You're All Doomed: The Story Of The '80s Slasher Craze

[@43nostromo]

I met Betsy Palmer in 2005 at a Horror-Con in Secaucus, NJ. I was short on cash and there was no ATM, so basically I was just going from table to table chatting with the guests, unable to afford an autograph, and got to her table. We chatted and I explained that I didn't have money for a signed autograph. She saw my US Navy jacket, thanked me for my service and gave me a signed picture with her holding a big knife and she wrote "To Michael: Kill her mommy, kill her!" She was awesome. One of the kindest people I met at the whole event. Very sorry she has passed on.

[@mac888spectral7]

@avery swangoo This story doesn't surprise me at all. Based on everything I've heard about Sean, I don't think I'd want to sit in the same room as him. I recall Wes Craven, who was his good buddy, saying Heather Langenkamp didn't like him at all when he was on the set of Elm Street for a day or two.

[@twomindz79]

@@mac888spectral7 he was joking you fool !

[@mac888spectral7]

@@twomindz79 Oh yeah?? Well...so was I!!! Wait, no I wasn't. Sean is a douche.

[@geeked-outturtlesfan4288]

@avery swangoo He sounds like an arrogant asshole. Sad that he's become so big that he can't appreciate his fan base that helped his most successful franchise (Friday the 13th) succeed. Even Jason actors like Richard Brooker and Kane Hodder (from countless people I've heard from) say that they've always been so kind. The same with Adrian King, Betsy Palmer and other Friday the 13th actors. Sad that he's a douchbag. *His actions sound like he was being arrogant and mocking you so you'd leave him alone.*

[@bonesbrigader]

Awesome story my dude

[@DominusLuna]

I saw Friday the 13th at a Drive-In in Arkansas surrounded by woods that you could see. It was so surreal and the chills were real because you were surrounded by the woods. I don't know what to compare it to. lol

[@joeymorvant161]

Sounds pretty sweet, almost like you're smack dab in the middle of the action. Not that you'd wanna be anywhere NEAR a psycho mowing down private citizens, but, you know...Lol!

[@DominusLuna]

@@joeymorvant161 Yea it was surreal lol.At the same drive-in saw the Alien bust out through that guy's chest. Standing outside in the cold and dark, it was pretty frightening too lol.

[@joeymorvant161]

@@DominusLuna Again, pretty "in the middle of the action" seeming, as it's been said that space is cold and dark. Art imitating life, in this case. Cause you know the back-and-forth with that:"Is it life imitates life, or art imitates life?" Lol.

[@DominusLuna]

@@joeymorvant161 lol. it was a feeling i always remember even if i forget everything else like some old hippie \m/

[@joeymorvant161]

@@DominusLuna 🤘✌

[@cgh7337]

It's kina cute to hear Betsy Palmer talk about taking the Friday the 13th role so she could buy her Scirocco that she wanted.

[@a7xfanforever556]

My buddy had a scirocco when we were youger. A little 5 speed work car. Brings back memories

[@shadymercury]

even more wild, I read that Estelle Parsons ( Beverly, Roseanne's mom in "Roseanne") was originally considered for the role of Pamela Voorhees. I can't see anyone other than Betsy as Pamela, & I'm sad we didn't get to see her reprise that role properly at least one more time before she passed.

[@johnlaslett5339]

Kina?

[@bonesbrigader]

God bless Betsy Palmer for embracing the role Rest in peace mommy Siskel & Ebert were so very much wrong on the slasher film genre , but to be fair they grew up on howdy doody

[@funkyweapon1981]

Roger Ebert had no right to call them terrible, he co-wrote "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls", a movie that no one except film nerds would know about, because it sucked. As for exploitative, that move was also made by Russ Myer, a known explotation movie maker. Critics are hypocrites that are paid by the studios to bash any popular film that they didn't like!

[@RedGreenLugar]

like many movie critics...he was a hack.

[@tacobellalugosi2527]

@@funkyweapon1981 Roger Ebert was the biggest Hypocrites when it came to movies . it was about money like you said when a film studios makes a movie and other studios pay him to talk so much shit . you bet the farm thats what he would do. beyond the valley of the dolls was a fine film ....but not in the way he wanted everyone to view it ....it was a very bad film.. story was nonsence alot of Wtf moments but the reason why it is remembered was because of the T&A and the silly music . and because the two main female leads were playboy playmates .

[@MultiSmartass1]

@@funkyweapon1981 Roger was a film critic and he could call them anything he liked. Citing his sole screenplay is not a valid defense of the genre.

[@MultiSmartass1]

No, their view of the sub-genre was an interesting one. I don't know if I would say that slasher films were a specific counterreaction to the feminist movement. I would argue they continued in the tradition of exploitation largely. So while I think their views are interesting here, I don't agree with that part of their assessment.

[@uglyheadmasks4295]

80s slasher movies were the best ever!

[@colderbeer]

Zero film making talent was needed to make those films.......

[@legneil]

Reason why i think i like big boobs.

[@ricsonsison2321]

Your d*mn right

[@johnmolina8629]

I agree

[@MrIllusionEyes]

harmon duncan Agreed! No one can mess with slashers!

[@r.d.493]

How I miss the days when there were real video stores filled with the scent of plastic and dust and loaded with a whole lot of movies, horror and not, that you might have known were lame, but wanted to see anyway for fun. Those were the good days.

[@joeymorvant161]

Oh, yeah. The cornier the story, the bigger piece of crap it sounded like it would've been, the more you wanted to see it!

[@michaelowenzacchara3963]

R. D. Especially those old-school Mom and Pop video stores, I loved them. An era lost, so sad.

[@joeymorvant161]

@@michaelowenzacchara3963 Totally.

