You're Setting Up Your Cymbals Wrong (Do This Instead)

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Cameron Fleury

Cameron Fleury

Күн бұрын

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@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips for other drummers? Leave them below! Also, if you're looking for the mini course, it's right here ➤➤ Double Bass Drumming Control: Free Mini-Course 🎁 →academy.cameronfleury.com/double-bass-control-mini-course
@scottlogsdon9092
@scottlogsdon9092 Жыл бұрын
Artists like Travis also have multiple sponsors also and get regular deliveries of cymbals, sticks, and heads so they don't have to worry about the damage. I don't have a full package sponsorship but I do have one for sticks and heads up to a specific amount for each year. Sponsorships are really nice but most people don't get that and I didn't have any for many years. Great Video!!
@lwestrich94
@lwestrich94 3 жыл бұрын
At least for the hi hat spacing, having a second one slightly closed for double bass stuff and one pretty open for foot control works for me
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Always wanted a remote hi-hat for that!
@JewishCircumcision1155
@JewishCircumcision1155 2 жыл бұрын
@@CameronFleury one closed, one barely open. I’ve wanted to afford that
@NEALBABBITT
@NEALBABBITT Жыл бұрын
I've tried an extra hi hat before a couple of times but I can never place it comfortably. My ride, crash or tom are always in the way. 😑
@niffingig5143
@niffingig5143 9 ай бұрын
@JewishCircumcision1155 - I've been using 2 hi-hats for almost 20 years. The hats to my right are on a "closed hat" boom arm attachment. You can open the hats on all of those types of attachment arms, and I have my hi-hat open just enough to sizzle. The one on the left (on a traditional hi-hat stand) is open a little bit more for the standard hi-hat play. YES, two hi-hats are expensive, but that's if you're going for the professional lines. If you are using intermediate level lines, it's affordable and will still sound decent. When I first started using two sets of hats, I had Paiste Alphas, and my 2nd hats were a combo of a Sabian B8 bottom with a Zildjian New Beat top. It got the job done for not a lot of $$$. I have since upgraded all my cymbals..... Seriously upgraded.
@wickedwidget3812
@wickedwidget3812 2 жыл бұрын
Man as a beginner drummer this really helped me understand the placement especially seeing as how I want to play metal. So this video really helped awesome brother thank you.
@mrantarctica
@mrantarctica Жыл бұрын
For cymbals that I might choke, I like to place my accent/crash cymbals at an arms length so that it's a comfortable distance to easily choke (not over extending). When the stick is in your hand, it'll be easily reachable still and you can easily play all the articulations (bell, bow, edge) to emphasise the musicality of the cymbal.
@ciniclay
@ciniclay 3 жыл бұрын
may I suggest not having any flat lines when repairing that cymbal? from this angle it kind of looks like you simply had 3 lines.. if there are solid angles, those are potential points where the cracks can expand from, so it would help to round them off ;)
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I did not know that either. I'll have to do that. Thank you!
@skirwan78
@skirwan78 3 жыл бұрын
love setup videos , I'd like one on positioning extra items, from cowbells and blocks to where and how to add electronic pads - think Danny Carey's Mandalas. Maybe how to run wires cleanly for mics and edrums? As for tips, one of my favorites is taking marker to bottom of sticks and doing designs. X/O/Triangle/Numbers so I can easily identify matched pairs from my stick bag when I grab them.
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea about the cabling! Also, I have used that marking technique before, very useful! Thanks for sharing!
@Mudge07
@Mudge07 Жыл бұрын
On ride particularly positioning on a multi-rod extension stand, as it tends to be the lowest or at least level with hi-hats. Don’t place it’s stand too high and try to compensate with the extension rod/ tilter to lower it. What will in fact happen is that you’ll have the free play of the cymbal compromised by the reflex angle of the tilter/rod ad damage it during playing. Avoid it by choosing set the cymbal stand base low and projecting the topmost support-rod and tilter upwards from that level; preferably with more than enough angle to prevent the struck cymbal (on the supported side away from the drummer) bouncing off the support-rod. As shown here, tilt the ride cymbal downwards towards the drummer to expose more of it playable surface. For those using crash ride then a higher position overall will provide less problems as you’ll need to have a better edge-swiping arc introduced as the cymbal elevation increases.
@timhourigan6257
@timhourigan6257 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the double bass control mini-course! You are a gentleman and a scholar! Two BIG thumbs up!
