The odds are NEVER in our favor in this role pack! | Gmod TTT

[@retepsemaj96]

15:28 Anyone else hear Duncan nearly give himself away: "It's weird being an imp... It's weird being a detective and have everyone be suspicious of you."

[@TyphlosionGirl]

That Freudian slip lmao

[@jacobnorris8256]

It helps that it sounded a lot like he was saying "an" and corrected his grammar. Though it could be that's actually what he was doing.

[@Temprael]

"Us innocents" tier moment

[@rocktalon2]

Just like when Zylus, listing out his items at 18:16 said "Radar, Disguiser"

[@Chr2NaN]

@@rocktalon2 Well played ;)

[@handsomecaveman]

I'm glad that Ben is still in these videos consistently, despite the fact that he's no longer doing the prep behind the scenes. Because I love Ben and he's always nice to have around.

[@weezact7]

Ben is absolutely one of the core creators.

[@ethan-loves]

110%

[@Blitzkrieger17]

i think its even better, because now even he has no idea wtf is going on lol...

[@yellow242]

rest in piss RT good riddance

[@leaderofthenewbencrusades746]

Ben is great

[@nazamroth8427]

Ben's Vindicator theme was way too epic for his performance... thrice...

[@woobgamer5210]

THE GLADIATOR!

[@Become-Eggplant]

It has the same tune as "Forever Traitor". I miss tom.

[@drakhoon]

I feel like any time some one respawns as the vindicator his performance needs to trigger

[@falloversideways]

I feel like the second time was pretty epic performance

[@meatmanofyork]

"I think duncan is impersonator" followed by nilesy thinking for a second and getting stabbed in the back sent me

[@HighSlayerRalton]

"He's gotta be. Right, Nilesy?"

[@dextersummers8381]

straight out of that Saw scene where (incredibly old saw spoilers, also not really from the audiences perspective) Mark Hoffman is revealed to be the bad guy.

[@AquaticWaffels]

The shotgun blast was so loud one of the best moments

[@Chameleonred5]

Where?

[@Yasha277]

Where did it send you?

[@ElseeKay]

5:05 DUNCAN you had ONE CHANCE to say "BENDICATOR" and you MESSED IT UP

[@PanSpaceman]

Given Ben kept on vindicating I'd argue everyone had way more than one chance.

[@JACKplusBLANK]

Boba guessing roles made me realize most of them must have no fucking clue what the icons are even though we the audience see them every video and forget a bar doesnt exist on their POV

[@belzedk]

If only there was a search option xD

[@ABoringTool]

At least ONE of them must watch their own videos?

[@jazzmazz9214]

I think most probably know...just Boba I'd say. This is literally never been an issue for anyone else with the Guesser.

[@aBendorff]

Yeah that's just Boba. She was the impersonator so she knew Zylus was not her traitor buddy before being guessed and she still guessed him as evil...

[@geoffreymullen3527]

@@aBendorff According to her logo talk she actually guessed he was the vindicator.

[@greenman2166]

I love how Zylus just started listing traitor items at 8:16 and nobody noticed

[@centurionquincy3899]

Nobody realized that Zylus (the possible detective) asked Nilesy (NOT a detective) if he was a deputy. That immediately told me they were both traitors and Zylus saw the wrong symbol above catpants’s head

[@brandongalvan6603]

I love the no detectives pack with the Guesser because the Yogscast completely forget that some people just like to lie.

[@otterpuente]

At this point, everyone is lying, whether with malice or just to be silly. Just trust Rythian

[@HunterGunther9]

I think they should add a sound for when the vindicator returns, it should just play Ben's "Imma Vindicatooooor!" line

[@cloudybrains]

1:12 Lewis' explanation of this pack is so funny, because he makes it sound so much more complicated than it is, which is simply "each person has a 50% chance of being of being bad, and 50% of being good". The 25% chances that they are both good or both bad are just a byproduct of this, as is the 50% chance that there is one of each.

[@aliensinnoh1]

It’s pretty funny that the end result is that the two possible detectives have a higher chance of being bad than the random player.

[@kane2742]

When Ben said 37% (1:46), I was reminded of an exchange in the movie Kiss Kiss Bang Bang between main characters Perry (Val Kilmer) and Harry (Robert Downey, Jr.) regarding Russian roulette-type odds (one bullet, six chambers): Harry: There was like an eight percent chance. Wasn't it just eight? Perry: Eight percent? Eight? Who taught you math‽ (The real chance is 1/6 = 16.666...%, more than double what Harry thought.)

[@TrinityCodex]

VINDICATORRR

[@Fireeld1]

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's Ben The Vindicator!