[@z-beeblebrox]

@@michaelowenzacchara3963 There was one in my town that themed every section based on genre. It was so awesome walking through that place, with cardboard stand-ups of exploding helicopters welcoming you into the action movie corner, a cartoon Ray Stantz and Snow White surrounding the kids section, and that conspicuous privacy curtain near the back leading to the adults section lol. Then Blockbuster swept through and everything got rearranged to copy them: dull lifeless isles of CONTENT. Blah! Good riddance to Blockbuster, I'll never miss that corporate steamroller. Oh and Blockbuster would shove all the horror movies against the back wall with barely any marker, like they were embarrassed to even have them. The local place got into it - their October displays were probably the first time I ever heard the Halloween theme, and I remember they dressed up a dummy as Freddy when Nightmare 5 became available (possibly for all of them, but I would've been too young to remember)

[@robertpreston2220]

Yep!

[@kawaiikawaiianimegirl4144]

I love how they never talk about how the killer is often taken out by a woman in the end.

[@Southfloridelphia]

Who doesn't? There is name for that trope (the final girl) because it is so common.

[@kawaiikawaiianimegirl4144]

@@Southfloridelphia I was referring to when all those critics were whining about the movies glorifying violence on women and saying they were anti women when if you look at them they are pretty dang empowering

[@Southfloridelphia]

@@kawaiikawaiianimegirl4144 This video does a really poor example of contextualizing those clips. The main one is from Siskel and Ebert's show Sneak Previews and was filmed in 1980 before most of the movies in this video were made. Most of the movies they were talking about were things like I Spit on Your Grave not 1980s slasher movies. Heck Ebert gave the original Halloween a 4 out of 4 star rating.

[@killerfoxraspberryplays8903]

Southfloridelphia I hate those 2 credits still their child’s play reviews sucked “ bla bla vlad putting children in danger bla bla vla “

[@josephdunlap6793]

Southfloridelphia I think it was around 82 cuz prowler didn’t come out until late 81 I think

[@High_Key]

Really wish I got to experience this decade. Can’t complain being a 90s kid but I have this strong affinity for all things 80s. With Halloween coming up, I’ve been on an 80s slasher spree

[@adamjeffrey4935]

Well said

[@TiffanyRay]

try being a 2000s kid and wanting to experience the 80s

[@rjmacready8830]

I graduated in 1989, and if it's any consolation the 1980's could be overly cheery, bombastic, and phony. Culturally they started well but by mid-1987 the music, movies and other art had stagnated.

[@thomasc6868]

I was an 80s kid. Graduated in 1989. I appreciate it more now, than I did then. I guess I thought movies would always be like that. I long for those days to return. Not many good slashers have been made since.

[@SterlingFogg]

I graduated high school in 1986. I can tell you (from experience) that the 80's was the absolute best decade EVER! Wish every day that I could go back.

[@atrocchia]

I remember in the early 1980s seeing a double-feature at a movie theater of Dawn of the Dead and Creepshow. So much fun.

[@ennbee2051]

Popcorn double feature? Huh? HUH?!

[@physiquegirl]

Omg! I forgot about "Creepshow"! I love that movie!

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

I'm jealous.

[@adamjeffrey4935]

@@fawkkyutuu8851 in theaters I Saw The Exorcist Jaws black Christmas Halloween 78

[@mikerodgers7620]

We saw Evil Dead and A Nightmare on Elm Street together back in 84'.

[@MattSingh1]

Anyone else still sad Wes Craven is no longer with us? For me, his masterpiece wasn't A Nightmare On Elm Street, but rather Scream- the final scene/shot in the film is purely wonderful. The panning camera across the countryside landscape with a brief snippet of Moby's First Cool Hive score then followed by 'Whisper To A Scream' over the credits is remarkably evocative.

[@kaijinu]

He is and will always be dearly missed.

[@richardtheconquerer]

I still think the opening scene in that movie is the greatest in horror history

[@kevinsherman6162]

Although Scream was definitely well done, I am very partial to Nightmare and the fear I had as a 9 year old watching it for the first time. I’m sure it has to do with being a kid and being scared to death as to being much older watching Scream for fun. Love WC

[@physiquegirl]

I was 13 in the theater on opening night of "A Nightmare on Elm Street". I do love "Scream", but sometimes it's just about everything that was going on in the theater at the time too! Lol😜

[@thatonezeldaguy250]

His masterpiece for me is The People Under The Stairs

[@HeyDrJen84]

I love 80s horror movies! There’s no time like it!

[@JB-hl1qx]

Your right about that momma!! 80s slasher films and a bowl of popcorn on a fall night.... PERFECT EVENING!

[@natetsutsumi7363]

LIKEWISE!

[@TheRealest127]

You damn right! 🏆

[@lvdb702]

Miller and Cunningham need to settle this suit, we need a new Friday

[@joeymorvant161]

TOTALLY!!!

[@joeymorvant161]

I miss the days when new Jasons were being cranked out at least once every year, or so.

[@e84fresh]

They need to come to a common ground

[@TheTheme1]

From what I understand Chris Tucker doesn't want to do it which is holding up production.

[@matthewklapmeyer6865]

Me too

[@donl.l.15]

Being a teen in the mid 80s was pretty damn cool! Got to see many of these in the first theatre run. All the others were enjoyed with my buddies and some girls at night on Friday or Sat on VHS or betamax. Man such a simpler time when socialization in person was at its peak not like the keyboard/screen socialization of today! It is severely missed and needed today.

