You can use external GPUs on the Raspberry Pi 5

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Jeff Geerling

Jeff Geerling

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@googlesucks6029
@googlesucks6029 10 ай бұрын
Born too early to explore Space, born too late to explore Earth, born just in time to run an egpu on a raspberry pi.
@adamscarsandstuff4969
@adamscarsandstuff4969 10 ай бұрын
“It’s great to be me!”
@1eyedwilli3
@1eyedwilli3 10 ай бұрын
Oh glory to us. 😂……..(;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)
@redone823
@redone823 10 ай бұрын
Born just in time to see AI go exponential as well.
@halvarf
@halvarf 10 ай бұрын
Born just in time to watch someone on KZbin manage to run an egpu on a raspberry pi.
@rosegray4061
@rosegray4061 10 ай бұрын
There's still plenty of earth to explore, if you don't have Thalassophobia
@tuttocrafting
@tuttocrafting 10 ай бұрын
I'm really hoping on a cm5 variant without the rp1 so we can have a lot of lanes!
@YonatanAvhar
@YonatanAvhar 10 ай бұрын
If we take off the RP1 chip, we'd have 5 lanes of PCIe, is it possible to use all 5 for a single device? Or are PCIe devices only able to use lane counts that are a power of 2?
@altonb
@altonb 10 ай бұрын
@@YonatanAvhar PCIE only works in powers of 2. So the max you could get would be 4 lanes on one device, which is still pretty significant.
@Elkarlo77
@Elkarlo77 10 ай бұрын
@@YonatanAvhar In PCIE 1x mode the lane is Bidirectional, after that the Lanes are paired to input with output lane. Thinking of it. Jeff should get himself some RX 6500 XT not the 6700XT. It may solve a lot of problems, yes the RX 6500 XT has only 4GB of Ram but it runs in PCIE 4x Mode ONLY which would be perfect for a CM5 variant without RP1 at least for testing it's great as the driver doesn't need to force the PCIE Bus of the Card down. And thanks to the crappy Bus lot RX 6500 XT run only slightly higher than a RX 580 on Ebay as they would be worse on an older PCIE 3.0 System.
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER 10 ай бұрын
you would need 16 cm5 boards connected together to get 1 x16 lane for a gpu to have full x16 connection or just 8 for x8 but keep in mind its only pcie 2.0 i saw jeff push it to 3.0 once but at 2.0 speeds its only 6gb/s x16 and half that at x8
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER 10 ай бұрын
but can it run crysis?
@nathanjensen8554
@nathanjensen8554 10 ай бұрын
I think you can fix the invisible cursor by adding WLR_NO_HARDWARE_CURSORS=1 to the environment variables
@youtubelisk
@youtubelisk 10 ай бұрын
That sounds like a wayland problem I've encountered with nvidia cards. Why would this happen with radeon cards?
@linux2420
@linux2420 9 ай бұрын
​@@youtubeliskbuggy drivers on the pi possibly...
