Yodo Also Got A Buff In Update 12.5

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[@BestShifty]

The thing has the worst turning circle out of all the IJN ships, Yamato and Shikishima both turn tighter than this. Changing the rudder shift time was about as usefull as giving a blind man better shades ...

[@erasedkarma]

Isn’t they Yodo part of the light cruiser line? How tf is it’s turning circle so bad?

[@strawberry-parfait3922]

Its even worse considering that unlike the previous ships in the tech tree line , this is a full torpedo boat with its guns only serving as secondary weapons, you basicly play it like a Kitakami. Which means you will need to turn around alot much more often then usual and will suffer from the horrible turning circle synergy much more.

[@swordmonkey6635]

To be fair, Yamato in real life was a very, very nimble ship considering her hull length and beam. She had the same tactical turning circle as an Iowa class BB even though she out displaced the Iowa by 20k tons. The hull form and rudders of the Yamato class were very advanced for her time.

[@charleslynch340]

It doesn't need a HP buff, it needs a very slight shell velocity buff and improved turning circle/rudder shift time to mitigate the terrible firing arcs. Shell travel time should be more in line with hindenburg or goliath. Turning circle should be ~75-125m shorter and rudder shift time 1-1.5 seconds shorter

[@henriqmarques_]

But shell travel time of the Goliath is horrible

[@flounder2760]

That's correct.. and yodo is worse.

[@calhounli9656]

​@@henriqmarques_ My friend you haven't seen yodo then😂

[@solidtoto]

Doesn't matter if the buff the rudder, the turning circle still sucks so you take ages to turn and can't dodge easily. The ballistics are too bad too. Also it should have the same deck armor as Atago, that would certainly help.

[@evolutionari]

True, even the T8 Atago performs better. Except the torps.

[@izzyram4814]

the extra reduced turning enabled him to wiggle his back to take shots and reposition so your keeping broadside to a minimum. I use the same concept when i play the Puerto Rico. You lose conceal, but you can angle/dodge a ton and make your life so much easier to line up a full broadside salvo and go back to neutral position.

[@dzello]

17:22 Hey that's the game you had with us! Our Malta not finishing you off was so tilting. But yeah, our matchmaking that entire day was weird...

[@evolutionari]

I don't think Yodo will change, unless some drastic changes arrive.

[@shonix123]

That is 10 or 9 sec reload...

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

Just like Zao, that poor thing was powercreeped to hell.

[@evolutionari]

@@CesarinPillinGaming At least Zao's been around forever, Yodo's brand new XD Poor dude was born powercrept

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

@@evolutionari And I'm still wondering why they would buff just the turn rate. They could have improved the torps as well, since it seems to be of the same style as Jinan.

[@shonix123]

Its ovbious that wargaming hates japan.

[@genobreaker6665]

I've always done well with Yodo. I use torps as the main weapon. Play it like a Shimmy that spins.

[@user-by4nz8xp4p]

Or a Shima with actual guns. LoL

[@kingsmen9243]

If you use torps as the main weapon, do you often open fire with your main abttery or remain undetected most of the times during battle? And do you run a completely full torpedo build on your Yodo or a bit of a mix?

[@pyronuke4768]

I went for Yodo over Zao, I have about thirty-five games in it now, and what I've found is that if you approach it with the mindset of a destroyer, especially in early game, it works a lot better. Yodo is an ambush pradator: using the torpedoes to cut off choke points and the guns to finish off destroyers and light cruisers who get too eager. Only in the in the late game is when you wanna switch to your main battery as your primary damage dealer to punish low hp ships with high alpha strikes and fire chances. (I usually don't take IFHE Yodo because I don't think it makes that much of a difference, you're better off lighting fires on BB and CA then going for the alpha strike on them anyway). As for the low shell velocity, there's not much I can say except get better at leading. You can go for distracted targets at range, but Yodo's main battery works a lot better at mid to close ranges. Now my playstyle is less concerned about rolling high damage numbers and more about winning matches. Also call me a masochist, but I actually prefer ships that are more difficult to play over the easy and consistent ones; it makes the dopamine rushes feel more earned I guess.

[@Stephen__White]

Personally I'd take 155 Mogami over ether Zao or Yodo(I have Zao and refuse to go past Omono in the light line unless the T8/9/10 get some fairly massive buffs), better MM and basically on par in terms of damage output. Honestly Mogami being a thing is my argument against grinding for Yodo. Yodo being only a minor improvement over Mogami and the grind to get to Yodo being horrible, makes Mogami the much more tempting ship.

[@Apparently.santos]

As expected, good and high quality video... I would like to see an updated video on your mods (specially which ones u are using)... I just cant find all of them and that is why i would like to see it. Or u just write a comment ... Ty see u next time.

[@shihaozhang9608]

Full AA build Yodo when

[@naraharigs]

The music you get in port is very different to what I get! How do I get the same music as you?

