YON DAN belt test at Hnbu Dojo ISKF

Captain Nasr Elsaid passing his 4th degree level black belt test under the ISKF in Philadelphia. 2013.
KATA- SOCHIN

[@aefiallos]

Remember, this is their own karate journey. You don’t know where they started. Whether pass or fail it is commendable that they try to test. The people here so harsh with criticisms should look at their own karate. Any respectable karateka with good level would not waste their time trashing other fellow karateka. We all love the same art, respect each other. OSS

[@bobbyacosta3104]

These men are no spring chickens. Much respect.

[@Kinghercules]

That dojo is BEAUTIFUL!!

[@ACoustaDC]

Yeh... I would love to train there.

[@alainmartin7751]

I must say that I am impressed with the bearded fellow, the other one not not so much

[@tommyheadlocke7818]

alain martin I agree he was shit hot, full of kime

[@Surayahti]

MashAllah

[@Kinghercules]

Wait. Hold up. Where are the 16yr old or 18yr olds testing for their 4th Dan like they do in TKD?

[@isechico]

NOT in SHOTOKAN, the originator of both TKD and TSD

[@ACoustaDC]

Man, the dud with the beard has Indomitable spirit for sure. Love the Dojo. What an amazing space. Who it the instructor?

[@amirresidovic9811]

Bravo Masters , well done .. Oss

[@waynecolburn8849]

Well done ! The older one moves very well for his age. Both did good.

[@SadDane]

I agree. The younger had lousy stances and didn't know to do kiai...

[@israelgicheney3200]

YON DAN? my deepest respects Mr. Beard, the other guy could be awarded 4th kyu (the gray hair must be respected)

[@thecrazyonetwo]

Thank you so much for your response. I know my dad will be moved with your comment.

[@astonrichardson4309]

Well done

[@michaelhubbard4023]

Lets be respectful of this test. It takes a lot of guts, years, thousands of hours and perseverance for this men to get to this point. As a black belt myself, I respect all black belt tests that I see. Much respect goes to all of them.

[@robertweel9714]

Karate is a beautiful waw people to a certain level to be used for self defence and never offence when. We use karate always respect your opponent and respect your karate teacher and you will go go far in the sport of karate

[@rhysbailey2070]

Dear oh dear oh dear.

[@alanwood9822]

I think the dark haired guy could have put a little more into it, a little bit laxed. No disrespect meant im 67 myself and have been practising for 56 years.

[@Dankelheit]

Where's the kumite? You can't pass a belt test without kumite or at least self defense demo

[@nelsondominici8273]

O senhor de barba branca tem kimê esse que aparenta ser mais novo tá muito lento e sem kimê nos movimentos e kata

[@allanrasmussen5789]

hope they are 1kyu today

[@Falcon_76]

😭

[@jorgarndt7525]

no got

[@burntrim]

I think after 5 years as a 3rd dan you should leave and by that very action be awarded 4th dan. And you shouldn't allow anyone to lay a finger on you, whether it be demonstration or whatever. I love karate, I think it's brilliant. But like everything it has its flaws. And one is it's too complicated. I think there's 20 plus katas. Who, in their right mind is going to study 20+ katas? 7 works for me. Which brings me to flaw number 2. It's one size fits all when that doesn't work. What suits one may not, and usually doesn't suit another And flaw 3 is clubs do what they are told and work to a fixed curriculum. And usually charge too much

[@timallbritton7329]

Understand the JKA and ISKF guidelines for ranking are much more stringent than strip mall dojo. I believe they are the most strict of all. There is no universal standard, which is why I have to laugh at 30 year old "masters".

[@user-rg7zy1ef2i]

ну и ученики?!

[@jorgarndt7525]

there is no power and spirit, no energie--it`s look like 3. Kyu

[@jacksontavares53]

Piada

[@petersimmons3978]

The grey haired sandan has spirit, time is his enemy ,the dark haired sandan hasn't , his kicks were gedan and lower,he wouldn't make 3kyu at the JKA ,I think he's read to many books, no focus no Kime ,and above all no fighting spirit!!, the core of shotokan karate.

[@Lifestyle_With_Thomas]

The bearded guy did well but the other guy was horrible, ive seen better from 12 year old yellow belts

[@hansmeier9758]

I saw no black belt test - I saw a gymnastic lesson with karate elements. This is boring. Respect to the two aged guys, I hope they know that this sports Karate without the spirit of a martial art. The fat guy on the right is the best...

[@burntrim]

He looks cool the guy on the right, like he doesn't give a s**t

[@jayoly6273]

Is this reverse age discrimination? These guys really are not that good. For their age? Maybe. But to promote rank based on "pretty good for their age" ? I don't like it. I think most shodans are much better than these guys testing for yodan. Emmmm shouldn;t be like that. Just sayin.

[@michide72]

Yes, I think so, too. Even if greybeards kata isn't bad, it is full of spirit. The other one is shodan level, max.

[@dingo8babym20]

@@michide72 See my response above, sensei

[@bobeberlein1526]

No disrespect....this is a Joke. These two chaps would not last 5 seconds in a Real Street fight for sure. My comments are based on training in Japan twice in the early and mid 70's and on The Door at Night Clubs. In a REAL FIGHT when some Fzzkers want to kick your head in ....there is NO YAME.

[@dingo8babym20]

'No disrespect'?? You've illustrated your ignorance, good job. So older folks need not apply; only young supple, athletic types.Got it. The disabled? Women? None of them will last in a street fight either, Cletus. One of Funakoshi's precepts is character development - something you must have missed. True karate takes people from where they start, not to some frat-boi's idealized, Bruce Lee-ish fantasy, but to a place physically, and spiritually that they've never been. But yeah sure, if you don't possess the physicality of a club bouncer, then piss off,Gramps. no disrespect.

[@DoomGuy-kf8fv]

The bearded guy would prolly be just fine. Other guy I agree. Then again a lot of karate is being watered down in favor of useless point sparring.

[@burntrim]

What would you recommend? They take up Boxing, or Thai Boxing perhaps? Or buy a gun even? Not everybody wants to work on the doors