your favourite character might be autistic

[@Moss1403]

I hate that neurotypical people find adhd quirky yet they find autism weird like mate we are all neurodivergent here you can’t just pick and choose

[@seesaweffect8095]

but of course they only find adhd quirky when its the symptoms they particularly find charming and funny.

[@nova4476]

I feel this so hard!

[@apolloismydad]

@@seesaweffect8095 THIS

[@pfftxoxo1502]

YUUUUUUP

[@princeprimrose00]

As someone who has both it makes no sense

[@therealmarkzuckerberg]

Neurotypical people are all over quirky and awkward characters in popular media but shun people irl for those same behaviors

[@masuooo4452]

@@doremirse9950 what do they use instead?

[@therealmarkzuckerberg]

@@doremirse9950 Are you trying to NT-splain to actual autistic people?

[@dripcat7332]

@@doremirse9950 stfu neodriven and autistic people are as normal as neotypical people. You're the one described in this comment

[@pr1ncessepunk]

@@doremirse9950being neurodivergent is normal though

[@normanclatcher]

@@doremirse9950 you use "normal." I use "Norman." We are not the same.

[@roygbiv1122]

Believe it or not, Entrapta was deliberately written to be autistic. The notion that you headcanon her that way (in lieu of this knowledge) must be a testament to how well it was executed. On the other hand, Dana Terrace, creator of The Owl House, only made Luz canonically neurodivergent. No specific diagnosis. I think ADHD tends to be a more popular headcanon for her than autism does. I headcanon her as both because I honestly can't tell them apart. Not telling them apart is one of the things that makes me wonder if I have ADHD on top of my formally diagnosed autism. If you haven't seen it, skulltrot did an excellent video that dives deeper into the way The Owl House writes neurodivergence. Like queerness, it's not just a character or two. It feels like it's more deeply woven into the show's universe and core messages. No wonder the show's one of my special interests.

[@lotus.277]

i didn’t know that! yes i think entrapta was written very well. to me, making luz canonically neurodivergent meant there was an effort to make her that way rather than the coincidental traits of other headcanons i talked about, which is why i singled her out. but yes i headcanon her as also having adhd.

[@clarehagan86]

I remember reading somewhere that so many people were saying Luz was exhibiting signs of ADHD that Dana Terrace did say that was cannon. There is SO much overlap between the two, though, that reading Luz as both also does make a lot of sense.

[@bobbfourtytwo9724]

@@lotus.277 twilight sparkle was also written to be autistic

[@lotus.277]

@@bobbfourtytwo9724 she wasn’t, it was never mentioned by the creators it’s just a very popular fan theory

[@bobbfourtytwo9724]

@@lotus.277 damn :(

[@manifestationsofasort]

I don't get why allistics freak out over autistic people headcannoning certain characters as autistic. Like let us have have our singular crumb of representation in peace 😭💀 Will they ever learn that autism isn't bad??

[@robokill387]

They see it as us saying that the character "has something wrong with them", is "abnormal" or "broken". In other words, unexamined ableism. I can't imagine why people would get offended at people headcanoning a character as autistic other than that they think of autistic people as inferior "damaged goods" unworthy of love or admiration.

[@debbieparnell7582]

No because they would have to get over their superiority complex and couldn't pick on us for an easy self esteem and endorphin boost (for them) if that ever happened.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

Considering people still want us d*ad? Dont get your hopes up

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@MarquisLeary34 And then you get yelled at for writing the loaf in your own world. rinse repeat

[@MarquisLeary34]

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 Only when you demand everyone else acknowledge that your world is the canon world.

[@zsiliot]

These people are the reason I don't share my autism comfortably. But as someone whose special interest is mental illnesses, I sometimes (most of the times) get carried away and overshare : D I hate to see how uninformed some people are, and can't get my head around why can't we just all be a bit more accepting. A few days ago I got told to end myself in some comments just because I defended autism and depression. But I loved the video, and waiting eagerly for the next one : )

[@lotus.277]

i’m so sorry that happened to you. i really hope people can learn to be more understanding

[@JamesDHalliday]

Right?! I'm totally with you on this one, and I'm INCREDIBLY sorry you had to experience this, and totally agree that people should be just a bit more accepting or accepting altogether.

[@HelloHamburger]

ASD isn't an illness, simply a disorder orcondition, but I get your point.

[@stormlightning6268]

My special interest is disorders

[@briannasmith7470]

My special interest is specifically psychological disorders.

[@jellyguts6797]

I'm goth, Latina, and I'm 99.9% certain that I have autism (I've been researching for the past few months), so Wednesday Addams in the new adaptation made me so happy to see, cos I was seeing someone on screen who represented so many parts of me that I haven't seen before. Seeing those people in those TikTok comments absolutely boiled my blood; how can they be so dictating over a character that probably shares less relatability with them compared to other autistic/goth/Latinas out there? This was a great video, thank you

[@idrawanawfullot]

i'm goth latina but not autistic :)

[@Pro-Diletante]

Why do you make “goth/Latina/Autistic “ your whole personality most people with Autism don’t even do that. It makes you seem inauthentic and preachy if anything. You can be someone who looks different but if you don’t actually have the brain chemistry or genetics then your not autistic.

[@lemongrassandsleep6352]

I completely agree. Also, the “new wednesday fans”? I dunno man I connected with Wednesdays energy when I watched the Addams Family Values lol. It’s honestly rlly good autism rep (and Jenna Ortega brings amazing Latina representation too

[@blueischiii1575]

You should probably get a clinical diagnosis.

[@Reed5016]

I’m also a goth latin person. Glad there’s another one around here.

[@C.DWoods]

A few weeks ago, my brother said that autistic people are unintelligent which is untrue. And another thing is I relate more to autistic people than allistic people. I meet many criteria, Which is why I wish I could get professionally checked, but with my mother and her views, it would be near impossible.

[@michalelkin-bronner7958]

But i thought allstic people can be neruvigdent like adhd or ocd they just arent austistic dont you mean neruotypcial you relate more to aurstic then neruotypcial people

[@Kinuhbud]

My argument with my doctor for why I'm not autistic was based on me being highly intelligent. I was like no way I'm ToO SMArT!! And then I shut down...

