“You Say You Developed it, I Disagree!” | Dragons’ Den

[@JamesFodor]

This pitch had it all: a product of questionable value, super cringey music segment, absurd valuation, ridiculous comparison to Steve Jobs, forgetting the figures, and a sob story to top it all off. This is why I subscribe to this channel. More like this please.

[@MuslimChocolatier]

Exactly! 😂

[@YYmmmYY]

I don't understand the product tho?

[@lukas_9725]

5:27 Nick Jenkins had the perfect reaction when she made the Steve Jobs comparison!

[@mrflynn1205]

Just a bullshitter like that Sunil the sandwich dude.

[@quitethevoyeur]

You're all heart, James :)

[@aaronlomax6102]

Please crank the music UP. I don’t want to be able to hear anything else: the pitch, the Dragons, the narrator - just that wonderful Dragon’s Den music.

[@unboxmuseumm]

😂😂😂😂😂❤️

[@pilotactor777]

Sarcasm?

[@jameshetfield5382]

@@pilotactor777 Not at all dude wtf

[@annacarter6559]

Maybe with a duet by Peter and Deborah

[@IMattType]

Soundtrack available everywhere now

[@Asif-kh-n9r]

Surprised no one mentioned the fact she valued her company at 1.5 mil yet didn't know her figures

[@Ben111778]

Funny how they didnt use layman language when asking about her margin. Honestly, both sides were complete opposites, like oil and water trying to mix. Her expression was that of a brick wall when asked her margin. Seeing that, you'd think they would have reworded to just ask, "how much did it cost to make your supply, and how much do you sell it for? How much does the company cost to keep running?" And do a quick calculation. But instead battered her with business language she didnt understand while each dragon enjoyed dangling the lifeline of a mentor in her obviously desperate face until she broke down. After that, she went on autopilot and did what the world has taught her works for most women, crying and a manipulative plea of "help me save my children from repeating my own broke past!". It looked to me like the dragons were some very bored cats playing with a very vulnerable mouse caught between them all. She did go on to continue building the company and make money, and it's too bad Covid shut the company down in the end.

[@logitech2010100]

​@@Ben111778 dude it's all edited. They probabaly did break it down into Lehman's terms for her

[@Technicallyimright]

The women coming out looking “slimmer” was quite possibly the most underwhelming thing ever.

[@hayden6383]

Bahahaha best thing I've read today!

[@aartadventure]

Ouch but IKR. Most of the Dragons started straight up laughing. Her: Prepare for a transformation miracle! Reality: Several overweight housewives waddle out.

[@Woody991]

Literally couldn't tell the difference.

[@bugsy774]

They were equally beautiful before and after. After - they were beautiful and slightly less comfortable.

[@jonnil1997]

And they always make the ”before” images so ugly with bad lighting and poor posture lmao

[@NoahMcleany]

“Everything I do, is for my children”- people with kids

[@mynamejeb8743]

i dont get the joke. like not trying to agro but legit no idea

[@Jasper-Holland]

@@mynamejeb8743 The joke is that everyone who has kids say this

[@curval5413]

@@mynamejeb8743 They're trying to come across as passionate and determined because of the fact they have children to provide for, when all they're really doing is saying they've had unprotected sex, in this case 4 times.

[@pippipster6767]

Yeah, people without kids tend not to say this 🤣

[@jaybayer3670]

Aye the ones that really mean it though, those are the real ones

[@barteatmyshorts8252]

"That's lovely but I don't care" savage Debra I love it 😁

[@user-ik5di4lp3r]

She got put her in place so hats off to Debra & she’s quite annoying tbh .

[@jameshetfield5382]

I can’t believe people would go to pitch a business without knowing the basic numbers.

[@WobblesandBean]

And that's why Deborah's the best

[@perysima]

I love DM! My favourite.

[@DrTune]

Any time someone invokes Steve Jobs on this show, you know they're going home penniless

[@aaronlomax6102]

(In entrepreneur’s head) Entrepreneur: Steve Jobs did it - which means I can too! Dragon: here’s my check book - go nuts!

[@rre-group7521]

And you know the camera is zooming in on Peter the tech guy

[@frieswijk]

Steve Jobs himself would have gone home penniless; Stealing other peoples ideas and putting them on the market with somebody elses brandname. They would have never believed he would have been able to fool the market into believing he was an innovator. Nor would they have believed he wasn't going to be sued to bits for all the copyrights and trademarks he broke.

[@imrank9282]

And the nail in the coffin is when they start crying when things go wrong

[@cchavezjr7]

She was right though. Steve Jobs didn't make anything new. He took what was already available and refined it.

