You Don't Talk to TRUE Christians (Like I Am!) | Jerry - MO | Talk Heathen 04.08

[@crowsnest43]

I read a history book that was published in 1985. It accurately prophesized events in 1945. That knocked my socks off!

[@kelownarealman]

Lmao

[@adgdrgar]

He has the power to heal, yet he never does. Such a loving God!

[@MrGoogelaar]

He is afraid to put the doctors and hospitals out of business, that is why he created the viruses and illnesses in the first place...fine planning...

[@mattwaldrup9363]

Never grows back amputated limbs and the devil is always louder and more powerful than him. Funny how that works. Nothing like a super reclusive and quiet all powerful all knowing deity.

[@AttackChefDennis]

"And Cancer is but a bruise to God" and this deity is thought to be all powerful, yet children get atrocious diseases and his believers can become thralls of the most anti-Christian demagoguesince Hitler. Still nothing from the big guy....

[@mattwaldrup9363]

@@AttackChefDennis and he allows pedophiles to be in charge worldwide and their followers to keep them there.

[@realityimage8700]

I was born an atheist. As a youngster I was indoctrinated into christianity. At around age 40 I became a born-again atheist.

[@Sharon-fw9qw]

Me too at 55!

[@yep_2431]

Hallelujah!

[@irrelevant_noob]

rAmen!

[@macysondheim]

I converted to atheism back in 2005 (I know, way before your time) & trust me, these were some of the darkest days I’ve been thru, so thank the lucky stars & the almighty spoke to me one night & thru the spirit I finally was able to see the truth of the entire Universe & returned to the Church February 18th 2021 haven’t looked back since Praise the spirit! May you find the path of enlightenment on your journey ☮️

[@G_Demolished]

@@macysondheimPath of enlightenment 😂

[@vandavang7]

"here's my question for you, jerry, how do you know that?" "well, of course, you have to go back to the bible" priceless.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

Jerry: “I know you can’t use the Bible to prove the Bible”…. then repeatedly tries to use the Bible to prove the Bible.

[@irrelevant_noob]

@@Heathen.Deity. also that "just cause New York is there, doesn't prove Spider-Man... But bible says Babylon, Middle Persia, Greece, Rome..." was priceless! 🙄

[@ryaneichelberger7040]

The look they both give when he says "the common, United States kind of bible" is goddamn priceless. Just the slow realization of what they just heard.

[@ChampionofVardenfell]

The NIV?

[@ChampionofVardenfell]

Lol

[@KristerAndersson-nc8zo]

What do you base that on?

[@timothyfrye5312]

@Toughen Up, Fluffy that's called the no true scotsman falisy.

[@Timbales1979]

Toughen Up, Fluffy Virgin??

[@LeonSandoval]

“I know it seems crazy to prove the Bible with the Bible” was the most sensible thing he said!

[@ecocentrichomestead6783]

"You haven't talked to true Christians " has to be the most popular come back of Christians

[@Arkloyd]

Right after *"You* were _never_ a *true* christian!" when they hear you used to be one of them. With all of these fake christians running around, where are the real ones? For every christian you meet, some other christian will say they're not a "true" christian. Most christians would say that jerry was full of shit for claiming that their god doesn't torture non-believers forever. They would say *_he_* was not a true christian!

[@zhontac6194]

@@Arkloyd they are on the same level of existence as their god.

[@Arkloyd]

@@zhontac6194 Given one verse from the bible, I believe you are, indeed, correct: *1 john 3;6* _NIV_ *6* _No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him._

[@steevrawjers]

EcoCentric Homestead lol true that and yes yes but not all Christians

[@merikijiya13]

I’m not a true Christian! I’m a true satanist though 😈

[@Adam-bb4cc]

This guy didn't come to debate, he came to preach. He doesn't listen to opposition, he just waits for someone to stop talking.

[@janiceschiffman4659]

It's sad what religion does to the brain

[@steevrawjers]

janice schiffman yes it is

[@Kairi091]

I wonder if our species will ever move beyond it...

[@steevrawjers]

@@Maxry-v2y yeah religion fries the brain

[@marie-rosedaly4234]

Something must change fundamentally to get rid of all religions for good

[@user-fo1ow1jq3b]

One hell of a drug

[@TheCheapPhilosophy]

Hi, God here. Though I could give infinite evidence of my existence, to anyone's satisfaction, would rather let a guy named Jerry do it for me. I outsmarted myself by creating this fellow!