@garrettmandujano2996
@garrettmandujano2996 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if it worked, seems like a driver on the graphics card
@inthestudy
@inthestudy 10 ай бұрын
I am really, really, really hoping that the RPF make the CM5's factory carrier board in an ITX compliant form factor like the VIA Neo-ITX. The 5 should be significantly faster than my daily driver laptop already, add a GPU and... I'm good. As well, add a flex riser and I can use it in a 1U case with a tape drive, a SAS array, a SCSI scanner, an old audio interface - all powered over the network. Most of that is doable on the CM4 sure, but the form factor is *just* off, and somehow no-one ever managed to just... reproduce the IO board in a "corrected" form factor, only wild, expensive cluster boards. So, I'm begging that Eben does it. :D
@niyaziugur
@niyaziugur 10 ай бұрын
i also wonder how it could work with the x4 pcie line which is connected to eth and usb at the rpi5 board
@inthestudy
@inthestudy 10 ай бұрын
@@niyaziugur It's a good question, but I highly doubt we'll see a PCI-E only CM5. The point is to be a SoM. If a device user has to implement a southbridge on their platform then it's not a SoM, it's a Pentium III ARM edition. And I think we can live without it. The number of use cases where PCIe x4 is more important than; ethernet, USB, video out, video in, GPIO - is going to be vanishingly small. Yes, I know there will be edge cases - but I wouldn't bet two cents that they're enough to justify a whole special version of the board. And personally, I'd be much more eager to see an RP1 release that we could add to say - a Honeycomb LX2 for Pi support on other ARMv8 platforms. :)
@PrajjalakChattopadhyay
@PrajjalakChattopadhyay 10 ай бұрын
When I was a masters student (Physics) I didn't have enough money to buy a laptop. I used an RPi3 and the cheapest display in the market for my academic stuff, like coding (Fortran, C/C++, python), graph plotting (gnuplot, python matplotlib) etc. When you said if RPi5 can be a potential replacement for traditional PCs, I remembered my old days. After joining PhD, I started getting enough scholarship money to get myself a good quality laptop with RTX 3060. I use that now for ML purposes.
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 10 ай бұрын
Darn, I've clearly not checked in recently enough. I didn't realise GPU on Pi were this close to working. If you can get a current gen AMD working I wonder if the Pi could ever manage to feed it data quick enough, even for 'pure' GPU tasks to saturate it. Either way great job to all involved, really does make the Pi seem even more like it would be able to replace any non-gaming desktop PC reasonably well - while compiling and a few other tasks might still feel too slow on even a Pi5 most of those tasks are not really 'DESKTOP USER' tasks - the sort of thing that gets pushed off on a workstation/server in many cases, and lets face it most folks will never touch a compiler (or any of the other really heavy CPU only tasks I can think off) at all.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 10 ай бұрын
Would be great, but isn't newest Raspberry Pi, PCI-E 3.0 x1 or x4? That would be enough for basic things, but some applications like to use GPU to compute some things and I don't know if that wouldn't be a bottleneck.
@Ichijoe2112
@Ichijoe2112 7 ай бұрын
Since when was a 2016 ATi Radeon RX 460 current? In case you somehow misplaced your Calendar, I would like to be the first to welcome you to the year of our Lord 2024! So if an 8 year old card is in your option a 'current' gen GPU, then this actually explains a bit. Then again nVidias' insane pricing isn't helping. But a 4090 a RX 460 ain't.
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 7 ай бұрын
@@Ichijoe2112 There was an 'if' in that statement you clearly missed. Any external GPU is impressive but ***IF!!! you can get the latest generation working could the pi even keep up? Though you can argue the card in use is 'current' in the sense it actually uses the AMDGPU kernel driver and not the obsoleted Radeon. Not even from that awkward crossover when AMD decided to really do Opensource driver support.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 7 ай бұрын
@@Ichijoe2112 You also need to take into account that even if it is capable of using AMD's RX 460 - it isn't capable of fully utilizing it - therefore trying with stronger card is kind of pointless - for now.
@Ichijoe2112
@Ichijoe2112 7 ай бұрын
@@jannegrey593 Thanks for validating my point. That this is a nearly pointles endever. again; Just because WE CAN! Isnt equal to we should.
@qbojj
@qbojj 10 ай бұрын
In radeontop you can press 'c' for colour!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
Ooooh did not realize that!
@ld5023
@ld5023 10 ай бұрын
I subscribed years ago to see you get a Pi working with a GPU. It was great content along the way but so satisfying that now you finally did it!
@superkirpi1405
@superkirpi1405 10 ай бұрын
Good works. Congralution. I still think that onboard GPU makes more sense. 🥶
@DBTechYT
@DBTechYT 10 ай бұрын
This is amazing! I love watching your videos where you are so ahead of things like this
@charlesgi5058
@charlesgi5058 10 ай бұрын
Hi Jeff, Love all your videos. Slightly off topic. I know PiKVM is a very popular topic right now. A similar topic you might be interested in, is using the pi as a remote terminal. My homelab currently runs on a Dell Micro computer with the optional Serial Module. I can remote into the pi using ssh and then serial into both my dell (proxmox) and/or my pfsense router using screen. Very easy and cheap to setup. Anyway I think Serial is under represented in the this content space but is incredibly useful. Figured I would through it on your idea pile for future homelab videos. Cheers!
