YOU ARE USING GUIDELINES WRONG

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[@SomeNormalArtist]

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[@VuKohl]

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[@pigeonanimations6118]

I have never seen best buy sponsor a vid before

[@GlitchyFoxGamer]

@@pigeonanimations6118 me neither. its surprising to me

[@Lol-zc1vd]

Bro does post 6 vids a year💀

[@Styxintheriver]

Best buy employee here: We sponsor KZbinrs??

[@_Wyzteria_]

a tip i think is also extremely useful is to study how fashion designers sketch figures. Fashion designers have some of the most fluid and expressive figure drawings because of the way they construct the figure.

[@Insanebehaviordude]

I so agree, I came upon one by accident and it literally blew my mind

[@matthewmcintear3992]

@@Insanebehaviordude please share the link that blew your mind that you stumbled on

[@carlospineda1938]

Tattoo artist I think are also one of the best

[@ConcealedWeaponry]

@@Insanebehaviordude Share link

[@factoringpractice]

yoooo madoka fan?

[@keeysOST]

"Don't skip stages of your art" Me who makes 20 layers of sketches before finally being happy enough for lineart.

[@kit2691]

thats why i dont even do lineart 👲

[@themelancholyofgay3543]

i make new layers after drawing a single line

[@purplex360]

cause same and then I easily do over 20 layers for lineart

[@neeevirus]

that's fine just merge your layers

[@fivetopoint]

that’s why my sketch IS my lineart now like 😭

[@mup8661]

Dude. Don't ever feel like you don't have an idea for a video because "its already been done before." The way you explain things is unique to you and the people who sub, sub because you're the first person to explain it in a way that we can relate and understand. Thank you so much for starting a KZbin channel bro.

[@GyreArts]

Yup agreed especially if it's on this level of quality And tbh especially on this quality I had even lower abilities on animatics yet chose to upload something regardless But yeah his stuff and the way he goes about explaining stuff is literally so clean and concise

[@Jordi_Bordi]

The Vageta jumpscare is wild 💀

[@bigmanluigi4925]

i immediately tried out the steps from the tutorial after watching it and it worked so well that its actually comedic

[@chesspiece4257]

i love when that happens it’s such a weird feeling

[@ae9581]

looool it's Hilarious Clinton when I apply some tips I learnt from a KZbin video and they work. I'm like LOLing so hard right now. HHahahqhqhhahqhq

[@herrflantier3739]

Right?!

[@BVK.]

Are y'all being sarcastic?

[@PJ183]

@@BVK. no seriously 90% of the time we do the tips wrong, it comes out bad, or it doesn't work at all trust me this happens alot for me for some reason

[@ivana2609]

I used to be against guidelines back then, but now man they really do help a lot with making my anatomy looks less weird and janky. I still suck at planning cohesively, but please listen to this guy, guidelines are IMPORTANT Thank you for the video, it's really insightful

[@JotaroKujo-ip5wb]

Im still not drawing with guidelines, I haven't drawn with them for 12 years I tried once and it looked like stephen hawking without the wheelchair.

[@v1nnimo]

@@JotaroKujo-ip5wb same

[@ivana2609]

@@JotaroKujo-ip5wb Well, if that's working fine for you, then it's fine! People have different ways of drawing after all. In my experiece tho, it really helps

[@angelvu]

@@JotaroKujo-ip5wb same

[@batmanrobin3794]

Mannn I learnt the hard way I used to dislike them now I need to learn how to use them

[@danielgrezda3339]

I do think most of the misconceptions of guidelines come from watching professionals draw and trying to copy them. As you get better at art, you don't need as many guidelines, before I used to do all the steps and now I skip the first step and go straight to the general shapes as I have practiced enough to pose and proportion them from the get go without a guideline, but a beginner would need to practice this. Also, while I do guidelines for my normal drawings, I practice drawing ink's with no guidelines or sketches because it builds a understanding of proportions and details faster than doing guidelines for every time you practice. So I would advise if you want to get to a pro level, draw guidelines for your normal drawings but practice doing less to no guidelines as that practice will help you draw guidelines quicker and better and you will eventually get to a pro level.