[@LuminesBreezer--]

Haha, I'm surprised Eric didn't question the coronavirus. Perfect season opening for the guy.

[@TheCheapPhilosophy]

@IamMe StillMe Ahh, I see: They break the metaphysical quantum resonance and the god looses interest in the matter, or something...

[@zendavesta1027]

Nah, I won’t show up because it might destroy you, the planet, the Milky Way and probly a bunch of nearby galaxies… BUT! You’ll see me in the future, after you die.

[@TheCheapPhilosophy]

@@zendavesta1027 Ho, God here. Even Dr. Manhattan can dimmi his harmful radiation, why can't I?

[@zendavesta1027]

@@TheCheapPhilosophy holy spirit is deadlier, esp if garlic was for dinner 🧄 💨

[@ThePlumAbides]

"I'm not cherry picking, I'm just cherry picking"

[@colinmaclaughlanweir9670]

Cherry pickin Jerry I'm not a cherry picker I'm a cherry pickers mate I'm only picking cherrys because the cherry picker is late I'm not a cherry picker I'm a cherry pickers son I'm only picking cherrys till the cherry pickings done I'm not a cherry picker I'm a cherry pickers friend if we couldn't pick the cherrys it would drive me round the bend I'm not a cherry picker I'm a cherry pickers wife and when we pick together we have a lovely picking fife

[@worshipedwarrior441]

Jerry picker

[@randomjunk1977]

Jerry: "I agree, just because we have New York doesn't mean Spider Man is real! Also Jerry 3 seconds later in the same breath: "Nebuchadnezzar was real so Jesus is Lord!"

[@dx1450]

Well, the bible is different because it was written by God... It's true, it says so right there in the bible.

[@merbst]

@Daniel Johnson I don't trust the imperial government of the Lizard People! This is because they were real dicks to their man on Earth in a show I saw on Hulu!

[@BaronVonQuiply]

When I looked years ago, there were 22 Peter Parkers listed in Manhattan alone (I picked the wrong borough).

[@derekardito2032]

Oh for fucks sake, Dawkins said in his first book one cannot reason with the unreasonable, they do not seem to understand how any can not BELIEVE what they believe, that's brain washing,and truth that the brainwashed never know there are.

[@talitek]

Eric is slowly becoming one of my favourite people to listen to when arguing against Christians. He stays calm the whole time and doesn't let his emotion get into things, which I find quite refreshing.

[@AngryBoozer]

Andrew R Indeed, his composure is truly admirable

[@arthurferns4890]

“God knows how he stays so calm “

[@ericscaillet2232]

Matt is obviously his alter ego as listening to this stuff day in day out will craze you out.

[@ginasalinas2731]

Check out skeptic generation...a new show he started with his fiance.It's great..... Totally unique approach promoting respect and kindness in disagreement. It's been good for me to watch it!

[@bms77]

Yea he’s good for sure

[@johngolden5257]

Constantly hearing “right interpretation, which is mine” argument is so bloody exhausting!

[@ChampionofVardenfell]

"Oh gosh no, I don't want to feed their persecution complex." Bruh. 😂 Eric is ON today! 😂😂😂

[@marysouza1882]

That was great.

[@JanetStarChild]

@ ChampionofVardenfell uh... ...did you just climax?

[@ChampionofVardenfell]

@@JanetStarChild A little bit dude.

[@MonicaHernandez-yn8ct]

Eric is too patient. This guy needs Matt

[@kingjuggalo4335]

💯

[@radioactivetrees9626]

Good cop bad cop dynamic is over done.

[@teresaamanfu7408]

He needs Tracie Harris.

[@johnsperry9494]

“Shut the fu** up” or “no sir, no sir, no sir, no sir, OK, I’m done.” (click). -- Matt

[@andrewsteiner5592]

😂😂😂😂

[@Dracalous1]

Jerry projects so hard he could put on a neighborhood movie night.

[@eveharris30]

Wooosh!

[@robertallan6373]

Ha, good one.

[@sfprivateer]

And he'll most likely play silent movies the whole time and when the audience complains that there's no sound, he'll just say "you're just not ready to listen" ...

[@GabeCoolwater]

"Bible proves the Bible, you just don't understand it and you need to study it better." The amount of patience one needs to hear this is unbelievable...

[@greaper123]

"No true scotsman" is strong within this one...

[@curious5661]

Lot of "moving the goalpost" as well.

[@joesmoke9624]

greaper123 You seem like you’ve been drinking?

