Ymir Did NOT Have Stockholm Syndrome

[@FatToDaCat]

No formal education in psychology, but Ymir and Fritz relationship never came off as love lol. And it still doesn't come off as Love after the end of the Manga. "Love" wasn't even a thought in my head until literally the last chapter. I'm sure many of us share that experience. I kinda forgot about how it felt when we first saw the "she was in love with King Fritz..." panel

[@BROWNSMAGIC]

Right I guess it’s supposed to be a TwISt but the only way to pull off a twist is if you can comb back through the manga and find evidence for it. Twists increase the rewatch value because then you go back to watch all the little clues and it’s good payoff. However all we get is a little girl watching a couple kiss NO other form of lead up to “it was love”

[@mst3kharris]

@@BROWNSMAGIC I read a quote once that said, “There’s a big difference between suspending my disbelief and hanging it by the neck until it’s dead.” I thought that was a pretty vivid way of putting it.

[@FatToDaCat]

@@BROWNSMAGIC exactly. That's why the "you're not a slave, and you're not a God. You're a person/girl/human" (forgot the exact quote) panel made so much sense. Add in the fact that that's the first time we see Ymirs eyes and any raw emotion from her and we can tell that Erens word activated something within her. If anything that was the opposite of love and more like "he's right, fuck this Royal Fritz bullshit", then she was seemingly freed. And the list goes on

[@jadendaslayeryt7066]

@@BROWNSMAGIC think of slavery in America. Some slaves didn’t want to leave their masters. Think about it in that context and it kinda make sense. Plus I don’t think she loved king fritz. She just wanted to be seen in a good light by him. She was traumatized by him

[@knie1172]

That panel feel like a lie more than anything

[@marcanthony0519]

I've been reading up on Stockholm syndrome ever since ch.139 came out, and I'm still perplexed how anyone can make such horrible comparison between Ymir and Fritz. Stockholm syndrome, for starters, is not a certified physiological disorder and has little scientific backing. It's merely a blanket term to define why some captives may empathize and possibly love their captors. It's largely perpetuated by the FBI and the U.S. film industry. The closest evidence I could find was the Standford Prison experiment, which makes the ultimate leap in stating that since captives follow orders so obediently, they must empathize with their captors. At best, it could be considered a myth, created by famous kidnappings and robberies. Despite the history of Stockholm syndrome, Ymir exhibits none of the characteristics of someone in that situation. Fritz provides no safety for Ymir, quite the opposite in fact, as he sentences her to death after setting the pigs free. Ymir also has the means to escape, provide for herself, and protect her own life with the power of the Founder. She is never once comforted by Fritz and never expresses any romantic interest in him. In fact, they never even touch each other. Even in death, Fritz doesn't lay a hand on her. Her death should be evidence enough against Stockholm syndrome, as she allows herself to die and finally be free. Ymir is a mess of a character that was ruined by ch.139. She is one of the mistakes that Isayama can't ever fix and one that Ending defenders can't ever explain. It wasn't Stockholm syndrome, it wasn't determinism, it was bad writing. End of story.

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

Exactly anyone who claims she has Stockholm syndrome clearly don't know what that actually is

[@SnuSnuDungeon]

The only reason people jumped on the Stockholm Syndrome narrative is because it's the only thing that fits the asinine plot twist at the end. It's just vague enough to serve the purpose of the plot when they need it to

[@beerussama8128]

EXACTLY!

[@Sn_da_1st]

Ngl I hate 139 but I thought she had Stockholm syndrome

[@beerussama8128]

@@Sn_da_1st- she doesn’t

[@taseaturn]

Ymir never love Fritz. Never. Some us interpret that it was Eren who misunderstood her (Isayama literally made him stupid AF by using the 愛 kanji that means the highest form of love), so the Mikasa-Ymir parallel can be shoved down to us to make Mikasa relevant to the plot. In Kimi Ga Fusawashii song, Ymir got two choices : erase her existence or being reborn. And with the speculation of AOE, Ymir gonna choose to be reborn after Rumbling (aka the Ragnarok). But in the manga, she choose to erase her existence. Isayama totally messed up the ending in order to reach that conclusion for Ymir.

[@historiareiss8750]

yeah at the end of the song kimi ga fusawashi, the sound of a baby crying. signifies that ymir wants to be born as the first child to get freedom, the first child to get the love of mother (historia) and father (eren) .

