You DON’T Need The Sasquatch! The Ford Bronco Badlands Is The Sweet Spot In The Lineup!

[@jamescaldwell5]

I chose the Badlands because I wanted a 4door with a manual AND dual zone climate, larger touch screen, birds eye view. With the other trim levels you have to chose between high tech infotainment or manual transmission. I also love that the tires on the Badlands are significantly larger than the base model and do not look too small. (so you can avoid the costly sasq or lift kit/ wheel upgrade) I ordered it with the hard top and roof rack and towing package. But stayed with the marine grade vinyl and smaller engine (required for manual transmissions) and managed to keep the build under $54k.

[@rangerwolfhound]

I will be buying or ordering one in 2025 once I move. My main concerns are power and luxury. I was leaning toward the raptor, but I figured I could save 10-20k to use toward other things like maybe lift, winch, and bump. what advise do you have on model i should buy. Also, I may just buy one straight from a 4x4 shop. To early to tell. I have a company truck so this won't be a daily driver

[@askren76]

Totally agree this is the sweet spot build. Very similar to mine, but I have the hard top and modular bumper. No Sasquatch necessary for the off-roading I have done, and I can upgrade to larger tires/ lift if I get more extreme.

[@clintbarg]

We have the same ride and I absolutely love it. 7.5k miles in and wouldn't change a thing.

[@jeffk464]

Those large tires come with a big penalty for gas mileage and highway driving. You have to evaluate how extreme you're offroading will be.

[@jordan4328]

We just got a badlands without the sasquatch and the smaller bfg's make such a big difference for driving dynamics. It's a sweet spot for people who drive a lot

[@PureToneMusic]

I have a carbonized gray big bend with sasquatch and it's my favorite build out there. I added a bunch of accessories, tinted lights and windows, and it looks exactly the way I imagined my dream car. Love it.

[@zachariahyager3115]

Two door non Sasquatch Badlands Bronco is the best option I’d say. 2.3 is plenty for the two door. Add manual for the gears if you want but it really doesn’t need it. I like my off-road vehicles nimble. The Sasquatch just makes the Bronco too wide and bulky. Need that efficiency too.

[@chrisdakins2010]

I agree with you completely! I’m building a 2 door badlands on the website and it says the gear ratio for the manual is 4.7. It says that’s the same as the wild track Sasquatch gearing? Only the wild track Sasquatch and doesn’t say the other Sasquatch’s? So I guess if it’s the same gears for that Sasquatch it’s going to be ok to put skinnier 35’s on it down the road?

[@brawnto]

The 7MT also comes with the 4.7 gearing that's typically only available with the sasquatch package. And to be honest, none of the packages are really worth it.

[@matthewhuntsman5920]

I just got my badlands and I absolutely AGREE! It has everything you’d need or want. Mines the 4 cylinder also. Has plenty of power.

[@jtr990]

Looking back on the Bronco, a great off-roadside rescue vehicle in any trim level. With plenty of trunk space enough to carry a set of four punctured 20" wheels and tires. Plus additional room to carry a jack, an impact wrench, an impact socket set, and a torque wrench.

[@ajjones977]

I ordered two Broncos at separate dealers as a strategy to get it built as fast as possible with the intention would let the 2nd order go. By chance they were built the exact same time and almost identically built badlands except one for one being a different color and had the Sasquatch package. I drove both for about a week and though I like the look of the bigger tires I decided to sell the sas and kept the non-sas badlands. The difference in mpg was only about 1-2mpg but I decided to save about 3k since I rarely go off road and the off road handling seemed a bit better… I may throw on 35’s once the stock tires are shot but I’m happy with my decision for now as I prefer the K02s.

[@roncrouch404]

I agree, Badlands is the best trim. Would get the MGV instead of leather though.

[@INVERTEDBUKAKI]

Employee to ford executive.. Sir we can't build them fast enough! Ford Executives "Than we shall go with 8 different trim levels and keep it simple " 🥸

[@Johnnyscarcarereviews]

Lol. That is comically said

[@bonnieblack6973]

Why are they stockpiling them in Ypsilanti?

[@TugHillGuy]

I took delivery of a 4DR Badlands, non-Sas, 2.3L, auto, leather, lux. After trading in my Sport Trac it is now my only vehicle. To me, "all terrain" includes the overwhelming majority of the driving I'll do on pavement, so I thought the 33" KO2s were pretty much the Goldilocks size for me. I had a set of KO2s on my '98 Ranger and they were the best tires I ever owned - really good in snow, off-road and smooth and surprisingly quiet on pavement. I've noticed that the Bronco Off-Roadeos include non-Sas Badlands and they appear to be able to conquer all the obstacles there. Bronco Nation did a few videos that had the theme of "Will it make it?" where they successfully drove their then non-Sas Badlands up very difficult off-road trails.