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@MartinBellamyMBDrums
@MartinBellamyMBDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Good point about the wing nut on the china. Ive wrecked a few like that LOL. LUCKILY was able to catch the crack early on and cut it out similar to yours. No real sound difference and saves a ton of cash. One thing that I noticed (and it might be the angle of the camera) is to try and file any sharp corners into round edges, then do a light sanding to smooth put the new edge. This should prevent any cracks from starting up again at those points.
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
That's what someone else had mentioned too. Definitely going to do that. Thank you!
@MartinBellamyMBDrums
@MartinBellamyMBDrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@CameronFleury no worries at all man! Love the series. Do you have one on mic placement?
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
@@MartinBellamyMBDrums here this is just what you're looking for: cameronfleury.com/drummers-guide-to-microphone-placement
@MartinBellamyMBDrums
@MartinBellamyMBDrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@CameronFleury awesome! I'll check it out! :) thank you!
@timbit2006
@timbit2006 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I'm going to show it to my roomate for sure, he's been bashing at my kit and it absolutely kills me to think he's ruining my what is now multiple thousand dollar cymbal investment because he doesn't know how to hit them.
@NeverSickAtSea
@NeverSickAtSea Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the instructional video! You have two crashes, presumably of different sizes. Which do you place on which side (smaller on the left, for example), and why?
@lee13whitehead
@lee13whitehead 3 жыл бұрын
Hellhammer is a perfect example of washing over cymbals, I thought it was odd at first but its great when you get used to it and it helps with timing and flow, nice vid
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@valtyger
@valtyger 9 ай бұрын
I was looking for the position of bottom HiHat tilting screw (or bolt). Should it always be at opposite side?
@troymartinez3923
@troymartinez3923 11 ай бұрын
Great video!!!! Great money saving advice!!!!! I started tilting my cymbals, highlights (I use 2) , Chinas (2 again,) towards me about 5 years ago. Also, I only use 1, 19" crash, to my left, and it's my least used, the ones I use most are my middle and right cymbals, but these are both 20" ride cymbals, because I won't break them (🤣)!!!!!!!!
@surveillant
@surveillant 8 ай бұрын
Link to the double bass course not working 😠
@lobbyrobby
@lobbyrobby 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I bought my first drum set a couple months ago. I swear everyday I'm moving something like 2 mm's lol. I only have 1 have 16 inch crash on my left side. I'd like to add a 18 inch crash too. Hell, I might just upgrade all my cymbals as my kit came with Meinl hcs cymbals. I know they are a cheap beginner set. Could you point me in the right direction of a stand that could hold my ride and that 18 inch crash or should I just buy another stand?
@jayburd4225
@jayburd4225 5 ай бұрын
I've literally had an A Custom 16in crash for 20 years hitting it from the side... sure it's warped but still sounds amazing and no cracks....
@rocknrolloutlaw6113
@rocknrolloutlaw6113 2 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial my friend! Very well explained... ❤️ your channel!!!
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 🙂
@jcdrums2798
@jcdrums2798 2 ай бұрын
how much you squeeze your splash please?
@JayJay-sk3iu
@JayJay-sk3iu 10 ай бұрын
Great vid and explanations!
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 10 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@rickyhurkmans678
@rickyhurkmans678 Жыл бұрын
What song is playing in the background?
@Luemm3l
@Luemm3l 3 жыл бұрын
very useful video! I already did some things (i.e. not having tight cymbals via wingnuts, but I hated that anyway, but great to know that also increases longevity), others like striking your cymbals with more surface area is also super helpful because other sound, better ergonomics and less cracks, so your purse is happier are also great additions. bigger issues are usually hi-hat and double pedal setup, because the way I like my hats crashes with the way I like to angle the second bass drum pedal usually... especially with an electronic kit.
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Pedal positioning can be tricky if your hi-hat stand doesn't swivel. But, it is possible to do. I used sit the hi-hat stand leg apex over top of the slave pedal. If that makes sense?
@rlibby404
@rlibby404 Жыл бұрын
What pre do u use with the M179s? What polar pattern? I can't seem to use mine on toms without peaking them out. Maybe I'm just hitting too hard idk
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury Жыл бұрын
Just a focusrite 18i20 with the hype cardioid pattern.
@HellenAsante-xt9kh
@HellenAsante-xt9kh Жыл бұрын
The high hat that I have has rough edges and its unstable too
@NEALBABBITT
@NEALBABBITT 2 жыл бұрын
Drawing the sound out, not bashing and beating. Working with it, not against it.