[@daryltheexplorer7427]

"I always believed that my product was going to be successful" Deborah: I don't care Burn baby burn..

[@arfanmedni7294]

Ouch

[@Albimar17]

fkin' awfool response and rude from DM...

[@MarFutbolero]

that one there was a v... personally I wouldn't have it

[@tomaszhoekstra7357]

You know they need the numbers, how can you go in without having it ready to go. DM’s comment was justified, the question was not ‘what do you believe the product is going to do’ All she asked for was NUMBERS

[@netweed09]

@@tomaszhoekstra7357 That's not the point but Ok,,, lol

[@jaket5991]

Everything I do I do for my kids. Well done that's what 90% of parents do, have a medal

[@hurdur6828]

can I have a medal aswell pretty please with a cherry on top

[@shelbymanners6729]

That’s what happens when you start handing out “participation awards” for everyone. The real world doesn’t work like that.

[@oxymoron02]

@@shelbymanners6729 Okay boomer

[@shelbymanners6729]

@@oxymoron02 Awww.....Did that hurt your little feelings, snowflake ❄️?

[@mmww_]

Full time mummies be like

[@Vikanuck]

That model walk in was the most uncomfortable thing I’ve ever watched...

[@Money_J_KC]

The music made me want to blow my brains out lol

[@yaboiavery5986]

Same but, there's been worse, like the singing ones, a chick wrote a song and sang it in the middle of her pitch and it was terrible

[@revertakh1235]

Sameeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

[@chrystianaw8256]

True. I felt so uncomfortable

[@DarrenG]

"now that the guinea pigs have left" ... the narrator could probably have chosen better words lol.

[@studymapai]

I hate it when a business pitch turns into a please help me plee. Everyone got problems you’ve gotta work to solve them!

[@ellenkarlsson9490]

I love it! I live for drama. But you're right, the dragons don't run charities, they're there to make money.

[@studymapai]

@Graham Aidan lol This is so random 😂😂

[@andrewstubbs822]

Precisely. And yours are spelling and grammar, now back to class immediately! ✍️

[@trigtrigger9794]

@ In my garage wear some shorts.... Try the Pyramid Scheme as you clearly want a quick buck just like your ex girlfriend

[@studymapai]

@Nexxol haha you like to troll people 😂😂

[@melonheadman1]

I'm a dad with two kids, on my own and just them. I'd never use the kids excuse, it's embarrassing.

[@hurdur6828]

im a mother of 56 children and i approve this message

[@nifralo2752]

@@hurdur6828 56? Are you a mouse?

[@donthelpmethx]

You’re using it now.

[@hurdur6828]

@@donthelpmethx clever

[@mrjules2008]

It's a woman's trait to appeal for pity. My dad brought me up on his own and never mentioned it.

[@MattLloydTube]

Do these people actually watch the show? How are people still going in not knowing their numbers?

[@Albimar17]

too difficult to remember ;P Just think of how many people forget their PINs every day!@

[@netweed09]

Could do worse. Could confuse being out for being in like _some_ people

[@trs8696]

it blows my mind that there are people in the world who don't obsessively watch this show on their lunchbreaks

[@aartadventure]

@@trs8696 She is too busy wrapping herself in cling film and spinning in circles thinking she magically transformed herself into Linda Carter as Wonder Woman.

[@commanderkeen3787]

This is why it's important to pitch with at least two people. That way, it's highly unlikely that they both have mental blocks at the same time

[@theheadshotstudio9254]

In case you missed it, she's doing this all for her kids.

[@helenaville5939]

Low punch.

[@sandrajovic9078]

@@helenaville5939 agree. It's a positive!

[@arfanmedni7294]

So is Theo.

[@ImageSlayer]

Of course! Shes special, she has.. CHILDREN.

[@Nickpaintbrush]

@@ImageSlayer Special alright !

[@mazimov]

Deborah seems the toughest one, but I worked with an infinite amount of leading business women that are like her, I can tell you for sure: Women like her are the best in business. Because they combine the impossible: thick skin and and empathy at the same time. I really really love her.

[@Person01234]

She's also very smart and good at drilling down to the facts, she's always the ones that goes over any contracts or other documents they have and finds what she needs to find.

[@BryanJohnson4891]

I married a woman like Deborah, bloody glad I did.

[@mohammedpanju2236]

@@Person01234 She reads Contracts and Lengthy Patent Documents quicker than you can say DEBORAH. She must be WONDER WOMAN.