[@2pi628]

The best overall IMO is the *BASE w/Sasquatch 2.7:litre w/10 speed auto, plus the hardtop, plus all four tube doors for ONLY $48,000* --- And that includes the COOL cloth seats! They are the only seats that keep you from getting sweaty butt in the summer. Not only that BUT they are warmer in the winter as well. Also to keep the glare down at night luckily you get the smaller display, nor do you get the unnecessary electronics that have been over hyped and will eventually plague you with malfunctions, leading to devaluation of the vehicle. Note: a manual sway bar disconnect can be purchased aftermarket for less than $200.

[@DrXtoph]

Thanks!

[@MissleT0E]

@@DrXtoph why 4dr? 😵‍💫

[@robertreyes7782]

That's a good option, I ordered a Big Bend hardtop sasquatch with a 2.3 manual. I absolutely love this option it arrived 10 months after the order. It was cheaper than this suggestion. I paid about 48,000 for mine,

[@kenyattaclay7666]

I was just saying the same thing that the Big Bend would be able to fit what the overwhelming majority of people are going to need or want.

[@DavesRepairService]

I absolutely love my Black Diamond 4dr 4cyl manual.. with the all black steelies and on 32 inch tires.. I paid sticker of $ 41,000. No front locker or trail turn assist but I manage.

[@djjd3027]

That's the model I'm looking at. I'm not interested in a bunch of silly options that I'll forget about after 6 months of ownership. And set up the way I want comes in around the low 40s

[@s.centralkeystone558]

Same here, except we got the 10 spd auto and mid package which came in around 43k msrp.. we also got ours with no mark ups. Black Diamond package is perfect for us and the black steelies look awesome!

[@zachariahyager3115]

This is the budget build for a solid off-roader.

[@mpeugeot]

Those are both good packages, but I ended up going with the 2.7 auto 2 door OBX adv 4x4 with the Lux and Tow packages. ended up at $47,953 (just under sticker). No front locker, no sway bar disconnect, but I do get 22 mpg at 75+ mph thanks to the lighter rims and tires on the OBX.

[@BarryMDHo]

Great vid thx! Mine is a '22 Black Diamond 4 dr. 2.3 Sasquatch soft top. First, 2.3 is much quicker than expected (300 hp, upgradeable to 350 with aftermarket power chip). Second the soft rubber floors/bed and marine seats are very comfy/user friendly (better than leather and carpet). Third, the Sasquatch complete package really compliments the whole Bronco functionality, look, and vibe. Also comes with the same steel bumpers as Badlands, (& MOLLE panelled seat backs) and mine also included tow pkg, aux switches, with a Cdn list price of $66k (Low to mid $50k USD range approx.). Also with 8" screen, base stereo (would have preferred 12" and B&O stereo though).

[@richardrussell5128]

Totally agree...the 2.3 is so underated.

[@richshan529]

This build that you are describing is actually what I am leaning towards on my order. I have been waiting since the very beginning for my 2 door, Black Diamond Bronco but I'm leaning towards changing it to a 2 door, Badlands Bronco with the 4 cylinder engine, the automatic transmission and the upgraded 4wd system so that I can get the 4w auto feature. I've test driven both engines and I like them both, so the 4 cylinder will work for me.

[@adamwebber9547]

My original order was a 2dr Black Diamond. After attending Off Rodeo I had do reorder due to getting pushed to MY22. I ordered the Badlands after seeing all the tech from the factory in action. Either would have been great - for me. Love a manual but based on my driving environment, manual will not cut it. Love the washout floors and aux switches - also chose the HD Mod bumper. I'll install floods after.

[@jmoskaly1]

Just found FMC sent our window sticker, only took 9 months but I know there are those who've waited longer and others still waiting. But it's only paper, production is the week of the 29th of Aug 22, so we'll see what sort of delays and opportunities come our way. Thank you Bronco God! 2022 Bronco Badlands, Cautas Gray, Blk Vinay, Lux, Soft Top, Auto 10spd, 35's BFGs.

[@patrickjames7522]

I agree. Get it with the manual and it has the same gears as the Sasquatch package. That’s what I did. If you want to turn into a Sasquatch later on you really just need the 35’s and the larger Sasquatch fender flares. THEN, if you want more power get Ford Performance tune and your movin on up.

