You've Probably NEVER Seen This Chord Before!

[@nakun33]

beautiful progression!

[@Bubba-zu6yr]

The power of pedal-notes. Thank you, excellent as usual!

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

Thanks!

[@mattbarnes1204]

Actually, the upper 3 notes of that Am6/C reminds me of your lesson about the 6-5 chords Metallica played in "Fade to Black" & "One".

[@joeldcanfield_spinhead]

@10:35 as I've spent more time with piano the past year I'm realize how much is possible with voice leading. it's easier to see when your fingers are laid out linear instead of jumbled together on a guitar.

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

I actually find it easier on a guitar. Strings are literally your voices (though this is only the first step). It's also the way I teach in my courses. The guitar is not "jumbled together" - it's just organized differently with parallel lines - which is EXACTLY what you need to understand voice leading for multiple voices.

[@joeldcanfield_spinhead]

@@MusicTheoryForGuitar I forgot to use the "Joking" font for the phrase "jumbled together" :) Please let me try again. As you teach it on your whiteboard, with the parallel lines of movement, it is clear and understandble. It's why I'm here! But when I look at my hands-on the piano, move my middle finger, only, or my index finger, only, and I hear how the sound changes. On the guitar, *my fingers* feel jumbled together, because I have never learned to visualize the relative positions of the notes from one string to the next.

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

@@joeldcanfield_spinhead Oops, sorry, so easy to assume serious tone in writing. I see where you are coming from, then. There are exercises that help with that, but it's true that feeling that kind of freedom on the guitar requires some practice to un-jumble the fingers.

[@joeldcanfield_spinhead]

Do you have videos or a class on such exercises? It's something I have needed to conquer for a long time but haven't put in the work.

[@Xplora213]

This gives more sense to the task of the pianist composer just trying a million chords and their inversions to write their piece.

[@gregoryhaddock5395]

Thank you for the lesson. I always appreciate voice leading instruction. 🤔 The descending chromatic reminds me of the band Chicago perhaps or Stone Temple Pilots.

[@bluenational]

Now at 60 I just pick up the guitar and accompany any type of music, simply because I have trained my ear to hear and mentally my brain moves my fingers. I sound like a pro also because I let vibrations (mood) duplicate resonance

[@user-uz7gb7gb4v]

By the voice leading, the "Am6/C" should also lead nicely to B7. I'll go try it

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

It will :)

[@mk.8915]

Your channel should have more likes and views on it's videos! Too bad most guitar players are allergic to music theory (i'm not)

[@davidjohnson1654]

I think your "mystery chord" - at 14:58 - is a B-half-diminished chord. It IS beautiful! :)

[@SkyeGuy]

Anyone else immediately think of the opening notes of Silent Light from Chrono Trigger when he started playing the chord?

[@lowelheimtheaveragegamer9431]

A part the fact that is always interesting watching your videos, thus my thanks, I'd like to ask where do I get the same software you are using to recognize instantly chords? I've tried many, but I ain't satisfied yet.

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

I wish I could give you a simple answer on the software but... It's a haphazard thing made from 5 different software pieces, 3 different hardware pieces, all held together by 400 lines of custom code. Not something I can release. Or recommend - it's not really "stable".

[@lowelheimtheaveragegamer9431]

@@MusicTheoryForGuitar Ahaha ok, sounds quite complicated, thus I think you were also not 100% satisfied with what's up in the market. I thank you for your courtesy and answer. Kind regards!

[@bluenational]

Many many moons ago, my piano teacher told me that anyone can create chords with two notes or more. He also said that every chord is not known...

[@SpcmnSpf22]

What software is powering the keyboard/scale auto detection?

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

I wish I could give you a simple answer on the software but... It's a haphazard thing made from 5 different software pieces, 3 different hardware pieces, all held together by 400 lines of custom code. Not something I can release. Or recommend - it's not really "stable".

[@johnmac8084]

Thinking more like 4 part harmony on guitar I guess Tommaso? They didn't think in terms of chord names in Baroque times did they? When did the modern way of analysing harmony in chords start? Great analysis anyway, thanks

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

Chord analysis officially started in 1722 with the publication of Rameau's Harmony. Though even the Bachs were talking about "chords" before that, but they meant something different than we do today.