[@intrepidtomato]

I liked both Sarah and Deborah here, they found a way to acknowledge the good while being really clear what was missing. Great people

[@BeastTheMadness]

She comes across so... aggressive with her message and then start crying. Gee. I don't like the pity card. I really don't.

[@MBULTRAHD]

Completely agree. There's one thing having an emotional story to help drive you on. And there's another having a sob story to try and earn some pitty. This seemed like the latter, for sure.

[@davidmg1925]

check

[@claudiogonzalez9926]

Absolutely. People who really fight for their kids and struggle to succeed cry AFTER they get what they wanted or needed (Think about will smith in pursuit of happiness) and not BEFORE. And psychology aside, showing how needy you are plainly and simply puts you in the worst negotiating position you could be, in which your potential partner knows he can squeeze you because you really need to make a deal.

[@vangledosh]

Unfortunately for these sympathy cravers, that tactic REALLY doesn’t work in business.

[@oxymoron02]

People in these comments really be telling on themselves with how callous they are. People are allowed to have emotions; and if you think those emotions are fake it says more about you than it does about them ;)

[@CivilPulse]

She didn’t “forget the numbers”she just didn’t want to admit her business was bleeding money from the second year 🙄🤦‍♀️

[@LooxeY]

It's always good when they bring up a Steve Jobs comparison.

[@PATRYK-R1]

It's always funny

[@player34536]

Ikr. Steve Jobs of all people LOL. Two worlds of difference.

[@chinmayravindrashah]

That teacher lady who was working with improving handwriting brought up Apple and Samsung stylus and damn, that was super! 😂

[@PATRYK-R1]

@@chinmayravindrashah that was ridiculous 🤣🤣

[@annacarter6559]

Humble is always best

[@livingbymottos]

Her saying at the end that "I know my figures inside out" just proves Deborah's point that she will always think she's right and never learn

[@obliviouz]

Yup. It's the equivalent of the amazing ideas you have when you're half asleep and you think they're worth billions, and you're sure of it, except when you're awake and actually conscious to put them in more definite terms, you realise it was moronic. Except she's half asleep all the time - in her mind when she doesn't have to define and actually spell them out, the numbers are great.... seemingly, to her.

[@sg3596]

@K B lol..if they lost weight they would not need this. Or if they are comfortable they would not need it.

[@mem1363]

@K B Kloe? Guess she couldnt afford a Kendell or Kim Insta post

[@mrflynn1205]

She clearly didn’t though

[@ConnuhGT]

"Now with the human guinea pigs out of the way" LMAO

[@jonbedker5229]

They edited in the word guinea.

[@jimmycrackers3358]

@@jonbedker5229 🤣🤣🤣

[@chinmayravindrashah]

That was inappropriately hilarious. Don’t know why but it is! 😂

[@LK-oz9bn]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Slim4Hunnad]

@@jonbedker5229dammit bro you got me 😭😭

[@Liam-wi8ud]

“Everything I do, I do for my children” - Walter White (and this lady)

[@9VK7]

"Stay OUT of my territory" - Jenny

[@elwyn5150]

"I liked it" - finale Walter White

[@Alec_Reaper]

@@elwyn5150 I knew my figures, I was good at it.

[@arfanmedni7294]

I'm the one who knocks on the door at night...

[@the90sfattyfromtakethat]

Flynn’s alright as long as he gets breakfast

[@The_Candyman86]

This lady tried to use emotion and sympathy to get investment. Not acceptable. She was definitely hiding something that she didnt want the dragons to know about.

[@royfr8136]

Pretty much 80% of all women... when in trouble play the tears and victim card...

[@imperialrp2730]

@@royfr8136 df

[@E2O10]

@@royfr8136 Find a therapist, talk out your issues, or you'll never feel truly satisfied in a relationship for the rest of your life - from what you present, to me personally.

[@-null-null8857]

@@royfr8136 id put it at maybe 25-30%. I also have an ENORMOUSE HEMMMAROID

[@cookiekilbane5989]

Yea I kind of thought the same thing although I feel like I could forget the numbers under pressure also

[@jonathanc3570]

It’s normal for entrepreneurs to get nervous, sometimes they might forget their numbers under pressure, But when you come in asking for a 1.5 million valuation, £75K for 5% - you better know your numbers like the back of your hand.

[@sizomahlangu5938]

i wish Jenny was there

[@gregtaylor2879]

At least write them down

[@shelbymanners6729]

Or written on her hand maybe?

[@jannaj9598]

This is why I love Debra. She sees through everybody! One of the best Dragon’s on Dragon’s Den.