@igordasunddas3377
@igordasunddas3377 9 ай бұрын
I love your content Jeff! It's great to be taken on an exploration journey of embedded pi-devices. Keep it up!
@Girvo747
@Girvo747 10 ай бұрын
I *knew* there was a reason I was hanging on to my RX480 8GB lol
@pseudotasuki
@pseudotasuki 10 ай бұрын
OMFG is your dream finally real???
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Yes it is! Next goal is to get box86/box64 going, then also see about transcode, OBS hardware accel, and maybe some Nvidia bringup. Nvidia's harder to deal with though :/
@psyolent.
@psyolent. 10 ай бұрын
jeff this is AWESOME to see mate, well done working with the community!!!!!!!!!!
@justanormalguyintheforest5518
@justanormalguyintheforest5518 10 ай бұрын
But can it run Crysis?
@PrestigiousDic
@PrestigiousDic Ай бұрын
😂
@mcpr5971
@mcpr5971 10 ай бұрын
your patience and perseverance is amazing. Congratulations on the business, hope you're doing lots of brainstorming on monetization. You have lots of possibilities in addition to making videos.
@Cowayger
@Cowayger 10 ай бұрын
Finally casting some light to my long running project - RPi with GPU in PS2 chassis game console. Good work Jeff!
@user-xu2pi6vx7o
@user-xu2pi6vx7o 10 ай бұрын
Dreamcast chassis or bust!
@Cowayger
@Cowayger 10 ай бұрын
@@user-xu2pi6vx7o Too bulky, no challenge at all!
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER 10 ай бұрын
would love 16 cm5 boards connected together as 1 and connected a gpu to those x16 lanes vs the ampere see if it can play games
@BUDDYpex
@BUDDYpex 10 ай бұрын
I’d love to be able to use a GPU for hardware encoding on Plex on the Pi5
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
Plex/Jellyfin transcoding are on my list of things to attempt once we get drivers more stable!
@voyager33mw
@voyager33mw 10 ай бұрын
Impressive. I look forward to seeing shenanigans with a GPU on the Pi.
@bitlong4669
@bitlong4669 10 ай бұрын
This,is great.. I got lots of gpus from the crypto good time…. And pi 5s in the mail! Should arrive just in time for Xmas break woooo!
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER 10 ай бұрын
you would need 16 cm5 boards connected together to get 1 x16 lane for a gpu to have full x16 connection or just 8 for x8 but keep in mind its only pcie 2.0 i saw jeff push it to 3.0 once but at 2.0 speeds its only 6gb/s x16 and half that at x8
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER 10 ай бұрын
but can it run crysis?
@TimothyGraupmann
@TimothyGraupmann 10 ай бұрын
Major milestone! Pretty soon we can do AI predictions with a RPI connected to an eGPU...
@BaderDa
@BaderDa 10 ай бұрын
You are amazing dude. Great work!
@austriandude
@austriandude 10 ай бұрын
Wow, Kudos! Immense accomplishment! Gratuations! There are not enough words!
@MelroyvandenBerg
@MelroyvandenBerg 10 ай бұрын
It has been 1 hour ago since I recompiled the Linux kernel
@Frankie_Freedom
@Frankie_Freedom 4 ай бұрын
I was getting super giddy, at this, as I also have an extra Radeon 480 and pi5 maybe I will look into this more
@Kw1161
@Kw1161 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Jeff great work making a much more expensive GPU Card work on a $60 Raspberry Pi V. You like one of my old US Navy buddies who took a Ford Pinto Body and much beefier brakes, suspension, drive train etc and put in a 429 CUI engine in with a hush kit, so he would have the bragging rights in his street racing buddies. I be your project is much more practical once you iron out the bugs…😂! Good luck with the new studio/office and have a great day.