[@SoulGuitarMetal]

The best thing I did to my art is practice putting as little effort as possible into it. I don't mean work but stamina. Holding the pen very light so you don't get tired and sketch as clean as possible giving more thought to each line. Nowadays I only need a few silhouette strokes or no sketch at all before doing final lineart. I used to take hours to draw a single character. Now I take about 5~15 minutes to get detailed clean linework after practicing it for a year. Drawing gets a lot more fun when you can do it effortlessly.

[@haevm]

omfh thank you for clarifying people drawing guidelines and NOT using them, i see so many artists drawing them so it looks like they know what their doing but not even using them. 😭

[@annoyingtsukasa]

i do that💀

[@HiCringe]

I will probably still ignore guidelines xd

[@everygametactics2235]

Thanks! I am a legally blind artist, and this helped fix things I was missing. Do you have a tutorial on eye placement? I have trouble doing eyes at other angles because my guides are set up wrong.

[@EastGermany-pc2lw]

As someone who never knew how to do eyes, do with this what you want. The eyes go just above halfway down the face. I like to start with the top lid and work my way down the eye shape before doing the pupils and lashes. For angles you can start with perpendicular since the bottom part being angled shows a lot more than the top. Once you’ve drawn the eye, angle the top lids down at the sides. Also the pupil I like to draw sometimes because it’s easy to show the angle something is at with a circle. So hopefully that helps!

[@CHIKUS0]

without somenormalartist's tutorials, i don't believe i would ever be where i am today. having the foundation that he set for me at the very beginning is what made my art what is it today thank you

[@JH-pe3ro]

It is possible to get the water bottle example more precise without a guideline; however, the way to achieve it is essentially to carefully measure(using observational drawing techniques), and see the guideline in your head before anything is on the page. This skill is practicable by doing pen and ink sketches - always from reference - and striving to make every line as clean as possible, with no pencils or layer magic, using the pen just to mark out either a final line, or the smallest possible indications of proportion, but otherwise doing everything by measuring it out with your eyes, holding up the pen to the reference and moving it to the sketchbook, or by holding the sketchbook side-by-side. I've done over 1000 of these ink sketches while doing anatomy studies this year and it made a monstrous improvement at seeing what I'm going to draw before I draw it. The difference in practicing this way is just in the order I do things: if you start by throwing down lines and then measuring to fix mistakes, you're "guessing, then checking". If you carefully measure, then draw the line, you're "checking, then guessing". You still have to check again to see how much you screwed up when you try to measure it first, but the quality of your initial measurement improves a lot after doing it for months on end, so you go faster, and drawing is less frustrating. That said, using guidelines is essential for maximizing the precision of finalized drawings. It becomes more and more necessary to use them as you construct more from imagination, because our eye and muscle memory mostly remembers flat shapes and can't easily adjust for pose and perspective. If you are drawing vague guidelines and not using them well, that's a sign of not really knowing the shapes you're working with, or how the forms work in that perspective. Sometimes all you need is a thumbnail reference to remind you of the shape. The reason why 10:43 looks wrong is not head/body ratio, but torso/hips/legs; there's almost no height indicated for the hips. Shrinking the head suggests a taller character, making short hips more plausible, but makes the shoulders too wide and the arms too thick.

[@mu1_regenerate]

OORRRR have godlike art skills that you can draw anything without guidelines

[@Utrilus]

​@@mu1_regenerate You get there either what JH said or by doing loadz of guidelines till you have way too many memories and experiences of good results. Drawing without guidelines is what you do when you are so good that you do that stuff automatically, can account for the variables in your mind either on a conscious or subconscious level.

[@danielmuratalla5564]

So I can noooowww just eyeball things but I spent years using rulers to draw out guidelines before drawing to get proportions. As someone who prefers more tactile art over digital I was a little off put at first watching this seeing the drag the shape in to place but the more I think about it the more I realize it's the same I did using rulers and right angle rullers. It's a good foundation but after a while you can just eyeball things, takes a ton of practice though.

[@jadenthesuperior]

This video got me thinking: I hate learning and studying is boring, but art is fun but painful to practice. If I HAD to practice, like practicing for a test or some homework, and assignments that would be put to grading, then I would do it more.

