You’re Playing From The WRONG Tee’s!

[@ShawnyBGolf]

I was finally able to convince my friends to play from the white instead of blues after I shot one my best scores because on my second shot I was able to use clubs i’m comfortable with on my approach shots instead of long irons. Also we played a few course where the carts have what tees you should play depending on your handicap and that helped convincing them to play up too. Every course should have something like that to encourage people to play the proper tees.

[@ProfessorB.]

This summer I started playing from the "forward" tees (red in my golf course) and it made a huge difference in my enjoyment of the game. The longest club I carry is a 5 wood and playing from the forward tees gives me a chance to hit greens in regulation, which also means I get chances to make pars and even birdies. My answer to the question whether someone is playing from the wrong tee is based on this experience. I think the correct tees for all players are the tees from which they can have a somewhat comfortable second shot for a green in regulation. Most players who struggle to break 100 should move forward.

[@brentlucas7739]

Whenever I play with my wife I always play off the forward tees with her. Irons only and 2 iron only on par 5s. It’s fun to have a different look at the course and it seems like we are really playing together since we aren’t stopping at different tees.

[@thomburleson7661]

I'm 69 years old and all of my golfing buddies are in their 70's, so we play the senior tees. (Ha, I've lived a lot of years to earn that privilege!) I laugh at these younger guys whose ego makes them play the blue tees, yet they CONSTANTLY are getting double and even triple bogeys! It slows down the play for everyone, yet they stubbornly refuse to adjust. The way I view it is that we're not pros, so who cares if you move up to a tee box which makes your game much more enjoyable. Isn't that why we're out there?

[@Grigsby_golf]

I’ve finally got my dad playing the forward tees. He keeps up with me and it makes it a lot more fun for him!

[@karlmilne6446]

My dad also just decided to start playing the forwards tees and the same it makes him competitive with me but more fun for him because he has lost about 40 or 50 yards in the last year or two due to health problems

[@Grigsby_golf]

@@karlmilne6446 I play with some guys that are older than me too on a regular basis. I think It is important that as we age we start to take our egos out of the game and move to more forward tees. If not for anything other than making the game more fun. Especially when someone is limited on the game they can bring to the course.

[@deviusfeilds]

Golf Mates call this "The Game With No Name!" Good to see Mr Gary Martin back on the flat screen Mr Robinson.

[@danielcohen3159]

As a short-hitting, low handicapper, this is always an interesting question for me. There's a rough calculation you can do where you multiply your average 5-iron distance by 36 and that is (roughly) what length course you should play. For me that's between 160-170 yards, which works out to 5760-6120 yards. That's about where the "regular men's" tees are. In this part of the US they're usually the white tees. My regular playing buddies are big bombers and often want to play off the longer tees, and I say "play from wherever you like - I'm playing the whites." I have zero ego where this is concerned and it's just not a lot of fun hitting 5-wood approaches all day. I'll also mix it up sometimes. For me, 400 yards is the max I can play a par 4 and have a shot at consistently hitting the green. If a course has two or three par 4's that are 400-420 yards: no problem. There should be challenges in a round. However, if it has 6 or 7 of those "long" par 4's (for me) I will move up a set of tees on a few of them. Again - it's no fun hitting 5-wood into greens all day. BUT! It really is good practice for the fairway woods and long irons (and short game) to play from tees that are longer than is comfortable. So there's that. Also, a course with hard fairways where you get a lot of roll may be at 6200-6400 yards on the card, but play MUCH shorter than that.

[@rogerschuck5013]

Liam of Golf mates play this, but chose short or long tees from closed fist, nice to see another variation of the game , keep the vlogs coming

[@alexundjoegolftips1511]

This is the perfect way to play faster and without any stress. Nice to see you guys make this video. We think that this makes every golfer better in several ways.

[@AwlDeigh]

At 73 I started playing the forward tees just this past week. I play with my 9&11 year old grandsons and has made the game much better for them and me. Club selection has definitely shifted which makes a bit of a challenge as opposed to form membership tees. Wife has just taken up game also. And it’s much more comfortable experience. With son in law we play backGood thoughtful video. Thanks

[@randyhoneycutt8153]

Most of the courses around here have “senior” tees, further back than the red tees. My playing partner and I take every advantage of this as we are both in our early 70’s and have lost some distance. Besides golf is hard enough without making holes play longer. Great video.