@Madwonk
@Madwonk 10 ай бұрын
For the Pi in particular- I wonder if we could add a Thunderbolt/USB4 hat and just use an external GPU enclosure. It's much less messy than the whole PSU+GPU+etc. sprawled everywhere since they're built with that modularity in mind.
@4nk8r
@4nk8r 10 ай бұрын
I think that the pi will be a desktop with a GPU soon . You are well on the way Jeff.
@ellooku
@ellooku 8 ай бұрын
Finally. My next mission. I believe RX470 & 580 should also work.
@dummypg6129
@dummypg6129 9 ай бұрын
GPU: Look at me, I'm the motherboard now!
@binershock
@binershock 10 ай бұрын
Hell yeah Jeff you do god's work
@sk8ertrash
@sk8ertrash 5 ай бұрын
This is great info. Just made me want a pi 5... and I don't need one. But also. you can run an external gpu on any intel based Mac. that has thunderbolt. so since like 2017 I think? (I could be totally wrong on when thunder bolt was a think.) It's definitely newer software with apple support. but hardwares been around.
@vintagekyoshodotcom
@vintagekyoshodotcom 10 ай бұрын
That video card really should have the fans running. it will get hot fast. :) I know you'll figure it out.
@gregtheintense
@gregtheintense 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the content!
@dolex161
@dolex161 10 ай бұрын
ER-MER-GURD!!! GPU ON ARM! come on apple! Enable egpu on macs and mac pro! This is huge!
@WellBeSerious12
@WellBeSerious12 7 ай бұрын
If there's enough hardware/software support, enough cases/adapters/cables, comparably energy-efficient, and affordable, then it would make sense. How would such cases even look?
@JonitoFischer
@JonitoFischer 10 ай бұрын
I loved the moment you realized Apple is ripping you off with the hardware they sell to you (and the fact that is completely locked)
@nixigaj11
@nixigaj11 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see the OpenCL 3.0 driver Rusticl working on that thing, that would be very cool. Imagine running Blender, DaVinci Resolve, or AI workloads on it.
@lephtovermeet
@lephtovermeet 10 ай бұрын
Jeff, I knew you were a sadist but diet dr pepper!?
@jamesdecross1035
@jamesdecross1035 10 ай бұрын
I thought a nest-of-cables was a 1980s thing!
@Irohnn
@Irohnn 10 ай бұрын
I want to run stable diffusion on the raspberry pi with a GPU I think that be really cool
@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-
@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- 10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the n100 is chugging along in the background quietly.
@owlmostdead9492
@owlmostdead9492 10 ай бұрын
In 10 years we might not even need to look at Intel/AMD for workstations, RISC is going to be very interesting.
@jaumesinglavalls5486
@jaumesinglavalls5486 10 ай бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS!
@MeGaLilCe5ar
@MeGaLilCe5ar 9 ай бұрын
I have a water cooled 1080TI just chilling .. my new Pi5 calling its name . I hope it’s possible soon 🫣🗣️🔥😭
@cmd.ada.
@cmd.ada. 10 ай бұрын
PI GPUS ARE A THING NOW!!!! (also i could never afford one but this content is amazing). Good job to everyone involved!
@YouTubeGlobalAdminstrator
@YouTubeGlobalAdminstrator 10 ай бұрын
They are? Maybe for Jeff, but who else uses them?
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket 10 ай бұрын
@@KZbinGlobalAdminstrator People who want low power video transcoding for a home multimedia server, people who want a low power Personal Video Recorder for their home security camera's, and people who are a bit more eccentric and want to do protein folding for science.
@Cinkodacs
@Cinkodacs 10 ай бұрын
@@KZbinGlobalAdminstrator These things start out this way, a bit janky, very weird and not really useful in a practical setup. Then ever so slowly they might get adapted and made more practical if there is a use for them, and there are possible valid use-cases for this. So yes, getting this close to running means they are very much a thing to watch out for.