[@douglasharris5216]

Joe Smoke and you base this assumption on what?

[@joesmoke9624]

Douglas Harris A joke that many Scott’s drink a lot.

[@johnd.shultz7423]

@@joesmoke9624 Inane Sweeping Humorless Statement!

[@dashriprock9014]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHH. That's the sound of Eric & Darrel's points streaking far over Jerry's head. Jerry didn't come here to discuss, he came to preach. This poor man is beyond help. Such patience from these hosts!

[@felixgraphx]

It was Tesla who said: Anyone can spout out something long and profound. Its very much harder to express something conscise and clear.

[@leslieviljoen]

I can't find this quote, please help.

[@felixgraphx]

@@leslieviljoen I've read it translated in french (i'm french) and this was my 're-translation. I've found it : "One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane."

[@duncanbryson1167]

William Lane Craig? He comes across as erudite and thoughtful, giving careful consideration to to what he says. At the end of day however, male bovine excrement, even when presented in an erudite manner, is still just bull shit.

[@suburban-vampire]

Tesla also believed in eugenics...

[@felixgraphx]

@@suburban-vampire 'beleived' ...?

[@Elusive.magick]

This episode is three years old yet still so gloriously timeless. Thanks

[@jeff-el5ne]

yes im watching in feb, 2024 and kansas city has won super bowl

[@VoiceOfIrrationality]

Eric makes point about "Book of Eric" then asks Jerry a question. Jerry ignores everything Eric said and accuses him of not being willing to listen. I'd call that irony.

[@LoboPreto]

I'd call that the will of god and did you know that Ebeketnezer was a king and Babylon?!

[@derGhebbet]

...also, frustrating and willfully ignorant.

[@VoiceOfIrrationality]

@@LoboPreto The reading of the will happens after someone dies. The Bible is the Will of God. So the fact that so many people read the Bible shows that God is dead.

[@LoboPreto]

@@VoiceOfIrrationality I love it!!

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

@@VoiceOfIrrationality ok I'm a Christian and I have to grant you that was funny.

[@jaymeanderson5121]

This person is considered a functioning adult! 😳

[@topcat2069]

And he votes...😱

[@donnaprather1066]

Yep. THAT scares me!!

[@bodricpriest8816]

Not by actual functioning adults he isn't, just under the law...

[@kelownarealman]

And he votes!

[@glenhill9884]

How ironic that Jerry keeps saying, "if you are not willing to listen", while all the time he never listens. Do other religions have prophecy? They have claims, he says. SO DO YOU! MERE CLAIMS! Does Jehovah Witness have a King James bible? Yes, but it's their own unique version. SO DO FREAKING YOU, JERRY! WHO'S TO SAY YOURS IS THE CORRECT ONE?

[@steevrawjers]

Glen Hill jerry knows

[@Selcryn]

@@steevrawjers we can't assume that, it's extremely possible that he's got a mental wall around that thought.

[@cygnustsp]

JWs only use the king james for the 4 texts that use the word Jehovah. Otherwise they consider it worthless. They used to publish the Living Bible but i don't think they do anymore. Their bible is the New World Translation, which isn't a version, and my opinion is it's pretty damn accurate. Hard to read because it's so literal but it's pretty decent as a translation IMO.

[@markbcrich]

@@cygnustsp However, the NWT is loaded with bias. e.g. they replace the word kurios with Jehovah hundreds of times in the NT, In spite of the fact that there is not one example of a 2nd or 3rd century NT text containing the word Jehovah. Even when the OT is quoted in the NT, it is quoting from the Septuagint, which didn't contain the word Jehovah in it's original production.

[@cygnustsp]

@@markbcrich i totally agree with that, "jehovah" doesn't belong anywhere in the NT

[@AndreJNick]

People like to tell me that "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he doesn't exist" and I always correct them and say "No you're wrong. The greatest trick that gnomes ever pulled was to convince the world they don't exist"

[@BorisNoiseChannel]

Jerry: _"If you read the bible, hell isn't real"_ Eric: _"but how about, when it says ..."_ Jerry: _"well, yeah, but hell is way hotter than thought, and so..."_ Jerry: _"It of course all starts and ends with faith"_ Jerry, later on: _"There's so much evidence given that faith isn't needed"_ And then they wonder why we often find them incoherent...

[@joesmoke9624]

Boris B But, you still watch children’s hour my friend

[@BorisNoiseChannel]

@@joesmoke9624 So?