[@PBradleyRobb]

If you opt Sasquatch and the 2.7, the Badlands is basically a more capable Wildtrak minus the sticker package. My package pretty much matches the one above, but I got sasquatch and the mod bumper, MGV instead of leather, and also came in at 60k. As far as efficiency, I got 15 city / 19 highway.

[@slingerriggin5226]

You are forgetting Hoss 3.0 for the Wildtrak.

[@ajpere4217]

Is the 3.0 going to make that much of difference to the 2.0? Plus 2.0 is standard on wildtrek until 2023 so 3.0 is optional at higher cost

[@micahrichey5335]

That’s what I have ordered. With the manual you also get the 4.70 gears. All in all, less than $50k! 😎 Also in Colorado, 472 days and waiting…

[@shadetree6705]

Get what you need first, if you have some wiggle room left, get what you want. Don't forget, the aftermarket is loving this rig so there shouldn't be any shortage of parts down the road.

[@dubstep101DUB]

I love my 22 bronco badlands non Sasquatch with 2.3 4cyl with high package with the 360 camera it has everything I would ever want/need

[@Nightryderthebronco]

I have this model with the 4-cylinder with the manual trans. I live in Yuma AZ and have access to sand dunes and any type of trail from easy, moderate, to extremely difficult. I take this out daily into the easy-moderate sand dunes behind my house or to the easy-moderate trails daily in Picacho, Kofa, or any of the surrounding open areas. I have not taken this out on hard trails with big drops or rock crawling. I don't feel like damaging my new Bronco. This performs extremely well in each of the conditions where I take my Bronco off-roading. Picacho State Recreation Area CA and Kofa Wilderness AZ. One video I would recommend is "Chase Gentry - Ford Bronco BADLANDS MT 2.3L | Off-roading in desert / ride-along" - The video takes place in Feb 2021...the Professional Driver that takes Chase and his camera person out gives some great commentary about the performance of this specific model

[@chrisanderson5046]

Great video rundown and thank you. I agree, I think the configuration is a sweet spot, and the 4 cyl. manual makes a ton of sense. While I like the looks of the Sasquatch package, etc. and I could seem some usefulness in serious terrain situations, I wouldn’t run into those situations enough to justify it. Maybe if I were about 15-20 years younger and was always hitting the outdoors. That’s just not my reality.😅

[@applebitefool]

Here’s what I did for my setup: Badlands, 2.7, hardtop, vinyl interior, aftermarket 17x8.5 ET20 wheels with 34s. Thing looks perfect and is quick

[@shitloveaduck]

I had a Badlands 4 door!! No Sasquatch package. It was almost everything a Rubicon is off-road, but sooo much more with the day to day liveability. I took that thing as far as this model as built can go. No problems!! My buddy’s Rubicon, stock, was slightly better off-road in the boulders and very high articulation scenarios. I had the 2.7 and it was definitely powerful enough. I found it was definitely better 0-60 than the Sasquatch version TFL had. I’m around 3600 ft above sea level, so performance is affected some. Prior to this I had a 4 door Rubicon Diesel!!! That’s a VERY nice vehicle too!! I’m only 5’8” tall so the seats were just fine, compared to how they just don’t go far enough back for taller people (6’1” or taller). It turns out, I just really don’t like the 4 doors and if I could still go off-roading without so much pain, I would get a 2 door Bronco. If you drive that vs the 2 door Wrangler Rubicon, there’s a very big difference day to day. The Bronco feels much more stable on the road, rides well and tows fine as well. It’s not so nice towing with the Wrangler 2 door. You can do it, but it’s not as stable, especially in high cross winds like we get here often. I’m perfectly happy now with my ‘22 F150 Tremor XLT level finishing, fully loaded at that level including the Torsen front differential and 2.0 kw Pro Power Onboard. I have a small Rayzr truck camper on the back and it’s my mini motor home. I can then tow my different boats and trailers depending on the type of fishing we are doing! Whatever suits you,,,, enjoy it!! Eh!

[@christiansendra3610]

Just picked up a non-Sas Badlands two door 2.3 in manual. Adding the Throttle Commander from a responsiveness standpoint transforms it from a already capable to a very quick and spirited DD. It’s a no brainer.

[@KonaFocus]

One of my co-workers (a salesman, of all people) Has a Wildtrack on order. He is the type of guy who wants the best of the best and always gets all the goodies. I tried to explain to him that the Badlands would be the one to get if they want everything. He already has plans for new wheels and suspension, so he does not need the Sas pack. So now he is stuck with no sway bar disconnect, and a nasty interior lol I tried to tell him, but he would not listen. Some people are just stubborn. Badlands is the true top package, not sure why Ford insists on marketing the Wildtrack as such. Other than the Raptor of course.