[@zehaha]

I watched You Yoshinari the character designer and animation director of Trigger studio draw the main characters of Cyberpunk Edgerunners on youtube yesterday and he used guidelines. I am pretty sure this definitively proves that guidelines are in the "does not make you a bad artist" category.

[@Rctdcttecededtef]

In highly technical aspects of animation, drafting is probably always necessary. Not so much for fine art paintings you might see in galleries but even painters sometimes use guidelines

[@EntG1]

23:49 actually caught me so off guard i zoned out for a couple of minutes

[@tako-sensei6072]

This is so unbeleivably helpful. I've always been confused as to how people go from lines to a picture, but when its like this I get it.

[@cabreshya]

Here’s a true reason for none guidelines users, kanji. Due note that the Japanese and many other symbol relates languages start off with grids when they learn to write. As these people get older and study writing alphabet symbols accurately on that four square box, draw manga and such was just a whole ‘nother alphabet system to them. We need the guidelines because we’re new to the mapping on guidelines method, they don’t because they’ve been mapping since they were 5yrs old.

[@HoltzWorks]

I wonder if that would also translate to people who are good at calligraphy being good at freehanding shapes while drawing. I don't think I can actually check because none of the artists I know (me included) have even halfway decent cursive handwriting.

[@mitchelljao]

As an asian idk about this reason

[@rdtiel]

@@mitchelljao Probably BS. Its like saying people with great penmanship draws good. As far as i know penmanship isn't transferable to drawing.

[@cabreshya]

I feel like y'all are skipping the whole GUIDELINES and MAPPING part of the Convo😅

[@wukong7656]

@@rdtiel yeah they be capping 🧢… mileage, learning/practicing the right way and that good sleep are some of the factors. Just like gym rats those people are art rats

[@lostchron]

Interesting tutorial and good fresh up for those which were familiar with it but didn't know every detail of the process yet! Also, a tip for those who don't want to listen and still want to slap a png import over their character: You can do this on your character if you import a PNG and transform the PNG with a transform tool to fit the wireframe curvature after import. So letting the four corners of the image match within the 3d shape of a certain area.

[@cooldotamen]

Hey SomeNormalArtist! I don't know if you'll see this. I use your Advanced Shading Tutorial for most of my rendering works(textures, hair, skin, etc.) and I've binge watched most of your videos and my art improved a lot thanks to you! Keep doing art content mate! Cheers!

[@sumyguck8094]

Thank you for basically recommending this vid of his, dunno how I missed it, but I followed along recently & it's amazing!!! TwT No one has ever explained something so clearly, I'll definitely be using it again to practise from now on! ^w^

[@unlimitedquickworks7387]

Huge tips, i experienced some of these problems and I can tell you did too, these are stuff mostly not explained in other videos. I can relate to drawing without a plan, and then being overwhelmed by all the things you gotta fix later on, tough I've never painted before making sure everything is right. Thanks for sharing 👍 Ps: i loved how the girl sitting on the chair looks and her design

[@gaildrawings7470]

so thankful that i found this video. i abandoned my recent digital painting (almost finished) because i felt so tired doing it because i have to repaint parts because they are off and it's taking me too long. it's all because i made really rushed sloppy guidelines. i'm drawing on my sketchbook for almost 2 weeks now and not doing digital art because using my drawing tablet feels so heavy for me. will probably pick it up again soon after some organising of workflow and* using guidelines effectively. thanks for your video

[@miimiiandco]

The process of drawing each step of the art process is quite a satisfying activity.

[@_K3PLR]

OKAY JEEZ YOU DONT HAVE TO YELL AT ME!

[@fomod_]

One thing tend to do is combine all the sketches together, using different colors on different layers to differentiate the body, face, hair, arms and clothing and make just a big jumbled mess. I tend to want to go into details immediately and by the time I start the lineart it's pretty much a rough version of the full lineart already

[@DamnedXFate]

This is great! it helps a lot especially with foreshortening. If possible could we have a small video on how you shade leather? her pants look amazing

[@clovest3rz]

Watching art tips while drawing is the best combo ever

[@sunrphan5152]

The Vegeta Came out of nowhere😂

[@miner4ever]

Well, that's pretty helpful, considering how struggle i am these days trying to draw. Thanks man

[@Gnam1600]

I like to use a lot of reference photos and examine the proportions and geomtry of the subjects by tracing shapes over them. Your brain starts to register these forms when you do this. This leads to better shape placement. Im very satisfied with the potential of this practice.