[@Piffisthebest]

Man I love the edits “give that some” 😂 23:23

[@DensyL01]

A few weeks ago, I watched a PGA golf tournament on TV, and a commentator said that the proper tees you should be playing from should be 27times your average driving distance. I'm 71, and my average driving distance is around 215 yards. So 27 * 215 = 5802 yards which corresponds to the grey tees. on the golf course I play There are 4 tees : Blue = 6529 yards total distance would require your average driving distance to be 241 yards , White tees = 6226 yards = 230 yards average driving distance , Grey tees = 5655 yards = 206 yards average driving distance and Red tees = 5099 yards = 185 yards average driving distance. The commentator said that you might enjoy more playing if you play within your ability /capacity. Also that it would probably reduce the time to play 18 holes as many are simply not playing the tees they should playing on.

[@larrylarry9278]

We are 72 years old , I play from the front tees and my wife plays from the edge of the fairway where it starts on the par 4 and par5 holes . This makes us about even off the tees and we enjoy our time on the golf course . We both hit from the front on par three holes . this makes it enjoyable for both of us .

[@travisg.1310]

The boys are buzzin! Good to see you guys just enjoyin a round! Def wanna see you guys play the whites and the reds!

[@WSDFirm]

I love playing all the tees at my own home course. I encourage you guys to play at the reds or other combinations.

[@kurtrankin]

Great content, James. I enjoy watching KZbin personalities revisit this question on-course. Well done. I'd watch a match off the forward tees. I play from all of the different sets of tees at my local course, depending on my mood that day. When I play from the forward tees, however, I don't take my driver with me - it's my worst club to begin with, so it's a nice reprieve. My best score ever was a 76 from the forward tees, while my landing spots with 3-iron were quite similar to with driver from the tips (where best = 79, and was SO much more mentally exhausting). The difference was playing from fairways rather than chipping out from under pine trees and punching out around oaks.

[@luke3milan]

Great editing on this one James! Had me laughing out loud. Fun to watch.

[@52t99]

This is so true. Just yesterday, a couple golfer in front of us playing off the blue tees. Saying their drive a banana ball is an insult to banana. It’s either a push slice or top. They need to play red tees, but egos are too big and holding up everyone behind is not an issues. People, gender is not a determination of which tees you play. Your ABILITY to play is.

[@Holtynfuntime]

I usually split it up I play the tips on par 4s and 5s and one up on the par 3s makes it more fun

[@johnr.1592]

Tee selection for 4 tee boxes should be as follows: Tips are for those that are trying to break par. Blues for those trying to break 80. Whites for those trying to break 90. Reds for those trying to break 100. Rename the colours to 'par tees' '80 tees', etc... I also fully support clubs having junior tees for 12 and under if they welcome those ages on the course, but for the other tees, let's get rid of the "ladies/seniors" tee stigma.

[@aaronnimz3807]

That was the most serious final putt I have seen James take! 🤣🤣. Definitely more if it!

[@simondewhurst3237]

A gived that some, gived that some, gived that some……….. you merced him there James🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelackley1560]

In the States some courses mix the tees to vary the yardage. Like it. Does make course play different.

[@lavs23]

I'm roughly a 8 cap. If I'm at a course I'm a regular at I'll occasionally play off shorter tees (Gold or Red) and leave Driver 3W in the car. Or play from the tips just to mix it up for a little variety. I'm not trying to make the tour anyway just out to enjoy a game of golf. Sometimes I want a challenge and sometimes I just want to hit fairways and greens.

[@Doze320]

Great video. Interesting how your thinking changes when you have the chance to go for it or play it safe for a planned approach. I would like you to mention the total yardage of the courses you play regardless of the tees chosen. Playing the "correct" tees will certainly make your game more enjoyable.

[@shawnmichajluk2044]

Definitely interested in seeing playing off both tees. Got me thinking if I will try a different tee this afternoon.

[@johngrimes1358]

You been watching the “game with no name” from Golfmates…. You ought to try “Back to the Future” 🤪🤪

[@JoshuaPerks]

Seriously a little attribution would be nice.