[@MoonShadeStuff]

I think the "original" bible didn't really talk much about hell, but being away from God as "punishment" after death. The caller could be right with this one actually. The torture stuff was invented later if memory serves me right.

[@joesmoke9624]

Boris B So. Perhaps it’s time you woke up then

[@BorisNoiseChannel]

@@joesmoke9624 Watching children's hour means I'm doing so _asleep?_ Maybe it's time (sic) you started making sense then.

[@Krikenemp18]

Jerry: "You have to READ the book!" Hosts: *point out parts of the book that Jerry ignored* Jerry: "Well you don't have to read THOSE parts, obviously! Why aren't you reading these other parts? You HAVE to READ the book!"

[@irrelevant_noob]

14:57 "you're not willing to re-hear those prophecies... i know you read it but just because you have one interpretation of it doesn't mean you heard it correctly"

[@MMAGamblingTips]

I use to be so hard on him, but damn has Eric amplified his game. Confidence with knowledge and logical arguments. 👍

[@cygnustsp]

Same here, i think he's doing much better these days

[@joesmoke9624]

Insidious Vidz Well, you still watch children’s hour my friend. Time to wake up

[@Drojanx]

@@joesmoke9624 can't exactly wake up if you're not even asleep to begin with. Maybe you should take your own advice, "sleeping sheeple,"

[@joesmoke9624]

Drojanx Of course one can wake up. One can wake up to many things in life my friend.

[@Drojanx]

@@joesmoke9624 Except there's nothing to wake up to as you're trying to imply.

[@Peteralleyman]

He was jerry-picking from his favourite mythology story book.

[@marie-rosedaly4234]

"Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool."- Mark Twain

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

I talked with an idiot who said to move the flood story back 650 years to put the flood before the Egyptian pyramids. He dont understand that it mess with the rest of the timeline. Jesus would have to be born 650 earlier based on his family tree and he couldn't understand the concept.

[@davidt5200]

Religion puts blinders on you and closes your mind completely. I don't think I've ever talked to anyone that was religious and thought that they were an intelligent person.

[@whatsupinspace854]

If faith is belief without evidence then faith is a synonym for gullibility.

[@facundotorres175]

"have a mind as a child"

[@gargamejl]

Dear god, the patience you have...! Like talking to a 4-year old. Hats of to you guys!

[@troystevens1976]

FYI: the bible has far more historical inaccuracies than historical facts.

[@TheMonk72]

@Jim Merrilees things like the census for instance.

[@FallingGalaxy]

In my imaginary world, Europe exists and royal families exist. In real life, Europe exists and there are real royal families. Therefore, my imaginary world is real. That's the logic some people follow in real life, and that both frustrates me to no end, but also saddens me immensely.

[@TheMonk72]

@Jim Merrilees sorry Jim, I was in a hurry and read your original comment wrong. I thought you were asking for inaccuracies. I know, the census recorded in the Bible never happened, or happened at a different time. Exactly as if it was a story passed round from person to person and not an accurate historical document.

[@TheMonk72]

@Gods Servant sorry son, but no. Actual historical records prove that the book is just a bunch of stories. It gets very little right.

[@TheMonk72]

@Gods Servant are you really that stupid or are you just pretending? The Rams kept pretty good records,and they disagree with your book of myths. So do all other records by ancient civilizations.

[@jonesboome4451]

That’s actually how I was about 3 years ago. I believed In the Biblical god and I believed that there was no hell. Then I realized that if people got that wrong in the Bible what else could be wrong? Which lead me down a rabbit hole that ended with me becoming an atheist. So embarrassing... all of the old Facebook posts I had to go back and delete. I was such an ass. I use to argue with people about evolution and say things like “if we came from apes why are there still apes?” (facepalm) I use to talk down to people that were nonbelievers as if they were toddlers. What an ass I was. I deleted all of my old KZbin comments as well. I use to argue with atheists in the comment section of videos like this

[@franciscosustek7249]

You saw the REAL light...

[@matthewarsenault6216]

Prove to me God exists should be the easiest thing in the world never got an answer yet

[@dx1450]

Oh they have plenty of "proof" all right, just that none of it is convincing. What I like to say is, "Prove to me beyond any doubt I have that your god exists."

[@dx1450]

@Steve Ebell Basically what you're saying is to start believing in God and then you'll believe in God. Sorry, but I can't just make myself believe in something I don't believe exists. If God wants me to believe in him, he'd show me some evidence of his existence. He's got to take the first step, I've done everything I can to open up my mind to the possibility.