@cdnron75
@cdnron75 10 ай бұрын
​@@KZbinGlobalAdminstratorExactly. This would be a very niche use case scenario. If you need a GPU and a low power CPU, just build a low power x86 PC.
@pptemplar5840
@pptemplar5840 10 ай бұрын
​​@@CinkodacsI could honestly see this becoming really useful, would take a few years, but I could see this blossoming into the future equivalent of entry level 300$< bricks for gaming or workstations for students, a few new standards would need to be made, maybe some innovative cooling solutions would be necessary, but I think a NUK or Thin Client equivalent with some actual muscles to flex could be really useful for a lot of people. Ultra budget Gaming rigs kinda suffer from the cost of shipping, so lowering their footprint and volume could be a real advantage, not to mention having an entry level standard for students learning 3D modeling and living in small dorms and apartments. Schools could gobble them up and make certain extracurricular courses actually sort of viable. I really hope this is pursued and AMD or Intel or whoever see a potential industry to get behind.
@davidbubble6863
@davidbubble6863 10 ай бұрын
Wow after so long, the GPU is finally working (partially) on Pi! Means those 2nd hand older GPU value will definitely increase in the future lol. I'm excited for the day the GPU to be fully functional in the future!
@he8535
@he8535 10 ай бұрын
Box86+Box64+wine+steam now
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't buy anything older than 2018. RX6600 is already 200 dollars, that's real cheap, anything less than that price/performance ratio is a very possible waste of money, specially for a pi since you will want efficiency for your projects.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 10 ай бұрын
@@he8535 Windows on arm for me!
@butre.
@butre. 9 ай бұрын
​@@Splarkszterrx460 draws half the power of a 6600xt under load and idle power consumption is around 10w. the 6600 has greater efficiency but personally I'll just take the $30 card
@aaronmoore3050
@aaronmoore3050 8 ай бұрын
@@butre. Might pick one up now. They might go up in price if they become a favorite for pi 5.
@sp3lllz
@sp3lllz 10 ай бұрын
Most modern GPUs have a "0db mode" where when it's under a certain temperature usually around 40/50⁰c it will turn the fans off to reduce noise at idle.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 10 ай бұрын
They do. However if they don't spin at all (especially under stress test), there might be a problem with interfacing with VBIOS and fan curve. Or it might not get power to fans for some reason.
@DiamondMaster115
@DiamondMaster115 10 ай бұрын
I saw the title and was like: THERES NO WAY!!!!
@MichaelKlements
@MichaelKlements 10 ай бұрын
The video we've been waiting for! Well done on getting this working amongst your move and the seemingly endless task list that comes with it.
@socketwench
@socketwench 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate the cut to explain the mistake about the HDMI connector, rather than just an on screen text. Often those on screen text corrections are too fast to read, or appear under regular subtitles.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
Definitely! I try to get to that when I can in editing. Sometimes it's a bit difficult to actually film something later, but in this case I still have it set up on my desk right now, heh.
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi 10 ай бұрын
Very cool stuff in the works! Honestly I don't think the pi 5 would have had a PCIE interface if it wasn't for people like you stretching the boundaries of what could (or should) be done on a credit card sized computer. Stay curious :)
@WilliamHollinger2019
@WilliamHollinger2019 10 ай бұрын
This is why I am a fan of AMD open source files unlike Nvidia.
@oggilein1
@oggilein1 10 ай бұрын
sadly when it comes to firmware, both amd and nvidia cards have it closed source with nividia cards actually being the better option since the cards up to and inclufing keppler/gtx 7xx series could actually run without firmware, tho video codec acceleration doesn't work without it. Amd cards and newer nvidia cards will simply refuse to boot without the firmware
@cheapcheating6219
@cheapcheating6219 10 ай бұрын
AMD is like android Nvidia is like Apple it’s just better
@Fractal_32
@Fractal_32 10 ай бұрын
@@cheapcheating6219except Wayland has been working on AMD for years and Nvidia is finally giving support to that.