[@lukegale7812]

I wish Deborah was my mum ...Or my wife

[@ecos889]

@@lukegale7812 Why not both? ;)

[@whiplash2891]

@@ecos889 🤨

[@eleanorcooke7136]

@@ecos889 okay Oedipus

[@thomas86lake]

@@lukegale7812 those are low standards imo lol

[@IAmTheJayster]

The Steve Jobs combining a phone and an mp3 player line cracked me up, that coupled with Nick's expression afterwards

[@FortoFight]

It annoys me that she (and presumably many other people) thinks that Apple (and Steve Jobs in particular, even though he wasn't an engineer) invented the concept of a phone that plays music.

[@ceeleegee825]

And Peter at 5:31

[@sirhenrysimmerson9385]

They didn't like that comment because they were Steve jobs special interests.

[@sandrajovic9078]

xoxo

[@anthony13p2000]

Bruh Pizza Jones' face after she said that...

[@gamewithadam7235]

When she said to Toukar "will you though?" she literally made him realise how desperate she is and turned him off of investing, woman just needed to let him finish speaking lol and she probably would have got an offer.

[@thealien_ali3382]

Indeed

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

True.

[@edwardwilliamson1]

Nah it was a really poor product and a dismal pitch. Touker would never have invested

[@FeedMyPets]

i don’t know, i think she crumbled too much. things went pretty south after she couldn’t even explain how much her company was turning over annually.

[@clapdrix72]

No he wasn't going to

[@poppyseed5270]

Those 3 ladies trying their best to give us ✨ catwalk ✨ was hilarious, modelling is a difficult job!

[@Barboron]

Listening to her answer questions is painful. She goes on big rants and deflecting.

[@ecowavepowerelectricityfro128]

Hi

[@Barboron]

@@ecowavepowerelectricityfro128 Hello

[@zaheercarrim1035]

I can't watch. She also looks like a brat who hasn't been challenged before.

[@arfanmedni7294]

She's too emotional, the line about being passionate about her business has long gone past, she may not have many options left

[@psoteriou3884]

Imagine working with her...

[@MatecaCorp]

A good rule in business; cut the emotions unless you’re working them on consumers. Also, don’t tell investors that you never finished school

[@johnward4978]

Hate it when the person puts the waterworks on and use there kids as bait,to make the dragons feel sorry for her. Well done debra for not bying it 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@susanwaugh2383]

Couldn’t agree more, well said! It’s funny how those tears quickly dried up after the pitch

[@Ben111778]

Well, the waterworks are what her parents and world in general have taught her works in situations of need, and I agree, despicable. Her expression was genuine desperation when a dragon mentioned she needed someone to walk her through big business, which is exactly what drove her there with out considering everything they were going to hit her with if she was to be successful at finding a mentor in that room. Her expression was that of a brick wall on her face when Deborah asked her about margins. You could see she didn't understand the question at all. I dont think she actually went over her numbers before going into the den, or maybe ever. Because anyone paying attention to their numbers can at least say "I spent this much on manufacturing the product, this much product sold, this much on the logistics and company, and we cleared this much from it all in the end of that fiscal year."

[@liddybug8311]

I actually fully expected her to claim she was about to faint for a last ditch attempt at sympathy and attention lol

[@roseedge5626]

This is one of the few shows where that doesn't work. And I love it.

[@longq5198]

Don't forget the "not having privilege" bit.

[@harlem6365]

I really don't understand how people go there without even knowing the most basic numbers of their company. That's like trying to sell your house not knowing many rooms or sq. Mtrs. It is

[@kimkimpa5150]

Oh trust me, I run a company and I've got no clue what so ever. I hire an accountant to deal with all that stuff.

[@shelbymanners6729]

@@kimkimpa5150 I will bet you would know them before this type of presentation though. Maybe she should have them on a card or written them on her hand.

[@horusreloaded6387]

Stress is hell of a drug. I sometimes struggle to tell my name for a few seconds because only thing i could think of is that i need to think things other than having to think other things.

[@scottleadbetter7167]

Now that's how you use examples. Talking about the number of rooms when you sell a house expains very well what the most relevant facts are when selling a business model.

[@tgooda4672]

@@kimkimpa5150 so how can you possibly make good decisions if you don’t understand what the impact is going to be on turnover or profit? If you’re not just bragging and really do run a business then you’ve either been lucky or are riding on someone else’s coat tails up until now, based on this comment!

[@fsu3941]

Going on about family is not a professional business pitch using emotion

[@Lilliz91]

To be fair a lot of things politics etc. emotional pitches are used. Smart ones won’t fall for it though.