[@dx1450]

@Steve Ebell OK, sure, but it's been 20 years. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for him to show up.

[@abc456f]

@Steve Ebell Since I was an adolescent, I prayed every night for god to reveal himself to me. I honestly wanted to believe he existed. Once I got into my fifties, I stopped praying. The relationship you have is with yourself. Does god speak to you in an audible voice? How does he manifest himself in reality to you? The truth is, you believe because you want it to be true, not because it is true.

[@abc456f]

@Steve Ebell I don't worship anything. Give me specifics on how god talks to you. And btw, look up what the word "theory" means when used in scientific terminology. You're really quite stupid.

[@reyramirez5710]

And the lord loved us so much that he sent his most simpleminded son to advocate on his behalf...amen😇

[@VogtTD]

"You didn't agree with me without question. That means you aren't listening. "

[@michaelbell3181]

You guys are so patient!

I honestly have a headache after listening to this guy, good grief.

[@jameswade2613]

Lol

[@adithyarajchoorikat9904]

Me too....

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

Eric is the most patient and unflappable cross-examiner I have even seen. He knows he is not going to change the mindset of the caller. But with his patience and occasional, quiet, penetrating question that always sets off another diversionary rant by the caller, Eric invites the caller to confirm his intellectual failings and basic wrong-headedness to the audience. Great job!!

[@p.bamygdala2139]

This caller started out actually conversing, but the moment he felt threatened, he reverted back to his training and stuck to it until told goodbye.

[@arsimckhoi]

Imagine being an employer: Heres a list of my tools for the job. Do you know how to use these tools? Applicant: no. Employer: ill teach you then. Applicant: no thanks i have faith. Employer points finger at the door.

[@phxsunfan]

Yes sir/maam, that's a door.

[@davidszeremi1786]

​@@phxsunfansecurity!

[@littlelostlia1540]

the two people with the most relaxing voices in one room.. damn

[@dieseljester]

"But if you just read the book again, I just KNOW that you'll believe me!" -Jerry MO 2020

[@jonovens7974]

"And God rested...On Saturday"...had to hit pause, I was laughing so much.

[@dobrien51]

Thank the gods that Jerry and his 20 million friends have the proper interpretation of the bible and can tell us all the truth. Seventh Day Adventists forever.

[@averagejoe455]

"Jonah swallowing the man." Nice.

[@cy-one]

r/SuddenlyGay

[@Kairi091]

Because Nebuchadnezzar existed, everything else in the Bible must be true.

[@OldSkullInn]

Oh man, I got my 50 shekels, my neighbors just brought their daughter home from the hospital, we's gonna have a weddin' this weekend! I mean. . . Darn, I'll never be able to divorce her. Boo, anyone seen my cologne?

[@rasta77-x7o]

It was a spaceship in the Matrix

[@cy-one]

@@rasta77-x7o It actually wasn't IN the Matrix but used to travel up to the depths where logging into the Matrix was possible.

[@StratManAW]

This guy is definitely at the center of his own universe

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Starts off by saying faith is required Agrees that faith is belief WITHOUT evidence Then starts saying there's evidence. So if there's evidence Jerry, why is faith (belief WITHOUT EVIDENCE) required?

[@reyramirez5710]

If I ever had a Doctor who started talking like this glue-sniffer...I’d change Doctors.

[@tubeincompetence]

Crap.. I got confused thinking about the TV show Doctor Who... :)

[@amyv8416]

I'd change cashiers. I'd have doubts the person could count my change properly.

[@joesmoke9624]

Rey Ramirez But, you still watch children’s hour my friend. Wake up and smell the coffee

[@xmillion1704]

@@joesmoke9624 - . . . and you're here watching . . . ?

[@alanthomson1227]

Like all glue sniffers his argument came to a sticky end .

[@adams481]

Eric’s voice is so soothing.

[@ozzfest72]

Religious people are a very entertaining.

[@surgicalslinky]

Toughen Up, Fluffy That would be appropriate, their beliefs are stuck in the dark ages, so why not their weapons of choice as well? 😂

[@steevrawjers]

ozzfest72 yes they are

[@steevrawjers]

Toughen Up, Fluffy and voter guides

[@derekallen4568]

That's why I like watching ray comfort videos. The bullshit he spews, I find highly entertaining.

[@bruderk4257]

If ever anybody needs to learn about patience, here it is shown in perfection.