[@JebJones]

I would love to see you both play off of both tees and compare the shots and talk about your club section and why! I shot 9 over for the 1st time yesterday!! Thank you so much for all the relatable content! I follow you both and watch every video

[@carllivesey5224]

Liam over at golfmates as been playing this game ,good fun 👍

[@mysticalbeing8943]

they should add back to the future to this

[@E69apeTheMatrix420]

Has?

[@peterjames6017]

Ha ha !!! Great editing , words to be reminded of“I give that some , I’ll be surprised if you beat that “

[@kevinscott2780]

The editing has me in the floor! 😂🤣 Well done James! 😉🤣🤣🤣

[@mikepainter2135]

I’m 67 with back and hip problems. Should I unapologetically just use the senior tees?

[@tommiethatcher7265]

“I give that some “ “I give that some” “I give that some “ 😂😂 poor Gaz. Excellent content guy’s and definitely film the pair of you teeing off both tees

[@AndyYNWA_1892]

With the WHS you can play any tee you want. The system will adjust your playing handicap to suit the actual course based on what tee you have chosen and the slope/course rating. In Sweden, we have moved away from the coloured tees to take away the labels of "Ladies tee" and "Senior tee". Now they are all numbered based on the length of the course. So a course playing 6200, 5800, 5200 and 4700 meters, will have tees called 62, 58, 52 and 47.

[@georgesealy4706]

I like playing farther back because I better focus on what I am doing. Many times I have hit the ball farther out on the hole from the back tee than from the regular tee. I also get a lot more satisfaction parring a hole from the back tee. I know I had to hit good shots all around to get it done. It also helps when I play with guys from the standard tees. Many players get stressed out once they are more than 150 yards from the green for their second shot, but not me.

[@travisbrown1893]

I heard from someone at my home track that you take your average drive (245yds) and multiply it by 28 and that will give you the total yardage of the course and what tees you should play (6860yds). It sounded legit when he was explaining it.

[@richardtoms9161]

The PGA Pro at our course tells us that the correct way to pick what tee to play from is that if you regularly score net par or just either side of par you are playing from the right tee. If for example you are regularly 10 over net par you should move up a set and conversely going well under net par you should move back.

[@robertharper874]

Love this because I played with some friends from the forward tees and never could break 80 . I couldn't shape the ball good off the tee and therefore I couldn't make the dog legs on the course. Then one day a friend ask me to play golf and we played from the back tees. All of the sudden the fairway got wider and the dog legs were great for a straight drive and I didn't have to worry about shot shape. I end up shooting a 78 with a triple and two doubles , so YES which tees YOU play from is important

[@karlmilne6446]

Funny I would think on most courses i have played the forward tees are easier because I wouldn’t have to hit it as far to get to the dog leg which means I wouldn’t always need to worry about shot shape or which side of the fairway to play. For instance at the curse I play a lot on the 3rd hole I need to keep my ball to the left from the whites because I most likely will have trees blocking me if I play to the right. Where on the forward tees I only gain maybe 20 or thirty yards but because of those yards I can get it past the dog leg so even if the ball is little to right I hit past where the trees would get in my way.

[@hudsonrilke]

In Alberta many groups go off the back tees and they aren’t up to it. Takes them ages and causes a backlog on the course

[@kevinscott2780]

Our mensclub event had a Red White Blue tournament. You alternate your tee boxes per hole. It was fun!

[@beauxbeaux7]

I play the same courses often so what I do is jump around the tees. It gives you almost a new course feel but not so much that you feel lost out there

[@maamold]

Hi James, I've always loved you channel and content. Great vid on proper tee use and the fun it can bring. One thing you may want to invest in is a camera with a better zoom, the digital zoom just isn't cutting it anylonger.

[@stevenhocking7731]

Play the Red Tees every week when I play with my 2 boys (8&7). Its a different challenge as my handicap, with slope, comes down by 5 shots. But is an interesting challenge bring more holes into range with Driver.

[@roberthudson3571]

Brilliant vid. I’m having a course vlog with Gaz at Tinsley park. I might tee of the reds and let him tee off the whites. Lol

[@golfdebunkered6358]

Like Liam is playing on Golfmates! Cool this should be interesting!

