You can have as many opinions as you want, but that doesn't make them right

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@manilasop1148 2 жыл бұрын

OMG, I didn’t know that there is so much drama behind TiO! It’s been a while I’m enjoying TiO videos. As I’m absolutely into singing (professionally over 20 years)and still improving myself, I found that TiO brought so much knowledge to me and so much understanding where to pay attention and what failures I made in the past. Also the teacher I work with, brings so much stuff to me which are mentioned here. And I improved a lot. But really sorry to hear, that some dum*ba**es try to pure all the hate and jealousy on the great job of TiO. Mister Opera and this guy loggione. They are mad! I just read the blog of his and their pseudo intellectual text exchanges. They are damaged and hopeless. So what I wanted to say - thanks for keeping this Chanel. Hope nobody will bring it down.

@mariofilippeschi4855 2 жыл бұрын

I second to your opinion! Thanks to TIO I'm improving everyday. Small steps but still it is still an improvement.

@andity1 3 жыл бұрын

I am going to sign up for lessons with Mr.Sirianni next month. I am really glad there is someone out there to teach the real singing.

@operasingingtechniqueandpe2646 3 жыл бұрын

Me too!!

@Chris-wm4th 3 жыл бұрын

How was it??

@andity1 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chris-wm4th I definitely recommend Mr.Sirianni. He is a very good teacher!

@stone301 2 жыл бұрын

He is fake. Please don’t go to him. It is not old school singing like this

@andity1 2 жыл бұрын

@@stone301 No, he is not. He changed my singing and my voice for the better.

@operasingingtechniqueandpe2646 3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you. The old singers have clarity, strong head voice instead of collapsed head voice, breath support, and proper projection. The new singers have the opposite.

@User-ol4dp 3 жыл бұрын

ive waited for very long time for you to be active again in youtube . i think the best and unrepetable youtube channel on classical singing .

@operasingingtechniqueandpe2646 3 жыл бұрын

Me too.

@candysue4260 3 жыл бұрын

It's an archive channel.

@Paulofibonelli 3 жыл бұрын

yes, unfortunetelly it's general understanding that TIO chose to remain out of sight due to the frequent attacks it had received from modern opera singers advocates. This is only an archive channel

@candysue4260 3 жыл бұрын

@@Paulofibonelli I wouldn't say that.

@Paulofibonelli 3 жыл бұрын

@@candysue4260 yes, word has reached me about the difficulties TIO associates were experiencing regarding discordance and bad behavior. Would you like to share your point of view? I recognize that there was more than we could assume or understand at first

@AlejandroHernandez-pq2wv 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for returning these videos to us! they are worth gold ... could you please upload one where they talk about Mahalia Jackson! There are several videos on your channel where she appears singing ... but there is a video where they focus on her technique, please I would appreciate it very much!

@angelfish1470 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with the overall message of this channel and that they are trying to educate the public on what great singing used to be and could be again. There is one thing that is irritating though and it’s that who ever is making these videos and the videos on the other similar channel is intentionally lowering the sound on the examples of bad singing. And they are either leaving the sound on the examples of good singing at normal volume or slightly increasing it. This is disingenuous to your argument, deceptive to your audience and completely unnecessary! The examples of great singing from the past can stand alone without any of this nonsense. Please stop this!

@danielkristianson208 2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with your observation.

@manilasop1148 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t how many of you loved singers you heard life, but it can be pretty disappointing and hurting. Already several so called my favs fell out of my list after hearing them life. I couldn’t believe that after their great recording performances, life their voices were not that projecting or even not audible. And this in the Theaters like Bayerische, Hamburg, Berlin, Vienna and so on. So whatever TiO did with editing sound, it can be truth.

@toscadonna 2 жыл бұрын

Nobody has to turn down the sound for Angela Georghiu. That’s the smallest voice I’ve ever heard be allowed onto the MET. She could barely be heard singing all alone in La Rondine.

@delfajudith6930 2 жыл бұрын

The sound Is not altered. Believed it or not, it. Is that disapointing.

@artdanks4846 2 жыл бұрын

@@manilasop1148 I know what you mean. I had the same situation when I heard Renee Fleming in live concert. Her voice was still beautiful and expressive of course. But it was actually surprisingly quite a small voice, with no where near the depth of sound that are in her recordings.

@caseyfranco3959 4 жыл бұрын

I mean Obratzova had some nice chest voice but her head voice was mixed at times and wobbly so she wasn't an "old"(of the school) singer per say, she just had great chest voice

@EmilyGloeggler7984 4 жыл бұрын

Well said - her sound was awful at the top and her performance was atrocious - overacted to the point of hilarity.

@draganvidic2039 3 жыл бұрын

@@EmilyGloeggler7984 Like your point of views. Takes one to know one.