[@averagejoe112]

"I know it sounds crazy" yeah it's crazy

[@steevrawjers]

AverageJoe11 loLLLLL

[@musker4255]

Two topics that stood out to me. The little rant he went about the 7th day (referring to saturday being the holy day). Days were tracked differently in the past. If you were to go back in time and start counting the days using whatever system they used you would not be on par with the current calendar we use, also the US changed to the Gregorian calendar (1752) and skipped ahead 11 days to be on par with it so the 7th day he keeps sacred most likely isn't the day god separated. Secondly the caller says that curing cancer is nothing for god... then why doesn't he do it. He already meddled with humans before in the bible by 'wiping' the entire population (babies included) except for noah and his family, why can't he meddle for good things like removing cancer from those kids.

[@muuuune]

I feel bad for him he's so brain washed.

[@steevrawjers]

Stephanie Brown yes he is I used to be jerry

[@johnfleming5470]

except that he gets a vote that counts the same as your's and that makes me feel even worse

[@steevrawjers]

@@johnfleming5470 true

[@sheezamann2724]

i know this guy....he is about 30, all he talks about is the buybull. Nothing else, i feel so sad for him

[@onedaya_martian1238]

@@steevrawjers Thank you for your comment !! It is so discouraging to think that Jerry is so self indoctrinated as are so many others. Is there any chance you could regress ? Or is it likely that this "enlightenment" is permanent ?

[@SilverSixpence888]

Jerry: the book of Daniel tells us what was going to happen and it did! Every actual bible scholar: The book of Daniel was written 600 years after the events "foretold..."

[@TheHonestPeanut]

"Yes New York is in the book and it's real real but that doesn't mean Spider Man is real. But [ancient cities] are all in the Bible and that blew my mind that that shows Jesus is real".

[@mattc3510]

He’s a seventh day Adventist no doubt I grew up learning all this crap from my delusional parent.

[@wulfbrak3292]

The moment he mentioned that he was a true christian and talked about hellfire, I immediately knew.

[@davidszeremi1786]

Yes they taught me Jesus -day Jews were delusional for ignoring miracles about how their faith was in error. Old testament God didn't pull punches, if he was all knowing he would have shown them what they would believe. If God was tri Omni there wouldn't be multiple denominations or sects following his prophets and there would be followers who never met missionaries. It's as if God doesn't care or even exist.

[@seandmoore6922]

I dug DEEP into the SDA cult. You are correct.

[@davidszeremi1786]

@@seandmoore6922 not much more of a cult then any Christian church

[@grantwing4942]

"Cancer is nothing to him." What a disgusting god.

[@SteveDeHaven]

18:50 "...that knocked my socks off..." I suspect Jerry's socks were never on too tightly to begin with.

[@216trixie]

Good call guys good job. Eric, you're getting better all the time.

[@terryfall8915]

“A myth is a fixed way of looking at the world which cannot be destroyed because, looked at through the myth, all evidence supports the myth.” - Edward De Bono

[@mariabarker2036]

"... the common, United States kind of bible" So many layers of insufferable-ness in that.

[@mollykoi9766]

26:14 all I can think of is the star trek episode where Q says "I've had my powers stripped; I am as mortal as you are, what must I do to convince you people?!" And Worf goes "...die?" 😆 Edited to add, both Daryl and Eric's voices are so calming! Enjoyed the show 🙌🏻

[@VoiceOfIrrationality]

John 3:16 "God so hated the world that he gave his only begotten son what whosoever did NOT believe in him should PERISH and NOT have everlasting life."

[@eveharris30]

We hate your god back!

[@Elusive.magick]

Thanks!

[@James-ye7rp]

Did God exist before the bible? If so, prove the existence of God without the bible, please.

[@savenetneutralityanti-repu7029]

That wouldn't work. They would just point to references of God in ancient writings that predate the Bible. Ancient references to Yahweh and/or God in the near east are plentiful.

Yeah we have lots of books, by people like Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens Dillyhunty etc, so by default we win.

[@VoiceOfIrrationality]

Just look around you. There's pestilence, plagues, natural disasters, disease, monumental suffering on an epic scale. Surely some God is responsible for all this misery. Do you think it just happened by chance?

@@VoiceOfIrrationality Humans and nature caused it all. I think that's what the Bible says in Genesis too. But don't quote me as I'm a new anti-Christian convert.

[@James-ye7rp]

@@VoiceOfIrrationality That's pretty funny.

[@steveOCalley]

I’m always glad when Eric’s on!