[@benjaminemfinger6545]

I'm only half the way through and I already wish this had been longer. Great job taking me back in time to see my childhood as an adult.

[@damianlatimer6472]

That's how i feel

[@jmcclain8237]

I grew up on horror, metal & rap music, and video games in the 80's. Yet, nor I or any of my friends ever hurt a soul. Funny how that happens. Politicians are so full of shi#.

[@kummakummakummakummakummac8606]

Remember In the 80's Dungeon & Dragons, horror, heavy metal and video games turning kids into satanic devil worshipers. That's what they wanted us to believe.

[@rolandofgilead43]

@@kummakummakummakummakummac8606 yeppers i remember that shit, they still say that kind of shit today about video games, when video games clearly are letting you take your rage out in them rather than on your boss, your wife your gf or your kids etc.. with music i'm guessing you were thinking about that Ozzy song weren't ya? anyone who listened to a song or plays a game, watches a movie, reads a book etc... who kill themselves are gonna kill themselves regardless what they did right before they killed themselves. if they are that fucked up in the head no one can convince them otherwise sadly.

[@TheReelRapNerd]

Speak on it! Grew up on the same thing as a 90s kid.

[@blacknbougie8021]

I've been addicted to 80's horror films since childhood. No matter how scared I was,I couldn't stop watching. Now my 10 yr old is the same way.

[@Clara-ph7my]

I loved being 70's/80's child. My parents brought a vhs recorder early 80's. Many of my school friends used to gather to watch the latest horrors. Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Zombie Flesh Eaters, The Burning, The Thing, Carrie, Friday 13th, The Evil Dead. Such good memories, which I just cannot seem to get that excited/scared rush, like I did back then.

[@jamiehess4211]

It was a great time to be alive. My parents bought a Betamax in '82 (I was 7). A trip to the video store was a special treat and they rented all kinds of cool stuff: Old Disney movies, Star Wars, Blade Runner, Temple of Doom, Stand by Me, Alien, Aliens, The Goonies, etc. Never forgot the creepy horror section and all those covers. City of the Walking Dead still haunts me 30+ years later.

[@vinylhorror]

Everytime I see Roger Ebert blasting horror movies I think the ballz this guy had on him to say what he did after his involvement with “Beyond the Valley of the Dolls” and the other Russ Meyer Flicks he wrote.

[@horrorgorehoundgamesmovier3531]

1980's were a great time to have been alive & experienced the horror genera altogether from Slashers, Creature Features, Gore & The Infamous Video Nasties! They cannot be duplicated till this day attempted but failed. A special time to have been alive & experienced, my heart goes out to the younger horror fans who missed out but can experience it on video! Great Documentary also check out His Name Was Jason & Camp Crystal Lake Vol 1 & 2. Thanks fellow Horror Fan for the awesome upload, Just Subscribed! And shoutout to anyone else who resides in the great state which is the birth place of Friday the 13th & home of a certain Tromaville Superhero.

[@joeymorvant161]

Truth. Even our local FOX station had tv horror shows 7 nights a week: Mon-Thur it was The Twilight Zone, Fri was Friday The 13th:The Series, Sat was Dracula:The Series, Monsters, Tales From The Darkside and Freddy's Nightmares, and Sun was War Of The Worlds. In the mid-90's, Saturday nights were Tales From The Crypt. But, alas, good show though it was, the glory days were over, and TFTC was the sole horror program weekends on FOX.

[@cgh7337]

You think you're a zombie. You think it's obscene. Some monster magazine.

[@horrorgorehoundgamesmovier3531]

@@cgh7337 Great Reply. Love the rhym6 & hakau!

[@mkproductions2.0]

@@joeymorvant161 Awe I remember that as a kid in the 90's. I watched TFTC but the others I could not watch cause I had to go to bed cause of school.

[@joeymorvant161]

@@mkproductions2.0 Great times.

[@sfeliciano1984]

I grew up on horror films thanks to my dad. 80s horror cannot be topped. I watched all 3 in search of darkness. Now this is added.

[@mikecarr8915]

47:58 When Freddy Kruger makes a tv slot like Hulk Hogan 😂 80’s Horror was the best especially the slasher genre!

[@bighanky8919]

Hell yeah man I like 80's horror

[@funkyweapon1981]

That was on my parents' screener copies back when they owned a couple video stores!

[@mikecarr8915]

Sean Ashmead Sweet!

[@hellion7514]

Exactly what I thought when I watched it! 😂

[@Z3RO5286]

80's horror is the greatest horror era.

[@kevinclayton9891]

For those of us that grew up in these great times, this documentary was a treat

[@hoopyy782]

Siskel & Ebert with the most boomer take I've ever heard.

[@live_free_or_die7260]

They are just trying to get laid. They really loved the films.

[@bobblueford]

I bet they both hated women and wanted to torture them. And then tried to cover it up by pretending to be pro women's movement. A pair of phonys.

[@peterkrug4124]

My personal top 10 favorite 80s slasher films: Friday The 13th The Burning Hell Night The Prowling My Bloody Valentine Bloody Birthday Sleepaway Camp A Nightmare On Elm Street Silent Night, Deadly Night Childs Play

[@kummakummakummakummakummac8606]

The burning scared the sh*t out of me as a kid. I just commented above how I was so scared I couldn't even go upstairs in my house. During daylight. Lol. Plus HBO played it over and over again all day long every couple of days.

[@mikerodgers7620]

Child's Play, A Nightmare on Elm Street, My Bloody Valentine, Sleepaway Camp are the best examples.