[@C.DWoods]

@@michalelkin-bronner7958 Yes that is what I mean, curse my brain.

[@michalelkin-bronner7958]

@@user-ch1rx3oq5y yep there brain and meroy is fine everyone forgets things once in a while

[@michalelkin-bronner7958]

@@deanjustdean7818it really doesnt espicialy because it easier to say then not a non aurstic person and many allstic people are neruogivdnet to it just means there not aurstic the term where you not neruovigdnet is neruotypicial unless the neruotypcial person devoples something like ptsd cptsd or derpersion because yes you can become neruogivdnet but you still wont be aurstic or have adhd though

[@KickinSapphire]

Unless there is something that I am forgetting, I find it interesting that more people were open-minded and accepting of the idea of Newt Scamander, from the Fantastic Beast series, being on the spectrum, yet people seem to loath the idea of Wednesday Adams being on the spectrum. 🤔

[@lotus.277]

maybe has something to do with people not recognising autism in females who knows. 🤷‍♀️

[@KickinSapphire]

@@lotus.277 That could be part of it.

[@Kinuhbud]

@@lotus.277 I just watched Illymation's video on autism so I'm inclined to agree with that! It's ok for boys to be autistic and obsessed with trains or something, but not girls like Wednesday! She can't be!! But Newt? Totally fine...

[@claudiamcghin3419]

It could also be the Fandom. HP fans tend to be more accepting of all types of people and lifestyles.

[@red_velvetcake1759]

I always thought Wednesday had ASPD rather than Autism, but I've not seen the new series so I don't know if this has carried over and people are getting the two mixed, or if she is written differently in this one.

[@Lazy-Oddity]

This video reminds me of when people got mad at LGBTQ+ Encanto headcanons and even at a headcanon that Bruno is autistic, and saying how it ruins the meaning and culture in Encanto. This made me so angry as a transman Latino who went through generational trauma because these people are basically saying that people in my community can’t be LGBTQ+ or autistic.

[@artsintheam]

i, too, am a transmasc latino and i approve this comment

[@Virtualdream64]

The lack of nuamce with that was wild. Bruno does canonically have at least OCD, and the remaining fandom pretty much agrees that he's also autistic. It's not nearly as popular as it was, but the people left are thankfully chill and don't assume the worst like they did.

[@moonieistired7263]

I am a Hispanic autistic enby Mirabel and Bruno were the first characters who I saw were like me in media. It was so refreshing to finally see characters I relate to, and even shared my heritage Please just let me have this one crumb of representation-

[@SunIsLost]

Yea. As Autistic pony myself and even part of the LGBT, it concerns me.

[@keyaunna.]

i personally believe an exception to the "not written by an autistic person" rule is donnie from rise of the tmnt. I see myself in this character, and the creator mentioned on twitter that donnie was on the spectrum. me and my younger sibling, who is also autistic, loves him. we also really appreciate how he's a soft shell turtle, and wears a protective shell over his. this also heavily implies a reference to physical disability as well. i also headcanon mikey from the same show as adhd coded. i really love the show so much.

[@lotus.277]

i’ll have to check it out. it’s not a fixed rule that autistic representation is bad if not written by an autistic person, sometimes it’s just a bit of a red flag if they are trying to represent us but not including us in the production

[@keyaunna.]

@@lotus.277 it’s on netflix i believe! it’s a very underrated show!

[@keyaunna.]

@@lotus.277 donnie is heavily included in the story, and some episodes even revolve around him. there’s even a part in the movie where his sensory issues are mentionned and it’s part of the plot. it’s very well put in.

[@Piiiiiiiiit]

DONNIE SUPREMACY. Can’t believe a mfing turtle was what made me realize I probably also have low empathy💀💀💀 Also, I think Mikey was mentioned in that same tweet to be intentionally ADHD coded, which is super cool!! I see so much of my younger self in him and it is downright scary. The rep in that show had no damn right to go as hard as it did, but it did anyway and I’m living for it.

[@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel]

tbh i'd even say he gets some of the most focus (except in the movie but thats only because the movie is mostly about leo, casey and raph)

[@ThatElfTorunn]

The outcry over this reminds me so much of when Benedict Cumberbatch lost his ever loving when people were saying Sherlock is autistic, even though John mentions (unfortunately Aspergers) in their version of the stories! It's frustrating to immediately lose respect for someone you once held in high regard because they seem so offended over the idea that a character they play, not even their intellectual property, is suggested to be like you. It's dehumanising and I hate it. Great video, I appreciate you so much. Can't wait to see more of what you do and maybe when I finally kick off my other channel (called aut-thentically me) we can do some collab. You're awesome! I hope you get piles more subscribers because the fact you have less than 300 is an utter sin. Your editing is class and your personality is awesome. You should blow up and I hope you do. I yeet love from Scotland.

[@seesaweffect8095]

benedict cumberbatchs comments on autism are interesting (in a bad way). What i gathered from it is he says making autistic characters who are smart or talented are giving "false hope" because there are some autistic people who are cognitively delayed and its not something thats possible for them. but it clearly shows ignorance of the fact that there are many autistic people who are very talented and make efforts to learn and overcome the obstacles of their disability and i honestly struggle to imagine anything more hurtful and messed up to say to them than that. you have to be very ignorant in the first place to make swooping statements about autism, like cmon dude of the first things anyone learns about autism is that its a spectrum.

[@mathilda6763]

I think the problem with the rare characters that are made with the intend to seem autistic...not only that they are often stereotypical white male...autism is also their thing. (except Entrapta and Donnie from rise of the ninja turtles, I like them) autism is not part of their identity it's the only big thing making them different from other characters and often the autistic traits are depicted as a weakness, laughable or a tragedy (like Sheldon for example)...which of course autism can be disability and we have support needs, but if you introduce a character in a story they should have a function in the plot. they should not be there just to be pitied and laughed at. characters that I head canon as autistic are often characters that play a viable role in the story and are integrated in their circle of friends and family. for example the golden trio in Harry potter...I head canon them all as autistic but they are not alone. they have friends that understand them. they can have relationships. they are not ridiculed for their interests most of the time. i want interesting characters that grow and have agency and at least some of them I would like to see being happy and accepted in what ever they choose to do with their life.