[@superkill30]

Raptor and everglades

[@commanderroddi7742]

8 think I agree witg Andre (2.3 manual and cactus grey, but I'd take a Hardtop. ID keep the interior too) Id love a plug in hybrid though!

[@tomdrummy4984]

Couldn’t they layout the engine compartment so it doesn’t look like a mess ? I think they could

[@robertyoung8289]

I agree 100 percent. There's no excuse for producing such a cluttered mess.

[@ronaldferrisjr]

I agree for the price they could’ve taken a couple extra steps to organize the wires and plumbing then throw a beauty cover over that mess…

[@smarticus6384]

It's a true off-roader. I personally would not want any plastic covers under the hood. I would probably remove them anyways if it had any. But, they might be a must for mall crawling. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@2pi628]

The reason there is no engine cover is because of heat extraction. This truck is designed for serious off road use. With the small displacement engines that they have chose to use massive amounts of heat will radiate from the engine itself(They will become heat soaked very quickly). Truthfully they should have made all of the hoods -- heat extraction hoods like the Bronco Raptor has. If you'll notice on the 2.4 litre it even has the cover attachment threaded inserts in the intake. But they chose to leave off the cover -- for a reason. Some people are unwittingly causing more wear on the engine because they wanted a pretty engine compartment. ---- that is if they drive it hard and it's not just a mall crawler.

[@robertyoung8289]

@@2pi628 Somebody's been drinking the Ford kool-aid again.

[@DirtyBronco5555]

Base bronco(Sasquatch)with manual sway bar disconnects for the win !!!

[@ricwestdoesitwork]

For a daily commuter the 4 cylinder would be I think a better option. I wouldn’t get the upgraded option interior, cloth or vinyl works if you’re going to do some off roading. Thanks Andre enjoyed the review. Love the work you guys do at TFL.

[@christophercarillo6342]

The thing about the upgraded leather seats is it’s the only way to get the 10 way seats. If you value the extra adjustability it’s worth it. I have a Badlands Sasquatch with the upgraded interior and 2.3l 7speed manual. My mom has the 2.3 badlands manual non Sasquatch with the upgraded interior.

[@DestDroid]

I don't know what the upgraded interior option is, but full leather is way easier to clean dirt/mud off of than cloth.

[@adamwebber9547]

@@DestDroid upgraded interior includes leather 'edged' seats, 12" infotainment system, 360 degree cameras and I believe the B & O sound system. Oh, heated steering wheel as well. Problem, at least for the foreseeable future is computer chip and other part shortages. Upgraded option packages, Tow, Sasquatch are all options causing delays in getting 'built'.

[@alexs3187]

Cloth isn’t an option on Badlands. It’s marine grade vinyl or leather (which is only partial true leather anyway). Marine Grade Vinyl is the way to go.

[@adamwebber9547]

@@alexs3187 ya, I hear it's outstanding. I think the Lux gives you the leather trimmed seats...

[@thinde88]

I think Black Diamond is where it’s at. If your going to this level you might as well throw the squach package on there.

[@shitloveaduck]

If you don’t need the Sasquatch package and don’t need to stroke your ego (not saying you, yourself, I have a friend that mall crawls with his Sasquatch 2 door) no sense in paying that much more. It’s cheaper because the main goodies are already there regardless of course. The day to day liveability of the Badlands vs Sasquatch package and drive ability as well, is significant. In some ways the Sasquatch is better, in others it’s the typical trade offs of a lift and much larger tires (fuel economy hit, egress, hit on street performance,,,,). I like everyone definitely supports the to each their own philosophy here!!

[@Nbarri051]

I genuinely like this mans review 🤙🏽 badlands is the way to go

[@aarongerman7857]

everyone discounts the biggest advantage to the sasquatch, the diff regearing. that's a $1400-$2000 job if you do it after.

[@SpaceGhost1984]

On other trim levels, yes. However, the Badlands comes standard with a 4.7 final drive ratio. It also has the front and rear lockers as well as the upgraded suspension. So, the only thing you get by going with the Sasquatch package on the Badlands is a slight lift and 35 in tires.

[@user-qt5eh9wb7g]

and a PITA

[@fullspeedfordbronco]

@@SpaceGhost1984 4:4 gears on the stock BL but close enough

[@mpeugeot]

it's only 5% more gear.