[@SpamCentralStation]

Yeah, Gene & Roger... pay NO ATTENTION to the fact that in these SUPPOSEDLY anti-women slasher movies (1) all of the "MALE" victims who also keep piling up and/or (2) that it is almost always a "FEMALE" character who not only survives at the end but also is often the one responsible for bringing the killing rampage to an end by defeating the murderous villian of the story. -- _(Ahhh... the "REAGAN '80s"!)_

[@funkyweapon1981]

The studios paid them not to bring that up.

[@Blondie472]

Gene Siskel is said to have asked John Waters to show him a snuff film. Oh the irony..

[@stvnsvids]

@@jackshittle yeah, fuck Reagan, and fuck Reaganomics...LONG LIVE slasher films, tho! (Halloween was my personal favorite) :)

[@mikerodgers7620]

@@stvnsvids Reaganomics was why many slasher films came out, you bum. Making money from a gamble.

[@gunnerdoo2573]

Why did you put male and female in quotation marks lol?

[@parkercadie1]

I actually met Harry Manfredini at a convention in Los Angeles, and because of this "Friday" doc that I saw, I said, "Hey, you're the guy who did "cha cha cha". LOL

[@GusFogle]

It's "ki ki ki ki ma ma ma" not "cha cha cha". Everyone get's that wrong lol. Taken from Betsy Palmer saying "Kill her mommy": ki ki ki from "kill" and ma ma ma from "mommy".

[@ill232]

that was actually alfredo casero

[@timstephens7910]

It's time to bring back the slasher genre. I love that American Horror Story is going to go back to the 80s in the new season. I was born in 94 but was raised on all the horror classics. Thank you dad for showing me the genre.

[@killerfoxraspberryplays8903]

Tim Stephens I was born 2001 but I r always been a huge 80s and 90s horror fans

[@jarmelo2006]

Shawn really helped me when he said,"We had no idea how we are going to do any of this stuff", 7.32. people we don't need to have all the answers to pursue our dreams. Go for it, work hard. Make dreams come true.

[@ricosalvaje5802]

Siskel and ebert ask why there's so many horror films. Here's the answer because they make a lot of money and are very low budget and quick to film.

[@joeymorvant161]

And we fans can't get enough!

[@ViktorKruger99]

It is crazy to think that even today, you can make a horror movie with a low budget and have a success.

[@ricosalvaje5802]

@@ViktorKruger99 yes, Halloween 78 had a $ 300,000- 325,000 budget and made $60 - 70 million dollars Friday the 13th (1980) was a $500,000 budget and made close to $70 million. These movies make tons of money. The studios treat the films like garbage with little to no continuity meanwhile with some thought and care they can make money off these fims every year. Sorry for the long reply.

[@ViktorKruger99]

But what about a recent example? The Curse of la Llorona made TEN times its budget, an universally reviled movie that didn't lost money for the studio. The horror genre is still going strong after all these years.

[@joeymorvant161]

@@ViktorKruger99 Indeed. I, for one, am happy about that!

[@skunkrocker]

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that I'm the only person who recognized the background music... it's the opening titles to A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child. Seriously, that film had an underrated score.

[@tennektrey5227]

Used to watch all the slashers on cable all through the 80s. Best of times, wish I could go back to those days.

[@marcusashley3428]

I think the very first Halloween was the scariest of the bunch, i remember seeing as a kid ihad to sleep with the light on for weeks! !

[@paulvoorhies8821]

I’d go with its direct predecessor and source of inspiration, 1974’s Black Christmas.

[@tonymartinez5567]

​@@paulvoorhies8821the phone call scenes in black christmas are so freaking creepy

[@jonnstoffer]

It's documentary's like this that make me happy and proud to come from the 80's

[@markvandoorn3646]

I love the 80's slashers!!

[@joeymorvant161]

Myself!

[@bighanky8919]

Hell yeah me to 🍻

[@paulvoorhies8821]

I prefer 70s horror personally

[@ImmortalChaos]

Damn, young Betsy Palmer was a dish. I love how everyone interprets the Ki, k,i ki; ma, ma, ma sound from Friday the 13th. Man do I love 80s slashers.

[@eduardo_corrochio]

Sometimes I ponder about what movie audiences in 1980 might've wondered what that sound was saying, and if they thought it was actual/complete words. Like, "chew, chew, chew ... pop, pop, pop" LOL! Harry Manfredini really created something unique, just using a couple of syllables from the dialogue. It is quite a chilling albeit peculiar sound.

[@dwaynewhite1669]

To this day I find it hilarious that Roger Ebert became a film critic who often despised horror movies for exploiting women; when he wrote Return to the Valley of the Dolls; which was a T&A fest throughout.

[@bobblueford]

I know, right!!!

[@skottyo]

I was 10 in 1980 and these slasher flick TV commercials scared the hell out of me!! My imagination was running wild to begin with, just add these TV trailers and many sleepless nights and nightmares.

[@brdarlin]

that trailer for ANOES3 Freddy sounded like Hulk Hogan cutting a promo haha

[@rebeccahopkins9522]

Couldn’t picture anyone other than Robert Englund as Freddy. And Heather as Nancy. The Elm Street movies never scared me (for real terror it’s got to be The Exorcist). But I enjoyed them immensely-the acting is actually excellent, the writing very original, and I’ve always loved the mythology of the story; Freddy is very unique in the slasher genre, really one of a kind. I actually remember that contest on MTV too; wonder who won it?🤣😂

[@killerfoxraspberryplays8903]

Rebecca Hopkins chucky always been my favorite slasher and he has a lot in common with Freddy really being the wise cracking killers

[@autobotstarscream765]

@Dench2020 How are cuckoo demons _not_ scary?