[@robokill387]

Also, often characters made to be autistic end up being bit players in what should be their own story, with neurotypical friends and family getting more development and being treated more sympathetically by the writers.

[@briannasmith7470]

Yessss you are so right.

[@SunIsLost]

Exactly! Yea

[@SunIsLost]

​@@robokill387yep yea

[@RedAngelSophia]

2:51 The term “normie” which is used a lot in the series has actually for a while been a term that neurodivergent people have used to refer to neurotypicals. I mean for a very long time.

[@normanclatcher]

I love that word. And it's only gotten more relevant too, as geek culture has been flooded, appropriated, commodified and gentrified to send us all out to further and further "outside" places.

[@SunIsLost]

Interesting. Yea

[@SunIsLost]

​@@normanclatcheryea

[@SomeGaymerNerd]

I remember seeing a tiktok (or tumblr post, I don't really remember) going over why people love autistic characters in media and wonder "why don't the other characters just be NICE to them?" when they're essentially being shown "the weird kid's" perspective (I was the local weird kid in my elementary school- the bullying got so bad my parents pulled me out)

[@glitterboxx19]

I was a weird kid in elementary school too ( I didn't even know I was autistic, ) I just thought I was being a regular kid my age

[@princewoofmeowthing]

i actually didn't know hyper-empathy was an autistic trait until watching this video!! i used to think "no, there's no way i could be autistic, i don't lack empathy, it's the opposite!!" (screw the symptoms/diagnoses google gives on it's first page for searches) ty for making this video lol

[@pineapple365]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@vanillabeanic]

AH FELLOW CRK FAN SPOTTED IS UR SPECIAL INTEREST CRK AS WELL

[@princewoofmeowthing]

@@vanillabeanic i'm actually not sure if cookie run is one of my special interests necessarily but it was definitely one of my longer hyperfixations!!

[@vanillabeanic]

@@princewoofmeowthing clotted cream cookie was my hyperfixation when my cookie run special interest started!! after three weeks i realized that crk wasn't just a hyperfixation it was a new special interest

[@constellarsys]

VERY GOOD VIDEO!!!! Allistic Tiktokers are soooooo scared of catching the Big Bad Scary Autism it's ridiculous. My personal favorite autistic coded character is Razputin Aquato from the Psychonauts games. He displays SO MANY autistic traits, such as an intense interest in the Psychonauts, vocal and physical stimming, scripting his one-liners, having trouble picking up on social cues, and a whole bunch more. I recommend the game series to anybody with an interest in mental health, well written characters, funky art styles, unique humor, and fun platforming.

[@okaypolastri]

YOU'RE SO RIGHT RAZ IS DEF AUTISTIC CODED

[@pompadorbz9168]

AA I LOVE RAZ!! One of my favorite little guys ever in all of history

[@okaypolastri]

@@pompadorbz9168 YESSSS HE'S JUST A SILLY LITTLE GUY, Y'KNOW?

[@orbismworldbuilding8428]

Psychonauts is great

[@elisazouza]

the high empathy makes so much sense because i always get told im not empathic but i literally have so much of it in me :")

[@maxlovesbeans]

honestly when I was watching Wednesday with my sister, I headcanoned Wednesday as autistic because, as an autistic person, I related to her interest in mysteries and how she was not interested in having convos, as well as many other things. Also it’s kinda sad how people think that autistic people can’t be cool :(

[@blazewarriorwolf]

I’m autistic too! I really need to put in actual pro-autism stuff in my stories. I literally have an asexual scientist character who is extremely laid back for crying out loud! And my alternate self and fursona are autistic because I’m autistic

[@blazewarriorwolf]

@@nuclearcatbaby1131 Very interesting. I have a trans Great Sage, a trans pirate, a non binary knight, a oven and star called Ovenzilla, a planet of pizza inhabited by pizza people, and all sorts of other things

[@nuclearcatbaby1131]

@@blazewarriorwolf Oh cool! You see I think of urinals and men’s room toilets as two different sexes but they have the same gender because they’re both in the men’s room. Gender and sex are decoupled for toilets/urinals unlike in humans (even trans people still have the chromosomes and lack the sexual organs; with toilets there’s no such material difference it’s all how they feel) And laundry machines, dryers and washing machines are also two different sexes/genders and one could say they are a different breed of ovens and dishwashers. Ovens and dryers are the same sex, but different races/species; so are dishwashing machines and clothes washing machines; the oven is married to the dishwasher like how the washer and dryer are married. Also it’s common for laundry machines to be transracial and become a dishwasher/dryer, or vice versa. Oh and laundry machines celebrate their own holidays such as Lint which is when they have to abstain from drinking bleach. That’s the real reason why you can’t wear white after Labor Day. The laundry machines don’t want to do a white load because then they’ll have to drink bleach and violate Lint.

[@blazewarriorwolf]

@@nuclearcatbaby1131 That sounds amazing. Do you post these stories online?

[@nuclearcatbaby1131]

@@blazewarriorwolf Pieces of it can be found on PoopyDada on Deviantart. Also some artwork PoopyDada has made.

[@blazewarriorwolf]

@@nuclearcatbaby1131 Good to know. What an appropriate username lol

[@Diskode48]

Banger video, I see a lot of characters as having ADHD but that’s because that’s what I have so I see it the most in chatacters etc. i definitely headcanon Wednesday and some other characters as autistic and it’s really weird some people get so mad about it.

[@lotus.277]

hey creeper long time :0 yeah people are strange

[@Diskode48]

@@lotus.277 ye it’s been a while LMAO I love videos about neurodivergency so I was like click ☑️People are definitely misunderstanding and rude sometimes can be truly annoying

[@robokill387]

people get mad at it because of ableism. They see it as saying their favourite character has something wrong with them

[@kazeiscool]

Reccently got diagnosed. I was terrified. I'm 22 went my whole life feeling weird. I felt alone. This video really helped. Thank you so much. I don't want to hide anymore.

