in the ER. Your advice on fear is dead honest and helpful. Youve taught me things that i have taught old cowpokes here in NM. I was going to post a video of my horse a few techniques you taught, but I dont want to take credit for your methods. If youd like, i can send em by you first

[@Inca1122]

This is SO very helpful for a newer rider as myself! Thank you

[@lewerim]

I love when Pat gets tickled. Even if it's over some Dinks. :)

[@colleenclem7337]

Thank you for all your help that you and your wife do.

[@liamrooney5133]

Great information in a clear, succinct, and understandable way. Very helpful. Thanks!

[@stephenqueen6211]

One of the hardest things to learn is that when your horse stumbles, not to pull back on the reins. Before I get blasted about horses stumbling, I admit that occasionally I even stumble.

[@chryslertechnician3439]

Stephen Queen so true all horses stumble

[@edwarnock4534]

Lol! I knew a young man who thought he had to reprimand a horse that stumbled. I recall asking him if when he stubbed his toe and tripped, did he do it on purpose? (As if a horse would do this on purpose!) My point is if you want a calm horse ride calmly even when your mount is not calm. I think we have all seen this done by others, perhaps even done so in our early experience. I knew "trainers" who practiced and taught many of these same things, Pat has mentioned.

[@scottprice2967]

Great job Pat once again really like the grade horses that are probably the best ranch horses out there very few of us ride these Wade saddles there’s something to be said about that keep rocking it brother Love that kelpie dog

[@TightwadTodd]

Im right there with you,on the bending em to the knee thing..I never saw any old Hackmore men i was around ever do that..Like you said,,they only asked for the eye..

[@hillbillylivestock4162]

Thank you!

[@bobbettepierce5756]

Great

[@suzanneyorkville]

thank you for making things clear and simple.

[@PetPrepRadioShow]

Love this Pat & Deb! Thank you so much! NE Ohio here!

[@kimnenninger7226]

Thank you for sharing.

[@mikethomas4224]

Good Job!

[@canoetomah7781]

Thanks and Happy New Year From Maine.

[@lukedaly5696]

Many thanks from Queensland Australia always a pleasure watching you Mate

[@jonathanberrong8522]

Thank you for this very helpful video. Northeast Alabama

[@drkpg1]

Very instructive video. With kind regards from France.

[@lisajignoffo9442]

Love this.. yes! Go back to basic! This is gold!! Thank you from Northern Illinois

[@shirleycooper2048]

Again, great video!!! Love ur detailed explanations. May sound simple but sooo important. Even for experienced riders

[@chelackie]

That laugh.. Ha, yes, indeed. You're a funny man. Wise and funny. Thanks . R in Spain

[@jamesyoung3556]

I really enjoy your video's. Wish that I had half of your skill with a rope. My wife and I look forward to watching your videos. We own a cattle company in central Virginia.

[@vernonhasenkamp5726]

Going over archives..always good

[@silky2204]

Thanks for the info. Never did know what to do ex ept move seat.

[@lyndonzookhorsemanship8638]

Great video 👍. It seems like the circle is a big step in training that often gets skipped.

[@timothysantero8681]

I am 60 yes old I have been riding since I could walk 🚶‍♂️ back n a day there weren't no horse I could or would not ride 🤔 well I got In a terrible motorcycle wreck and broke 15 bones and almost died My power side my right shoulder is most hurt still!! Any how Pat and Deb u all are the bomb 💣 😉 Any how I now have PSTD BAD FROM WRECK ITS AS IF I AM STARTING ALL OVER !! I TRADED my YOUNGER HORSE 🐎 FOR AN OLDER HORSE THINKING THAT WOULD HELP!!!???? I AM BESIDE MY SELF !! FOR ONE IT HAD NOT HELPED AND SHE MEANING MY PAINT MARE BELLA WAS IN BAD SHAPE its taken me all this time I.E. TO GET HER CLOSE TO SOUND AND SHE IS 21 AND DON'T KNOW NADA!. ANY HOW I JUST FOUND U ALL I AM A DIED IN THE WOOL NORTHERN CALIFORNIA COW GIRL I ADORE U ALL 😁🐴🐎 ANY THOUGHTS AT ALL??? HELP PLEASE ITS AS IF I NEED TO LEARN EVERYTHING ALL OVER AGAIN 🙏 ❤!!!!!!!! My NAME IS LAUREL THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH...

[@brianmidkiff3145]

It would be nice to get Pats thoughts on what is the best spurs or type of spurs to use in training horses on rib turning. Thanks Brian in Virginia

[@epona9166]

Pat has a video called Halters and Spurs and Saddles that a speaks to your question.