[@ConfirmedPatriot]

2 door manual Badlands with high package $49,000. Going on my 10 month wait. Probably will be converted to a 2023 model if I don’t get a VIN # by October 24 2022 🙄😵‍💫

[@taylorferguson28]

Badlands is def my favorite interior. The all black is so much sleeker

[@outlawedmedia4336]

I got the badlands sasquatch. It's unstoppable. Every obstacle I've seen another vehicle make I can make it with ease.

[@LCRider13]

I had the first year of the new Bronco Badlands with the Sasquatch Package. and sold it. I just got a confirmed order for a 2023 Bronco Badlands without the Sasquatch Package. You don't need it, and it is a waste of money and kills the ride and gas mileage of the Bronco. Absolutely no reason to run 35" tires unless you only do off roading, and I mean hardcore off roading.

[@morningdrums]

I was told by a dealership to think about going with the black diamond or the bad lands with the sasquatch package. I haven't decided. In my case this would be a everyday vehicle and would use it hunting and camping as well as off roading. I will not get soft top. I live where there are heavy winters and safety wise would rather have the hard top. I don't really need the leather. Hunting wise, I'm still not sure if this truck is what I will get.

[@stevevirag8282]

I just got the outer banks 4 cylinder with the sasquatch package I think that's the best trim to get, you get the nice features big screen leather for less then the badlands. The only thing u don't get is the sway bar disconnect. Which I wouldn't probably use anyway, because honestly I'm not going rock crawling anytime soon.

[@steves52]

I have that exact one except in carb grey. Love it and agree.

[@rsdaarud]

Andre, that's a nice sweet point for Bronco models.

[@Just_Joe71]

I got the exact spec you like except mine is a 2 door. Badlands, non sas with optional beadlock, 2.3, 10 speed auto High pkg.

[@LukeEdward]

It’s interesting how everyone, EVERYONE is ignoring the 2-door Broncos.

[@dtw1622]

I hadn’t seen any driving around but there is one parked in my neighborhood right now. It is damn good lookin

[@Gonzo1968]

Two door is the best looking Bronco, and best bang for the buck as well. Configured one on the base model with 2.3 and sasquatch package under 40k..

[@Draz1984]

I think because unless empty nesters or younger 20s which can’t afford this price bracket normally, 4 doors are more cargo and easier access for kids and families to get into. 2 doors are cool and if I didn’t have 2 dogs and 2 kids to transport I might consider it

[@Jpulido91]

Because they can’t be built, it’s easier to get a 4 door soft top. I’ve seen both and 4 door is better for me, more practical

[@2pi628]

@@Gonzo1968 Damn Skippy! The Base +Sasquatch is the bomb!

[@KevinAZ78]

Badlands, 2 door, 4 cyl, 7spd is my favorite spec. As well as the base (with or withing sasquatch). That said, as far as fuel economy goes, the 4 banger 7spd with 4.7 gears (Badlands) is only getting 16 city, 17 hwy. It ain't no fuel sipper. Whereas if you get the base model, 2 door, 4 cyl, 7spd 4.46 gears and smaller tires - you're getting 20 city / 22 hwy. 25%+ bump in economy.

[@willb3018]

I don't know if it is the "best" but it certainly is practical and more affordable than several other options. You have my attention.

[@mikeoneill81]

It’s still about $20k more than I want to spend

[@kenyattaclay7666]

Honestly, for what 90% of people are going to do with the Bronco which is mostly going to be commuting & off roading maybe a few times a year the Big Bend will be just fine. I've been watching a lot of videos of people off roading in everything from a stripped down base to the First addition in both Sasquatch & non Sasquatch and while there are differences it's not so great a difference that the cost would justify paying that extra money. The reason why the Big Bend would be a great option is because you can option up to the Mid package which would give people some creature comforts they may want while using it as a daily driver.

[@bitemefoker]

Only reason I don't like the big bend is I can't get the 12 inch display

[@mikekellum6238]

Since March I have owned a two door Bad Lands ,lux, auto 2.3 non Sasquatch in Cyber Orange. It is “ THE” Bronco model period.

[@pringlized]

I'm currently working on a 6x10 Outland DIY trailer. My dry weight should come in around 2100lbs when I'm done. And yes that does include galley and all that but not yet the interior. I need a vehicle I can tow at least 3200lbs loaded and be able to go off-road (articulated hitch), no crazy rock cragging needed. Just off road, of the beaten trail on bumpy fireroads that may be beat up in the winter. And recommendations of a package to choose? The Bandlands 4-door looks perfect for as long as it meets my tow requirements. Thanks!