[@lotus.277]

being undiagnosed for most of your life is really scary, i was only diagnosed a couple of years ago and it's really lonely feeling different and not knowing why. be proud of your diagnosis, it personally made my life make so much more sense, and it can help you find a community and ways to deal with your struggles :)

[@kazeiscool]

@@lotus.277 thank you so much

[@linachan4912]

It’s really interesting hearing about different experiences from late diagnosed to early diagnosed people. I was diagnosed at 10 years old, and I remember hating my diagnosis, since in my child mind I didn’t think there was anything wrong with me. I was in denial about my diagnosis right up until my 30’s, and now I have to face it, something I realised in therapy. I’m still trying to unpack all the shame I had regarding my diagnosis, but things are getting better day by day.

[@kazeiscool]

@@linachan4912 I'm not sure how I would have reacted if I was diagnosed at that age. It's hard to say because I think my parents would have told me it wasn't true. That's kind of how it was with them whenever I brought up the fact that I felt weird. My mom was also very heavily against doctors, psychologists, and use of drugs for mental and even physical health. So I think I likely would have been ashamed of it as well.

[@ThatElfTorunn]

I'll be 39 in July and I am still awaiting my autism and adhd diagnosis, although I expect it to come any time. So much fits since I learned about autism when my eldest was 7. He was officially diagnosed at 11, because it took me so long to get people to listen to me. He and I are so alike it's scary. Remember there's a whole community out there ready and more than willing to accept you and welcome you home dooder (hope you don't mind me using dooder, I'm nb and call everyone dude... always have)

[@aliaaaafr]

I find it interesting that as a self diagnosed autistic person, realizing now that for my whole life, I always had/have favorite characters that were neurodivergent, or neurodivergent coded. Tbh I was constantly surrounding myself with ND people without realizing it (irl and in media) 💞 There's A LOT but the ones that come to my head instantly are Elsa (frozen), ice bear (We bare bears), Wednesday (yess ik it's outdated now but I still love the character design lol), Harley Quinn, Katniss everdeen, Star (star vs forces of evil), Pinkie Pie, Dolores (encanto), so many more. But when I say "favorite character" I MEAN IT. Like some of those characters I would literally hyperfixate on it sm and watch it over and over again and DEVOTE MY LIFE TO ITT

[@formlessentity]

i remember when i said i thought a character was autistic, and someone replied saying something along the lines of 'she just had a bad childhood'. like. ok. thank you for proving my point even more, she would've been more accepted if she wasn't different. many many characters have autistic traits, more so than average in the real world. my theory is that autistic traits tend to be more conducive to storytelling. for example (stereotypes incoming), being an outcast, being much different from most others, struggling with social interaction, fidgeting, getting really excited about a specific thing. this obviously isn't the case with some characters, but almost every story has at least one character that can be easily headcanoned as autistic. maybe i naturally gravitate towards relatable characters, but i can't think of one example where this isn't the case (if someone thinks otherwise please tell me i'm curious). also apologies for the lack of proper grammar.

[@maybe-meadowlark]

My favorite autistic headcannon is Deku from MHA. He has a lot of the same symptoms as me which is probably why I love him so much

[@alexpinkstone5639]

On the topic of MLP, Maud Pie has also been a character widely viewed as autistic - you can point to the monotonousness of her voice, her rock-fascination, carrying Boulder around everywhere and personifying him, and of course, her tendency to be literal about everything ("And what is the delightful frock you're wearing now saying?" "It doesn't talk, it's a dress.") And when Mudbriar later came along, comparisons to Sheldon Cooper were made rather quickly by several bronies - he's overall received mixed reactions from the autism crowd and fanbase in general. I see several comments have mentioned Rainbow Dash being autistic, who also came to my mind - though a particular moment I remember was when she wasn't comfortable with having her hooves touched by anyone else, even if just for a "hooficure", which looking back on it seems perfectly understandable as an ASD guy myself. Some people have also speculated Fluttershy as being on the spectrum, though I'm not so sure myself if she'd fit the bill as well as the other ponies mentioned here and in the video. Twilight and Pinkie Pie will always be among my very favourites from the show, autistic or otherwise, and I certainly can't blame anyone for constantly shipping them together! 😂😂

[@vanillabeanic]

I think the entire Mane 6 is some sort of neurodivergent, actually.

[@glitterboxx19]

I don't think rainbow dash not being comfortable with anyone touching her hooves is a autistic trait entirely because anybody could be uncomfortable with that. ( as for mud briar I understand why a lot of fans didn't like him at first ( to me he seemed like the kind of autistic person that is very unfiltered ( speaks their mind a lot and can come off as rude, even though that's not their intention.

[@alistairrosehearts9734]

I've seen this in some obscure fandoms as well, and with things such as ADHD and personality disorders too. Or like, people getting offended that you dare say a character with canon abuse trauma and shows CPTSD symptoms in canon has CPTSD. Or people will like a character shown to be "fragile" in ways that are chronic illness symptoms or mimick an irl disability, but get offended the second you mention the words disability or chronic illness. In what way does it hurt you specifically if a character has traits that are relatable to someone on the spectrum and thus they headcanon the character as such, or any other disorder. Like, if I want to headcanon a character I relate to with my experiences as an autistic person with BPD and CPTSD as being autistic or having BPD, how does it harm you? If someone wants to headcanon a character has ADHD because the character has experiences similar to their ADHD experiences, how does that harm you? If someone sees their chronic illness/disability symptoms in a character and wants to headcanon them as having their chronic illness/disability, how does that affect you? (not @ you) Neurodivergent, mentally ill and disabled people exist and are normal people just like everyone else. While my cane gives it away that I'm disabled, and my autism is not masked well, I still have friends who like me, disability and autistic traits and all. And people would not be able to tell I have BPD unless I told them. (CPTSD on the other hand... I sometimes fall into the trap of CPTSD brain oversharing about trauma because it's been so normalized I have trouble seeing how it's different from stuff like when someone fell off a trampoline and broke their leg, or couldn't sleep for days after going to a haunted house as a kid). If it really "ruins" a character for you to learn that they're neurodivergent, mentally ill or disabled, then that's just ableism/saneism/etc. And to add two autistic headcanons of my own, Riddle Rosehearts and Trey Clover from Twisted Wonderland. Riddle - difficulty with humor (such as the oyster sauce incident), special interest is the Queen of Hearts, likes strict order, difficulty making friends, emotional disregulation and very picky with food (I also hc him as having BPD, and CPTSD from his upbringing, and those do affect his autistic traits and his autistic traits do affect his BPD and CPTSD traits) Trey - tries too hard in masking (tries so hard to give "I'm just a normal guy" vibes to avoid attention that other characters don't trust him and think he's a massive creep), special interest in teeth/dentistry, at times overly blunt, socially awkward and very expressive with "weird" facial expressions (such as the creepy ass smirk he does sometimes) (I also hc him as having BPD, and like Riddle, Trey's BPD traits and guilt trauma do affect his autistic traits and his autistic traits do affect his BPD traits and guilt trauma) Basically Riddle and Trey are autistic BPD boyfriends with trauma.