[@muditgarg9039]

Ishyama what a writter you are Girls in AOT Mikasa: Love with the guy who verbally abused, called her a Slave, even after killing him she cannot move on and overcome her obsession with him, and decides to start a new family and still visits his grave and dies wearing a 6-7 decades old scarf. Historia : Love with her childhood bully who threw rocks at her on and was definately not happy in that realtionship. She ended up just like her parents. Like her mother she is forced to bear the child the child of the man she did'nt love but had no choice.Like her father she used her child as a means of saving her skin Rod Reiss used her as a means of taking the founder from Eren she used her child to save herself from inheriting the BT from Zeke. Annie: love with guy who revealed her identity to the scouts whic resulted her in getting crystallized in the first place, He showed no feeling for her throughout S2-3 and used her as a means of manipulating Bertholth twice. He only visits her after consuming him. Is the one of the major reason she never got to be with her father. It's basically a prisoner following in love with jailor( SS i guess) Ymir: love with the guy who killed her family, burned her village, made a slave of her raped her into bearing children, abused her abilities to commit genocide against humanities outside the walls. After she sacrifices her life, she asks his daughter to cannibilize her corpse.

[@kazikek2674]

I noticed that too, I just don't know if his point is 'Girls are really dumb about who they love, aren't they?" Or "Girls shouldn't invest themselves in love cause that's slavery, get the guy to be the heavily invested one instead".

[@unknownname8591]

Some girls in real life are like that too. Boyfriend hits them, etc... She feels she is the problem. You hit her boyfriend... You are the problem.

[@theswagman1263]

@@unknownname8591 saying "some girls are like that irl" isn't a good excuse for isayama writing the majority of the major female characters ending up as in love with their abusers. incel shit

[@MarkusNabokov]

@@unknownname8591 Ymir DIDN'T "love" Fritz. If anything, she was conditioned to remain loyal to him, despite his mistreatment of her. Her body acted on its' own, or rather her instincts caused her to "defend" him. She never harbored "love" for a monster like him, child or not.

[@bronmill33]

I remember getting into an argument about how stupid it was toexcuse Isayama’s lazy and problematic writing as “stockholm syndrome” and toxic love/relationship dynamics which further perpetuates harmful misconceptions about abuse and abuser/victim relationships and power dynamics.

[@BROWNSMAGIC]

Literally. I cannot fathom how people can watch this shit and be like aye if he said it’s love it’s love when we aren’t shown an ounce of tenderness not even manipulation on his part just straight up bro u are a work mule and Ymir is like okay... how does that translate to oh yes all this time Ymir must have been in love. This character is broken down to the point of mental servitude there is no such concept of love in the mind of this character

[@FosteringMotivation]

She lived a relatively normal village life until it was conquered by King Fritz. She should be familiar with the concept of freedom. So many questions on this “love” topic alone. She was so tired of the abuse that she lost the will to live, leaving behind her 3 daughters, yet she “loved” King Fritz? Why didn’t she stay with him until the end of time? So many inconsistencies.

[@odd_chirithy]

You don't even have to know much about Stockholm Syndrome to know that it wasn't Stockholm Syndrome. In all the interactions with Ymir and Fritz, we never see one where she even seems to take a liking to him. She always looks sad and miserable. Never once does Fritz even show any care or concern for her. It's not a twist if there's no clues or build up.

[@Philthorn]

You know it's bad, when even people with zero knowledge about stockholm syndrome know that this is not stockholm syndrome. The hostage falls in love with the captor but in this case he doesn't do anything good in return

[@Xman-0124]

Based. Honestly you could dissect how all the relationships past 123 Don’t make any sense and are forced for plot convenience or (shitty) fan service.

[@chocolatephantasms]

You are a psychology student?! I’m a psychology grad student! The propaganda tweets that’s been spreading around and conditioning anime onlys pissed me off too. They try to justify a syndrome (that is not even recognized in the DSM-V) for others to like the ending. I thought at first she has dependent personality disorder but as reread/rewatch she had a choice and she would not have sacrificed herself if she is dependent on him. In conclusion she has a “slave mentality” and she doesn’t know from a young age what freedom really is. It’s her desire to survive that made her comeback to Fritz and serve him. She first transformed into a titan of course Fritz’s men either will kill her or let her live so she chose to live and serve him forever.