[@jdonner3272]

Weird how there was so much hysteria during this period of time and now it seems "innocent" compared to today.

[@jmromero6381]

Yeah, cuz they shoot people now.

[@javi__...]

Crazy how the creators of friday the 13th arent even responsible for its most enduring image

[@louslugga9887]

I miss being a kid in the 80s

[@n.emilioaviles]

Fascinating study. I count myself in the cult audience for slasher pictures. Intriguing was Craven’s source material for the “Nightmare” story. Looks like great material for its own movie series. Attention Cambodian filmmakers!

[@scottakanumba1heathen379]

Love Sleepaway Camp 2 as the thumbnail pic! 💗

[@mikerodgers7620]

Part 2 was trash. First 1 much better.

[@legohorrorvideos]

@@mikerodgers7620 they’re allowed to like part 2. No one asked for your angry feedback.

[@mikerodgers7620]

@@legohorrorvideos I never said they weren't allowed to like part 2. Part 2 is trash.That is all I'm saying.Now shut up and go away

[@skooliemom]

The ending of Friday the Thirteenth actually put me in shock. I was a preteen, spending the night at a friends house. My friends Aunt was watching us and I wasn't allowed to watch scary movies. When Jason jumped out of the water at the end..I went white and felt cold, and every gory scene came back into my head. I was in pretty bad shape for about a week. Looking behind doors, lights on all the time, my mom had to sleep with me for days. I love horror movies now.

[@joeymorvant161]

I wish I would've been scared by it. With the exception of the 1st two "Poltergeist" movies, which came out when I was 11 and 15, I was terrified by scary movies. Didn't start digging them til I was 17 or 18. Anyway, "Friday The 13th, Part 1" came out when I was 8. By the time I started digging them, it was up to "Part 8"!!!!, lol! Anyway, since I took so long to adapt, by the time I started watching the "Friday The 13th" movie series, I knew about the jump scare ending, by hearing about it from other kids!

[@paulvoorhies8821]

It’s a ripoff of the end of 1976’s Carrie.

[@livetorek4723]

You know whats sad? We will never see this level of creativity, talent, and drive in the movie industry ever again. These guys literally set the bar for horror movies and I doubt it will ever be topped, I feel CGI and capitalism ruined the horror genre. They did so much with so little, if they ever see this comment THANK YOU

[@joeymorvant161]

Once, on an episode of "Step By Step", Cody referenced a (fictional) slasher named "The Dude That Everybody Made Fun Of". I found this noteworthy because 1. The bland, common-seeming title. 2. The aforementioned title also served as a common plot point of many slashers. 3. It's inclusion in the program reflected horror's seemingly being everywhere in American pop culture at that point. Truly a great time to be a horror fan. Though, as with everything else I enjoy, it's huge presence at that point was incidental. At this point, it seems to have made somewhat of a comeback(although nowhere NEAR approaching it's late 80's\early 90's zenith; that was it's peak, although it had been building for YEARS), but even if it went back to obscurity, I'd still dig it.

[@MrBoyYankee]

Sounds like the joker and slaughter house high.

[@joeymorvant161]

@@MrBoyYankee You mean "The Dude That Everybody Made Fun Of"?

[@MrBoyYankee]

@JoeyMorant yesss especially with both independent and mainstream horror. Now mostly with cultural significance and undertones both political,gender, class and race related

[@joeymorvant161]

@@MrBoyYankee Terror Train could also be thrown in with the "nerd getting revenge on those who wronged him years earlier" list of films. As for your 2nd comment, I really enjoy the Jordan Peele films(2, so far). Not only is he bringing in fresh ideas, stuff that nobody else has ever thought of(or if they had the same or similar ideas, they never released them to the public) or tried, but he is giving black people new focuses and purposes and roles in horror movies, as opposed to the ones that any avid horror fan can tell you that they usually get. It's inspiring and refreshing.

[@WhoTookMyMirr]

Seeing all the commercial tie ins with Freddy Kreuger was one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen

[@stevenlennon12]

siskel and ebert say its a backlash on the womans movement. such BS. the films were cheap to make and fun to see.

[@Hammerhead547]

What they were really bemoaning in that video was the final and deserved death of the old studio system that had completely monopolized the industry from the 40's until the late 70's/early 80's and had shut out most independent film makers unless they had friends in high places or were willing to compromise their vision to get a movie made. They really hated the idea that nobodies with their own ideas who were willing to work cheap could make produce movies that made millions at the box office, everything else was just a lot of pseudo-intellectual philosophizing and moral grandstanding.

[@joeymorvant161]

I could really give a rat's ass on ANYTHING critics have to say on tv, movies, cds, books. I rely on my OWN taste. Now, I know this has nil to do with the original poster's point. But, being that critics were brought up....

[@yvesturgeon9585]

Did they actually see the movies they're talking about?? In Friday the 13th..Prom Night. Terror Train etc.. the victims are at least 50% males so fuck this " violence towards women " mumbo jumbo

[@colderbeer]

@@joeymorvant161 What taste ??????

[@joeymorvant161]

@@colderbeer Whatever.

[@greynite1]

The hilarious thing is I grew up during this time and I feel like I only really heard the bad stuff, I never understood or heard how much money these things were making until much much later. These things became such a ridiculous mainstream hit. Freddy, Jason and Michael to this day are still absolutely famous in the mainstream media and everybody had some experience with them even if they haven't seen the movies. This was an awesome Documentary thank you for doing it

[@dionst.michael5818]

Black Christmas will always be my favourite slasher. It was the first AND being Canadian I can’t help but be biased. It was the epitome of the 70’s era. Still holds up today. Incredible atmosphere. So creepy

[@AstralPixie]

Yeah, great cast. It's a classic. Not a slasher, but have you watched Brian DePalma's "Sisters" with Margot Kidder? It's also a fun, scary movie.