[@johnmac8084]

@@MusicTheoryForGuitar Very interesting Tommaso, thanks

[@egimzyegimzy3566]

Am6/C is a common thing for jazz - its better as Am6/C - we're just sort of brushing aside Barry Harris' teachings and rediscovering them as if it was never done

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

You do realize that everything in Barry Harris' theory was commonplace in the romantic era, and that this specific trick I show can be found even before that? Not looking down at Harris' theory, he had a brilliant way of explaining all this.

[@egimzyegimzy3566]

@@MusicTheoryForGuitarWhile most things can be described with what we see today, theory in the romantic era is barely exploring modes towards the end AFAIK, which Barry does not use . I highly doubt they would teach anything like that back then - unless you can show me a reference to a bebop scale from the romantic era

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

@@egimzyegimzy3566 1. I don't see why modes are part of this discussion since I don't mention them and you say that Barry doesn't use them :-). 2. ONE example among many, then. If you open a copy of Giovanni Furno's manual (that's pre-Mozart) you will find a note on how you can "exit the key" (which is the terminology of the time for "modulation", though it applies also to creating cadences or, how Barry would say , "movement") by playing a chord on the scale degrees 2,4,b6,7. The chord is invariably an inversion of the dominant, or a diminished 7th chords. Tell me that this doesn't remind you of anything? :-) (remember: It's ONE example. Among many. But if you search, you'll find them) Again, I like Barry Harris' synthesis, but literally every element of his teaching predates him. As it should - Barry Harris himself says that his teaching are a synthesis of stuff people were doing before him.

[@egimzyegimzy3566]

@@MusicTheoryForGuitar I had rewritten the comment due to the youtube reply window reseting - Modes were going to be an even more longer drawn out example of what I was going to say but.. yes the movements are just inherent in music which of course goes without saying. I'm not saying things like that are his teachings, he does teach that they are the natural order of things - more so things like the bebop scale which is an example that I was getting at. We have things like borrowing notes from diminished chords and the construction of chords. Compared to his way, AFAIK everything was just constructed by scale degree . Are any of those concepts familiar to you? Do you construct a major 7th chord by borrowing a note from the diminished above it? The Am6 chord, do you think of it as an Adim7 chord borrowing the E from the Gdim7(or whatever you want to call it) above it?

[@michaelbermoy2362]

shoulda left him thinking he’s a genius for literally playing a 1st inversion Am6.

[@johnperez9470]

does anyone know the the name of the transcription software ?

[@lucy2goosey]

That's the first thing I thought, I will investigate if you haven't found sir, shit looked wicked useful

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

I wish I could give you a simple answer on the software but... It's a haphazard thing made from 5 different software pieces, 3 different hardware pieces, all held together by 400 lines of custom code. Not something I can release. Or recommend - it's not really "stable".

[@christopherheckman7957]

"What's new in Baltimore? (How 'bout that chord that Ray played?)" -- Frank Zappa 3:35 Something that confused me: The Am6 chord doesn't have a minor sixth from the A; the 6 is major. If you want a minor 6th instead, the notation is Am♭6. 4:06 Or an augmented 6th chord? 4:27 Only jazz would use a chord name whose root isn't actually in the chord ... 8:36 This is starting to look like a Galant schema ... A kind of Quiescenza with a different soprano line, perhaps.

[@kiryucovers]

Yeah, I personally would call it either a minMaj6 chord or a Dorian chord. I don't know if there's an official name for it.

[@Padraigcoelfir]

I'd call it A dorian because it's a natural F# C-A-E-F# Just a different voicing.

[@RoiOfTheSuisse]

Yeah, I wanted to call it "C6 lydian", but since C6 is kinda Am, and dorian is to minor what lydian is to major, A dorian is a good name!

[@kiryucovers]

I think about it this way too.

[@Padraigcoelfir]

@@RoiOfTheSuisse Yeah, omit5 That would do. Naming chord isn't that static. It all depends on the context. Specially when the voicing is different, Dropped 1-2 Inversions And if you write C6#4(omit5) it's perfect. Depending on the context. C/Am♮6

[@kiryucovers]

It is in this song. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2e2kIiddrR-hKM The chord appears around 1:32 but the chord progressions starts around 1:27.

[@bluenational]

.....now I teach and practice... tonality and complimentary realtime composition and improvisations.... Learn the theory and notations last....

[@paulhansen6459]

You italians hoarding secret chords now too???? Wtf

[@MusicTheoryForGuitar]

LOLOLOL

[@paulhansen6459]

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