@icenic_wolf
@icenic_wolf 3 жыл бұрын
A mini-tutorial on "how to set up/place your hi-hats so that you don't hate the recording engineer for putting the snare mic where your hats should go" might be a good short one. Assuming you don't have your own Granelli G5790 mic to get around that. ;-)
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
No granelli here! I'll see what I can do! Great suggestion, thank you!
@kennethasher7386
@kennethasher7386 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and another to remember is make sure your cymbal doesn't run away from you while trying to play! Always make sure there's a mat or something to hold the cymbal stand, this happened to me once while playing live and I had to reach so far out to hit it and if you use a heavy cymbal or ride, you can stick a bit of moongel to it to kinda get an agressive sound.
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! We need to be able to play the cymbal, let alone worry about everything else that could happen along the way. Interesting concept about the moongel on the cymbals! Thanks for sharing!
@insertmetalusernamehere
@insertmetalusernamehere 3 жыл бұрын
@@CameronFleury check out dollar tree window clings. I got a tip from a dude that days they are they exact same stuff just one cost a dollar . I have a lot of them. I'm going to try putting one on a cymbal and see what happens
@taekwanlew
@taekwanlew Жыл бұрын
Playing since 1978. Never cracked a cymbal and I'm told I'm a heavy hitter. Always played straight, Clem Burke style.
@ezctrlez
@ezctrlez Жыл бұрын
Cómo colocar tus símbolos.
@ShadyNeon
@ShadyNeon 9 ай бұрын
1:16 “Touch wood”💀
@HellenAsante-xt9kh
@HellenAsante-xt9kh Жыл бұрын
God bless for the video
@HellenAsante-xt9kh
@HellenAsante-xt9kh Жыл бұрын
I do not have a ride cymbal so I improvise by using my crash cymbal
@samhilt9115
@samhilt9115 3 жыл бұрын
nice cap! and logical explanations as well. :)
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@dxb8086
@dxb8086 Жыл бұрын
_"You're Setting Up Your Cymbals Wrong"_ Oh how I love videos where already the title tells me that I am doing something wrong. Well, my cymbals are perfectly fine where they are, thanks.
@sherronweathers1883
@sherronweathers1883 3 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍🏽
@bennettknerzer7425
@bennettknerzer7425 3 жыл бұрын
HEY!!!!!! Can you do a Metallica song as nicko mcbrain?
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
I might just be up to it! Any song requests?
@bennettknerzer7425
@bennettknerzer7425 3 жыл бұрын
Frayed ends of sanity! It's a good song and I think it would sound good as nicko! I love your drumming to. And speaking of broken cymabals I have 2 zbts that are almost split in half! I'm only 13 so I don't have enough money to by more.😭
@evangray155
@evangray155 3 жыл бұрын
I just cracked the exact same crash at the beginning of the video after only a year. This is so depressing
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you're covered under a 2 year warranty! Definitely get it replaced!
@evangray155
@evangray155 3 жыл бұрын
@@CameronFleury I will definitely look into it, I’m not sure why it cracked so fast. I don’t know if I was hitting it to hard or what.
@BlazonStone
@BlazonStone 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Mangini disagrees with everything in this video
@CameronFleury
@CameronFleury 2 жыл бұрын
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@SpikeMoi
@SpikeMoi 2 ай бұрын
background music is disturbing. can't focus on what he says.
@keithdoeskungfu
@keithdoeskungfu 8 ай бұрын
Decent lesson , would recommend getting rid of the background music. It's very distracting lol. But otherwise I like the content!
@NilsLegoWorld
@NilsLegoWorld 6 ай бұрын
so youre telling me ive meen druming for 7 years and ive always put my cymbals wrong ?
@MV-ot8kr
@MV-ot8kr Жыл бұрын
Orchestrating an orchestra should not be confused with conducting a conductor .
@denniswilliams1989
@denniswilliams1989 Жыл бұрын
You talked for over 6 minutes without striking a cymbal and then you only hit the hi-hat! My suggestion to you is to talk less, physically demonstrate more. With all due respect, poor instructional/demonstrative video.
@dannyheethuis6380
@dannyheethuis6380 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn he talks too much......
@suqqmadiq2604
@suqqmadiq2604 Жыл бұрын
THERES A DAMN MOTH!
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