[@orbismworldbuilding8428]

Im curious how BPD effects autism and vice versa c:

[@randomasshumanbeing2078]

WELL, all of my favorite characters are autistic.

[@VigasArtRoom]

Good vid! I headcannon some of your character choices like Pinkie or Star as ADHD more than autism, but since those two things can be co-morbid it still works. I don't understand why people get mad at this type of thing. (Well I could. ablelism) Since there's so many autistic people in reality, it would logically make sense for a lot to be in fiction. It shouldn't be a big deal. It's sad that others made it a big deal.

[@applecor2995]

I always say this but your editing is top notch and your takes are both funny and informative in the best way, awesome job lotus

[@lotus.277]

:’)

[@SodaCider641]

I never knew Ice Bear was headcanoned to be autistic! He was nonverbal as a cub and semi-nonverbal as an adult. I did some quick research and found out Grizz has ADHD! Thank you for making my childhood better!

[@GoblinLord]

I think we need more special interests that aren't inherently "useful" to the story, or characters with having multiple special Interests! Especially having both hyperfixations and special interests also the funny thing that happens for me as someone with autism is I have high responsiveness to "emotion" as a concept, I can't pick out what the emotion is, if someone changes their tone to be more coarse, my brain just assumes it's bad, which I think is an aspect of low empathy that should be shown more, for me it can even cause panic where I start saying sorry too much to just end the Bad(tm) scenario on another note, I like to think Entrapta's gloves are a comfort item since she wears them even when not doing tech, like at the Princess Ball

[@avalasialove]

On one hand, I understand why a lot of people suspect Wednesday may be autistic. I can imagine a lot of people relate to her not understanding certain social cues and going against the crowd. On the other hand, her portrayal is what many autistic people get stereotyped as: Monotone robots who lack empathy towards others. I’m autistic myself and I had a difficult time relating to her, mostly because her character came across as too mean-spirited at times. I tend to empathize so fully with others, even fictional characters to a fault. So, I ended up feeling too sorry for Enid after being strung along and having her gift tossed aside. Admittedly, I haven’t finished the series yet. So, there’s still a chance for her to turn things around. No spoilers please! Personally, I’d like to see more autistic characters who actually wear their emotions on their sleeves and aren’t afraid to show how much they care for others.

[@AliXx0608]

I headcanon Ned the pie maker from Pushing Daisies as autistic. Not a really known show, but a lot of the fans do agree about this. It was one of the main reason why it became one of my comfort shows, that, and because it's basically a feel-good show. I'm autistic myself, and have seen a few traits, that I also have, in him. Also, Ned is basically a himbo and they're my favourite archetype. This is something that Bryan Fuller seems to do relatively often, un/intentionally autsitic-coding his main protagonist, which later happened again for Hannibal with Will Graham.

[@jazzypanduh]

Your personality is so calming, thank u for existing 😊

[@Lillyluvsanime]

I always saw myself as a blend of Pinkie Pie and Twilight Sparkle, this is so perfect. Pinkie Pie, more specifically, is AuDHD coded (Autistic and ADHD).

[@lotus.277]

agreed

[@catbeale6141]

Thanks for making me aware of my volume control problems through pinky pie. I feel exsposed.

[@JanVP1]

I still think TBBT should have mentioned that people like us often don't have friends. Following right behind this line: "I have been encouraged, sustained, inspired, and tolerated not only by my wife, but by the greatest group of friends anyone ever had."

[@spacedoodles]

Thank you, I got diagnosed with autism when I was 8 years old and I'm glad to have representation, even just the slightest amount, direct or not. It get's more people to see the truth to autism. Everyone should know by now Autism isn't something to be ashamed of and embrace it. I also like how you mentioned cannot be cured but treated because so many people think autism can go away with a snap of their fingers.

[@KiraTheFoolOfTheFools]

one of my favorite autistic coded character is gotta be Peridot, from Steven universe love that absolute gremlin

[@nicholasclaus9695]

I am actually autistic and I can sense the autism in Wednesday

[@Dinnyeify]

I was so immersed in the joy of character interpretation and people finding parts of themselves in fictional characters that for a while I lived in a world where autism was normalized and generally understood.

[@curetapwater5604]

Wow, the behavior by the people in those TikTok comments is revolting! I'm so used to interacting with fellow neurodivergent people who like to see pieces of ourselves in our favorite characters. I have a number of headcanons, a couple of my favorites being that Tsukino Usagi has ADHD and Shadow the Hedgehog is autistic. I lovelovelove your pony headcanons!! I'd also like to mention Rainbow Dash, especially because of the episode "Testing, Testing, 1 2 3" where it's heavily implied Rainbow Dash is neurodivergent in some way. I love the part where Twilight tells her "you're not dumb, you just learn differently!"

[@lotus.277]

i’ve never watched any sonic stuff, but i definitely agree with your usagi and rainbow headcanons!

[@mimoa769]

For Abed (since I'm hyperfixated on this show and he's the best representation of myself in media i've ever seen) Community came out in 2009 Aspergers was still a thing in the first season, They've also used the terms "autistic", "social disorder", "neurodevelopmental disorder" and "on the spectrum" in the show usually it's him describing himself but he also had a friend that said something along the lines of the "neurotypicals don't understand us" I don't think he's diagnosed in the show but it's pretty canon he's self diagnosed at least

[@lotus.277]

yes, the term asperger’s wasn’t seen as problematic at the time, i just wanted to inform people about why it shouldn’t be used anymore.