[@aprilskutt974]

I love Freddy Krueger! He's my favorite villain. The bathtub scene in the 1st movie kept me from wanting to take a bubble bath for a week. I took showers, but not a bubble bath. All I could think of was that glove coming up out of that bath water.

[@docd-monik4380]

Its the early 90s. Im 10 years old, at the video store with my grandmother on a friday afternoon in the fall. I know what I'm looking for...I walk around the store until I see an aisle full of black covers with red lettered titles in various blood-spatter and heavy metal style fonts. I smile ear to ear, having found what Im looking for: the horror section.....26 years later I'm writing this just before I hop in the shower and get ready to go to my seasonal 2nd job...scare acting at a haunted house...some things never change

[@RainBird88x]

Shows that 'outrage culture' isn't a new phenomenon.

[@robdilauro4344]

The new season of American Horror Story should be a tribute to Siskel and Ebert.

[@MM-ig1iv]

I still watch them today... matter of fact I'm watching Halloween 2 right now...lol grew up with this stuff and they will always be my favorite movies.

[@sandraweilbrenner67]

The best decade for horror ever

[@goldentaco4970]

Thank you for including that part with the short shorts at the end.

[@Blondie472]

I love the utter disdain that Siskel and Ebert had for slasher movies. Of course, it only made these films more sought out and more popular. Some would later even champion the bad reviews in their promotions..

[@chemicalreaction7788]

Great video. These never get old to me

[@JayEss414]

Fantastic documentary. The 80s for me were heavy metal and horror films.great fun.Heather Langenkamp is so....dreamy.

[@chrisb.1214]

These movies betray violence against young women and portray women as just hapless victims??? I'm a big fan of the 80's slasher films and I don't think I've seen a slasher movie that depicts just young women only being killed. The remaining survivor/heroine that fights back are always 99% of the time female. In some of these films the killers are females like the original Friday the 13th, Curtains, Urban Legend, Happy Birthday to Me, and Scream 4. As a true connoisseur of the slasher genre I would have to definitely disagree with the critics assessment in this documentary.

[@mattsaracen7]

Apparently the clip this video uses is from 1980 or something like that, before most of these films came out

[@thedeepcutpodcast]

Excellent job dude! We love championing the forgotten slashers at 3B Video!

[@antoniobrooks474]

Really interesting the entire cast and crew were against bringing Jason back for the sequel and using the hockey mask

[@istartedajoke1704]

Yup he didn’t even have the mask untill part 3

[@paulvoorhies8821]

It all started, in North America at least, with 1974’s Black Christmas, which directly influenced the creation of Halloween.

[@HorrorMetalMaestroRedrusty66]

love my slashers, my favs being, FT13th 1-5, Halloween 1-2, Prom Night, Happy Birthday to me, April Fool's Day, My Bloody Valentine, Hell Night, Silent Night Deadly Night, NightmareElmStreet 1-2, Night Warning (aka Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker), Terror Train, Sleepaway Camp. Have spent long searches on Ebay trying to fill my dvd collection, some are so rare to get a hold of. .

[@malako777A]

damn... 40 years later the audience is so numb the only thing that works are jumpscares!

[@jayhi5479]

@Smokeanaut Exactly!

[@dylantheelite1784]

That and motion picture companies are afraid to put out something new and different

[@malako777A]

@Smokeanaut yeah, and all comes down to money... if the "trend" is jumpscares this is what makes money and producers want that big old fat paycheck. this is probably why we're all in sequels hell too.

[@funkyweapon1981]

@Smokeanaut Dinosaurs all of them.

[@johndez5213]

Yeah right. Jumpscares dont work for shit, what are you smokin

[@starpilotalliance]

47:00 Freddy is doing his WWF (WWE now) impression.

[@RoyceLovesHisShotgun]

My fondest 80s Slasher memories are catching 'My Bloody Valentine' and 'Dark Night of the Scarecrow' on the 11 o'clock Late Night Movie on one of my non-cable channels. The opening of the 11 o'clock Late Night Movie had music from Jefferson Starship 🤣

[@AstralPixie]

"Dark Night of the Scarecrow" is a tough one to watch.

[@thatspookyfeeling]

Brilliant Video. Something about the 80s rocked. I love the Midnight Hour, a non slasher comedy horror that also imbodies the 80s feel. Of course that doesn't mean that Freddy Kreuger isn't my hero because he definitely is! Morticia

[@piranhaowner1967]

I love that movie gem too… watch it even when it’s not Halloween ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@screamrad218]

I was watching your channel through Quarantine. So obsessed and love your channel!

[@bartsimpson83]

The first slasher film I ever saw was Scream. I was 14 years old, it was Halloween night, I was in the house alone, I watched it with the lights off and it scared the bejesus out of me. It wasn't long before I rented Halloween and Friday The 13th and at that point, I was hooked on horror movies for life.

[@AwareWolfOnWheels]

Scream is a parody movie, not at all part of the slasher genre.

[@paulvoorhies8821]

@@AwareWolfOnWheels. Of course it’s a slasher, dumb ass. It was a parody AND a real slasher.

[@Punisher6654]

Loved the 80's horror movies.

[@crashers17]

R.i.p Betsy Palmer.... An horror movie icon for sure!