[@govegan6112]

I grew up poor and struggled so I'll have 4 kids and struggle again. How does that make sense?

[@wackybrattyx]

Lol, I grew up poor so I made sure that I make 6 figures as an adult and will only have 2 kids max.

[@PointNemo9]

@@wackybrattyxYou can have 3 if spread out over time.

[@basharstats4482]

😂

[@mrsurprise2294]

She's relying on one of them to rake in big bucks and look after her for life

[@REALSimulatedDumplings]

As someone who lives in the American southeast, this crap is entirely too common. I blame it on the government supporting them just for having kids. One lady came in my store and had literally 2,000 dollars worth of food stamps. All for having kids. No job, no marketable skills, just a baby factory. Meanwhile as a single male with no kids, I get taxed to hell and back, and couldn’t get any form of help when my doctor took me out of work for 6 months to do surgery on my hands.

[@gefernandes8194]

Peter's baffled look after the apple comparison sums up the entire video.

[@ageroth1342]

When Deborah asked "are you ready" you could see the glimmer of hope come across her eyes as she nodded yes then savagely Deborah followed up with "I'm out"

[@braydauman1254]

So??? Is it not human to feel hope??? Have a heart

[@ageroth1342]

@@braydauman1254 i think you misunderstood the point I was trying to make. Its certainly human to feel hope and Deborah played into that on purpose to hurt the lady worse than just saying "I'm out" she built the hope on purpose to use it against the lady pitching

[@vidastrent7622]

Oh ur right. Very sad to do that 😔

[@blueredtrill6943]

‘I want £75k for 5%’ Debra: what’s your margin? ‘I’m sorry my minds gone completely blank’

[@E2O10]

Yeah.. 1.5mil valuation and doesn't know any numbers, not much for investors to go on..

[@umungus518]

Debra: oops, so has my wallet

[@icystrangers5482]

"I know my figures inside out....I don't know what happened..." What happened was proof that you don't know your figures inside out. At least learn that much.

[@ninjalokust]

The look on her face spoke a libraries worth of words. That open mouth, confused, lost and desperate looking over into blank space as if she had just been asked to solve Newtons 3rd law of thermodynamics using nothing but some pebbles and a length of string was the end of it for me. She isn't just out of her depth, she is drowning before she ever got into the pool, she is looking at the sign telling her the pool is 5 miles away and instantly thinking "OMG I'M DROWNING HELP HELP SOMEONE SAVE ME" and the other people on the bus are looking at each other sideways wondering what loony bin she just came from.

[@arfanmedni7294]

First pressure point and she choked.

[@zac8286]

@@ninjalokust are you ok?

[@free_gold4467]

I know, these are very basic numbers, how can you possibly go on Dragon's Den for investment without the first clue about your own business? It beggar's belief!!

[@chukkachick1879]

@@ninjalokust Bwha! Ha! Ha! 😂😂😂😂 Nice one, and en pointe. She didn't just have a "brain freeze"; it was glaringly obvious, with her deer-in-the-headlights expression, that she had absolutely no clue what Deborah was asking her.

[@cristifarbrown8429]

Peter was out after the Steve jobs comparison 😂

[@dy2cakc1]

He was very perplexed.

[@eoinreilly3925]

Entrepreneur "In our first year I always thought we would be a success Deborah "that's lovely but I don't care"

[@joebloggs8292]

Lol 😂

[@MarxistKnight]

“That’s lovely but I don’t care” *me drinking coffee*: “Pffffffffttttttt”

[@marwanashraf1394]

"Ahhhhhhhhhhh"

[@Lilliz91]

😂😂😂

[@mellinu]

This is exactly my reaction

[@teresiagithinji643]

😂😂😂😅

[@John.Asante]

Is it just me or do the women look basically the same with or without the shape wear?

[@Gorrgrim]

Theres no magic way to shed 50lbs especially in the face lol

[@jrbs]

Before 👯‍♂️ After 👯‍♂️ 🤣🤣🤣

[@GottaLoveShuckle]

The main difference is simply the clothes they are wearing. They are all wearing black in front of the dragons which is a slimming colour.

[@KnockedupNout]

It just smooths things out, makes things look rounder instead of lumps here and there, sleeker.

[@andrewgurney6019]

Diets and a good lifestyle would help more.

[@soilhands7853]

She buckled under pressure perhaps, but I'm not convinced. Crocodile tears? In fact, the pitch was all hot air with no substance at all. Not remembering year 2 figures? Something's up, and all the tears and sympathy play will get you nowhere in the Den. As Deborah puts it - "I don't care." Turnover (and Kardashians LOL) is VANITY, profit is sanity.