[@lotus.277]

also high five for being a fellow autistic person hyperfixated on community

[@mimoa769]

@@lotus.277 okay yeah i understand that no harm in that. I was just letting you know in case you didn’t already that the writers do use other terms for him after Asperger’s stopped being a diagnosis

[@tallussy_hallussy]

OMG COMMUNITY IS MY SPECIAL INTEREST YOU DONT KNOW HOW HAPPY THIS MADE ME 😭😭😭🫶🏻

[@tallussy_hallussy]

@@lotus.277COMMUNITY IS MY SPECIAL INTEREST 😭🫶🏻

[@spacemation8786]

Some of these characters are probably not autistic, but autism is most certainly not a disease

[@blueischiii1575]

Autism is a disability.

[@felixislucky333]

this video perfectly sums up what has been on my mind recently. thank you for articulating this so well!

[@wolfcry087]

It pisses me off that people won't let others headcanon characters as neurodivergent, especially because as an ADHDer myself I saw a lot of traits in Wednesday that made me suspect she was neurodivergent (primarily autistic) and I headcanoned her to be autistic as I watched the series. I'm not finished with the video yet but great content so far! Edit: Hey, no one wants you to shut up. If I did I probably wouldn't have made it to the end of the video but I just did, and that's because I was interested in everything you wanted to say. Don't apologize for oversharing because I really appreciated the intricate details in the explanation behind every autistic character headcanon you had, the highlights helped me understand better (for example, I knew Twlight could be read as autistic but I didn't think of Pinkie Pie that way before- but your explanation made total sense for it!). I understand that living in a dominantly neurotypical society naturally makes us tend to put ourselves down, and that habit may be difficult to break- but I just felt like saying something about it because I felt like you spoke sorta negatively about yourself more than once in this video, and you're not being fair to yourself in that way. I just want you to know you're fine, I don't want you to shut up, and I really appreciate that you made this video. If you can, please try to be easier on yourself, okay? :) Btw, new subscriber lol

[@bluberryva1562]

This is such an awesome vid, your editing and sense of humor is so funny, and I’d love to see more stuff like this, it’s so cool and fun to watch 🥰

[@ANDCFC95]

I canon L from “Death Note” as autistic

[@outsidethewall8488]

As an ADHDer, it's interesting some of the characters you mentioned like Leslie Knope because I always read her as ADHD-coded. But regardless of which neurodivergence, it's clear many of these characters are neurodiverse-coded

[@lotus.277]

honestly a few of these i headcanon as both especially considering the comorbidity- this includes leslie knope

[@outsidethewall8488]

@@lotus.277 that's fair, i can definitely see the arguments for both. Also starting to wonder whether I may be slightly on the spectrum but have always just attributed my sensory issues to ADHD so who knows I might be projecting the same assumption onto Leslie Knope hahaha

[@Sodium_Chloride_And_Sucrose]

ADHD and Autism are a common dual diagnosis! 😃 I believe that Pinkie Pie featured in this video could also be an ADHDer! 😁 also maybe Star aswell!

[@Kinuhbud]

I'm pretty sure me and my sister are both autistic, and her son just got a black kitten who he named after Wednesday...

[@getjinxed6128]

I relate a lot (but like *a lot*) to Twlight Sparkle, yet I'm not autistic...? I mean I see your point but non-autistic people can have the same tropes 🤔 On the other hand, it's nice to see that characters can be seen from multiple angles as they are not categorized by their creators, so anyone could identify 🤗 The most important thing to me is to not try to flag any character as something in particular when it's not mentioned by their creators : that's the beauty of it, so everyone can imagine what they want

[@lotus.277]

yeah it’s just a headcanon. either way allistic people can relate to autistic people and vice versa so ye

[@casualdreamxr7456]

As a neurotypical, i actually find it cool that people headcanon certain characters as autistic. It helps for others to see that 1. Not all autistic people are the same and 2. That autism isn't a disease (like brain cancer is lmao?? Are people on tik tok okay???) It's a different way of processing things and seeing the world, and it ends up being a disability because of how the modern world is structured for neurotypical people (specifically the neurotypical people that fit certain criteria). But it's not inherently a bad thing, and i like how headcanons are a way to show that

[@annihilation_woohoo]

Ranpo from Bungo Stray Dogs, used to annoy me. 3rd season was over, I skipped bonus series, and few years after the last interaction with BSD, I started 4th season, and fell in love with that character. And then it hit me. Ranpo is just extremely autistic coded. My attitude towards neurodivergency just changed, due to positive (even romantic) experience with people on this spectrum, Ranpo didn't.

[@nova4476]

5:48 I appreciate this so much. I’m forced to be around my family 24/7 and they get *very* mad at me because I struggle to communicate.

[@gray42069]

Oh my god the shark plushie!! My comfort item is a shark plushie, it's not exactly like that but its adorable! :D

[@gray42069]

8:30 OKAY SO I MZDE THIS COMMENT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE VID AND IM LITERALLY JUST COMMENTING AS I GO BUT OH MY GOD I HEADCANONED LUZ BEING AUTISTIC BJJDJHGDGH

[@pooranikannan7634]

chronically online perhaps, they are mentioning, it might be misdiagnosing, cause it is seen as trendy or sort? maybe. just a thought.

[@Animedragon12]

How do you misdiagnosed a fictional character

[@granautismo69]

My sister's old teacher said over a zoom meeting that autistic people don't feel empathy, and that ruined my self esteem. I even made a little vent animation about it that I've recently remade.

[@froufroudeluxe]

That’s extremely ignorant, we are more than capable of feeling empathy and most of the time we are more empathetic than neurotypical people! Saying things like that only shows how little empathy that old teacher has

[@elisazouza]

i'm making a video essay on autism and neurodivergent like even as someone whos not diagnosed yet and has tried to be, characters like these comfort me and my experiences

[@katherineksweet]

I saw a tik tok that said she uses her hands to dance and it normalized stimming and she saw it as a positive thing for her son.

[@alface935]

Oh no i have autism so i gonna die in 40 days because it has no cure *Does not die in 40 days* Anyways now back to overexplaning trains because that is what we only do all year lol

[@birbqueen1298]

I think it’s funny that when characters that allistic people like get headcannoned as autistic. They seem to seethe. Similar shit happened with Encanto too.