[@LOC-Ness]

As someone who had to struggle to figure out most of these things I'm glad there's a single video to lay them out. Also a tip for those doing more realistic or western art styles, consider implementing the planes of the face into your head guidlines.

[@Soreiya]

I think in my case there are a few reasons why I struggle with drawing characters. The biggest one is an imbalance of skill. I can detail and color a lot better than my ability to draw. So I get very frustrated when I am unable to meet my own expectations. The second is my poor vision. It's impacted my observational skills. So it's a bit harder for me to study from photos and such. Things tend to get kinda skewed since I'm so nearsighted. I'll sketch out guidelines, but my uncertainty will cause them to be very rough and messy. Sometimes I wish that I could pay a tutor to help me improve, but it's difficult to find people who would be willing to adapt to someone with such limitations. So my art has just kinda remained stagnated for years.

[@fantasmaprime2643]

This the first Yuoutuber I've EVER seen get sponsored by Best Buy. It caught me so off guard. I was expecting skillshare lol.

[@littlebighead4482]

I'm sitting here realizing how much I rush through the process of getting my figures together and am shooting myself in the foot by not slowing down and setting up properly, Thank you so much for this, it's so easy to lose sight and forget all this, even the most simple things. I swear, watching this has been like unlocking secret knowledge stored in my brain.

[@Highshinobii]

“They choose to ignore em. Like what was the point of that..” 😂😂😂😂 Had me cracking up.3:58

[@GuretoDaze]

23:49 THIS GOT ME DYING 💀💀

[@lilletille4117]

Thank you so much. I've been struggling a lot with this lately and loosing motivation, but this helped me a lot!

[@Ivyrose4]

“I haven’t drawn the chair yet” The missing feet “am I a joke to you?”

[@thatgamerboy3467]

this man somehow solves all of our problems as a kid: *trying to draw the cap*

[@ProximoK]

Most beginners shouldn’t use guidelines at all. They get too caught up in analysis paralysis and don’t end up making enough mistakes to improve.

[@Dan-qq6hy]

What should we do then?

[@ProximoK]

@@Dan-qq6hy focus more on life drawing and doing shorter more rapid cycles.

[@damianbread2744]

this feels like online class.. but a 100 times more fun, and helpfull

[@MattRBX]

yea i have a problem where i draw the head too big because i always draw the head guidelines and details then afterwards move onto the body without even drawing body guidelines

[@MaeRose26]

wow. just this one video helped me improve my art so much! i'm a self taught artist and even though i took art classes back in school, they never taught us how to use guidelines. i just saw other artists quickly use them so i more or less tried to copy them but ultimately never knew how to really use them. so i did end up ignoring guidelines for a very long time. but i just used guidelines PROPERLY after watching ur video, and it drastically improved my art. thank u so much for this

[@kietori]

AYO 23:50 SECRET VIDEO THUMBNAIL REVEAL 😳😳😳😥😥😥😩😩

[@vince.inthevoid8158]

How are you so bad at explaining things yet your so good at it

[@Felix-xv3wg]

I cannot believe I was incredibly entertained while watching someone draw a water bottle

[@musingsofmessa]

Honestly, you're one of the artists that inspire me to create amazing anime art. 💜 You're an awesome artist, and I can't wait to get to your level of anime art.

[@bigman7856]

I definitely need to get comfortable with taking my time with sketches and building things up. I notice that the works I am most happy with are pieces where I unintentionally follow this process and I by chance didn’t get the urge to go from the early sketches to fine detail. I will often make a sketch and just straight up go to final like art and rendering on the first or second layer and of course I end up giving up because something is off. Either that or I’m spending time cleaning everything up.

[@Mid940]

I massively agree

[@k-sama9963]

I’m not kidding when I say this is the most helpful tutorial I’ve watched, thank you thank you thank you.

[@PINKDIAMOND4000]

Love this tutorial, helped me a lot with simplifying things. I screamed when I saw Aya´s drawing!

[@birotrilogzz2132]

10:38 bro i died when you did this lmao great video and thank you for the tips and lessons.