[@santiago4444]

I'm gonna give my views in this, and personally I didn't like the ending so its not like I'm actually defending it, but still, the first time i read that chapter i always saw it as Stockholm syndrome. Why did she sacrifice herself for Fritz? How Fritz´s men are going to kill her being a fucking titan? like, she is 15 meters tall and we are talking about 2000 years ago. Humanity is afraid of titans as fuck nowadays, do you think they could do something against a titan in those years? it is known that ymir was the reason that eldia sort of "won" to marley... so it makes no sense that they can just kill a titan. So how would you answer to these? I mean, i am just curious, not judging or anything

[@chocolatephantasms]

@@santiago4444 if it’s stockholm syndrome when did Fritz showed that he “cared” for her for her to develop a bond or attachment or even love to him? I only said that her desire to survive is what drives her to go back to him. Cause yeah she first transformed into a titan of course Fritz’s men will be first afraid of her but where will she go? She doesn’t know how to fight back she will just simply run away again and again and Fritz’s men will hunt her cause she’s not truly free and be a threat to Eldians cause she’s a titan so for her to survive she went back to Fritz and serve him cause at least she lives and be useful but she’s not free. Of course she sacrificed herself to Fritz cause she’s a slave, it’s ingrained in her to protect him. She could regenerate but there she realized that she had enough. She lost her will to live, to survive. She wants to be free but she wasn’t again cause she just moved to Paths-a land that is free of death. Another interpretation is you can also go back to the myth of Krista= Ymir is Krista she is trying to be a girl that’s wanted to be loved by everyone. She’s trying to please everybody. She wanted to be loved but she didn’t love Fritz. That’s why I hate that she loved Fritz reveal cause it doesn’t make sense. Attached is possible but it’s not a romantic bond as the manga revealed it to be.

[@lazywonderer4669]

I don't think anyone on earth could kill her at the time. she could have freed her people and killed the king, she could have ruled all of earth and make herself queen or empress, starts a new civilisation and the whole world would fall under her power and follow her lead as she was literally unbeatable at that point and no army could defeat her at the time where the only weapons were swords, spears and arrows. In fact it's because of her powers in the first place that the eldian empire came to be and dominated the world. she was the only titan with all the power of the nine in her at once, and we have seen that even if your head get blown off in your human form the founding titan have the abilities to reattach it. she could have been a goddess, so the only reason she went back being a slave is because of her slave mindset and psychological shackles.

[@mikethe2nd890]

I have never read a more disgusting chapter than 139. Every fucking panel every word of dialog. There was literally not a single thing that's good about that chapter. I can't fucking erase it from my head, it haunts me in my sleep ever since it came out..

[@gensischosen251]

How Levi seeing his friends, i think thats only great thing about whole chapter

[@meawiyaothman7872]

You’re spitting habibi

[@keytra6291]

@@gensischosen251 And even that can be ruined once you start thinking about it…

[@beerussama8128]

@@keytra6291- yeah cuz the people that caused it like Annie get no consequences

[@keytra6291]

@@beerussama8128 And Paradis was bombed, thus invalidating all the sacrifices the scouts made :/ Why tf were you saluting, Levi?

[@LovesMJ4ever]

Ymir being "in love" with King Fritz has to be one of the worst things ever written. The only "winners" in this fandom is the EreMikasa shippers (and even that's canonically a dead ship)

[@mst3kharris]

Even if EreMikasa is a dead ship, you have to admit it’s still way ahead of the others. (I’m sorry.)

[@LovesMJ4ever]

@@mst3kharris ba dum tis! 😂😂😂

[@kazikek2674]

As someone who early into the story was a very lenient Eremika shipper, watching how stagnant Mikasa was and what was happening with her, from healthy relationship perspective, a little decapitation indeed allowed her to get ahead in terms of getting her life together. ... What I'm saying is this is a resolution to their relationship I can support... ... It's just way too messy for me to fully enjoy when we go to other aspects of the ending though.

[@Lumigle]

I think Isayama (or Kodansha) thought that this would be a plot twist, but it's a non sense xD

[@onlinehandle2]

Fans excusing it as "Stockholm Syndrome" has always been a massive cop out. They just want to label it something so that they don't have to think about it any deeper. Press them about Ymir's problematic character writing and they will shrug their shoulders and say "sToCKholm sYNdroMe".

