YOU ASKED FOR IT! HERE IT IS! | HPI Savage XL Flux RC Truck Review

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[@DavidSmith-jj5pr]

was into HPI back in very early 00s, maybe even 99? can confirm they were really good at being so fast and powerful they broke a lot 🤣

[@ReadySetRC]

I know you bought this some time ago and not to put any salt in your wounds but it is now selling on HRP for $559.99 on HRP. HPI hasn't done much on this truck since the first release. It's one of those trucks that needs some changes before taking out for that first run. I hope you keep it going and don't shelve it but that $800 price point would give me second thoughts too.

[@geodude3966]

Just went to their website and it's on sale for $765 for me.

[@artificialdopamine6542]

@@geodude3966 490 SOMETHING NOW

[@cwatson42785]

@@artificialdopamine6542 On the hrp site? Where did you find it at that price? Would appreciate the tip

[@artificialdopamine6542]

@@cwatson42785 king kobra hobby has it for 429 right now

[@cwatson42785]

@Artificial Dopamine Thanks for the tip but they are now sold-out on the site. Here's a little tip off if you're still looking for one...My buddy Joe from Omgrc (website) has 2 left at $470 shipped. I'm on the fence about it but might end up getting one. Also have you ordered from that king cobra site before? Not sure how legit it is. It very well could be but just saying. 🍻

[@stevemastbaum]

I had a HPI Savage 21, 15+ years ago. It was a blast had so much fun with it. Think it was the right rear wheel nut would always spin off and the wheel would fall off.

[@RazorRC]

Looks like it had a case of premature ejection? 🤣🤣🤣 In any case, you have the old model there, they have an updated version called the V2.

[@calvinjacobs7908]

Happy 90k subs.

[@JayJacksRC]

I absolutely love how you talked over Im the driving part and could see you in frame bruh I am literally sitting here hollerin’ at the tv talking to you hahaha “hell yes I saw it! That was sick!” Dig it man

[@jblflexyt8142]

Congrats on 100k bro

[@CopperCanyonTerrapins]

Your face at 11:00 says it all! 😂

[@jdorseyjr64]

Mark do what feels good to you. Stop worrying about everyone's else feelings and do what you feel. Just don't stop doing what you love.

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Nice set up

[@dhtrapper7894]

It looks cool but very congested looking though. Congrats on the 90k subs as well! Almost 100k!

[@MarkSantaMaria]

thank you sir! We are going to do a 90k celebration live feed and car give away this week!

[@dhtrapper7894]

@@MarkSantaMaria Your welcome and that’s awesome! Thank you!

[@davem2659]

Thank you so much for not sugar coating it and/or recommending anybody by that piece of junk, Credibility through the roof bud.

[@vicsaggu]

HPI fan boy here. I have been away from the hobby for past 8 years. I owned 21 RC's between 2006 and 2013 and Aarma wasn't even a contender back when I left this hobby. I used to own a 2006 savage x 4.6 and it was as tough as a Rhino . Apart from stripped nylon spur gears , that truck had no other major flaw. Bought a 2010 savage flux which I still own and that thing has never broken anything except bodies because with so much power it would land on its back and just slide on hot asphalt. Now when i am taking interest in the hobby again , its Sad to see HPI lacking behind the competition . I saw their web page and it hardly have anything anymore to compete against Traxxas and Aarma. Heck even Redcat has more attractive line up compared to HPI. I really hope HPI comes back and comes back strong.

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Good evening brother nice video cool truck enjoy the weekend

[@troysrcchannel5659]

Love that shirt. Oh and the content lol.

[@cibolocreekoutfit]

It’s old school. Inspect it, tighten and loctite set screws, wheel nuts and whatever you see. I have one and I went through it before I ran it and had zero problems.