[@hakeimwatts6987]

My mom got me hooked on horror movies my first movie was notld68 even though I was born in 1978 then Friday the 13th after that I was hooked on the low budget movies of the 80's loved the practical efx and gore thank you mom and the horror genre

[@adagiobreeze8493]

I heard these movies thrived through the late 70s - Late 80s cuz there really were active Serial Killers terrorizing American suburbs and Americans cathartically lived through these movies to cope with the real world anxieties at the time.

[@mark_beastpriest5539]

I remember working the midnight shift at Walmart years ago, and we operated on a small crew. One night, I decided to be a wise-ass, and got on the store's Intercom system. I did the Friday the 13th "chi chi chi cha cha cha" sound effect, and scared the hell out of the whole crew! 🤣

[@themisfitowl2595]

Horror is built on two factors: one the adrenaline rush of being scared yet still in a safe location. This is the same reason we ride roller coasters, that rush is what makes it fun for us. Two: a good horror film has a psychological lesson behind it. Many horror films showcase parts of the human condition that may not get discussed because of the subject matter. For example Friday the 13th was the horror of a parent losing a child, and the insanity of that loss. Nightmare on Elm St was about bad parenting. All the parents in Elm St are terrible! Freddy was there to punish those parents by targeting their children. A lot of cheesy cheap horror movies tend to be gorefests, full of blood and effects designed to shock the audience. The truly memorable horror movies stay with us because they offer more than just the gore. Edit: One more thing, a good villain. Every great horror film has a really colorful interesting threat or villain in the story.

[@cattycats4]

nmoes is not about bad parenting! its about being haunted by making the wrong choice (burn someone alive) no matter how justified it may seem (child killer who just avoided jail on a technicality) they hunted him down and burned him because he was murdering their children, in typical films an evil deed against evil is often seen as good, in nmoes its more realistic in that an evil deed just makes things worse especially in your dreams, its another layer that people recognize without it having to be explained in the film that makes it a more effective horror than others

[@themisfitowl2595]

@@cattycats4 Look at the movies again. Nancy's mother was a drunk, and her father was too busy working to really be there for the family. Jesse (second movie) had an abusive authoritarian father. Kristin (third movie) her mother brought home guys every night. Alice (fourth movie) drunk father who was verbally abusive after the mother died. In the case of the second movie, Jesse's family moved to Elm Street so his parents had nothing to do with Kruger's death. They moved into Nancy's old house which is why Kruger targeted him. Even in the fourth movie, Alice's father wasn't involved as the incident was now so long ago that these were new kids Kruger was trying to get to. I could go on but I hope you get the picture. Basically all of these parents were awful to their children and families in general, all of them either called their own children crazy, in some cases put them in a mental hospital, and none of these parents bothered to listen when their children were saying something was wrong. And despite these kids clearly calling him Freddy Kruger, the parents who did kill him, hid their knowledge of him and pretended he was made up. The bad parenting aspect even goes as far as Freddy's Dead the Final Nightmare where it's Kruger's own child in the crossfire, as well as Wes Craven's New Nightmare where the child's deteriorating condition is being routinely dismissed as caused by bad parenting via Heather. Trust me, those movies are about Bad parents. It's a theme that has been prevalent in every Freddy Kruger movie made, including Freddy vs Jason.

[@cattycats4]

@@themisfitowl2595 your observations arent wrong but in my opinion its a bigger picture than just bad parenting , were the parents bad parents before they torched him? we dont know but their hand was forced by the murders and the bad parenting angle is in my opinion a symbol of them carrying the emotional baggage for committing murder to save the rest of the children of elm st as it is always tied to the original trauma of before freddy was burned and how murdering him doomed them to never be at peace in turn neglecting everything thereafter , its easy to say its about bad parenting but it goes no way to explain the origin of the bad parenting which was freddy being a serial killer wiping out half the towns kids before the arrest was botched etc, my point is the origin story has always carried weight, theres always been a clear cut good vs evil in the films as referenced by freddys birth being by 1000 maniacs and of a holy nun, the parents constantly haunted by their choice to enable evil in their own revenge which only enabled something far worse - dream demons. the bad parenting is in my opinion just good continuity

[@themisfitowl2595]

@@cattycats4 Hmm maybe. That begs the question though, what baggage was being carried by the parents who were not involved with Freddy's murder then? Since not all the parents were part of that crime. So if Freddy was only punishing the ones who wronged him, he would have been done by the third movie. I can agree that we have different interpretations though. True art always leaves different impacts on different people.

[@cattycats4]

@@themisfitowl2595 thanks for your replies , a good conversation, you make excellent points Id have to rewatch the first 5 to refresh my account of things and the tv series as it definitely had an episode that covered freddy pre burning, I think anything after nmoes 5 might have some contradictions to the original storyline, although the series for the most part is worth compiling what is canon as it is a work of art. all of the ghostly children are from before freddy was burned and the appear quite often in the first few films its fantastic how such a major tragedy that occured in the history of the films is never really detailed at all other than a few fleeting moments (nancy being told she used to have a sister etc)and yet seems to be the driving force of the supernatural and the rest, it allows the films to stay in the now rather than reminiscing and adds a mystery to the story, I just wish they kept up the horror angle after the 5th film but it turned cartoonish in the 6th and after which they kind of got away with in the 4th film, new nightmare was a return of sorts but it was almost too ambitious for its own good having very bold ideas of further warping reality to fit into the nightmare but it failed as it is largely an uneventful film where not much happens aside from the ideas, i think its still great but hard to know how it fits with the rest as far as canon goes

[@infernoshrimp]

Awesome compilation! Thanks so much for this

[@LanceSolo72]

55:38... never noticed before how she got shot in the right butt cheek... but then holds her left... had to go over that scene a few X's just now to verify ;)

[@MrRobjs83]

👍 👌 😎😈

[@crystalshaw8744]

My dad took me to see most of my favorite horror films and A Nightmare On Elm Street was one of them.