[@aartadventure]

Exactly. A sob story about not being educated isn't going to cut it in business, neither are tears. Educate yourself on those basic numbers and how to calculate them! It's gob smacking how time and time again people walk into the Den thinking they don't need those basic numbers, and Deborah shuts them down. Every. Single. Time. (and rightly so).

[@ifyousayso4229]

who is chloe kardashian..? is she famous for changing the world is she ..?

[@stuartbroad227]

We'll see your croc tears one day too.

[@TheBengalDragon]

I am glad I’m not the only one who noticed that.

[@the_endling]

Her "I do everything for my kids" Rory "I do everything for seaweed!"

[@debbiesunlight7047]

Lol oh Rory where ever he is with his seaweed and the best job in the world I hope he is still happy lol 😂

[@davidconnolly9465]

Jheez music was so loud, Jenny was blown out of her house watching this.

[@ryanseager123456789]

That's if she's ever home, she's always out.

[@williamking1905]

Maybe if I cry they will just invest anyway. That's not how this 5 got to where they are, behind the smiles and kind words are 5 ruthless entrepreneurs who probably made alot of people cry on their way to the top...

[@johnhiggins1600]

There's just no way she made any profit, and certainly no way near the turnover she claimed. This woman's company was running for barely one year before being struck off. And I don't believe her at all when she claimed to have such celebrity endorsements. She probably spent a ton sending these celebrities this product and before she realised it, she had no money left to run the business.

[@christianeichinger2840]

You would think these entrepreneurs have watched at least one episode of DD before asking for an investment. "So, tell me about your gross/net profit." "...... I never expected that question."

[@Zoebubble]

Peter's face after she says the thing about Steve Jobs 😂

[@bigbig83uk]

This is like watching an Indian movie.... it had everything!!

[@arfanmedni7294]

Except the costume change halfway!

[@Albimar17]

as Aishwarya Rai once famously noted: "They call it Bollywood because B stands for Bombay and ollywood for Hollywood"

[@omfgitzfahad5818]

brown person enter the den and already the indian movie comments have come in

[@basharstats4482]

😝

[@lovefood6651]

It was a mini movie called mujhe paisa chaheye🤣

[@hayden6383]

"I didn't have the privilege of having an education." We know. 😉

[@texastrishamts4248]

🤣🤣🤣that comment decked me

[@alanw4589]

Don't need an education, just need a brain.

[@mirianadimitrova2112]

Yeah, funny she had the privilege of having kids, though - four times!

[@Maitreya888]

You people are horrible. Karma gets you back for being malicious.

[@texastrishamts4248]

@@Maitreya888 butt hurt on the comment section 🤣🤣🤣💣

[@Money_J_KC]

"with the human guinea pigs out of the way" 😂😂😂 the narrator always cracks me up

[@LJScott1974]

“I started looking for a solution on the market”.....that didn’t involve diet and exercise

[@Money_J_KC]

😂😂 agreed

[@tubester4567]

Right

[@aaronlomax6102]

The modern term for that is “victim blaming”.

[@raghu5657]

😂😂😂 yeah

[@SenatorSlayer]

The way she keeps protesting about “doing it for her kids” makes me think she is making up for something

[@thapthoptheep2076]

*knock, knock* Open up, lady - it's social services! Lady: Right...ama start selling knickers!

[@alphasia91]

I worked at a department store from 2010 to 2012 and the shapewear they had worked just fine. This is not innovative.

[@3x7project]

*"Hey, audio-engineer! MORE COWBELL!!!"*

[@anzo5376]

Hahaha😂😂😂

[@thapthoptheep2076]

Top class..they should have Christopher Walken narrate this show.

[@theactualcanadian8300]

The Steve Jobs comment was just... oh boy she’s in trouble

[@netweed09]

How? What did he do, just made phones operate like kids and teen toys with playskool interfaces but you're gonna vehemently defend him because he rides atop a mountain of banks right? (well, not anymore obviously). He didn't even invent the 1st modern touchscreen phone; LG did, lol. He was the 1st mass-credit stealer, I'll give him that

[@theactualcanadian8300]

@@netweed09 there’s always one XD

[@netweed09]

@@theactualcanadian8300 To state the facts. Why, are you shy of good information? Did Google fall out with you? What's wrong?

[@theactualcanadian8300]

@@netweed09 you’re not worth the time

[@netweed09]

@@theactualcanadian8300 Thanks for your time. Now, go away and educate yourself in everything instead of tagging along and shilling blindly to street names

[@mollyscot1563]

Nick was one of the best dragons. "Frankly I felt rather privileged you'd turned up" 😄

[@ses694]

I loved his reaction at the beggining when she said she was the CEO

[@barnnummer5milliard]

The music isn't loud enough... I can still hear some of the dialogue in the background!