[@layback209fixorsmash3]

Love mine, got it on sale, send it all day long on 4s with no issues. I did upgrade the 17mm nut things to hotracing (that old tech is ok for nitro but not great for electric torque). Fantastic onsale purchase to if you enjoy savages. Most componets are interchangable. Kinda a no-brainer in that regard. You can get a centerdiff to take 3s better, which will save the diffs. Gotta support hpi, im always interested in what they come up with. The wr8 nitro is amazing fun!!!! I need the flux now 😆

[@UNCLEBGA]

I have the Flux HP. The spur gear is mounted to the slipper clutch and the esc on my flux hp was a mamba monster. Motor was a 2200kv. My esc when connected worked with the castle creations programming software but my computer shows the ESC as a HPI product. It is insanely powerful and a lot of fun. FYI. Mine is a first gen savage flux hp and it still rips. I did forget to unplug the batteries one year and that fried my esc. I stripped the pinion but it can with a larger pinion so that is still on it. I have blew a few differential gears but found some heavy duty sets and also after about 10 years of owning it I finally blew a transmission gear. No problems with my wheels falling off. Only blew a couple tires off the rims. And the last things was I bent the TVP chassis plates at the back due to huge jumps! Now if only I had a FLUX XL. That would be sick! I am Traxxas at heart but the Savage line up (back in the day) are phenomenal. I own over 10 savages from different generations starting with the first gen and I have a savage XS that is just a ripper! Unfortunately it is in pieces. I have not played with any of them in many years. Since I got my Xmaxx and Redcat Gen2 crawler. But have not used those in about a year. The new products that are out now are much more robust that the old tech I have. But I am not seeing much difference in power systems. I wonder what the next level of power systems will be. Thanks for the vlogs man! Glad you did this Flux XL review. Great reminder of what I got in my garage. Maybe one day I will get to finish my custom first gen Tmaxx, or my custom original axial AX-10 crawler.

[@OMGRC]

Great video! Bummer it was a short run. I’m surprised HPI hasn’t fixed this issue. Awesome truck with loads of power maybe too much 🤔 I don’t like how the wheels are held on. 😎✌️

[@lionelplunkett9428]

G'day Mark yeah you can get Savage adjustable top camber links it's only available as a hot up but it worth it wait. They fly aye the week point is the wheels and centre dog bones. Lol I use Traxxas 17mm blue hex like 4+4 Slash conversion and you have to grind a bit off the back of them that works well or get Super 5 SC extended Baja hubs fit strait on and Baja wheels tyres a little on the big side but still cool. Great video mate 👍👍

[@SOMNIOHM]

You must review the new 2022 Savage XL 5.9 Nitro! *OR THE FLUX V2* 😅😅😂😂What you have here IS NOT THE NEW SAVAGE!!! This one is well over a year old now! This is not the updated revision!!! (HOW DID NOBODY NOTICE THIS!!!)

[@epicrc2084]

Seems like it held up pretty good

[@bowbender5095]

Same problem since the Savage 21. I have a Savage 25 and still love it, have to do the upgrade

[@VinnyDaSnake]

I've stripped hubs before and used liquid weld to reshape the hubs. Use a small drill bit and put dimples on the hub walls to give the liquid weld something to bite onto. Fill hub with a little liquid weld. Press the metal hub insert into hub until it fully bottoms out and the liquid weld squeezes out. Wipe excess. When fully dry, the hub inserts should knock back out with a small hammer and punch. Haven't had a problem since. 👍🏼

[@cwatson42785]

Mark to a experienced hobbyist like you this is no big deal. But honestly it's a good reminder to not just tighten your wheel nuts but use blue threadlock. This has happened to me before and since then I have added the blue loctite as a must for my pre run checklist. Not judging you but just saying it was easily preventable in the future. And i get that we shouldn't have to do things like blue loctite to keep wheels from coming off but it does prevent it in the future 👍🏻

[@kashmurray1199]

Like the body. I wasn't a big fan of the first gen E-Savage only because the chassy trapped alot of debree and small rocks. Hope you can up-grade the hubs.