[@rickcudmore8156]

So what was the yardage of the yellow tees? You could alternated, white, yellow, red for 6 holes.

[@markpreston6345]

Great to see Gaz enjoying himself again 👍

[@badmuppet6532]

Like the gamesmanship James. His first red tee against you on white - right we’ll make it a longest tee shot then shall we 😂🤣😂

[@Liverpaul74]

Being off 31.5 I prefer playing off the reds, as I feel under less pressure when I make bad shots, some tee shots off yellow and white need a 150+ carry, just gets a little awkward when I can catch a big drive on the reds, oh he is a bandit, but I am trying to break 100, what I would like to see is an official ruling to stop the stigma. So above a 25 handicap you play off reds, 24 to 10 you play off yellows, 9 below whites and 60+ in age reds, as reduced power, let’s get rid of the reds as lady’s tees, make the game easier for the high handicap player.

[@Andrew_382]

Handicap has nothing to do with the tees you should play. My dad is 65 and plays the senior tees, I’m 24 and play from the backs he hits driver ~230, I hit driver ~285. We hit almost the same clubs into greens this way. He would still be a lower handicap then me by a couple strokes a round tho.

[@simonwright1847]

Well played on the edit James.done Gaz big time 👏🏻😂

[@steelcity4581]

Always play of the forward/ladies tees. I’m 24 but can only carry my driver 180-200. Longest I can carry any iron is 125.

[@keithwalker1780]

I think that was a loaded coin. Lol. My buddies and I will play the back tees on holes that have an index 10 through 18 and the mid tees on index 1 through 9. We call it member tees and it works at any golf course

[@Betleyman_7]

At Wychwood Park in Cheshire the tees are not colour coded any longer but are identified by the slope rating, so forward tees (previously red) are 132, with other tees 138 (yellow), 148 (white) and 151(blue). Females only play off the 132s and have different and slope course ratings to males. The idea behind this is to remove any perceived stigma associated with the forward tees.

[@aaronnimz3807]

Funny that Gaz grabbed the Callaway ball, when I bet he hits it longer with the Snell.

[@jeffbates5401]

James great video. Do some more like this

[@DylanSorgenti]

Love the “gave that some” edits in there

[@christopherweldon8898]

Was he surprised James?? 😂😂😂😂

[@garyshearer9681]

You guys need to play the back tees and invite OMP from the golf mates and let him play the forward tees. I would love to see that! You could have Liam on also to add some banter.

[@tomballinger3545]

😂😂😂 “Give that some”

[@JBJHonez]

I always play from the second ones from the back until told otherwise. Which is more than likely in some sort of tournament

[@shawntaylor7442]

Clearly the next video will be Gaz introducing a new driver. No way he let's that go 😁

[@eirishboy]

I'd only a different tee would help my chipping or putting.

[@patrickscribner]

I like playing somewhat forward, I’ll play 6500 rather than 7000 because I’ll remember shooting 75 way more than shooting 83 from the back tees.

[@jamesgraham6109]

Nice way to play a new course and not leave home. How many men would break 80 just because they played from the forward tees?

[@myredstar1]

I’d suggest alternating holes between red and white tees on one round. Then switch on next round to see how you like it.

[@IC3za]

Yes! Play two matches, one off the white tees and one off match the red tees!

[@FrankBrickle]

I sometimes play fairway bunker shots 90-120 yards with a much longer club, like a 5 or 6 iron, deliberately hitting fat 1/2 to 1 inch behind the ball. It works extremely well as long as you can run the ball in. This is a really old idea that seems to have gone into hiding for the last couple of decades.

[@brianmcpeake2509]

A game off the reds would be interesting for sure.

[@Florida_Norm]

What if you play with guys that drive it 50 yards further than you? Should I play from the forward tees?

[@andrewwilson5324]

You should try rainbow golf for abit of fun tea whites then yellow then red

[@richarddrew7727]

We sometimes play " traffic lights" first tee white, second tee yellow, third tee red and so on. Makes it interesting

[@1972geeman]

You need to now play back to the future - that's another golf mates game as well ;-)

[@kevinpinder9372]

Enjoyed this , think Liam thought of this first 👍

[@bobmacek7826]

Does that marker always land that way??