[@JACK-is7rk]

Ah yes, the "I need to start crying here and bring up my kids to save this pitch" card.

[@Chi_Vid1]

She should have also mentioned racial abuse and mental health problems

[@yaboiavery5986]

@@Chi_Vid1 ah yes, victim mindset

[@PikaPluff]

@@Chi_Vid1 why are you bringing up something that didn’t happen Karen

[@thapthoptheep2076]

@@PikaPluff Very rude, I'd like to speak to your manager! Yes...mr manager? This comment is RAAAW!

[@mrflynn1205]

@@Chi_Vid1 She should also have thrown in the transgender agenda too for good measure.

[@cannonball9478]

Think she knew damn well what her year two figures were. Turning over that much money you simply have to know or bills won’t be paid. Her profit in year two was probably crap and she didn’t want to say. OR she has no intention of agreeing an investment and she’s just after publicity. Just not throwing straight dice is my instinct.

[@MrMFoxd]

Her facial expressions are so meme-able

[@stevecarroll6760]

It’s good Steve Jobs was brought up because Jenny used an iPhone to call in and say that she’s out.

[@kimkimpa5150]

iMout

[@RRX]

Imagine investing in someone just because they have 4 kids... not because they are good at business.

[@Myrddin1955]

Why don't people do their homework by watching this programme BEFORE they enter the Den. I think it is fair to say that none of the Dragon's are interested in a 5% stake in anything and why would they?

[@mrjsmith2152]

And Frankly I felt rather privileged you turned up! Lol

[@arfanmedni7294]

Chloe Kardashian will do anything for you if you paid her for it!

[@kuzoiki]

“with human guinea pigs out of the way” someone give this narrator a raise 😭

[@kimkimpa5150]

Yes. In particular, give him a volume raise because you can barely hear him over the music

[@Chris-bn1vt]

I is shocking to see how many people turn blank if they are asked about the figures. If you do business you've got to know how many you are producing, how many you sell, what they sell for, and most of all you have to know how much money is going into and out of your bank account. Best of all, they go and ask for an investment, and do so without preparing properly.

[@cloviswanziguya6543]

Touker: Takes off glasses to see properly.

[@cassia3363]

Guess he doesn't have hs reading glasses on, he wears hjs distance glasses for thr show instead.

[@tuffshark12]

you can't step onto this show with an ego. That's why I like it so much it's not just a test if you have all the sales and numbers its judgement for if you have the characteristsics developed to manage the business through adversity

[@clev7989]

I also imagine it has something to do with figuring out profitability, a lot of nonsense figures are revealed through the number questions.

[@Jaypes1]

'I never finished school.' 'Great. Here's my check book.'

[@jimmaier233]

Didn't have the priviledge of education !? Pff.. I drove trucks to support my family, now I got my own company since 11 years. I googled and asked whoever I could to not make bad mistakes and get my business going. No-one helped me either and I don't cry people a river about that. My job, my responsibility, my problem... and my numbers, that I should know about ;-)

[@Samara.Weaving]

When she mentioned Apple & Steve Jobs, I just put my hand on my head and said "oh no"

[@leopardgecko9100]

I do feel bad for her, nerves probably made her mess up the numbers. But come on, don't start crying in front of them.. they weren't even mean, just criticizing her for not knowing the numbers.

[@stephies4734]

shes probably just frustrated at herself

[@clev7989]

Finally, someone with at least a little bit of empathy

[@Aaa-wf6cg]

Nah she didn't know anything it was obvious.

[@karishmadas420]

Excuse me, there's some dragons den in my music

[@pursuingpurity596]

Is there a rule against bringing in documents that have all the figures? Because I don't understand why so many go in relying on their memory whilst they're under pressure.

[@devanman7920]

I'd imagine they're not allowed to read from a script that way they slip up more thus making the show better to the producers

[@caitlinlindsay8418]

Deborah is the absolute definition of firm but fair

[@lukegale7812]

I wish Deborah was my mum. Or my wife

[@devanman7920]

Ya she's great. Never cruel like the rest of them can be, she's just a smart lady and see through lots of the crap.

[@PetersonZF]

They actually treated her a lot better than most people who fluff their numbers.

[@eduard6969]

It amazes me people who run a business without knowing the very basic figures (turnover, gross profit, net profit).