[@silky2204]

Thank you for stating the English reins are too short. I discoveted tjat as a new rider. I went and got big long reins and let my TWH has her head. I do use the outside rein and insude leg on my OTTB and TWH. IT works.

[@johnmcfadden9732]

He didn't say the English single rein are too short, he said the single roper rein, patterned after the English rein is too short... I've got both and my roper rein has got to be 12 to 18" shorter than my english rein, so I can train my green horses with the english rein with lots of it sitting behind my hand whereas the roper rein is all used up just getting back toward the horn... not long enough for training

[@silky2204]

I like the banana bend.

[@lisafoster4468]

Always practice what to do in an emergency before you get there.

[@janboogaerts1616]

With the point made of most closed reins being too short to ride 2-handed, is that why I have not seen a mecate with slobber leathers on a snaffle in any of your videos, 'cuz that would explain a lot.

[@costarsrat]

Appreciate the info. Do you have a video with more "Self Carriage" information?

[@epona9166]

Very helpful! Could you pls elaborate on the turning leg and the impulsion leg? A previous commenter asked whether you were doing constant pressure or multiple bumps, and you said multiple bumps. Was that for both legs? And are both legs bumping the horse in the same place? If yes to both, then I guess the horse sorts it out based on whichever rein is shortest and what direction you're facing?

[@PatnDebPuckett]

The inside leg hangs straight down from the hip. If the horse begins to fall in, that leg bumps. The outside leg is for impulsion and it is further back. If the horse is going at the rate I want, that leg is not active. If the horse begins to slow down and I didn’t ask for it, that leg bumps. My legs are never just pressing. I don’t keep bumping if my horse is doing what I want. My rein and my body position from my eyes on down dictate the direction. On a bridle horse, there is no cheating the reins. The horse is picked up in collection and then listens to the rider’s body. I only cheat the reins to help an older horse to understand to listen to my body. Hope this helps.

[@williecosgrove]

Nice 1 , just saw an add on utube about dog food, which brings me to my next question . Any news on Larry ?

[@Tradingmikekersting]

Thank you very much Pat. I come from Germany and my wife an i try to ride our two quarter horses with the old vaquero riding-style. We love your work and your explainings! Do you have tipps to ride in a jog or lope, onehanded, and learn the horse nice and smooth shouldercontrolls and flying leadchanges? Best wishes to you and Deb from germany. Regards Mike

[@PatnDebPuckett]

I think there was another person with a similar question. The tip is that you have to do your homework at the slower gaits in collection (and ultimately self carriage). When your horse understands how to yield his forehand and hindquarters separately, the canter departures and lead changes come naturally. In our style of riding, that involves teaching your horse to respond to your body. The only purpose of the reins is to pick the horse up into collection. Then you school him to move away from pressure - the pressure of your seat and legs and the pressure of your weight. For example, when asking him to yield his forehand, you must displace your weight slightly to the hindquarters to free up the forehand. When asking him to yield his hindquarters, you must displace your weight slightly to the forehand. Always offer your horse the opportunity to respond to your seatbones first, then your upper calf, then your heel and spur. One more tip, don’t look down at your horse’s head. Look where you are going. The reason is your horse can literally feel where you are looking and can become attuned to follow your gaze. If you sit up straight on a hard chair, turn your head to the left and right and feel how that affects your seatbones and subtle shifting of your weight. Your horse can feel that. So if you never look where you’re going and are always hunched over looking at your horse’s head, you’re taking away those signals that your horse relies on for direction. That’s all I can think of. Thank you for the good questions...

[@Tradingmikekersting]

@@PatnDebPuckett Thanks al lot for your answer and god bless you. Best wishes from Germany, Kassel. Mike

[@aileen694]

@@PatnDebPuckett Deb, that was an excellent, complete lesson - in just a couple of paragraphs. Thank you both so much !

[@sarahposey7166]

Lol, I ride with my whole body, seat, kegs, breath, posture, but first two are intention and energy

[@zonk0412]

When you are pushing the rib over or are asking for impulsion, do you press your foot into the horse and hold the pressure until he yields to it, or do you give multiple bumps until he yields?

[@PatnDebPuckett]

Multiple bumps.

[@timothysantero8681]

By the way my NAME IS LAUREL THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH....

[@silky2204]

I watch dressage videos for the circle. I do that.

[@flyingoneranch]

H

[@silky2204]

Hit the horse on the butt?

[@barbgunness6598]

Sturgis???????🤣

[@TheReevessss]

He's way too big for that small horse. Hope just for model purposes. Why you need spurs? He has them here.