[@capthappy8884]

Yodo is fine. Ima light cruiser main, so I'm very used to many of the aspects that non cruiser players don't like. That said, I can't think of a situation where she would be a top 3 pick of mine. But I seem to enjoy the challenges of making a "bad ship" work well. I guess a degree of masochism is a base requirement to play this game!😉 o7

[@aetius9]

Yodo's biggest problem isn't the rudder shift. It's the range. Because it's range is so much higher than the rest of the line, it's VERY difficult to shoot from cover - the dd the next cap point over will detect you. I'd love an option to drop it down to 15 or 16km. Also, CVs have learned to avoid the Yodo because of it's nasty AA, so it's not surprising that the Malta didn't attack you.

[@Loaderiser]

Might still need another buff or two, but at least it's slightly less of a demonstration of what Petro with absolutely no armour would look like. I wouldn't mind seeing more Yodo videos either, perhaps with some different builds.

[@youngp3805]

I feel the whole IJN light cruiser line is designed for spamming torps on open-water to halt enemies' pushing. More like a destroyer style. The ships are just too lengthy to maneuver, even for IJN heavy cruises, I enjoy playing as destroyers' bodyguard to risk myself in a very dangerous position to target majorly on enemy destroyers. As main in cruisers, I feel those guns (of IJN light cruisers) are quite limited and you can support your destroyers in a limited way. (I am running the captain skills invested in torps for the top three rows)

[@matsab7930]

If this video is as sarcastic as I feel it is, then hats off to your dry humour. I particularly enjoyed the repeated references to the rudder shift actually making a difference.

[@rouguest5530]

that what when the gk citadeled lepanto killed me

[@IncarnateParanormal]

been grinding out this line since my 2 1/2 year hiatus from the game. got the takahashi and on the final push for the yodo, questioning the tier after the past few videos on the yodo. might jump to the battleships, either push for the yamato or jump over to the USA tier and push for the vermont........decisions decisions

[@steves8236]

So what crosshairs was PQ using ?

[@Sombody123]

I use this as a torpedo carousel that spams torps mostly, with decent success.

[@slimtim1969]

Turning circle bigger than Yamato

[@thomasantonsen]

Are you on PC, seems like your interface is different from mine. AND I don`t have those mods on my Yodo

[@pkx_phant0m456]

dude in Yodo i stay getting4v4s with Super Carriers and Subs...happens so often i refuse to play it now. but Yodo is decent. I cant stand how IJN Ships armor makes 0 sense for the size they are. like Yoshino and Azuma and now the "Light" Cruisers.

[@ImpendingJoker]

The Yodo, is a kite cruiser. Angle away and keep running. You have to play it like the Seattle but I like it quite a bit.

[@david_3248]

im sorry but what the hell are those torps doing when you launch them

[@SininStyle]

I feel like the boat was designed to be in close among islands.... then they forgot to give it armor.

[@CarefulAtheist]

Buff definitely did not contribute to the result. But... I have been told so many times by clan mates and CC's on KZbin that it's not worth halving your fire chance by taking IFHE. Let me be real with you. If you CAN use IFHE, you are most probably a cruiser that need to play around islands for survival. And not many maps allow you to camp permanently behind islands and BURN a target down. Fire damage can be largely healed back, so your damage numbers might be high, but the battle impact could be low. I ALWAYS take IFHE...screw fire chance. That pen damage on superstructures cannot be healed back in the same way. And sometimes that is the difference between a ship clutching another kill before going down, or sinking while you and your teammate move on to another target. I checked my T8 Cleveland numbers...pre and post-taking IFHE. Without IFHE average damage was 85k, 1.5 kills. Swithed to IFHE. Average damage is almost unchanged at 84k, but 2.4 kills per battle. Your result here was thanks to IFHE...no doubt. When you play a ship with floaty shells and no pen its difficult to set another fire once they put one out. The experience becomes tedious and you associate the ship with mediocrity. But when you see between 4 and 8k salvos when your aim is true, even though there's no fires, the ship takes on a different guise.

[@EvoraGT430]

Compelling arguments. I find this a very difficult call, but this is good reasoning.

[@comrademod4503]

I agree with everything you said, but I don't think he had IFHE equipped in this battle.

[@MAJmufin]

man, I got the yodo a while ago. what a disapointment. cant pen anything. long reload for low damage. explodes upon sighting if you're not carefull. mega turnin circle.

[@flounder2760]

In regards to shell velocity for certain calibers there needs to be a bottom line... that no matter how shit guns could have been they can't lower the bar...and that's why I am a proponent of Goliath style arcs for yodo.

[@mr.eggplant866]

I ran over dolphin and blew up.

[@swordmonkey6635]

The "light" designation has nothing to do with the hull size or armor of the ships. It's designated by the size of the guns and guns alone.