@St.Garoosh 3 жыл бұрын

the bickering and insults is why comments have been disabled for so long. Lets not start attacking each other again because someone holds a different view. Dissect the comment, dont attack the person.

@draganvidic2039 3 жыл бұрын

@@St.Garoosh Disabled? Haven’t noticed. Who are you btw?

@EmilyGloeggler7984 3 жыл бұрын

@@draganvidic2039 You have once again proved your own hypocrisy as well as falsely accusing people who don't share your opinions, as well as libel and slandering them.

@thelittlemermaid9282 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. I’m a young singer who religiously watches these videos and studies Opera. I’ve never had a vocal instructor and I’m scared to get one because they might ruin my voice. I’m also scared of learning the wrong ways of singing because of the lack of guidance. Does anyone know what I should do?

@tinekecarlson1220 3 ай бұрын

Look for hints on singing by Manuel Garcia. He has another book the art of singing. They have free PDFs online. Work on your chest voice first, focus on sounding open and loud. You will also have to work on breathing. Keep practicing and trying to feel your throat and diaphragm. Pay attention to what you're doing.

@thelittlemermaid9282 3 ай бұрын

@@tinekecarlson1220 Thank you. I have been doing a lot of those things, but I’ll also try to find some of Manuel Garcia’s work.

@SentryWater Жыл бұрын

Please don’t stop doing these videos!

@Tico4president 3 жыл бұрын

Craig Sirianni sounds great!

@Monnarchmonnarchy 3 жыл бұрын

Not so. Uncareful, top is weak. I prefer much better Fabio Armiliato

@stone301 2 жыл бұрын

No he is not good

@stone301 2 жыл бұрын

@@Monnarchmonnarchy yes, these this is opera people think if a sound is dark and “heavy” that it’s immediately great. If only it was that simple.

@bradycall1889 Жыл бұрын

Yeah he's imperfect but I don't expect modern opera singers to be as perfect as they were in the day.

@brunopicaude3092 2 жыл бұрын

Tebaldi is often given for a good example a perfect singer: beautiful color of the voice, quality of the emission, powerful. But on the other part, she didn't have the smallest mastery of virtuosity, was unable to sing a poor trill, and, after a few years of career, had great troubles with the high register (top C and even B). It's not what I call a perfect example.

@artdanks4846 2 жыл бұрын

@Bruno PICAUDE - I agree with you about Tebaldi. A beautiful voice, but not much mastery. And my guess for that is because she was trained with more of the "Verismo" schooling rather than the "Bel Canto" schooling, which could have enabled her to do so much more.

@brunopicaude3092 2 жыл бұрын

@@artdanks4846 You're certainly right. Her training was too short and too limited. And more, she sang only in italian !

@artdanks4846 2 жыл бұрын

@@brunopicaude3092 Agreed. What was really noticeable was her tendency to go flat, u fortunately.

@aaronmckone8973 Жыл бұрын

I mean I think singers of the past were allowed to be much more specialized than is the expectation of singers today. It wasn’t uncommon for a singer to almost exclusively sing in their native language or to specialize in one or two languages. And if someone sang in a verismo style, they weren’t simultaneously required to master forms of agility and other parts of the technique that were very rarely found in the music they sang. Nowadays, every singer is expected to be a generalist of sorts, especially while training. We learn all the major languages and practice a greater range of styles within our technique. Ultimately I think this is a good thing. My current feeling is that with our modern understanding of the voice and of pedagogy, we now have the most scientific and consistently reproducible training method in the history of opera. Where old teaching could potentially cause harm to voices that didn’t know how to correctly incorporate the training, it did create the absolute best voices of those that did correctly incorporate their training. On the other hand, nowadays we have more “good/decent” singers with healthy voices than ever before, but our training is so focused on “health and sustainability” that it never attempts to bridge out of that comfort zone of “easy singing.” The important thing is that big huge old school singing can totally be done in a way that is healthy and lasts a life time, as can be seen by the life long careers of most of those who did it the best, but modern teaching is to afraid to try and find that. So we have more “good” singers than ever before, but less utterly amazing singers than ever before at the same time. Considering how many talented, healthy voices are out there right now, the fact that there are no voices that come close to rivaling the power and excitement of some of the old greats is that much more astonishing. I think modern teaching is doing many things correctly (sorry TiO) BUT it is so afraid of taking those good things and figuring out how to crank them up to the next level. It’s obsessed with trying to make everything as effortless as possible, so as to have no risk of injury or anything like that. Granted, finding the biggest voice you have can take a risk, but with proper technique you can be singing like Corelli for your entire life (just like Corelli did). I think modern pedagogy had huge benefits, but at some point we have to stop hiding behind that pedagogy and instead use it to sing at our absolute best and maybe even surpass the greats of the past. We have the tools, but then the tools have also made us afraid of big singing, but we shouldn’t be.