[@vegladex]

Oh no, they're actually right about the chances of getting a Traitor being really good if you kill both the detectives! Because those Impersonators aren't *in addition* to the existing Traitors, there's a 25% chance you just instantly win the round!! And a 50% chance of evening the odds from 2 against 5 to 1 against 4! The only downside is that the Innocents then lose their buy menu, but is that really so bad? Thank heavens the Yogs barely ever play to the meta! 😂

[@Roan_Harris]

Technically, there's a 75% at least one of them is evil, as well as a 75% at least one of them is good.

[@vegladex]

@@Roan_Harris but the 75% chance of one of them being evil is a lot more impactful than the 75% chance of one of them being good!

[@volta2652]

See but I’m a genetic freak and I’m not normal, and once you add Kurt Angle to the mix-

[@PinkieBen]

If they were really trying to play the game to win (instead of just having fun) the optimal play would be anyone who spawns as a deputy kills the other detective? right away, wouldn't it?

[@Roan_Harris]

@@PinkieBen, I think the nuances of the social aspect keep that from being the optimal play. Let's say your 66% chance of killing a traitor (impersonator) works out. Even if you do kill them, you might not get a chance to check because either an innocent or a traitor pretending to be a concerned innocent will aim to kill you. If you get unlucky, and kill the other deputy (33% chance), you are basically broadcasting that you have a 75% chance of being evil, without factoring in the social aspect of killing a good guy. With a 66% chance of improving your team's odds vs a 33% chance of *severely* ruining your team's odds, it is more of a gamble that even a meta-gamer might not want to take.

[@theokapi6318]

Ben is calling "Moonball", as is appropriate per Achievement Hunter rules. I appreciate this immensely.

[@sam23696]

Yeah that took me by surprise. Not the place I expected such a callback

[@callumwright7459]

The 'No Detective Pack' should be re-named 'The Defective Pack'

[@MrSpannners]

Oh yeah, nice one

[@Satherian]

I love how it's just flat 50-50 odds that a detective is bad but they use *horrible* maths to actually confuse themselves

[@arcadia9589]

Never tell Boba the odds! You'll hurt her.

[@ImminDragon]

So, always tell Boba the odds. It get's you the upper hand. Even if the odds are very, very simple.

[@PanSpaceman]

It's fantastic chaos, a role pack that makes two clear non-jester targets that're incredibly RDM-able, yet wanting to kill them makes you seem RDM-able. Same for wanting to protect them though. Overall it just highlights for me that sometimes I can't possible guess who the traitor(s) is when the editors cheekily hide it, the Yogs are a shifty bunch. Nice work editors.

[@TheGouldyGould]

Should be called 'The Suspective Pack'

[@seedsmyth]

Everyone upvote this please xD It's too good to fade away in the comments!!

[@Force2reckonVods]

I second this motion

[@user-zh2jk4fn6u]

Oh my god the map is cold seed from combat arms what a blast from the past

[@TheAuscomando]

MY MAN! The nostalgia! 😍

[@DarthRevan42]

Ben's theme song is incredible "VINDICATOR!"

[@Tachii31]

Duncan: "One down!" Lewis: [continues doing Duncan's bidding]

[@tiredidealist]

I'm glad Duncan is back, but I miss Rythian.

[@juancernas485]

Nick write this down, New Role "Bendicator" When Ben dies as the Vindicator he comes back with double health (so he has a chance) but if he does "Bendicate" his death, he explodes.

[@JeroenElsen]

Boba is a comedy genius! 3:30

[@IndigoWhiskey]

Boba out here casually suggesting Mutually Assured Destruction. a madlass if you will.

[@KirinDave]

The odds on this pack are really fun. The thing is, the best strategy by the numbers is to kill both detectives immediately because your odds of not hitting a traitor are only 25%. In fact, you'd just flat out win a quarter of the rounds!

[@Umbrasoul]

Based off Lewis’ idea: randomat called “job fair”. A selection of roles are available to choose from and everyone can select one and become it. There can only be 1 of that role then it gets greyed out. No one else knows what you pick. Alternative idea: role - Jobsworth (pink) This role has you change your role every time you die with a decreasing pool of health. Any role you become does no damage, but instead causes an annoying effect.

[@towerofignis]

picking your own innocent role sounds really fun, if more than a little chaotic. I assume merc is gonna be the go-to, since everyone wants toys to play with.

[@dragonmax2253]

The all players start with an Artillery Cannon could be a randomate called "1812 Overture", and it plays the song (without the cannons because of the player ones)

[@EPIC2X_]

7:29 Yes, somebody finally used the moonball correctly!

[@jamescarroll384]

I'm so glad Ben intervened on the odds discussion. Ben is King

[@chorzan259]

I need a loop of Ben saying I am a Vindicator! in my life.

[@Tyranzor64]

Just once, we need a massive like 40 person all yogs TTT 6 or 7 traitors, a sprinkling of brown roles and like 3 pink roles and just utter chaos.