[@theyxaj]

Lots of my favorite characters are autistic, but I didn't realize that that was what it was until I realized I was autistic. I enjoy thinking of Elsa's journey in Frozen 2 as an autistic story.

[@inactive893]

OMG same! (about Elsa)

[@Beavis-ej3ny]

Abed is my favorite Autistic character. And yes, I think 50% of the characters on BROOKYLN 99 are neurodivergent.

[@tallussy_hallussy]

COMMUNITY IS MY SPECISL INTERST AAAAAAAA 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@carrotcake_love]

someone I know said they were teasing there sister by calling them weird and autistic like what it made me so mad we used to be friends so I regret life decisions

[@kabanzai]

I think my comment would be.. "Well, they keep redefining autism. So maybe?" XD

[@SagaRydberg]

as a allistic person as soon this line in wednesday i realised this might be the case: L: ''The world isnt just black and white, it also has grey scales.'' W: ''Maybe for you, but not me.'' Looked it up afterwards turns out thats a thing and i wasnt delusional :P

[@pompadorbz9168]

Ahhh I love autistic hcs, and I'm glad you ended the video with sharing some of your personal headcanons. It got me thinking about some of my own, so I might as well share them now in the same kind of list form!! Emmet (pokemon black and white): Keeps to schedules and routines, difficulty reading his own actions socially, repetitive speech patterns and vocal tics, some hints of low empathy, and special interests in pokemon battles and trains. Ingo (pokemon black and white... And Legends Arceus): A lot of his traits are similar to Emmet's! Keeping to schedules and routines, special interests in pokemon battles and trains, lack of facial expression, and a lack of volume control. Kiyotaka Ishimaru from Danganronpa: INCREDIBLY strong sense of justice, adheres strictly to rules, black and white view on morality, lack of volume control, keeps tightly to schedules and routines, difficulty picking up on social cues, intense emotion and frequently overwhelmed to tears, hyper-expressive, has a self-assigned dress code, incredibly organized, struggles with (and does not see the purpose of) small talk, difficulty making social connections, low empathy, and highly formal speech the majority of the time. Honestly there's probably even more that I'm somehow forgetting (which is crazy because when it comes to this guy in particular I'm a walking encyclopedia)

[@pedroff_1]

While I usually hesitate to label anyone (let alone fictional characters whose characteristics can be hard to translate to the real world), I have to say it wouldn't be wild to say Wednesday has many autistic traits. And, I have to disagree incidentally autistic characters are necessarily better; it's just that many that are purposely so feel like a checklist for the diagnostic criteria with their autism beong their entire personality. As others have mentioned, Entrapts was actually deliberately autistic and, damn, do I find her one of the best representations out there. She's far from idealized, and, damn, does her Beast Island arc feel personal.

[@sharia.king-trahan28]

Excellent video! I found you on my suggestions I hope more people get a chance to watch your video.

[@yinyangyt8749]

I’m autistic and I find that sometimes I try my hardest to put my thoughts into words sometimes. Also, love your content. You have earned my sub

[@jalejablonsky2396]

Most of these characters I had fun or wanted to be growing up and it makes sense why they’re autistic as hell and I’m autistic. There’s some tension in the air. Lol

[@DAHYPEMAN4115]

I know this video is 2 years old but it's because of this thinking is why I'm having trouble with getting a diagnosis

[@Soupo33366]

My older sis has severe autism and I jus love seeing she isn't alone!

[@davequinn2902]

I actually discovered that I was autistic after the almighty algorithm dropped a compilation of Donatello from Rise of the TMNT into my feed and I randomly decided to watch it. And it pretty much played out as follows: "Haha I relate strongly to this character" *checks comments. Discovers he's canonically autistic* "Wait a minute!" Yeah, then I looked into it and alot of things started making alot of sense

[@-dark-paradise]

About the "art is subjective and anyone can interpret it as they want to" i highly agree on this but also it"s important to point out that if a creator states or gives hints a character is what they are that also should be respected, i myself wouldn"t like it if my queer characters would be headcanoned as straight or cis when i already stated or implied in my work they"re not, i"m sorry if this self explanatory or it"s something obvious to say but i still wanted to pointed it out, your video was really great Now that aside, my personal autistic/adhd headcanon character would be Tsukito Totsuka from the kamigami no asobi anime, sadly the anime is pretty short being only 12 episodes long but the few moments we get to see him i have found certain traits that could be on the spectrum such as overfocusing on things to the point he forgets his own physical needs and surroundings (he focused too much on his duties that he overworked himself) and also misreads social cues, i also think he could also be on the aroace spectrum as well coming from an ace person myself

[@lotus.277]

yes that's true, of course if something is made in a specific way for a specific reason, it's important to respect that- i don't want to support any erasure.

[@aster_11]

My favourite autistic headcanon is Spencer Reid and I stand by it (plus it's been heavily implied)

[@pheonixed8860]

A character i really like to headcanon as just generally neurodivergent is the doctor from doctor who!! Now, a brief explanation before someone comes at me about the whole human vs. alien thing: -the doctor is gallifreyan, and we see the rest of their species quite a lot throughout both the classic and newer series -in these portrayals, most other gallifreyans have so! many! contrasting! personality differences, behaviour, etc, etc. -basically if the gallifreyans were human they would be the neurotypicalest neurotypicals to ever neurotypical (exception is the Master) -and the doctor, if they were human, has so many very noticable neurodivergent traits in every single regeneration! -in conclusion, i think on gallifrey they would be considered neurodivergent :] Some of these traits shown include== impulsiveness, hyperempathy, no empathy, too much eye contact, no sense of rules, doesn't understand social rules (even of their own people), doesn't get gender (though that could be just from regeneration), has trouble hiding/regulating emotions, overstimulation, understimulation, struggles with money, extreme sense of justice, no dress sense (sorry haha), time blindness (even for a time lord), echolalia, hyperfixations, each incarnation seems to have their own special interest, etc., etc. Anyways, maybe you can tell that doctor who is my special interest (lmao), but i would love to discuss ideas about it :]

[@oscqrwqlsh]

this is an incredibly comprehensive and informative video, also rlly enjoyed hearing your headcanons!!!! Nice one!