[@jagers4xford471]

K02 when slightly warn do not hold well on slippery side hills. I've slid off many a wet rock with the K02. FORD needs to do something about the instrument cluster. Being digital, FORD should offer a number of cluster options you can down load from FORD or have aftermarket make them. Otherwise love the Bronco..

[@ljs2274]

The tac is horrendous

[@marknicholson3755]

Is there an OJ package available in white. Just had to ask.

[@TheBugkillah]

Yes, even comes with a pair of gloves and a knife.

[@JustinKingOffroad]

I've got that 4 cylinder in my Jeep, kinda needs more... That's why I want the 2.7. but of course I'm going on 9 months of waiting here soon lol.

[@ryryshredder148]

Having driven both I would lower your expectations. The jeep is much lighter so the 6 in the bronco will feel the same as the 4 in the jeep. The bronco is not fast in any way. Even the raptor is pretty slow.

[@darrendaine4914]

I have had a Bronco order for 14 months I gave up I ordered a Rubicon

[@williamkincaid7371]

Base Sasquatch for the win. More off road capable for around $45k

[@fullspeedfordbronco]

This

[@jcollins1305]

Starts at 46k. For a two door. With a 4 cylinder engine. Are you insane.

[@gilbertwoodsiii4710]

4 cylinder manual badlands 2 door all I need

[@davidhillbrand2302]

Excellent video Andre.

[@ct181]

I just did my build on the badlands non sasquatch, 2.3 auto, soft top and i believe it was around 54k. It did include the Lux package. I don't do sasquatch or raptor driving anymore. I am into the mall crawling stage of life now

[@Bryan09876]

The Sasquatch package makes the car look better. Has a better stance. I’d also definitely opt for the steel modular front bumper. I don’t like the look of having a plastic front bumper on an off-roader.

[@JackFrost-xy7yl]

I went with a base 2dr 2.3 4 cyl with a manual transmission. Mostly due to cost, didn't want to spend $50-$60k on a third vehicle. I am not rock crawling or mudding. I just want a Bronco, had a 1977 and regretted selling it. I put a 2 inch lift, 35's and a few other options. I love it, my wife couldn't care less. But she was fine with me getting it, so she is a keeper.

[@JeremyHoodDaniel]

Would like the v6 with stick shift. I live in Jamaica and regularly operate on rocky tracks in the mountains. Also, being in salty atmosphere, i would appreciate the aluminium front end

[@keithfoot4762]

in canada, you can't have heated seats with the 4 cyl. or command start with the manual. so your stuck with v6

[@ColJonSquall1]

at least the RPM meter is clearly visible, unlike the normal spot on the Ranger with the Lariat package, lol. I remember Mr Truck complaining about not seeing it on the Ike.

[@tri3pleagent]

Good assessment. I was thinking the Black Diamond was more the sweet spot.

[@mattie3595]

Probably the most logical choice. What most people want & actually need are very different. Really tired of the Ford chimes. Wife has an Aviator ~ which literally chimes its way down the road.

[@willb3018]

Want vs need has always been key in vehicle purchases. Emotions play a lot in these decisions.

[@carperdiem8754]

Badlands 2 door manual is my dream bronco

[@ceaserthemighty]

I’ll never understand people complaining about more choices

[@mawage666]

Paid $28,500 for my 22' 2 door Base. Yeah I don't have lockers or trail turn assist or any of the fancy crap. But I love it and everything I've done to it so far. Getting 35" K02's this spring.

[@marcusaurelius5576]

Would love to see a head to head with a 2014 FJ Cruiser base or trail teams. I have the FJ and deciding whether to move onto a Bronco.

[@user-qt5eh9wb7g]

You should sell the FJ. Lots of soccer moms out there would love to have it....lol

[@wd6919]

The Badlands with Lux package is the exact build we will be ordering.

[@v.maharaj3365]

Agreed. The Badlands is the best model.

[@JoseP-hj5zo]

Now if I can only take delivery . I ordered mine a few days after the Ford web site opened up for Bronco orders . 2 years ago .

[@fritty9927]

That’s some pretty bad MPG for a new six banger. I get 18 mixed driving with my 8 year old ancient six in my FJ.

[@TheNotimprezed]

Yes, but this and the 4 banger Bronco will blow the doors off a FJ while getting those extra couple MPG.

[@fritty9927]

@@TheNotimprezed I guess if your idea of 4 wheeling is racing from one stop sign to another on your way to the mall. Seriously I don’t think peps are buying it for it’s racing heritage.