[@SuperXrayDoc]

SHE'S 12!?!?!? ZAMN 😍

[@JA-vu8my]

Agreed 100%. Honestly, your rants just hit the spot!! It was a bit disappointing that the most powerful and most mysterious character in the whole story, turned out to be such a badly written pathetic character. She could have easily killed off that unbearable king in the most gruesome and painful way in front of all of his people with her massive titan and became Queen with a suiter of her own choosing. Or better, make him her slave. Literally her wielding such an enormous power in front of people who clearly lived in medieval or pre-medieval era, would have instantly without any questions made her a Goddess in their eyes; but no, she chose to remain a pathetic lowly slave with no thoughts of her own and to live her life abused and degraded. Easily the worst character in my opinion.

[@akaza.3597]

If ymir loved his abuser why she was crying and full of rage when eren talk to her about freedom stuff she shoudve acted like oh no I'm fine 😍

[@kazikek2674]

Ymir's character ended up being built on so many contradictions and more or less enforced "take a wild guess what Ymir's goals and thoughts actually are". It feels like there were several concepts of how she was supposed to play out and they sorta fused in the end then was waved away with 'She wants to be freed from love' Eren infodump. In a lot of ways, Ymir's character would have potential to be immensely unlikeable regardless of which option you lean towards, but by mixing it all so messily we more or less ended up with a straight-up bad character.

[@lazywonderer4669]

- Yimir turns out being in love. - Mikasa turns out the one yimir was waiting for. - Eren's plan turns out that he wants to stop at 80% genocide, and expect that the rest 20% of the world to simply hold hands and make peace with paradis despite not making any sense since most eldians were supporting the rumbling and did nothing to stop it, and afterwards the yeagerists became the rulers of paradis. These three points is what made the ending for me as badly written as an ending can get.

[@Lumigle]

I think the same, but there are more things that are bad: - the subplot with Connie and his mom is a time waste - the pie scene is ridiculous - the save the world panel - the return of the titans of the past and no one of the alliance die against thousands of (aparently) inteligent titans,why the fuck Kruguer would help the alliance? - Armin hitting Eren because he hurt Mikasa but thanking the genocide. And more things that I left. I love snk but this ending is so bad, man...

[@lazywonderer4669]

@@Lumigle yeah I agree it was a big mess of an ending with all of these things that you listed made no sense, especialy the return of the past titans, that literay made no sense. It was as if isayama stoped caring about making sense and decided to just wrap up the story and move on with his life.

[@Lumigle]

@@lazywonderer4669 I think he wanted to make an epic and amazing ending full of action, but he forgot that had to make sense xD

[@kazikek2674]

1 - Simply doesn't work within the current framework. That whole situation would've had to been different for people to really buy it unless they strongly handwave it with Ymir having the uber-slave morality. 2 - Mikasa and her conclusion in my opinion work better if she's not a part of the plan, but a purposeful wrench/wild card of the plan. Like, Ymir allowing this one bloodline of people to live with a unique power and be free of other Founding Titans' manipulations *just* to see if that affects things, and giving them a power-related or not penchant for over-reliance just because she was genuinely curious if someone can break out of such a mentality. If Mikasa's choice was always part of the plan, the MAIN part of the plan, it weakens the resolution, in my opinion. 3 - I did a long message about this under another video, so I'll just re-state : I kind of like 80% on a theme level but I think it was executed badly, and would be better off if that resolution was more of a 'If I have to kill my friends I prefer this resolution' choice by Eren, or a genuine LOSS as a result of allowing his friends freedom, rather than a completely lacking setup 'plan all along'.

[@Lumigle]

@@kazikek2674 I have a doubt about Mikasa. His father is an Ackerman and his mother an asian. The Ackermans are eldians too? And we know the Ackermans have a sense of danger but his dad just gets killed by a simple stab, it was a surprise but for example, Mikasa sensed the explosion in the Darius Zackley office before it really happened.