[@sarahposey7166]

Not all english riders hang on the mouths! I ride English and Western.

[@jeliarra]

Or. . . we could stop abusing horses with bits and learn to ride without pain compliance. Can teach a horse which way to go with a light pressure with the leg. No disrespect or hate in my comment; after having the need of partials (dentures) I know how sensitive the mouth is, the slightest, tiniest bump is painful and or to say the least irritating! Imagine a large metal, rubber etc in ones mouth. I know I KNOW, so many are going to disagree, say horses mouths are different, all I ask is to consider bitless.

[@PatnDebPuckett]

Since you’re being polite, I’m going to respond to your comment. First, riding bitless with “light leg pressure” has zero possibility of collection and self carriage which allows the horse to lift his back, carry a rider efficiently, and do the kind of work that we need him to do. I’m sure it works fine if you’re riding for pleasure in the woods...that is until something happens and you need to stop a frightened horse. Second, and perhaps more important to a discussion on this subject, is your assumption that a bit causes pain. When used correctly with a correct foundation, it does not cause pain. How many people do you know who wear dentures? A bridge? That’s how accustomed and comfortable a horse is with a bit in his mouth. The bit should hang effortlessly in the his mouth. When the rider needs to do some little job like stop, turn, back up, chase a cow, the rider picks up on the reins which have a certain weight to them so the horse feels the lift...it’s called a pre-signal. The next thing the horse feels is the curb strap putting pressure on the back of his jaw...mind you I said curb “strap” not curb “chain”. So again, no pain. Now stay with me. Keep an open mind just like you asked of me. The rider lifts the reins. The horse shifts his weight to the hindquarters, lifts his back up to meet the rider’s seatbones, extends his neck up and out, and tucks his nose in...basically he’s saying “What do you need?” To which the rider answers, WITH HIS EYES, SEAT, AND LEGS, “I need you to go this way” or “I need you to stop” (Not by pulling back but by sitting down and exhaling) or “I need you to back up”, “sidepass”, “chase this cow”...whatever the job at hand is. Once that job is done, the rider exhales, lets the energy out of his body, and releases the reins. The horse exhales, rolls the cricket, and is just fine. I know this from experience. I have an old bridle horse that seeks out the bit when I bridle her. Knowing her as I do, I don’t believe she would seek out something that causes her any discomfort much less pain. Once when Pat was doing a demonstration and was showing some students her bit, she walked forward and put her mouth on the bit without being asked. Now, can people do harm and cause pain to horses with a bit? Absolutely. But instead of throwing out the bit, we choose to teach people how to use them correctly. That is all I have to say on this subject. Thank you for being respectful.

[@jeliarra]

@@PatnDebPuckett Thank you. Politely I must disagree for even if a few horses don't feel pain, unfortunately most humans cause pain with a bit. FTR I have not ridden nor even been around a horse in over 3 decades and I too was taught to ride with a bit, I understand weight, pressure, release and the "feel" between rider and horse (it's like riding a bike and gaining that balance that can never be broken). I barrel raced, captured wild horses with the Cowboys (not much help being a 10 year old) and yes I wear partials and the *@&#^ HURT despite the "prefect" fit. I sense a respect for the horses in the videos which is why I was polite; I know you all must know appearing my senior/s, there are too many nasty people in this world that abuse animals, don't respect nor understand how they are hurting animals due to misinformation, old information etc?

[@epona9166]

@@jeliarra I would defer to Pat on the bit thing; I'm just jumping in because you said you were a barrel racer. We all have our sensitivities and biases. I find barrel racing painful to watch, because of how hard the horses get yanked on, and how hard it appears to be on their legs (muscles, tendons, etc). Yes I know, barrel racers all say their horses love it, but I highly doubt that. So I think barrel racing is an abomination and you think bits are. But neither of us really knows what the horse thinks.

[@jeliarra]

@@epona9166 If you know I, 40+ years ago barrel raced with my horse, you'd know I weighed about 60 lbs, raced my horse on my own two feet and was never in any rodeo. When on his back barrel racing I rode majority of the time bareback. Ol' Pokie indeed enjoyed knocking over those barrels, it was my job to keep them standing. There was no pulling on his face because one hand had to have the horn to stay on his back, the other hand and leg was keeping the barrels standing. That's barrel racing WITH ones horse. The "barrel racing" today is cruel. FTR: hundreds of horses were on / off that ranch, none of the other horses had any interest in playing barrels and we didn't make them.

[@aileen694]

@@PatnDebPuckett Beautifully said, Deb. Thanks.