@blackmennewstyle
@blackmennewstyle 10 ай бұрын
This guy's dedication, in order to get an external GPU working on a Raspberry Pi, is absolutely admirable ❤
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 10 ай бұрын
But does it play Crysis?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
We shall see...
@LockonKubi
@LockonKubi 10 ай бұрын
I'd be more curious about known arm engines, I know idTech4 has run on other Pis,
@ChrisFaulkner
@ChrisFaulkner 10 ай бұрын
I have that same RX460 card, and using that in Gentoo, you have to fork a lot of firmware into the kernel. It's not like some DKMS or kernel patch like nVidia uses. You literally have to kernel config edit the firmware hooks directly in the kernel, not using modules but baking it right into the kernel. Whoever is working on this needs to bear in mind that AMD's GPU has to be firmly hooked into the kernel for it to work correctly.
@akshaymathur136
@akshaymathur136 10 ай бұрын
I have an RX550 (not much of a difference), but it just works. The newer drivers are something else. The opensource ones work really well. (Well, also I am no longer compiling my own kernels, no longer have the time for that and the difference is not much anyways).
@coreforge
@coreforge 10 ай бұрын
I haven't had any firmware issues with amd cards so far, neither on my desktop, nor on the pi. You need to have the firmware, but that can be installed by installing the firmware-amd-graphics package (or downloading and copying the files separately if your distro doesn't offer it).
@sky37blue
@sky37blue 10 ай бұрын
You look different Jeff, you look fantastic. I love these videos, for some reason they remind me of the 80s when i was a kid and we had ZX Spectrums and the school had one BBC micro
@caffeinatedhuman4035
@caffeinatedhuman4035 10 ай бұрын
(1) Even if you can get it to work...why? (2) What is the end plan? (3) Technically you've removed portability (4) In which case what x86s are you now competing with? (5) Not saying it's not cool but (6) Yes arm need external GPU support however...🤔🙃😉
@JonitoFischer
@JonitoFischer 10 ай бұрын
You should use the 5V output from the ps or buy a 12V/5V at 4/5A DC/DC converter to power the Pi from the same supply you power the graphics card.
@MarioPL989
@MarioPL989 10 ай бұрын
Why not just use 5V from ATX power supply to power pi5?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea! I may wire this up at some point, but the current setup is good enough for testing at least.
@checkyourfax
@checkyourfax 2 ай бұрын
I think we just gotta wait for a Pi 6 with USB4 (Thunderbolt) to properly support eGPU's permanently, without crazy setups.
@112Famine
@112Famine 8 ай бұрын
Could use a ADT-Link into the M.2 slot if you want an external PCIe slot. ETA Prime done this with a Laptop months ago. Could also use a ADT-Link on a ITX PC if a second PCIe slot was needed for a capture card for example. Would be smart if you're buying a ITX board to make sure it has more than one M.2 being controlled by another controller on the MB, other than the one controlling your main GPU PCIe slot. ...just like how many MB will have two sets of SATA controllers. Yeah, the ADT-Links are fun to play with no matter what platform you're working with ...could one be plugged into a gaming console? a PS or XBox? to do what? No clue.
@Zenefor
@Zenefor 10 ай бұрын
Is it possible that the pi might run software mode for display input, transfer it through the ram to the gpu and then the gpu and loop it back in the video output?
@timypp2894
@timypp2894 10 ай бұрын
uP used to be back in my days, short for microprocessor.
@delicious_seabass
@delicious_seabass 10 ай бұрын
While this is cool and all, buying a Pi5 only to use a high powered GPU on it sort of defeats the purpose. At that point, you might as well just get a mini PC. Even just as a router, a mini PC is much better cost and performance-wise.
@johniccia6175
@johniccia6175 10 ай бұрын
I actually can't wait till this becomes problems free.
@prozacgod
@prozacgod 10 ай бұрын
You're a beast... lol! You also have a lovely cacophony of why? Why do people like us (and most of your audience) do such silly things...