[@nobetterrc6541]

I had to buy losi 17mm wheel hexes to throw on my nitro savage. worked just fine after that and never had an issue

[@joseCalderon1976]

Alamo City Hobby Shop. Yup that's my go to place. George, the owner is a great guy. He has a lot of good stuff. Too bad for the Savage. That was disappointing. Thanks for the video Mark. I use my makita XDT15R1B impact wrench to take my wheel nuts on and off. But m careful. I never lose wheel nuts 😂

[@MrGdbsti05]

repair and put back in storage i took your advice along time ago. i went to my local hobby store and traxxas arrma axial are the top here locally. xmaxx maxx mojave exb are my top rcs

[@ngbiggasdickus]

I've built a few savage trucks, and yes they need a lot of upgrades/mods to make them bombproof. My personal flux is built using parts from HPI, Losi, Ofna, Traxxas. Alza racing used to make some excellent TVP's and great center diff mount. Can't forget FLM, awesome bulkheads.

[@joshchatwin8569]

I think it's about time hpi come out with a new 1:5 scale truggy or savage or something

[@JayJacksRC]

“Well I hope you liked this $800 dollar review guys you are welcome!” Damn man that’s insane torque is crazy you called it as soon as you opened the box on the hexes sucks it broke man but knowing you it will transform into one super sick rig before it’s over lol

[@bnealerc]

It's not even a standing backflip. You did it on a roll! It was moving forward and you still did a backflip! That's some mega grip / power!

[@Triggered-RC]

Shoulda got the V2 model...

[@garygaarderjr9733]

I think for that kind of money it should have some aluminum upgrades and definitely last more than five minutes. Great videos, been watching about a year now and I’m 61.

[@MarkSantaMaria]

Thanks Gary! Yeah i would say at least 5 mins... hahaha

[@kosovovet100]

This is the first RTR I have ever had. Normally, I buy kits and build them. I went over the entire kit and found tons of loose bolts and nuts. The wheel nuts were the loosest of them all. If he didn't pre check the kit it's no wonder they came off. I did buy the 17mm hex upgrade kit and from what I've found, the truck needs a central diff due to weak pot metal gears in front and rear diffs. I plan on upgrading the gears as well. But, for the price this should be standard on the truck to start with.

[@andyb9994]

I would definitely fix now (I just can't leave them broke) then put in storage or maybe sell it or trade it, usually I wouldn't get rid of a R/C but It's a HPI dump it.....but cool vid👍👍

[@Xionmass]

I had a E savage and it was like crazy tough. I used to show my friends I can throw it as high as I wanted and it was so heavy. And didn't break. Ultimately I let a friend drive it . Right into a fire hydrant. Bent a little bit didn't break . Stripped motor screws lol

[@MarkSantaMaria]

hahaha... fire hydrants arent very forgiving.

[@MechanicallyFun]

I would say fix it and do series of before you run Vid. I have safe my self lots of time and money thanks to all the KZbinr that do before you run Vid, much appreciated guys👍 thanks Mark for sharing this vid, much appreciated 👍

[@ryanjarvis9617]

If they're still around there's a store called TCS the crawler store, they made a conversion for the Savage the regular Savage and it turned it into a Fifth Scale, I wonder if they make an electric conversion or the Savage XL big block Nitro version I'll have to look into that, but I did do the crawler stores 5th scale chassis for the Savage monster truck and it turned out great check it out if you get a chance see if they're still around.

[@markcole6475]

There’s that fine line of having too much power and enough power to have fun! I’ve built a couple rigs with too much power! End up working on them more than running them! HPI was the one to have back in the day! They have a following but not like Traxxas or Arrma

[@gonzodetroitify]

HPI 160141 HPi 114341 Both 17mm hex’s Just different routes Mark 🤩 can’t keep a good truck down 😊

[@barbedwirerat661]

Thanks, I had no idea HPI had come out with a true 17mm wheel hex kit (HPI 114341). When I got my Savage Flux HP way back in they day I used Vorza 17mm hex hubs and 5mm locknuts to do the same thing...but the Vorza used a 3mm pin so the stock hardened stub axle 2.5mm pin bore had to be drilled to accept that larger 3mm pin. Hope Mark picks up the 17mm kit and runs the truck again...would like to see another video of it.