[@ericjencson9489]

This is all about how far you hit the ball. I'm almost 60 and 230 off the tee with a driver. I play with a 20 year old guy who out drives me by 50 yards. I Play one tee box forward of him and basically we are hitting the same clubs on our approach shot.

[@neilrock7386]

Are “I’ve give that some” T-Shirts going to be available soon? 🤣🤣🤣

[@seamusandpat]

You have put your finger on the problem, Red/forward tees are nearly always named 'Ladies Tee'. So blokes, even old blokes like me, are embarrassed to play off them. In reality beginners and elderly players like myself would probably enjoy playing even more if we used the 'Forward Tees' instead of struggling off the Blue, Whites and Yellows. If every club abandoned the term 'Ladies tee' and just used the colour and encouraged more players to use forward tees for social, then golf more players would get more pleasure from playing.

[@petermolyneux9544]

Our first red tee is decorated by tubs of flowers courtesy of the ladies. Going to be hard to get past the "ladies tee" thinking.

[@seamusandpat]

@@petermolyneux9544 my point exactly!

[@johnconner1158]

At the start of the video, that's what I thought you guys were doing, both playing from both tees. I thought that would be interesting to see if it made a difference in your own scores.

[@tthaas]

I played a course a couple weeks ago that had a sign at the clubhouse by the starter: "If your drive is less than 130 yards, green tees, 130-160 yards red tees, 160-190 white tees, 190-220 blue tees, 220+ black tees" That seems a good way to approach the labels we have on tees instead of being "family/kids, ladies, seniors, men, championship"

[@angel05ea]

Add a little twist to it. Whoever tees off a par 3 off whites, the person off the reds has to use the same club, let's see how creative you can be.

[@Burningrobes]

Everytime James walks backwards over his ball i keep expecting him to stand on it and go flying onto his backside. It will be a good laugh when it eventually happens.

[@billpilling5725]

My home course, theres only 15 yards difference between the tips and the whites. But the reds can be as much as 60 yards ahead of the whites.

[@georgesealy4706]

That's true where I play. We have some holes where the red tees make for a drivable par 4, so we have a little challenge among us to see if we can do it or get close. When I am playing alone, I sometimes go to the red tees, but I hit an iron or hybrid to see if I can put the ball where I want.

[@robnoble9570]

Gary's new merch.....'I'd be surprised'

[@seancoxe1094]

As a 73-yr-old, official 'coffin dodger,' I play the reds all the time. I can still play 'real' golf from the reds. From the whites, it's wood, wood, and how's your short game. Call them ladies' tees if you like; I don't mind.

[@sherms78]

Some nice edits of 'give that some' subtly dropped in there 🤣

[@piranhaparran3007]

Most people could stand to go up a tee. PGA actually has specific standards for which tee you should be using.

[@michaelackley1560]

Fun format

[@dassdjsksk733]

Does it really make a difference which tees u play off? The difference between each is like 8 yards?

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

The biggest distance is 75 and smallest is 45… so yes… It does

[@markhilton4920]

😂😂pinched Liams game with no name

[@leewalford2468]

I give that some 😂😂😂

[@mrheyz]

Playing from the forward tees like you play from the middle/ back tees brings in more trouble. James....

[@GodandBrooksFallsbears]

I just don’t have the physical ability to play off the white tees unless making every 400yrd plus hole a par 5, & 500yrd par 6

[@martinwilliams4759]

Where's mark can you get him to test the new Titleist t200 irons please

[@nojosm]

Gaz did you give that some ?

[@baldwinbonney]

Think it's time for James to go back to hitting the lob wedge when just off the green...

[@Slingy-Strezz]

Anyone notice the video about him using all old clubs how his driver is a ping g410 and then he shows up to the first tee with a 2021 callaway driver

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

This is a different person Alec… 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@redgewaycumby8397]

Have you still not given away that power cart?

[@100herron]

Try no more than 5 iron off the tee and take the longest club required for second shot…. Driver off the deck comes on leaps and bounds

[@robertcourt8593]

The handicap should be limited to 18 strokes and if you can't get near net par you should move forward 50 yards.