@H3cJP
@H3cJP 10 ай бұрын
i was going bed (1am) but i guess i must see this
@siroj4249
@siroj4249 10 ай бұрын
same
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
Luckily it's a nice short one :) I'll do a bigger video at some point once we get the drivers ironed out a bit more!
@shawnnlee
@shawnnlee 10 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerlinggreat video!please test more apps there in your next video!thks!
@sandichhuu
@sandichhuu 6 ай бұрын
If AMD write a driver to run on linux arm, that's mean we can play minesweepers on 4k 60fps.
@fluoxethine
@fluoxethine Ай бұрын
Please test the Pineboards Hat uPCIty. Thank you!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
I have one and have been testing!
@mistie710
@mistie710 10 ай бұрын
Another person that doesn't know that ARM processors predated Newton. Mind you, for most of that time, Acorn ran their own video systems directly from the motherboard.
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER 10 ай бұрын
using r9 280x is cheap rx 560 is cheap but try getting a rx 6600 xt ,rx 6700 xt , and try arc 380 or arc 750 nvidia is over priced stuff
@HowieDue416
@HowieDue416 10 ай бұрын
Does this mean that you could run steam on this? Could openGL be possible to be coded for this?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
Yes and yes! Steam isn't yet working but I believe it will be possible with box86/box64
@sundhaug92
@sundhaug92 10 ай бұрын
You'd need an x86-arm translation-layer, but yes
@firavununnarsizmi5088
@firavununnarsizmi5088 3 ай бұрын
Pi 5 isn't going to replace anything with that CPU bottleneck and power supply.
@MrPixelMan900
@MrPixelMan900 10 ай бұрын
This is the perfect reason AMD gpu's is better with compatibility
@MrMorokiatt
@MrMorokiatt 10 ай бұрын
How about we get delivery on the Pi 5. Ordered on Sept 29, and here it is Nov 11, 2023. grrrrrrr
@clewis4744
@clewis4744 10 ай бұрын
I use my raspberry pi4 as a desktop. Mostly surfing the web, sometimes using LibreOfiice, sometime experimenting with Linux. What I cant do is run Godot4 and Blender. I would really like to know if the raspberry pi5 could run Godot4 and the latest Blender natively without an extra card. I am hoping to get my raspberry pi5 soon.
@TeeEllohwhydee
@TeeEllohwhydee 10 ай бұрын
I'm sure "ElFarto" only chose that handle for when he gets shout outs on KZbin. :)
@JoeEnderman
@JoeEnderman 10 ай бұрын
Wow, that's overkill I think.
@JaeTLDR1
@JaeTLDR1 10 ай бұрын
New here. Why the pi for everything? It doesnt seem worth the hassle when a x86 machine can do more for similar price.
@garrettrinquest1605
@garrettrinquest1605 10 ай бұрын
Just for funsies mostly. ARM chips are more power efficient and Pis are really easy to do whatever you want to them. Some of us just like things to tinker with
@maix52
@maix52 10 ай бұрын
The thing is that a raspberry pi is very small, and very power efficient. Granted the pi5 does have a fan by default, but I guess some ppl will make heatsink that can handle it. Also we'll probably be able do all of what is done here on an compute module 5, which is very small and way more modular. I guess it all depends on your need.
@JimmyCerra
@JimmyCerra 10 ай бұрын
Because it's cool.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
This, mostly ;) It's a small, cheap, and fairly capable little device. If someone can grab an old graphics card, slap it on a Pi, and have a little transcoding media server, one less unused wasted GPU in the world! :)
@JaeTLDR1
@JaeTLDR1 10 ай бұрын
I get the fun aspect but i guess for me i can do more with better hardware and not worried about about limits. Also my pi3 all died or failed in the local climate so i havnt really gone back to it.
@Arek_R.
@Arek_R. 10 ай бұрын
I'm mad rpi people didn't put M.2 slot on the rpi5 instead the dinky FPC connector. This way not only you need no hats to run a SSD, but also there are already existing on M.2 to "USB" and "USB" to x16 PCIE GPU mining adapters so you could hook up a GPU to your rpi5 and wouldn't need to wait for someone to design new adapters. There is also like dozens of different M.2 adapters, like network adapters, USB hubs with own controller and anything you can run off PCIE.