[@jerzybala9403]

The Aztecs "faith" involved cutting out the hearts of people.

[@alanthomson1227]

Christianity requires brains to be removed too

[@brucebaker810]

"You have a Qetzalcoatl-shaped hole in your..."

[@SilverSixpence888]

Because agonising burning for a short time is just so much more loving a punishment than burning for eternity. Thanks for your compassion Jesus!

[@laurajarrell6187]

Poor Jerry, (or Gerry), doesn't seem to know that those prophesies were stories adapted after the facts. The bases of the religions were fro Zoroastrian, Sumerian and other mythos, all much older than Judaism. Just legends that were adapted, with the names changed to protect the faith. 😄💖☮️🎃

[@JoshuaWillis89]

Laura Jarrell Eric’s point is that it doesn’t even matter if all of those prophecies and historical references are true and correct. They still don’t prove the rest of the book is true and correct.

[@laurajarrell6187]

@@JoshuaWillis89 Oh, well of course. I wasn't disagreeing, but making an additional point. Some philosophers feel the bible has some literary value, and, for them that may be true. I personally think it, like all other 'holy books' is dangerous and vile. All the abrahamic religious texts, and the Hindu ones, there are probably a few others I'm unaware of, should, in my opinion, only be studied by trusted scholars. They all have the potential of causing the harm they always have. They can be believed and create radical extremists. How to temper this with my belief in freedom, my dislike of censorship, I don't know. I guess if they are taught as ancient fables, though not to very young children? It's kind of like a lot of the children's stories we know today, were pretty horrific in their original versions. A lot of them were teaching fables, especially to teach morals that we no longer consider moral! Like the 'Little Mermaid', the real version is awful! Little red Riding Hood, too. Both were meant to keep 'peasants', and girls, especially, in their place. Holy texts are like that. The Hindu ones teach that just as racist and divisive. The holier you are, the lighter (skin color!) and more beautiful you are. And all the abrahamic texts are as anti woman as it gets! Women are evil, corrupted, well, man is too, but women even moreso, and disposable property. And everything is fixed through blood magic, sacrifices. It is sickening, bigoted and violent. The gods are the most so. 💝☮️🎃

[@jsc5590]

I think the best part of these "discussions" are the comments left after listening...concise, clear, and hilarious. Thanks!! JC

[@paulmadryga]

Okay... so all the others are wrong - but not you, Jerry....

[@steevrawjers]

Paul Madryga loLLLLL

[@johnsonking9211]

Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal

[@JenOween]

I have a neighbour like Jerry. He's a really nice guy, but he's absolutely lost his marbles.

[@jo_b7405]

I love the approach in this show. It seems that the calmness with the hosts is helpful if anyone is going to be open to listening to anything they (the hosts) have to say.

[@merissamakesstuff]

The common United States Bible statement at the beginning made me laugh.

[@topcat2069]

“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.” ― Robert Anton Wilson

[@DJH316007]

"If you're not willing to listen" coming from the guy who isn't listening at all.

[@axl124]

I appreciate Eric's approach to the encounters I've seen

[@davidszeremi1786]

It's a shame he eventually lost his seat in the ACA. We are not immune to disagreement our unifying thread is lack of belief.

[@Timbo6669]

No true Scotsman fallacy always worried me...It renders any new interpretations obsolete.

[@ricardovonkrypton8908]

It renders all alternative interpretations obsolete on the basis of "Because I said so.".

[@Disturbed0neGaming]

19:05 The screen in the background perfectly reflects Jerry's argument.

[@nates9029]

I always love it when people like this point to the prophesies in Daniel as evidence despite the fact that just about every different denomination of Christians have a different interpretation of that same prophesy. Also, the fact that Babylon was the the first kingdom mentioned and Babylon was an actual kingdom doesn't lend any credence to the prophesy. It also said that Babylon was a huge kingdom that ruled over all man and beasts in the world - except Babylon wasn't that big of a kingdom. It also said that two others would rule after Babylon that would be inferior to Babylon....nope, that didn't happen either. The Persian Empire was in no way inferior to the kingdom of Babylon and the Greek Empire did not rule over all the earth. Okay, I guess you could make a case that the Roman Empire was the kingdom made of Iron but even that doesn't fit because it didn't "break into pieces and bruise". It broke into pieces and dissolved and was destroyed. The feet and toes of clay....well, I've heard dozens of different interpretations of that kingdom. The problem is that this prophesy ignores countless other MAJOR Empires that have existed and that controlled far more people and land than many of these other kingdoms COMBINED - like the Chinese Empires, the Russian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Mayans of Central and South America. I mean I guess it is accurate if you ignore all the other major kingdoms. I don't find prophesies in which you have to ignore significant amounts of human history for them to be accurate to be particularly compelling.