[@MH-hu5pi]

Yes! An all Yogscast royal rumble

[@JoshaSolomon]

Randomat that gives everyone artillery cannons. Call it Bomba

[@Mixxium]

I love the chaotic energy ben brings to every round, like he genuinely does not care much about winning, and can afford to do some really dumb stuff.

[@matheusGMN]

if you stop to think, this detective role pack is a bertrand's box paradox! If you kill one of the detectives and it's a traitor, there's a 2/3 chance of the other one being a traitor, and the same is true if it's an actual detective

[@wolfmanzo218]

should the vindecator spawn with a weapon? Put it in. Golden gun akimbo? Put it in. Huge buff? Put it in.

[@cboneperlstone9661]

1:43 Prof. Scott Steiner says the numbers don’t lie, and they spell 1715457ε2 (DISASTER) for you

[@travishimebaugh8381]

Hey, they got that Pedguin guy back

[@CoolDude12468]

Honestly, the idea of an Innocent role that allows for a person to pick a role based on their play style doesn’t sound too bad. You could call it the Everyman

[@HighSlayerRalton]

I like that Lewis figured out that Ben wanted him to kill Ben and still, somehow, several minutes later, talked himself into doing it.

[@Envyre_]

what's with the ferocious hunting of the vindicator? they only pose a risk to the person who killed them.

[@Skyscraper125]

The tiny hitbox thing on people would make me **livid**

[@andrewherridge8419]

The first round was like that wrestlemania percentages meme

[@starwinter6845]

I'M A VINDICATOR!!

[@NomadSoul76]

"Protective of the detective" Boba made my day with that line

[@duncanjala]

I feel like Ben being Vindicator is very good. He dies twice as much as anyone else and this way he gets twice the lives!

[@thechoseone456]

They should make it to where every role faction can choose whatever role they want from that faction ie. innocents can choose any innocent role.

[@ham_slam_wich]

Vinde -Ben when Bendicator is right there

[@yeetmanthe2nd529]

I want Ben's "I'm a Vindicator" as a notification sound

[@crocutaqueen1311]

In a roundabout way, i think boba guessing zylus and not announcing it was absolutely genius. Also im glad Duncan is back.

[@tristantx78]

yaaaaah the everyone gets artillery cannons should be named "Cannon to right of them,. Cannon to left of them,. Cannon in front of them. Volleyed and thundered" and made as a randomat chance :D

[@samd2052]

2:50 There's a 50% chance that if they attacked a "detective" they would be bad. Assuming D = Deputy and I = Impersonator, the possible combos are: DD, DI, ID, II. Overall there are 4 instances of Deputy and 4 of Impersonator, meaning at any given time you have a coin flip on whether they're a good or a bad

[@TerraZetzz]

I like the idea of innocents being able to pick their innocent roles. It would add more randomness to the game.

[@PeeWee599]

Even if its 1% you should still try to defend yourself Boba lol

[@tonk3878]

10:20 I can’t believe (I can, easily) Lewis just blindly kills Ben, also Zylus lied.

[@Thromash]

The chaos is beautiful.

[@Imagin8io]

Ben's Vindicator song is top tier

[@LD-bj4xc]

Probably one of my favourite ttt episodes

[@jrbohan2]

It'd be great if Nick secretly added some of these ridiculous ideas but with a really low probability. So 0.01% chance that everyone starts with an artillery cannon, 0.05% chance "oops, all glitches."

[@Doomcraftian]

Lewis took a big ol sip of dumb dumb juice before this recording, and I love it

[@teucer_]

*favour

[@mr.j4696]

This is honestly such a good pack. Forces them to actually think instead of randomly shooting people (though that does still happen 😅).

[@seedsmyth]

Round 1- Two Impersonators Round 2 - One Impersonator & One Deputy Immediately taken out by Boba Round 3 - One Impersonator & One Deputy Round 4 - Two Impersonators Just sayin the pack seems a little weighted xD

[@ryu-chan5031]

Lewis: *shoots and finishes Zylus* Duncan goes to investigate the body and turns out he's telling the truth. Lewis: HE WAS CLEARLY A DEPUTY You can't make this slowness up.

[@honestjoe9417]

Vindicator Ben going to a detective(?) Lewis asking for an item was brilliant and shouldve worked

[@jacobcothran9961]

I think this pack might just be my favorite of the ones shown

[@Techstriker1]

Ahh the moonball. RIP Achievement Hunter. (I think the only TTT thing from them that's come to Yogs vs all the Yogs stuff that used to go there)

[@weezact7]

I was just thinking to myself it's been awhile since I've seen Boba around. Was starting to think she wasn't coming back :( Glad I was wrong!

[@ryucloud4800]

my genuine excitement when i see the notification is tangible. enough to make stuff out of! bring on funny ttt!