[@matthewcasady6276]

I predict this is not going to be the last buff that this ship is going to get. At least not if War Gaming ever wants anyone to play the Yodo.

[@thegeneral123]

Not nearly enough, whole line is cursed.

[@happycatto9555]

Yodo just doesnt work as a light cruiser. Zao is more light cruiser than Yodo, its smaller, better handling, more dpm. I also still don't get why WG went with a gun that had no naval use in the IJN while we had the 155mm gun already

[@pyronuke4768]

To be honest, the Japanese CL line in general is much more suited to being ambush predators than HE spammers.

[@brandonlevy8680]

I'd like to point out. Not only did that, Kurfurst nail him, but he did it with his front turrets only.... That was some serious RNG. Like winning the lottery kind of RNG level.

[@ASMR.GentleMan]

Just tried this cruiser line its one of my last lines I didnt go for and jeah... Yodo truly is special and I would say its one of the worst tier 10 cruisers if not THE worst. It really has nothing to go for it other than AA.

[@gizmoZG]

Music is too loud in the video, harder to hear you compared to prior videos.

[@hiddentruth1982]

so they buffed the yoda huh? lets see if they over buffed it.

[@hschwartz]

17:03 PQ 69% win rate in randoms. Nice.

[@mr.eggplant866]

L o l you believe that

[@jasonroberts9794]

I would rather play Zao than Yodo, it will be relegated to the back of the port

[@thomasbernecky2078]

Just dodge?

[@warshipsworldGG]

not enough

[@eirinym]

Terrible guns, hm, what should we buff? 🤔 Oh I know, the rudder! 🙃

[@zane660]

how brrrrrrroken is Yodo?

[@bmvhusky]

How this ship made it out of testing in even it's current state, is a literal crime. How the F did the testers not come to the conclusion it was a complete joke. It's only purpose is to be a damage pinata for superships and most other Tier 10 ships. They try to bait you on the torps, but their slow and easily detectable. Do not build into them. You rarely will hit anything with them. Guns are a total joke at DPM and fire chance. Your only chance at meaningful games is to kite the entire time and pray you don't get dev struck. You rarely see anyone playing this ship since a few weeks after it's release and that's all that needs to be said.

[@old_guard2431]

Too much of a penalty for the fabulous torpedoes. Or they would be fabulous if you could land them with any kind of consistency.

[@sardaukerlegion]

I don't get the point of this line.

[@SofaKingA]

12.8km concealment! Wtf?! WG has more buffing to do!

[@watdeneuk]

What's next, 20hp 'buff's'? These are quite underwhelming buffs.

[@wackadakka3134]

and i thought Mainz was bad

[@trancybrat98]

it's so dumb that this ship has more HP than Gouden Leeuw

[@Telashar]

The real question is, why would you pick yodo over... i dont know... nevsky i.e. Super lights have bonkers dmg potential (like worcester, smolensk). But this thing has neither utility, nor dpm, nor tankiness. There is no real point to yodo. (and i still cant forgive weegee for making agano-class a low tier ship)

[@existentialvoid]

It’s still far far too squishy with no real identity except as an eco pinyata for Russian cruisers.

[@liirha]

The fighter consumable is such a joke. You popped it every time the Malta came after you and they shot down one plane. Too much of Yodo is balanced around the Torpedoes which are not effective in a cruiser like this. Also, the rudder shift buff doesn't fix the awful turning circle it has. Some Battleships turn better than this thing does.

[@4j_2905]

1st

[@ponaftes9214]

yodo is designed for shima mains that wanted to play cruiser and suck even more. i wish they had friendly fire on when releasing this ship , this line is the worst by far even shitier than panamerican cls and panasian ones, even worst than italian bbs

[@bulldog2000]

Wow and guess what......yodo is still garbage I could almost swear the Austin 127s are better than these 150s. I almost forgot the ap damage and pen could probably be beat by alot of dds too.

[@SebastianSMG88]

nice, an dumb buff no ones wanted, still the worse tier 10 ever made it

[@Wretchedness1609]

5:40 unnecesary comment dude. carries are in the game, same as subs.. you gotta accept them

[@alphax4785]

It was just a statement of fact, the CV's attack forced the Marceau to turn into his attack rather than evading it.

[@Wretchedness1609]

@@alphax4785 well isnt that the way carriers are made to work? Create crossfires

[@stonii8385]

​@@Wretchedness1609and how does that make the statement any less true?

[@Wretchedness1609]

@@stonii8385 it's not about it being true or not, is just that he sounds pissed off and he can't have peace

[@stonii8385]

@@Wretchedness1609 sounded more like he could relate and felt kinda bad for the Marceau to me. you can't say it was a unnecessary comment, the dude is being a commentator for a match, commentators leave comments on how matches play out, so what happened to the Marceau was a necessary comment as it tells people that don't understand the game as well, exactly how the DD died.