[@cygnustsp]

I have a jehovah's witness background. In the 50s through the 70s they published a shit ton of volumes about Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, revelation... all total and complete nonsense

[@markbcrich]

Most scholars believe the book of Daniel was written around 167-164 BCE during the reign of Antiochus. That makes it very easy to talk prophesy when most of the prophesies have already happened before the book has been written. (Edited. I originally wrote the wrong date. ) I'll bet the Watchtower won't do this. lol They just call it new light.

[@nates9029]

@@cygnustsp - Yeah, I have a Jehovah's Witness background as well. When I left they had just come out with a new book about Daniel's prophesies. Yeah, I couldn't agree more, it is all total and complete nonsense.

[@nates9029]

@@markbcrich - Yeah, that helps. Making prophesies about things that have already happened is pretty easy

[@brianfergus839]

I love the look you guys shared when he said he believes in the “… common, United States kind of Bible”

[@arthurfonzarelli9828]

Scary thing is people like this vote and most of. them eat up what the Orange man has to say

[@seanbirch]

@Michael no, he doesn't

[@Timbales1979]

Michael So everyone on the left believes every word of the MSM? Damn, you're painfully fucking stupid.

[@chaptermasterBurnedHand]

I'll never get that time back & Jerry hasn't changed. Good job!

[@davidszeremi1786]

You show them the tools to learn how to argue about the truth and if they bite they eventually learn what truth is

[@michaelmcdowell7096]

Anybody else see the moment the call almost broke Eric? So much running in circles... I feel for yah being able to carry on the conversation

[@sleepisnotnecessary2161]

Wow, Eric. I'm amazed at your patience in this video.

[@janderson565]

Kudos to the host for keeping their composure when constantly confronted by disingenuous, pretentious callers spouting absolute verbal feces.

[@AngryBilleh]

26:29 I can't stop watching the near end part where they talk about the blank book🤣

[@DrMikeE100]

I love people who exhibit full-on indoctrination and insist "But I was skeptical and...." Would be hysterical if not so pathetic.

[@maestrogringo]

Jerry...Jerry...Jerry...Jerry...Eric's voice is so soothing it's almost like an ASMR show! 🤣

[@johntrains1317]

The patience of the guys. Holy shit. That's impressive.

[@nickm764]

Someone once said [paraphrasing] 'It very difficult to win an argument with a smart person but it's impossible to win an argument with an idiot.'

[@gspendlove]

The United States Bible is pretty much like every other Bible, except in our version Jesus loves the rich and hates the poor. Plus he's a Caucasian male with flowing light chestnut hair and blue eyes, a neatly trimmed beard and wearing pure white robes. And he speaks American English, dammit! And he would've loved cheeseburgers, hot dogs, chili fries and KFC if he could've tasted some. 'Murica.

[@ffsno9078]

He also doesn't want us to have free health care.

[@johnd.shultz7423]

But he couldnt have any shellfish....No Red Lobster Restuarants for him...

[@glenhill9884]

Which "U.S. bible", by the way? The Gideon version you find in hotels across the country? The Mormon version? The Jehovah's Witness version? The KJV? NIV? There are a plethora of "U.S. bibles", Jerry! That's one of the major PROBLEMS! You say yours is the correct one. Freaking PROVE IT. All you've done is make claims and AVOIDED Eric's attempts to get at proof of miracles. Shame on you, Jerry. You just violated 1 Peter 3:15.

[@blazerdude89]

@@ffsno9078 socialized healthcare is not free, its payed for with federal tax dollars. Meaning that chuck that gets taken out of your paycheck goes towards said healthcare.

[@ffsno9078]

@@blazerdude89 YAY! I like driving on roads with no potholes, and getting mail, and K through 12 schooling for the little humans, and air traffic controllers so my plane doesn't crash, firemen, policemen, water that comes out of the faucet when I turn the tap, and and and......we already live in a social(ist) Democratic state with a capitalistic economy, all fitting under the umbrella term Republic. So what? When it comes to paying for things through taxes for the general public's use I just think of it as automatic bill pay.

[@richardstevenson3075]

This guy sounds so well-meaning, at least in the beginning, it breaks my heart to listen to him.