[@potatodadave]

It's so fucked up that Aot can be resumed in a loli torturing the world for hundreds of years to later destroy it so she can see necro fanfiction of herself and her crush. The only thing more gross than the Ymir x Shitz thing is the fandom spreading misinformation of Stockholm Syndrome, sex isn't a bond, relationship or whatsoever

[@kazikek2674]

Honestly though, it kind of makes me curious - Mikasa : Overdependent toxic love - Ymir : Whatever this is. - Historia : A bit more comolex but apparently babies ever after with a former bully after needing her toxic pal FreckledYmir and Eren to remind her to... Be a bit more free and s bit more herself. - Every single woman that seems to be close to or crushing on Levi dies Does... Does Isayama think something specific about love from a woman's perspective? Like, does he think it basically enslaves women or something? Is the 'Love as a form of slavery' narrative only really hitting hsrd on the female characters a coincidence? Most of the relations where the male character in the couple is the highly dedicated one end either a little short because of the conflict or actually and up fairly long term and happy.

[@FosteringMotivation]

How is she cool with all the Titan shifters? ESPECIALLY Eren? Going off of the character we’ve watched develop through the entire series. It’s hard to believe Eren would be cool with the person who basically orchestrated the sequence of events that made his life so miserable. Because of Ymir, Eren lost his mother, his father, friends, and his entire race was subjected to being herded from the world like cattle by her Titans, only to soon face genocide in the end. She caused his suffering.

[@zinoedafioghor7588]

One thing I'm confused about is the fact that as a Titan shifter, couldn't Ymir heal up her tongue??

[@LegendaryBattalion]

I will never read anything Iseyama creates again.

[@LegendaryBattalion]

@@Spantzcatdog I've got a new fan. :D

[@metroidgus]

honestly she looked disgusted by the whole thing, the guy comes burns the village she's proceeds to kill those that cant be taken in as slaves and then cuts her tongue out, she deff released those pigs out of spite and her yearning for freedom, no way in hell she did it to get his attention

[@youdontneedtoknow7548]

Sweet the rants are back!

[@funnybunny9313]

Browns, idk about others but I'm okay with any kind of video editing style even if it's a watermarked stock image. :D as long as I get to hear your rant.

[@BROWNSMAGIC]

Thank you for the feedback !

[@bander-Coolb]

Same with Historia she didn't love this random farmer who threw rocks on her as far as I know in the flashback he didn't exist if he did what she felt wasn't love remember when she smiled when her mom threw her that's the same as that and she has developed beyond that how does she love him then how.

[@mana-uv7cz]

Stockholm Syndrome has never been tested. It was one incident in which it happened in Stockholm with hostages. Therefore it is anecdotal data, it cannot be used as a legitimate Theory to say anything about human behavior. Isayama should have been more careful about writing love into Ymirs story. Many children do find themselves in situations with adults who take advantage of them. And to paint a picture of that situation into your story and call it love makes me so sick to my stomach. now the public slaps the term Stockholm on it without even knowing what that means. It would be nice for people to forget that word and to acknowledge that attack on Titan sucks because it ignorantly says one of the characters is in love with her pedophilic rapist. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

[@bander-Coolb]

People say she chose to die cuz he called her slave lol this isn't the first time he called her slave though he probably does it 50 times a day and can we talk about how the anime changed the angle of that spear to hit the heart hopefully they will change this to she died cuz the spear

[@Obbie40]

Ah yes. One of the several revelations of the series that absolutely destroyed it for me. Ymir being in love with the king the entire time is one of the worst twists I've ever seen. And fans trying to justify that it was stockholm syndrome clearly don't know what it even is. Even the most recent anime episode with Ymir made it a point to show how miserable she was.

[@kazikek2674]

All Isayama really needed to do to actually sell this 'Ymir dies saving Fritz' was place one of her daughters on Fritz' lap when the assassination attempt happens. Then she dies because she's mostly drained of will to live (or simply because the spear does hit a critical spot), but upon realizing how her daughters are being treated, resolves to try and create *something* out of this titan curse, but since she has no real concept of what a happy existence is, has no idea where to stop and falls back into the slave role regardless. Or, you know, make Fritz, genuinely or as a manipulation, less of a piece of crap when Ymir gets Titan powers.

[@doublehelixalchemist8678]

Congratulations on getting your degree!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@oerwhat]

whoa didn't know you had contacts with isayama! Unreal you must be the only one on social media!

[@mst3kharris]

Ymir’s expression is precisely the face I make when I think about trying to date. I keep wanting to write an essay exploring the setup and execution of AOT to sketch out for myself whether Isayama wrote himself into a corner or he just went bonkers after the timeskip or what. Because I remember thinking, after we found out about the world outside of Paradis, that resolving the Titan question had just become infinitely more complicated.