[@buzzcrushtrendkill]

It's refreshing to hear the Friday the 13th screenwriter be so honest how he basically copied many of the aspects of Halloween. Something about everyone realizes already, but it's nice that he wasn't trying to convince anyone that it was all original and had no connection.

[@bentramer682]

I'll probably make a slasher film for my film school project and get in trouble.

[@GregMuniz7]

Richie Tozier do it please maybe it’ll be a success

[@p.d.l7023]

Go for it.

[@jonbourgoin182]

Richie Tozier beep, beep, Richie

[@thenostalchica]

Jon Bourgoin I’m watching the original IT right now, and Pennywise just said that. It’s my favorite line in the movie 😅

[@toddgarver5397]

Make sure it has alot of frontal nudity

[@patrickmcpherson97]

My favorite part of the first Friday The 13th was without a doubt Betsy Palmer. I loved her performance the first time I saw it.

[@paulvoorhies8821]

Agreed!!

[@BlackBleedingRoses53]

The first time I ever saw Friday the 13th was when I was 14 on the last night of my orientation as a CIT at a girl scout camp before the campers arrived the next day. After, at around 10:00, the training counselors decided we should do a camp out at one of the sites that wasn't used anymore because it was so far away from the other campsites. It was just the other 3 CITs, the main training counselor, and I alone in the furthest corner of the camp from the rest of the counselors. I couldn't fall asleep because kept waiting for someone to show up in costume to spook us but it never happened. When I said something about it the next morning, the counselor we were with just said "Damn, that would have been a real good idea! Maybe next year." I wasn't able to go the next year to see if they actually tried pranking new CITs, but in my heart I want to believe they succeeded in scaring the heck out of a new batch of 14 year old girls.

[@billyray5232]

It's sad & pathetic how these "critics" whine and complain about Horror films back in the day...not knowing about the epidemic of mass shootings that would take place in the Future...and how there would be massive lack of people wanting to speak up against Gun control and Gun violence....

[@christheghostwriter]

I had such a huge crush on Heather Langenkamp. She was gorgeous, great smile, great hair, but looked like an actual human, like someone you could pass in the high school hallway on your way to class. And she wasn't an idiot, in the original NOES, she was the smartest character in the movie

[@seagrey75]

Italian 80's horror movies were also good! Too bad that all that legacy is lost now.

[@kforcer]

Siskel and Ebert name I Spit on Your Grave as the worst and yet the killer in that is a woman who avenges herself upon the men who wronged her. And they ignore the glaring fact that male protagonists or even survivors are a rarity in these movies.

[@joeymorvant161]

I have Jason on "The Arsenio Hall Show" taped somewhere on VHS.

[@MrBoyYankee]

That's on KZbin.

[@joeymorvant161]

@@MrBoyYankee Probably. Wouldn't surprise me. But, I have it taped from TV when it premiered in '89.

[@Tchernobog]

which one? the one everyone has seen on YT with Jason Takes manhattan? or the jason goes to hell one? or the one with cj graham, which isn't on youtube, where he promoted jason lives, yet wore a sack from part 2 because they couldnt get the rights to the mask, which cj talks about at panels? still waiting for the latter 2 aresnio hall interviews.

[@Tchernobog]

@@MrBoyYankee only one of 3 is on youtube. jason was on arsenio hall three times to promote jason lives, jtm and jason goes to hell. only the jtm is on youtube. the jason goes to hell and cj graham one are both not on youtube.

[@robertpreston2220]

That was not the real jason

[@Ric_Roar]

Tried to watch this but the same loop over and over of the intro music from Nightmare On Elm Street 5 is maddening...

[@bobrew461]

why why why do they feel the need to add music to documentaries???

[@Ric_Roar]

@@bobrew461 I don't mind music. Just not the same 10 - 15 second loop over and over.

[@wesleyhermsen2242]

they also forgot to say in the interview that the female was also Always the Hero/Victor in those movies which i understand is empowerment

[@LaurLoVideo]

I have such a soft spot for the Nightmare films ❤️💚❤️💚 such a character on and off the screen!

[@horrormovietributes8273]

80s best decade for horror movies

[@AnthonyMason-ur8zw]

80 Slasher Movies were a addiction. You know what happens, you how it happens, and the endings but you still have to watch them, often eating Church Chicken, their 2 sides, and drinking a St. Ides, great great times.❤❤❤❤

[@realong2506]

Now they have torture porn and nobody gives a crap. I preferred the scary ghost in the shadows or monster you only got a glimpse of in the dark. All the blood and gore is not scary it's just gross and not needed.

[@donniehagy5125]

Agreed. I'm not against gore in a movie, but gore-for-gore's sake is ridiculous. It isn't about scaring anybody anymore. It's simply seeing if the audience can be grossed out.

[@billywhite1857]

Betsy's reaction to the Jason polaroid is hilarious. Classic. I bet she was fun to work with.

[@MrBoyYankee]

Ahhh the good ol' days when Sean and Vic could play in the same sandbox and create a Friday the 13th movie.

[@buckaroobanzai7063]

I find it hard not to be angry at Vic because it's thanks to him the F13 Game got screwed over. Never did get the Jason X level. :(

[@therealblacktronempire1987]

I love that nobody except Manfredini remembers the actual meaning or even sound of the whispers.

[@realdoogie]

Thanks for the post! This was a great watch.