[@TheNotimprezed]

@@fritty9927 certainly not, but I wouldn't brag that my significantly less powerful 4x4 gets worse MPG.

[@fritty9927]

@@TheNotimprezed who’s bragging. They both suck.

[@rvHotRod]

Completely agree…although I am completely biased since you just described my exact order. Lol! Nice review!

[@kyle-ri5mz]

Black diamond is pretty damn close.

[@MrBill99]

Good review. A little more on why you didn't like the V6. Was it just cost? I also would have liked your opinion on drivability. FYI, in my market, dealers are adding $25,000 on top on MSRP.

[@Bella7bella]

Looking to get one. I am wondering if the issues with the engine has been worked out? How is the reliability??

[@bltinlvnv]

Andre, the part you either forget or don’t bother to mention is this is an unobtainable vehicle, or better yet Unabtainium if that’s a word. I know it’s not. Anyway I reserved the almost exact vehicle vehicle May 6, 2021 Have been switched from a 21 to a 22, and most likely will be switched (re-order) to a 2023. So now you know I have not received a vehicle yet. Ford has removed the Clear Bra from all but Wildtrack, have been told remove Lux package, Tow package (options) Delete 2.7 engine, Delete leather interior, delete hard top all if you want to get vehicle sooner. I have been told yet “ Chips are still a huge problem, BUT supplier issues are bigger then that. I also understand there are people who reserved in the first three months that have not received a vehicle yet. How’s that when I have a neighbor who ordered a Outer Banks early this year and they are driving their vehicle? How is it I know another person who has received not one but both husband and wife have their Bronco’s. Both these people waited about 6 months for one and 8 for the other. Both are well optioned $55K trucks. Maybe you can dig into and find out an answer to the absolute crazy situation of who has or gets one and who doesn’t? Yes my dealer is selling @ MSRP. I qualify for Ford A-Plan discounts but nobody, at least I can’t find a dealer who will honor that.. Thank you as always for the fantastic job YOU and the Gand do!

[@j.r.vosovic1347]

How tall are you? Looks great and one of the best reviews I’ve seen. Thanks.

[@franzvanjulio5523]

I appreciate you showing this option. I’m not sure about the V-6 move, but definitely worth considering trying the 4 cylinder option instead.

[@DrKreiger]

This is my sweet spot too. I want a 2dr hardtop badlands with a manual.

[@willb3018]

When it comes to vehicles I am definitely pro choice. Unfortunately, manufacturers limit choice to drive you to spend more. Even colors in some cases. If they offer a color, for example, it should be available for all trim levels.

[@zonacrs]

Agreed. But out of all of them, Ford is still good about ala carte options at lower trim levels. Try getting a rear locker on a base level truck from anyone but Ford.

[@joshuagagne4167]

Have a 2 door black diamonds with the manual transmission with the 33 general grabbers. 40,000$ sticker with everything you need.

[@adamwebber9547]

everything YOU need... LOL - just kidding - nice truck and great $$

[@BigRed_Grayling_MI]

Great job on your video. We are in the market and here comes the but... The price of this vehicle should be around 38k to 42k as the badlands bronco sits. Ford has forgotten the base customer. We cannot afford a 56k run around town vehicle. This is the straw that breaks the camels back. We would like to buy this package but it will not happen. (I'm a retired Ford calibration Engineer).

[@nlken7175]

Badlands is a nice package but that this engine bay is the worse looking on any vehicle. Looks like a dIY engine swap.

[@Gonzo1968]

Agreed, its a hot mess.

[@B86432]

Id say the big bend but yes

[@dondickman5835]

I picked mine up in Littleton tonight. I got the 4 dr woth badlands lux package. I have towing. I git it woth 7 spd manual and 2.3 l engine. I also have hardtop and marine grade vinyl seats. No sasquatch. I do have 4:70 gears and lockers and sway bar disconnect. I think this is a great set up.

[@zachowens1412]

My wife and I are looking at one of these. Used prices are ridiculous right now. We are considering new but with dealer markups it’s probably still way more than MSRP. If anyone knows of a dealer in Indiana that does not charge a markup let me know.

[@kenzorebe]

Nice review

[@ronpippin4893]

Yeah, I took advantage of a golden ticket for a Raptor at MSRP, but sometimes I find myself wishing I had stayed with my original 2 door manual Badlands order.