[@kevinbissinger]

12:02 100 bucks says there are people who knew her who went out of their way to teach her stuff that got their feelings hurt when she said that.

[@JSSTyger]

8:10 Deborah dropping bombs in the den.

[@bibibajwa1191]

She’s clueless about finance, I am always amazed that people come into the Den so ill prepared

[@intrepidtomato]

The pitch was really good tbf, maybe she had a brain freeze or was hiding something. The way she told the story made it investable and the way she brought in the models I thought was timed right - not too lengthy. Pity she didn't have her figures straight.

[@_J.B.S._]

Turn down the music!

[@chinmayravindrashah]

How do we make this request appear like an ad to the uploader?

[@icystrangers5482]

Chloe Kardashian involved and all sorts of things...frankly I felt quite privileged you turned up.. ROTFL!

[@Albimar17]

8:13 - 8:30 I can only guess the editor must have truly enjoyed filling in that pause moment!

[@bunglechild]

This is awful, all I'm thinking is no don't say that, nice but irrelevant, no try something else, just answer the question, no stop deflecting, okay I can see where this is going bye bye.

[@yungnoodlearm]

Did you just have a stroke?

[@eoinreilly3925]

@@yungnoodlearm 🤣🤣

[@taranullius9221]

Performance fabrics can be great. I have sun sleeves I wear in 45+C heat that I can then take off indoors and they're far cooler to wear than any normal fabrics I own. That said, there is no fabric in the world that is going to boost collagen and elastin that's just a lie.

[@kasvinimuniandy4178]

Yea and surely not cellulite.

[@ILKILO1]

Did she just compare herself to Steve Jobs and look clueless when confronted by the words margin and cost of sale all in the same pitch? She really should look at getting some form of basic education before attempting to run a successful business 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@ManlyBog6448]

Why don't you just exercise...

[@sarahreynolds308]

I was just thinking, Id rather just loose weight. These things are like a man stuffing a sports sock down his drawers.

[@random-nz7dy]

LOL those women look identical to the pictures just with brighter lights 🤣🤣🤣 I don't know how the dragons didn't just bust out laughing. What a joke.

[@Whatismyname146]

Entrepeneur: Fails to answer the very first opening question about numbers Dragons: No one invests before even discussing the product because doesn't know numbers Entrepeneur: I know my numbers inside and out

[@gavinwoodward2813]

Dont have four kids if you cant afford them

[@mikeh2006]

Oof

[@balance3201]

Wit govt benefit s everyone can lol

[@player34536]

@@balance3201 Yeah...no.

[@KnockedupNout]

@@balance3201 untrue, at minimum wage I made almost twice as much as I would get on "free government money", the amount BARELY pays the bills and I only pay $600 renting a HOUSE. It's not all is cracked up to be.

[@gavinwoodward2813]

@@KnockedupNout uk

[@jumble-1238]

Mentioning hers kids it’s exactly the same thing Kirsty Hensaw said with that ‘Coconice’ brand that did really well but she was so humble and you could see how much of an effort she’d made.

[@philgriffin8285]

She should live the numbers everyday. No good not to know them.

[@sasnad3]

True. I'm refreshing my online sale page 10 times a day every day. Those numbers even haunt me when im asleep

[@djpeekay25]

You think that people would have realised that this is the most common question by the dragons

[@zakchoudhry6197]

Some folk aren’t cut out for business. She’s comes across as very nervous or very uneducated

[@zaheercarrim1035]

I agree

[@Kris_Aalst]

Yeah she says so herself, "I never finished school" or the likes.

[@ListerLanius]

I thought we were out of pitches with Nick! Nick is the most entertaining dragon in my opinion!

[@CyberUK]

5:54 made me laugh - brilliant editing for that one - bring out the heavy artillery :-)

[@katielynch9740]

Investors are investing in you and your business, and your ability to make them money not your ability to have children or be a parent. I feel like if it was THAT important to do this for your kids, you’d at least prepare and take a quick look at your numbers, not just rhyme off celeb names.

[@markwarrington2788]

I see the company is dissolved and the website domain is available.

[@arfanmedni7294]

Maybe she sold out for millions, and is now living through this lockdown on a tropical island? One can hope.

[@binarysignals9593]

@@arfanmedni7294 😂😂 nah back to her council house

[@stefjames95]

Nah, back to the daycare centre unfortunately

[@paulfranklin8636]

She's blowing her kids future..3 companies, 3 failures...she's going through money like there's no tomorrow and getting nothing back

[@DavinaMealoha]

Whaaap! #10! All love from Hawai'i. I just love all the Dragon's. 2 am and I'm so loving it. Mahalo.