@jasongaunt
@jasongaunt 10 ай бұрын
Whereas I do agree with you (it should have come with one), it would change the form factor dramatically, the M.2 slot would likely have to go on the bottom of the board and upset all the fanboys / accessory manufacturers who suddenly have to radically change their designs / implementations. I think / hope / pray that the CM5 solves this by just letting people use those lanes for whatever they want.
@suluturnip
@suluturnip 10 ай бұрын
Oh wow. That’s so cool. Anyone got a link where I can find any raspberry pi for msrp? Thanks.
@bryanteger
@bryanteger 10 ай бұрын
I had to show my wife your tinker desk to justify my own. Sorry for throwing you under the bus Jeff.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
Haha!
@VikramSinghRajput0001
@VikramSinghRajput0001 8 ай бұрын
​@@JeffGeerlingwant a fps test video with this Gta 5
@sounds252
@sounds252 10 ай бұрын
Yay! I love the jankyness. :) Awesome work. :)
@criggie
@criggie 10 ай бұрын
I tried a Pi4 as a second desktop at work, and it functioned but even 8GB was just too limiting. The only option was to not run a browser, just use the Pi as an xterm-tiling display and a head-end for Synergy. Why can't the Pi family address more memory? Can this be design-improved in the future ?
@StoianAtanasov
@StoianAtanasov 10 ай бұрын
Just say it will be great to run local AI on it and it will get traction.
@Xeph0r
@Xeph0r 10 ай бұрын
Huh. I wonder if someone could make an OCuLink HAT that is also capable of powering the Pi using a eGPU box like the GPD G1?
@whitneydesignlabs8738
@whitneydesignlabs8738 10 ай бұрын
Very cool, Jeff! I think this has some possibilities for local LLMs in robotics projects. I know there are other options like Jetsons etc. But there is something lovely about the CPU being a Pi. I wish I had the skill set to contribute. But for now, I'll be following. BTW, on your recommendation a week or two ago, I ordered a couple pci adapters from the guys in Poland. Thanks for the tip.
@Tawasy-vx3ce
@Tawasy-vx3ce 2 ай бұрын
Does it work on Orange pi 5 ?
@silversonic1
@silversonic1 10 ай бұрын
Congrats. It's clear from recent developments that ARM is coming to take x86's lunch money, so increased driver support should become a priority. And with you pushing for it, it's not gonna fall on deaf ears. Keep plugging away.
@autohmae
@autohmae 10 ай бұрын
I think improving the drivers for ARM also helps improve those drivers for RISC-V
@hostgedewin
@hostgedewin Ай бұрын
Can you install windows on your pi and try to play some steam games?
@imnutrak130
@imnutrak130 10 ай бұрын
" the gpu is old born after SOME of my children", damn Jeff, you really into clustering technology you apply it in your life!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
Gotta have redundancy!
@JoshuaZangari
@JoshuaZangari 10 ай бұрын
Brb, ordering an adapter and digging my old RX580 out of it's box.
@wskinnyodden
@wskinnyodden 10 ай бұрын
There is a mouse type or whotnot variable that can fix the no mouse image issue. Basically the acceleration for the mouse is likely not working on the GPU so you may want to just render it like on a framebuffer (and there is an option to force something along those lines which should make your mouse visible)
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER 10 ай бұрын
try rx 480 try a linux compatible game crysis ??
@Penfolduk001
@Penfolduk001 10 ай бұрын
I remember a couple of weeks ago someone trashing my comment about connecting a graphics card to a Pi 5. Thanks for not only doing it but smashing it as well. 🙂
@nazar5549
@nazar5549 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how many CPU cycles are lost with all that printk fault debug output
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
A good deal-the journaling crashes as the buffer fills up! I will be re-testing without logging too-can get more performance that way.
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