@aaronmckone8973 Жыл бұрын

Nonetheless, yeah we train singers today to have higher expectations regarding agility and finesse than many singers of the past were held to. But we totally CAN have both nowadays, but instead it seems as though there’s this fear of big singing as being dangerous or unhealthy. And sure learning to use your voice to its fullest capacity can come with risks, just like learning to be an Olympic sprinter can come with risks, but that doesn’t stop them and it shouldn’t stop us. We have more facility than ever to be able to find that healthy BIG SINGING technique, so let’s do it rather than running away from it

@bradycall1889 2 жыл бұрын

So how do you feel about BaroneVitellioScarpia1 (not the actual singer, but the KZbin channel)?

@draganvidic2039 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t get over Sirianni’s hair… 🤣🤣🤣

@adogl 2 жыл бұрын

The title of this video is funny. Because it applies for the channel itself. LMAO

@geminikid1617 17 күн бұрын

Ok so explain what was said in this video that was wrong then since you apparently know so much.

@ceriellis1090 Ай бұрын

How come this channel never uses Pavarotti, Domingo .etc as an example? There's a video where Domingo as a baritone is shown but apart from that I see nothing, it seems strange

@geminikid1617 17 күн бұрын

If you think Domingo should be used as an example for excellent & technically correct operatic singing, then you’ve learned nothing from this channel so far. Unless you meant using Domingo as an example of what not to do. Pavarotti is a fantastic ex. tho. I think they may have been used before on this channel, at least the original channel used them as examples prior to it being deleted.

@iacobellus 4 жыл бұрын

some years ago i heard Georgiu in Adriana at Opéra Bastille … that was horrible. no volume, shit sound, shit acting …

@GordonLF 2 жыл бұрын

Good points! Notwithstanding, I don't care whether or not Sirianni can fill the auditorium with his voice after all his training to develop core. His rendition of Granada still is coarse and rather ugly. Not a good example. Jerry Hadley on the other hand...

@tinkerwithstuff 2 жыл бұрын

Hadley may not have understood how Canzone Napoletana are supposed to be sung. It is supposed to be "coarse", not delicate.

@EmilyGloeggler7984 4 жыл бұрын

That also includes the subjective opinions (masquerading as false "facts") of This is Opera. Stick with technique examples, because that is what is factual and concrete - unlike the subjective opinion to make false proclamations as to what sounds beautiful or emotive or not. The fact is that a healthy technical voice alone does not guarantee a beautiful voice, let alone a moving performance - except to those who only want to have the false belief that true opera is technique alone that will make a good singer or a bad singer. False. There are many other variables. Maria Callas, as well as Enrico Caruso, Rosa Ponselle, Nelson Eddy, and the minority then made it emphatically clear that you DO need more than healthy technique and even then, there are no guarantees that one's performance or voice will move everyone. As mentioned previously and which has been documented for any naysayers, even Maria Callas herself didn't like her own voice right up to the end.

@caseyfranco3959 4 жыл бұрын

When one says they don't like the voice Callas had I completely understand me being a great Callas admirer. Technique alone won't make you a great artist. If u do you must understand that you will not reach everyone as well as learning to take criticism. We live in a rather subjective and opinionated world and if you can't understand that I'm sorry to say you are not ready(ofc its something you learn). Even Tetrazzini as great as I think she was and such a great technique her performance(on record) has a tendency to be quite boring or dry. Still she has reached me and moved me and I'm fine with that. Milnes to this day I still think he was not a "great" baritone, too light and not enough core but to others he was the greatest of them all and that's OK. Technique alone is not the fault of a decline in singing but also mindset. I'll leave it at this: one must always keep a balance and if you work one side more be sure to work the other side as well careful not to neglect one thing or another.

@EmilyGloeggler7984 4 жыл бұрын

@@caseyfranco3959 I do think both sides need to be worked on in equal measure, because if one side is off balance - it ruins the performance - unless one is strictly a vocal mechanics/technique fan only. Like Callas, I share the concern and agree with her that true opera involves understanding and conveying the character and story - not just through the music, but through the words and story.

@Thisisopera 4 жыл бұрын

You sound like that clown Mister Opera.

@caseyfranco3959 4 жыл бұрын

@@Thisisopera still, I would have never learned about the old singers and old school singing had it not been for these videos. It has definitely helped me. The standards are way too low for opera today and people need to know the truth

@ferminsalaberri 4 жыл бұрын

bel canto means beautiful singin, the style was all about the beauty of the sound. There is no bel canto if the voice is ugly/bad produced. Callas voice was unbearable at the end and I really like her and admire her but as she said "she got some bad habits" and you can listen to the videos here in YT of her last recordings trying to restore some beauty to a voice that faulty technique had destroyed.