[@gonzodetroitify]

@@barbedwirerat661 I used Arrma 6s’ version kit and although it worked I always thought they caused me heat issues And now I’m on true HPI’s and never worry about tumble wumbles again even with trencher 3.8’s on 6s 🍺🫵🏿

[@vbspeed7571]

Grate show super Family 👍👋🌍

[@scottmac6959]

That is the older model savage XL. There is a V2 version out with updates. I wish you would have gotten the newer one.

[@MarkSantaMaria]

Unfortunately thats what they had at the shop when i bought it. At least now we all know... hahaha

[@twinturbotony93]

Do these new ones have all right hand threads on the wheel nuts? I have the original savage & they came with left & right hand threads for the wheels to help keep them from backing off. I think getting true 17mm hexes will fix that problem pretty good for you. I'm sure you can find some on eBay for it.

[@kyronrc]

The thing with this model you have is that it doesnt have a center diff… thats why it feels so much powerful and will destroy all diffs. The new XL (the black one) does come with a center diff, so it drives much more like a truggy and is more reliable

[@MarkSantaMaria]

Yup... remember the first gen erevo.... it didnt have a center diff... it was crazy

[@storyracing387]

"Rum em, break em, fix em...." Need not apply 🤣🤣👍

[@falcon81701]

Has this wheel issue been resolved with the Savage V2?

[@gkhang9584]

The HPI Savage Flux was a major contender to the Traxxas E-Maxx, where the bulkheads would break under load. HPI solved that issue with the twin vertical plates but the vehicles had issues elsewhere. Two major flaw were the transmission spur gear coming undone and the wheel hex to hub that you experienced. I tried comparing this platform to the E-Revo and it was less of a headache to work on then the E-Revo. Arrma came on the scene with the Kraton and left the HPI Savage high and dry.

[@The1Karking]

E MAXX is old tech now. This is old tech now.

[@rmarkley79]

Had one, fixing anything felt like a nightmare, not a fan of the TVP (twin vertical plate) setup. Felt way overpowered, so I ran it on 4s. Also had to use straps around the battery boxes, had multiple eject. Also, my wheel nuts kept flying off. (Edit: Just finished the vid, sounds about right)

[@kelrobins7476]

I owned one when first released centre gearbox was a nightmare . Setting slipper clutch was a must and yep 4s was the go mate. Swapping those soft floppy tyres was big help also

[@MarkSantaMaria]

I think i should have ran it on 4s :(

[@rmarkley79]

@@MarkSantaMaria you wouldn't have known, my friend sent it to me in pieces, I rebuilt it completely, such a nightmare. Loctite every screw grubs especially, and then I sent it back to him after a couple runs. Now he loves it on 4s after I fixed it, lol

[@Stepside906]

Jenny’s rc Carrie’s a lot of parts and the HRP website Carrie’s HPI and tons of parts. Fix it up with the 17mm hex conversion and toss some tires on from one of your other rigs and go have fun. You won’t be disappointed

[@joespicer9577]

Good evening , i am in corning ny and i am considering opening an rc park with several tracks, with people i have spoken to there seems to be a ton of interest in it, how would I go about doing this?

[@nicethelyrical1529]

On sale! Maybe worth it at the discount

[@AdderMk2]

I have been baching a Savage XL (now brushless converted) for close to 15 years. I still have not broken a single arm. I have however broken EVERY SINGLE ONE of my steering knuckles (Upright Set #85048)

[@WillorRS]

that truck looks amazing, kind of shocking its on those little hubs and not 17s also that price point, Wow.

[@MarkSantaMaria]

I agree! Especially with that amount of power.

[@johna3083]

Turn it into just a shelf Queen I've never had good luck with HPI cars I've gotten rid of all mine or they're just self Queens cuz parts are so hard to get

[@ZingZingNZ]

I thought they changed the hex in the new release obviously not?