[@darthceasar3690]

this was before me finish video but there was a post analysis ysmir "love" on r/ANRime(i think) where they said her love is parallel to chirsta(fake historia) of wanting to be love. it was a bit long and they put it better than me. but evidence is -chirsta trying to "help" daz and dying a marty as point out by ymir(fake) -ymir take spear for king despite she could have easily stop it and she look at king (panel after her being hit is focus on king) and after he act indiffrent that when she chose to die. -and also fake Ymir when she try to act the part of real ymir as she thought it would help other people so what does all this have to do with ending? or mikasa? ̶F̶u̶c̶k̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶w̶h̶y̶ only ymir know

[@neloangelo7297]

why would they even animate this shit when they are gonna retcon it anyway at the end lol! oh right! they will stop at 131 and the retcon will be in the movie.

[@eriqeashwaq692]

That's how I see aot charecters right now after 139 mikasa is m/s, eren from chad to simp/m, ymir is m , historia and so on ...., which it is disgusting .

[@mindflex947]

I wouldn't look too deep into it, Yams perception on love is out of pocket

[@Sam-sv4yy]

Even if it can be called the stockholm syndrome, it does not justify a very lazy plot. Where do these defenders have their minds?

[@unknownname8591]

Except for the topic of love, I completely agree with you when you say Ymir loving King Fritz was simply stupid.

[@akaza.3597]

This fandom will make objective bad thing to why its good for their own sake If she really loved king fritz that much that she was making statue and was helping in such mass cruelty and killings for 2000 years and Only be satisfied in the end to a necrofillia kiss like 🤢🤮that makes her the most disgusting anime manga character of all time and they are trying to make a sense out of it they are disgusting as well like king fritz🤡

[@danielmilev848]

She just crazy bro

[@rob2540]

EREN IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WANTS 2 SAVE YMIR THE ALLIANCE ARE A BUNCH OF NOOBIES.

[@niravsavla1470]

I think ymir took that spear on purpose. Just so she could die. Moments before she dies she gets a flashback of herself desparately trying to survive maybe she pitied herself. One thing I noticed is that until eren held her she had no eyes just lines. What does this mean - absolutely anything. No theory can explain why she slaved herself for 2000 years. I think Stockholm syndrome atleast gives us a digestible explaination eventhough it SEEMS incorrect. Who knows what isayama was thinking. The whole story or eren's motives or 95% of all animes can be summarised in one line - 'Protect what you love'. It's so common that weaboos don't even see it consiously. At this point it seems like an attempt to brainwash the audience which doesn't involve indecent methods. Although there is nothing wrong with message. If you've read this far thankyou for reading my weird rambling.

[@nemesis5791]

Let's start with an observation. The Eren we see in that infamous chapter is an idiot. Who himself admits he doesn't have the slightest idea of what the fuck is going on. So his words about whatever simply aren't reliable. I perfectly agree with everything you said and at most I could accept that after all the trauma she went through her mind got so twisted that she developed an extreme form of masochism as a coping mechanism and that she never run away because she had nowhere to go and didn't know anything better. That's all.

[@lermadaniel]

No one thinks that this is a depiction of a real relationship. Perhaps her “love” is supposed to be a twisted form of the Ben Franklin effect.

[@BROWNSMAGIC]

Go on Twitter a handful of ppl do think this way

[@lermadaniel]

@@BROWNSMAGIC Well, they’re wrong.

[@gensischosen251]

Isayama single handly ruin alot of his good written female characters in one chapter, Ymir, Mikasa,Historia, etc gabi, sasga and hanji at least wasnt ruined

[@chestercheetoe2397]

Freckled Ymir was also saved from ruin

[@iamjustaweirdo7364]

How was Gabi ruined by the end? She completed her arc and the brainwashing was undone. She went on to just live a normal life with Falco.

[@chestercheetoe2397]

@@iamjustaweirdo7364 They said Gabi, Sasha, and Hange WEREN'T ruined

[@iamjustaweirdo7364]

@@chestercheetoe2397 oh my bad sorry

[@chestercheetoe2397]

@@iamjustaweirdo7364 Nah you're good dude 👍🏽

[@davidbrown1492]

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