[@Twillek1019_]

How’s this for a weapon “banana gun” one hit kill but can only be used once, but you can leave the peel on the floor and whoever steps on it will ragdoll. Now as for a role idea: Monkey, it is a jester role, it has the fore mentioned banana gun, but being a jester role it can’t kill anyone, and every time it crouches it leaves a banana peel. If u want, u can also make it throw poop which will blind the opponent’s. I thought it would be quite funny.

[@Kinathax]

Is this a Combat Arms map? This is VERY familiar and i haven't played that game in over 10 years

[@TheAuscomando]

You're god damn right!

[@winter501st6]

A 3rd of the way in I was like "no f'ing way". Depending on teams it was a fun map or a spawn killing nightmare. I scrolled through so many comments just to find others that have played Combat Arms XD

[@LetsHavePun]

Role idea: The Shoplifter. Neutral role. Once per round, the shoplifter can "steal" an item from either the detective or traitor store. Game will announce that someone has stolen something from the shop (Not sure if it should name the specific person). Goal of the shoplifter is to steal an item and get away with it aka survive to the end of the round.

[@SeverityAsured]

They could make it like a jester that wants to get hit by a buy menu weapon and then gets that weapon and kills whoever used it on them, then have them be a wild card.

[@xRandomSarahx]

Ben's vindicator song 😂

[@projectafterworld2557]

Randomat idea: "Fireworks display". Everyone is given an artillery cannon with a ridiculous amount of ammo and explosion immunity. The 1812 overture plays in the background for the round.

[@IndelacioLetsPlay]

New role for this pack in particular, the mathematician, has to constantly solve equations in order to stay alive bonus points for saying all those out loud and showing their working.

[@jeremyrobinson6514]

So, if the 25 25 50 thing is right, Ben is correct that there's a 75% chance that at least one of them is bad, that said there's a 75% chance of it being a 50% chance either way. From there there's another 50% chance that the second "detective" (assuming one died) is bad.

[@jonathanrees325]

Vindicator? More like BENDICATOR!

[@robertward2655]

I wonder if the order in which people join the session effects the odds of the role they get each round? Ben being vindicator repeatedly reminded me of the past couple of recording sessions where Nilesy was pink roles constantly. OR, each player has special odds to be each role?

[@dwild2565]

10:32 the pure chaos

[@Kuffen90]

If boba was the impersonator, she whould have known if Zylas was a bad one, so he could only have been a good detective since shed known if he was her traitor budy, could have outed dunc and guessed to win

[@RedFragmentation]

These new role packs are a lot of fun, some of them are pretty creative and spice up the gameplay too.

[@Orange0Monkey]

I'm a vindicator 3 times, so funny.

[@talkbirdy2me]

Somehow the trolliest boba play ever.

[@elloydsart]

i fully believed it was ped and not duncan hahahaha Good play duncan

[@soythelubu5389]

3:50 everyone forgets you cant re guess the same role

[@CarterArts]

Lewis kills more innocents as an innocent than any traitor ever kills

[@LucasBuilds]

You know they say that all yogs are created equal, but you look at boba and you look at Ben and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with a detective role, you got a 50/50 chance of them being an impostor. But Boba is a large rodent, and they're not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat them. Then you add Kurt Angle to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the no detectives pack, you got a 37 and a half chance of killing an impostor, but boba, boba got a 75% chance of killing an impostor, because Kurt Angle KNOWS he can't beat her and he's not even gonna try! So Ben, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus boba's 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of shooting an impostor. But then you take Boba's 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, they got 141 2/3 chance of winning at TTT. See Ben, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at shooting a detective.

[@user-iy7bp1bf4z]

The smoke bomb made me think they should have a Batman roll

[@howtolegosforu]

Great rounds guys 😂

[@kyuubiplayer]

good to see pedgiun back in ttt

[@YoungbloodEric]

Wait, I thought of a random at idea. The random at is called “thumbnail” or something and it creates a chaotic event from a past video…. Fast bees, clawless zombies, idk but you get it hopefully😂 the joke is that it creates a funny event to make a thumbnail off of!

[@TheIceCrypt]

Duncan isn’t good at lying. I can’t believe everybody took him at his word. Lewis caught on too late.

[@wisecrack4545]

Boba suggesting a mode where everyone starts with an artillery cannon? So a 'scorched earth' randomat game mode?

[@Pratalax]

"I reckon Duncan is the impersonator" BLAM, **Duncan revealed to the audience to be the impersonator** - i SWEAR this has happened before in TTT with Lewis and Duncan.

[@Zetrocio]

Vindicator needs to take 0 damage from everyone but their target. That would be sweet.

[@abstractspaces8186]

Boba scored a "Florida" on the IQ test.

[@nobodyimportant9443]

This pack really shows how paranoid Lewis is! I wonder how many team kills he got because they were too close to him? does the Yog data sheet have that?