[@IzaguirreC]

Probably would still be waiting. My order from a year ago does not even have a production date, only the old confirmation ford order. I also have a MT 2 door, except a base model. (I thought going with less electronics would speed up delivery). I’m going to cancel it and keep my Tacoma, and order a maverick hybrid to have as a commuter to replace our Rav4.

[@NeoS281]

@@IzaguirreC the Maverick is nice but why not just keep your bronco reservation? You might get first dibs on the Heritage model once that gets released. -bronco owner

[@IzaguirreC]

@@NeoS281 it will never get built at this rate, I was told to remove the hard top and accessories. That’s a compromise I don’t want to make. I also found out the color I ordered is no longer available. My order was a antimatter blue.

[@NeoS281]

@@IzaguirreC AMB is an amazing color. My point was that it won’t hurt anything to leave your reservation (unless you had a deposit beyond the $100 res fee). Im sure it will get built once your dealer gets more allocation. Best of luck on whatever you decide!

[@user-qt5eh9wb7g]

@@IzaguirreC When you cancel, it goes on down to the next buyer, which I'm sure they'll appreciate, lol. I was able to get mine super quickly because someone like you was tired of waiting and canceled. I wonder if he'd have still canceled if he knew he only had two months left to wait?

[@ripperx444]

I have the badlands + Sasquatch and the carpet without the drain plug. Anyone know if my seats are vinyl or the leather vynl ... I can't tell with mine. Seems to look like the ones in this review. He said leather but there is only leather and vynil options

[@Unknown2v]

Good morning everyone

[@GeorgeGeo]

THats a nice $35k SUV

[@jakes5530]

Double it, add $5k that’s what these are selling for. Imagine if you got one at msrp, hated it, and got rid of it… easiest $20k you’d ever make…

[@Marco-ce8kr]

How's handling, highway behavior and cornering on road as daily driver? Thanks!

[@findango]

To me, the biggest factor to consider between the two engines is the fact that the 2.7 has both port and direct injection to keep those valves clean. The 2.3 does not. For longevity reasons alone (barring the recent V6 issues), I'd go with the 2.7 even with the fuel penalty. That being said, I completely agree, the Badlands is the sweet spot.

[@chadscott9138]

I’ll run out and throw money at them as soon as I can get the manual on the 2.7.

[@williamconrad1087]

I’m waiting for that too. But I was also waiting for a manual in the TRX which never happened.

[@alexs3187]

There’s no point, the 2.7 isn’t that much quicker than the 2.3. 3.0 maybe. A manual hybrid would be cool too

[@furyroad7565]

The prices you are naming are what they are supposed to cost. Make sure you explain to everybody what they will probably cost at the criminal azz dealerships. I used to have a little bit of a problem with buying and selling cars. Obviously that gets expensive. With everything that's going on now with the fairy tale numbers, that people just apparently make up and see if somebody will pay, have helped me stop that cycle. Sold everything and bought a used car for $17,000 I feel better about this than any Wrangler, truck, Challenger, or whatever I've had in the past

[@christophercarillo6342]

I got mine at MSRP as did my mom. You just have to order and wait it out.

[@williamconrad1087]

And you probably don’t have payments which is the best feeling.

[@2011blueman]

This is the conclusion that I came to. I got the 2.7L Badlands with the MIC hardtop and the tow package, but without the sasquatch package. I was at Moab during Jeep week this year and kept up with all the Jeeps. I think the Badlands non-sasquatch is the perfect roadtripping and off-road vehicle.

[@andrewsbbq]

How's the overall quality? I see videos and forum posts popping up more frequently about below par fit and finish both interior and exterior.

[@2011blueman]

@@andrewsbbq The overall quality of mine is great, especially for what it is and what it's intended to be. I think those posts are from people that had no clue what they were buying, i.e. porsche macan people that had no intention of leaving pavement with their bronco. So for example, the felt liner on the removable roof could have definitely been better (I had been planning on getting the much higher quality hothead headliner before Ford said their headliner would be free). However, it's a removable roof and frankly I prefer that the money went toward things like the disconnecting sway bar that works under load rather than a higher grade headliner. Or the complaints in those posts about the "cheapness" of the plastic dashboard, etc. The point of the vehicle was that I was able to take a wash cloth and wipe out all the sand, mud, and dirt off the dashboard when I've gone off roading. Installing alcantara might have made those complainers feel better, but I prefer that the kids can make a complete mess of the back seat and I can simply hose it down.

[@fullspeedfordbronco]

@@2011blueman the quality of the plastics are shit. Scratches without much effort. Regardless if you buy the 35K bronco or the 60K…you’re gonna get some cheap ass plastic interior