[@snipsnip8785]

to be entirely fair one was on the spot and the other was time lapsed

[@zombipro739]

"How you see, that water bolt is weird" Also me, if i draw this: that best, what i made in my life!

[@justgeo6889]

an experianced mangaka once said, if ur skilled enough and have the shapes and techniques in your mind you can skip some steps to be faster and accurate, it all comes down to knowledge and practice.

[@dominickjadon]

I haven’t watched the video yet but I think it’s noteworthy that I’ve never seen a Best Buy sponsor before I didn’t even know they sponsored KZbin videos 😂

[@sk3tch776]

Despite having guidelines for the water bottle you've drawn more of the top cap than can be seen in the reference image

[@soola1404]

Lmfao the Vegita jumbscare

[@Kouiuo]

Thank you so much. I might as well start practising guidelines and try to draw a pose from a photo or something like that. I think this is the first video that actually helped me

[@wyrmghost]

I got my I pad at best buy for cheaper and it was super helpful for the furthering of my art journey

[@CutesyNeko]

Hey SNA, Idk if you noticed, but your zipcode is in the BestBuy sponsorship section!

[@painamation2884]

man really said "best buy had the best prices"

[@gyarakushi3672]

this video made me realize I shouldn't be afraid to make multiple sketch layers. I always put everything on the first layer and then no matter my guidelines, the sketch looks super messy and chaotic, so I get confused easily. Thanks a lot for this vid dude!

[@plasmoasis]

having multiple sketches has helped me a lot

[@andysartz]

This video is awesome! It made me rethink some of my drawing habits. I'm going to share it with a friend! We were talking about guidelines the other day and I think she will understand a lot of what I said better when she watches this. Thank you for sharing!

[@jhpuwu4891]

29:20 mad father 🥰

[@ZTRCTGuy]

About the water bottle, it's not neccessarily wrong to have it misaligned, it depends what degree of realism you're going for. Sure the second one looks a lot cleaner and straighter, but the first one has more character. But that's just my opinion.

[@sugoi694]

If I'm going to be honest, I'm somewhat annoyed of people in my school who put guidelines when they're drawing faces but don't even use them, they just put the facial features wherever.

[@Xeronoia]

The lower thigh is the bit above the knee - you meant the calves. Lower arm works for forearm because the entire thing is called the arm, but the entire thing isn't called the thigh but the leg.

[@KipaYumiya]

i may be a little late but i just wanna say, of all i've watched on drawing tutorials, this one somehow not only retained my attention, it was just what i needed to fix my art and also taught me all i needed to do perspective and how to draw objects on my characters way easier than i should be, im saving this video

[@wixon2109]

I had a huge problem with proportions. But now after this tutorial, it's just simple. Don't reinvent the wheel just learn from people that are better than you. Huge thanks to you SomeNormalArtist I made milestone because of you.

[@SlyRocko]

This isn't supposed to be snarky, but thank you for making me realise that this is digital art and therefore I can use shape tools to draw guides. For a long time I avoided using guides bc of how I had to manually draw them. Now, I can at least use shape tools to give a starter on guides especially for my characters!

[@BuckBlaziken]

As a beginning artist who wants to draw nothing but Pokémon and furries, it’s actually really helpful to figure out how to do frames especially for the heads because wow there’s a lot of different head shapes out there

[@sumyguck8094]

This was hella eye-opening, thank you so much!!! :0 I knew about guidlines, but i always mesh the 1st & 2nd steps of roughing out together w/out realising, and my pose & body parts look rly messy & confusing!! I'm going to try this out from now on, I hope i see some good progress!! ^w^

[@remistarlight8485]

This guide is absolutely incredible! Thank you! 💝💖

[@may7777]

cool video, only thing is that its very easy to tell you're reading directly from a script, either learn how to just speak off the top and be yourself or read the script a little more naturally, it is kind of harsh to listen to at times

[@magictriangle6878]

This is pretty helpful. I knew a lot of this, but only really applied it when working with reference(s). Now I'm trying to do imagination drawings in a sketchbook, and was kind of struggling. Think this method will help a lot

[@MellowDarkflower]

For me I draw guidelines always. In fact, majority of my stuff is unfinished drawings that stop at the guidelines because to me, my unfinished stuff looks less jank than the refined/colored stuff. That said, the guidelines is actually the funniest part for me. It allows me to explore the infinite possibility of poses, and sometimes I learn new things on the fly when I pull off a dynamic pose (I suck at utilizing line of action)

[@JohnDoe-mb1uu]

11:09 from a design perspective the hair actually competed with the hair for dominance, so shrinking it made it look surprisingly better.