[@JagImaging]

Cool looking truck but a bunch of better options at that price point. You should go drive your Infraction to make you feel better lol

[@pedromateo2760]

M2c 17mm hexs will never back out bro

[@pablocarrillo4848]

Hi Mark check shadows hobbies, I know it's in New Jersey but Bob has a wall full oh. HPI parts hope he has the replacements you need Regards and continue your interesting videos 👍👍👍 Pablo

[@777beanz]

Could’ve been worse 🤷🏽‍♂️ could’ve been mine 😂 but I love the review💪🏽

[@mikenichols1585]

Hey Mark I live in Allen what school is that I like that racing area

[@ronbodnar1452]

I am new to the brushless motors. I am not new to the hobby. But mostly into nitro. I am building a brushless rc drag car and a brushless slash 2wd. Is a higher kv motor faster than a lower kv motor?

[@MarkSantaMaria]

higher kv spins faster but less low end torque.

[@ronbodnar1452]

@@MarkSantaMaria Thanks for the update bro. So a higher kv motor for drag racing and lower kv motor for the slash 2wd. I truly appreciate your honesty in this matter. I watch your channel ever time one comes out. Please keep up the good work.

[@wheelsdownrc6348]

I would like to start a bearing for now as to how long the next video will be before you break an arm. 3.26 😂

[@tyshiddejuremanbey1313]

9:33, did you see that Dragon Fly 🐉!!!

[@MarkSantaMaria]

hahaha... thats funny!

[@tyshiddejuremanbey1313]

@Mark Santa Maria Freaked me out man, i had to make sure of it!!!

[@gamertime1648]

I have an HPI savage flux hp and that thing is not very strong. I was out bashing one day and I did a speed run on some grass then i heard clicking then I turned over the truck to inspect then gave it a bit of throttle then the transmission blew out

[@samuelzimmerman2062]

You need a nitro hpi Savage now.

[@justinfreeman5366]

i got 30 secs and one full trigger pull before it stripped the 17mm hex socket, cant find aluminum wheel locks in 3.5 inchs so i am forced to go back to plastic

[@justinfreeman5366]

and i got it yesterday

[@vivos71]

Ive never really seen the appeal of the XL version of the Savage, the standard one already has the wheelbase of most 1/8 trucks, and nearly nothing is added to make the truck stronger, its just a longer wheelbase. Can even see gaps in the chassis where it was just stretched. I like HPI, they have good ideas, they just need to work on them a little and bring the prices down to Hobao levels.

[@coreygrace4856]

Put hoons on it for a rad street basher

[@nielsjuhr594]

That's a disappointment. Like you said, $800 for 2 minutes. Doesn't matter what your funds are, that's just not cool. A nap, like your puppy might have been a little more worth it 😅 Appreciate your content as always. 👍

[@MarkSantaMaria]

a nap would have been nice... hahaha

[@mvtepixels]

Hi Mark, you have this kit-» hpi#160141, will fix the popping off wheels problem, but later you will have problems on the diffs, a car with that level off power needs a center diff, so you would need a center diff conversion kit...

[@donalddrake4657]

Please fix it would like to see you upgrade it

[@gonzodetroitify]

And you could have slapped the kratons wheels on the savage to G😕 just reuse the savage wheel nuts

[@turnkeylife5105]

Fix it! 🙂

[@chriss8206]

It's more like a 6 scale instead of a 5th scale I had a Gen. 2 savage back in the early 2 thousands every single thing I could put billit on it was billit aluminum even the billet 3 speed transmission Box all steel gears that thing was a tank was one of the toughest R c's I ever owned

[@T00LF00L]

I want HPI to rerelease that Super RS4 Nitro!

[@williamoleary9330]

I practically begged HPI not to price this model and the new Savage X & XL this high because of almost exactly what you said. I even have the emails I sent to them and their reply. They should of been priced just slightly ($25-$50) overt the MAXX. It absolutely have to be priced less than the Kraton EX.

[@nunu4692]

Its an MT not a truggy. Great rc btw.

[@s.h.5726]

is this a bad idea, epoxy a hex nut into the wheel and that would save the wheel. Works well if you got enough spares and I have a hard time thinking mark doesn't have just a few spares laying around. Oh and fix those awful shocks, bounce bounce!