[@Justalittleguy3848]

I can relate to the whole disorder bad thing . I don't have austisum but I do have adhd and apperantly a few austistic traits . Adhd comes out different forms through different people . for me it like there is a rave going on in my brain . there is a bit of fog and lots of music .

[@ves5657]

also i'm glad i'm not the only autistic person to have related to wednesday addams on some level. also i think another pet peeve of mine is when fans mistake autistic traits in a character for an antisocial personality disorder and for some reason they think that is sOOOO COOL.

[@nicholasluigi2719]

Boyle also has the affinity for linguistics, eg how particular he is about the pronunciation of Nikolaj. Amy is classic afab under the radar overachiever. Aww Chidi. The analysis paralysis is strong. Awesome vid. Fwiw, I'm 38, Christina Ricci's Wednesday was also autistic coded. And so was Morticia in the old TV series. As well as Gomez.

[@tallussy_hallussy]

Ive headcanoned Chidi as autistic ever since I started watching The Good Place when it came out

[@amazingspiderlad]

I always perceived Tina from Bob's Burgers as autistic. She's definitely coded that way and they briefly discuss it in one of the first episodes. Also Tails from Sonic the hedgehog. I can never pick out which ones exactly but I see a lot of my own autistic traits in him, also mechanics is definitely his special interest.

[@lotus.277]

i’ve never watched sonic but i definitely agree with tina. the whole belcher family strikes me as neurodivergent. my headcanon is that tina had it passed down from bob, they both have their monotone groans in common which i think is a shared stim. i think the song with “seems like somethings wrong with me and they know it” can be viewed as both of them struggling to fit in as autistic people.

[@ves5657]

i honestly feel like the whole bob's burgers family is autistic

[@arynpreddy8318]

This feels like people freaking out if the character was dyslexic like ohhhh noooooo

[@HopeGardner3amed]

Robin from ST? Literally spells out her dx criteria. She is uncoordinated, late walker, hates itchy clothes, and has a hard time with making friends..

[@lotus.277]

i forgot to include her! yes i agree

[@niamhs6042]

Yay! I'd really love if Robin was autistic and dyspraxic (could explain the coordination and late walking) because there are no dyspraxic characters anywhere

[@xotoast]

When I figured out I was autistic I realized almost all my favourite characters showed intense autistic traits. If I turn on a show, and I'm like OHMYGOD I LOVE THEM. Later I'm like, "oh. That's some autism"

[@TVDUDRock]

I would add Robin Buckley (Stranger Things) to this list as well. Also I wanted to ask, have you played Horizon? Aloy is a very interesting character to me because she does display a lot of autistic traits, but I think most of them are due to her childhood and trauma, so I don't class her as autistic although I do find her very relatable.

[@tangerinefizz11]

It's funny that they mentioned Tim Burton, since he's autistic.

[@senseisinhue5638]

I autistic and can I say That shark plush is so cute 😊

[@wiiboiwill]

I'd love to hear you thoughts on the representation in Extraordinary Attorney Woo!

[@Civileyez]

Just came across your channel. Thank you for sharing. I look forward to more content. -Civil. 🎩

[@aaausername]

I'm sorry you guys but Wednesday is not the 4th day of the week in my country (and the majority of countries). Sunday is the last day, not the first. I googled it also: 'about 160 countries around the world use Monday as the first day of the week. About 60 use Sunday as their first day… (and about 10 North African countries use Saturday as their first!)'

[@SodaCider641]

I wish you mentioned Donatello from Rise of the TMNT because he’s also good autism representation! He has a monotone voice, has sensory issues (avoids slimy textures), has safe foods (example: flavorless juice), has trouble working with others as well as low empathy. Mikey, the youngest, has ADHD. He’s shown having poor volume control, high empathy, and easily distracted. They make a great duo working together! Well, I believe all of the TMNT are neurodivergent! Let me know if I missed anything or got anything wrong!

[@lotus.277]

I haven't watched rise of the tmnt, and I only wanted to include characters from shows I've watched to avoid spreading any misinformation. But this was mentioned a lot in the comments so I'll have to check it out :)

[@RubyWestDawson]

Lotus: I could probably go on for days, but you probably get the point! Me: NO, KEEP GOING!!!!

[@leephillips4402]

I always saw Wednesday as someone who could read social cues and just chooses not to. Also I see why autistic people would have a problem with this, before it became cool to compare yourself to Wednesday Addams that comparison set us back a lot. It's like Sheldon Cooper or Norman Bates (who also set trans people back quite a bit, but my brother has more opinions on that than I do) the idea that because autistic people aren't good at visibly showing emotions we're like serial killers. That's why I'd get it if autistic people were bothered by this but if it's non-autistic people thinking that's an insult to rocks well, Fuck em.

[@caniscos8396]

Add another character to the list: Huey Duck from ducktales 2017. He has so many autistic traits I'm pretty sure it was done intentionally. Dewey and Louie also have some traits but its more obvious in Huey.

[@anicega]

Oh my gosh, your voice is so soothing 🥺

[@aaausername]

Also kinda random but I feel like a lot of the portrayals of autistics in the media have similar dark brown, short hair.

[@nuclearcatbaby1131]

Wednesday is INTJ. Some autistics are INTJ but more of them tend to be INTP or INFP especially the ones with comorbid ADHD.

[@smcphee8499]

I headcanon Resasuke from Aggretsuko

[@allurajane4979]

LMAO THE MILEY AND RAYA COMMENT SENT ME

[@federicomanuelolveira7658]

I find it curious that neurotypical people are called "holistic", because I don't see the why.

[@lotus.277]

people who aren’t autistic are called “allistic”. sorry if my pronunciation wasn’t clear.

[@federicomanuelolveira7658]

@@lotus.277 oh English is not my first language, maybe that's is the reason i understand the word wrong. That's make much more sense. Thank you

[@lotus.277]

@@federicomanuelolveira7658 no worries, lots of people are unfamiliar with it anyways.

[@somewhat-blue]

@@federicomanuelolveira7658 There are a lot of British accents that drop h’s, so it makes sense that you’d hear it that way!