[@kiwi-toaster4332]

(9:55) "let's take an example of one of my old drawings. You can clearly see the lack of planning" The art: *literally so good quality it could be straight out of a Manga even if the planning is off*

[@manmystery8804]

Thank god I just naturally used my guidelines as intended when i got more experience 😂🙏

[@gigaacademia9313]

23:48 this part made my head click towards my screen and when i saw what the vine boom was there for I JUST SMILED BRO That was so amazing, and whats even funnier is how he didnt wven react to it Also this video was really fun and i draw along with it ans i must say THESE GUIDLINES HELPED ME OUT A LOT GAWSH DANG

[@Sketchowlll]

Thanks! I’m recovering from burnout, and lessons like these revive my art brain. Much appreciated!!

[@steamontheliquid4032]

This is one of the most useful videos that I watched. I'm currently struggling through like the first faze of learning to build your character, capturing the gesture etc. And this really helping me on this topic.

[@Ephemeral2004]

I just wanted to thank you from the bottom and top of my heart, your vids are super helpful and if I somehow get money I’ll definitely do my best to sub to your patreon to show my appreciation

[@basicinfo2675]

23:50 nahhhhhh 💀vegeta

[@annieleonhart464]

23:48 He is trying to make a sassy Vegeta.

[@nefernaly7583]

It depends on how good you are like i personally dont need guidelines at all except for backgrounds and some weird objects but i can draw pretty much any character in any position without using guidelines or references for the pose

[@koishisen]

10:39 naaaaaaaaw man 😭😭

[@harukills]

As a somewhat intermediate artist, yeah we don't draw guidelines for no apparent reason. It's guidelines to help you draw body proportions in angles, well most of it for me. It's okay to not use guidelines, it's not a rule. Sometimes I don't draw guidelines and just want to draw. If you want to draw realistic or somewhat believable bodies and objects, use guidelines!

[@JoseHernandez-wx8nj]

Guy was sponsored by bestbuy but god dam did it work😂

[@croissant2186]

2:21 Where the video starts btw

[@Kay-init-bruv]

I only use guidelines in facial construction, and dont use any for the body. I draw very simplified, and sketch maybe 10 hours a day, because of this I have a really solid grasp of what I want to do without any planning, but if I have a break for a few weeks and then try and come back to drawing, the muscle memory isnt there anymore, and Ill struggle for a while until I get my muscle memory back

[@blunabery8100]

that first water bottle kinda curvy tho 😳😳😳😳

[@guhbruhmaste4557]

Honestly I feel like this is a beginner artist typa thing, where they expect that they can just draw whatever and it will turn out nice. This seems to level off once their technical skills improve. Trust me I've been there, listen to this guy!

[@note5068]

currently playing a losing game of comp valorant and saw this recommended in my recommendation, thx for making that lose match a enjoyable one

[@mahoufoxxo]

My new year's resolution has been to go from noob to decent artist, this is exaaaactly what I was looking for, thank you so much! Subbed.

[@oinkgoespiggy7781]

The craziest part about this vid was how homie got sponsored by best buy

[@RaphaelCGA]

yeah pros do this all the time. This felt like review since I already draw in a similar way. It also helps to have played with 3D software because you can just generate the shapes, angle the camera and then trace or, my preferred method, sketch on a clean page using the 3D view as reference.

[@gabrielaarevalo1566]

Drawing is a very hard journey, and this helped me. Thank you for this vid it will help so many.

[@LozerLudo]

>no guidelines >rushes and only takes like a minute tops >guidelines used >timelapse drawing this really doesn't help your point man

[@axelexiscus8660]

i do the guideline and sketch traditionally sketch over it in 1 layer digitally and not further bother with proper linearting simple problems, smart(?) solutions hell yeah

[@Nekaiii]

i never understood when people did a 2nd guideline on the 1st one until now, Very helpful!