[@rcalltypes8230]

Sounds like, it would be better to run it on 4s lipo & gear up a little. With a 1/8 monster truck 👍🏻

[@bobthomas9403]

It looks like a Walter Vining tuned vehicle. Ijs

[@MarkSantaMaria]

it totally waltered... hahaha

[@wolf16731]

Unfortunately, you got the Savage XL that is last gen. The current gen comes with real truggy style 17mm hexes and wheel nuts that work much better.

[@garrybaugher8617]

Try to run it on 4s maybe 3s

[@ClickClacksRcs]

I think once you go crawling with a crew you will convert to crawling

[@Stepside906]

V2 flux has a bunch of updates to the issues you pointed out in the beginning of the video. Plus the only real savage in my opinion is the nitro savage. I have about 4 of them currently and one is a twin engine. Twin lrp .28. That truck is a blast.

[@denvermatt]

Why are HPI's so Expensive ?

[@makewithmegma]

💕👍

[@FarmerFpv]

HPI always looked like some contraption a drunk guy built in his basement with mix-matched parts held together by duct straps, lol. I had an old HPI RS4 Nitro I forgot to set up a fail-safe and on race day it went out of control almost a whole tank as no one could catch it bouncing off pipe barriers at 40mph. People scattered like flies running for their lives. 😂 It was possessed by the spectrum debil.

[@thejeepinrealtor5742]

Local shop has these discounted at $360…..tempting but the exposed gears and the tiny wheel nuts make me hesitant.

[@zoltannemeth9132]

2years i have a hpi savage flux.Ist so brutal so mad .Alvays problem for the gears.

[@danielnunez3518]

I can appreciate the Xl but it prefer the X. Less weight, less leverage on everything and a better handling truck.

[@rcjono]

I wonder how much testing they did with this truck. Is it an isolated case? Looks like it isnt because the issue was very mechanical, simply a hex getting stripped. If they have too much power, why did they use a hex that can easily get stripped. TKO in under 2 mins, Traxxas wins

[@DieselPower76]

WHOA

[@earthcoloredeyes5043]

The things made in the 50’s are still around today. The crap we make today will not have the same dexterity. Sad how things are made to wear out and break, so you have to buy more and more.

[@michaeldorich4485]

The truck had impressive power. The first HPI Savages were nitro and very, very durable. It's my impression that since HPI has become a European company things have changed and they don't seem to realize that to compete with companies like Arrma and Traxxas you have to be in the correct price range and the cars/trucks have to be super durable. Their rally car appears to be great and in the past they produced great cars. When I watched you run it, and the wheel flew off, I kept wondering what did the people testing it see. You didn't run it hard. It's way over priced.

[@MarkSantaMaria]

The wr8 rally car is amazing. It was the first HPI i reviewed and it set the bar super high. The worst part is... i dont have the replacement parts.

[@michaeldorich4485]

@@MarkSantaMaria Many years ago most hobby shops carried HPI parts. Hobby Recreational Products is one of the main distributors of HPI products. They have the same truck on sale for $599.99 right now.

[@michaeldorich4485]

Correction $559.99.

[@codenamethecleaner7519]

Well first off why would you want to buy a new old stock truck when there is a new version out already?

[@MarkSantaMaria]

Thats what they had at the shop... i figured i would be helping them and you guys out by doing the review ;)

[@codenamethecleaner7519]

@@MarkSantaMaria thank you for the review lol that’s robbery for them to sell you a old stock for new price though

[@mikeyyyy8915]

It’s really no faster than a kraton or erevo. It’s be cause it has no center diff, just a slipper clutch, so it’s it’s full power front and back, unlike a center diff car which bleeds most power to the front, so it just seems faster

[@MarkSantaMaria]

Agreed... the center diff really calms these high powered cars down.

[@mikeyyyy8915]

@@MarkSantaMaria I personally miss driving these old school slipper clutch monster trucks like eMaxxs and losi LST’s. To me the “out of controlness” was a little more fun 😝

[@Vladle2099]

Like the old emaxx. They never went to the 17mm hexes and the power will just destroy the wheel hexes as soon as the nuts came loose. They never evolved with the power of the newer motors

[@Eekers73]

no under guard for the axles , and the arms look really little , its gonna break .. :(