Your guide to tactical voting in the UK election | Crunched

[@adamwnt]

uk voting system is sick and it should change

[@socialistsolidarity]

The first-past-the-post system is outdated. However, if people keep voting for the Tories we will not see any political reforms. We also ought to think about having an elected House of Lords rather then the unelected scums we have now.

[@imluvinyourmum]

Better than Nazi. This election actually picks your side in the coming USD vs Euro battle, adopt the Euro or keep the Pound, if you stay EU u should adopt the Euro and go head to head. Of course the US will win but you still have the option to go Nazi. 2018 Renewable Energy Investment - US - $65 billion, Germany - $10 billion.Tell me again why Germany is making the rules in a 'Paris Agreement'. Shouldn't the Germans sign up to a 'Toronto Agreement' since they are so far behind? Why send a mentally handicapped Swedish teenager to attack the President with no debate possible when Nazi EU is so far behind? Sounds like Nazi Hitler youth in pigtails propaganda to me.

[@petergreen2552]

We had a referendum in 2012 to change the voting system. It got a 50% turnout and the Tory/Labour support block voted to retain FPTP. You don't even need 40% to win an election now as Blair and Cameron can testify

[@eruno_]

It's either Labour investment or Tory austerity

[@RottingEarth]

Who doesn't want to pay more taxes including pensioners whilst opening the floodgates for unfettered immigration which affects everything? NHS, environment, traffic, less jobs available for everyone already here. Labour live in a fantasy land. It will be a grand day on 13th December when labour realise this is their worst election defeat. The majority of people hate communism and terrorist loving Corbyn.

[@eruno_]

imgur.com/a/H5mrcpk

[@RottingEarth]

@@eruno_ analysis: Jeremy Corbyn is a communist scumbag who will ruin the UK's economy. Increased spending of £89billion is not appealing to the average worker. This will come from increased taxes on EVERYONE and borrowing putting the country further into debt. The Labour party are the party against the British working class and it's too plain to see unless you drink from the delusion of diversity every day and somehow think the UK is an oppressive country.

[@rainer_uncrowned]

Really cba for another five years of Tory rule.

[@kenwaugh7]

Preferential voting would solve this ridiculous situation

[@weakboson7813]

just dont vote tory cheers

[@johnny_pilot]

Thanks, bro'... one eliminated! 🤣

[@benmonk6495]

Tactical vote - dont vote tory, simple!

[@melgrant7404]

@The Colonel what lesson is that

[@Badhat66]

mel grant That they have lost the respect of the working man and woman , the Labour Party have been taken over by the white middle /upper classes whom think it's a hoot to vote for a Marxist like Corbyn , I hope with all my heart Corby and he's cronies are seen off on the 12/12/19 never to be heard of again And that includes Rebecca long bailey

[@melgrant7404]

@@Badhat66 they should have binned off corbyn

[@aleward2628]

@The Colonel your defo a tory 🤮

[@GerryHutch1]

What happened to Robert and his wife, I was waiting for the marriage video...

[@adamboh393]

They got married that’s why they aren’t in the video.

[@FinancialTimes]

Robert and Miranda are still covering the election. We published a new video by them on Friday: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGOxipJsfrStf68. This video here is part of a different series called 'Crunched.' You can see more of them here: kzbin.info/aero/PLrhpR40o4n5ytRMkSrUkYXm55EeVNUi0Q. Tell us what you think.

[@tiborkendeantal9239]

1980: We gonna have flying cars in the future 2020: Teaching people how to vote 2060: The last human on the earth has killed himself in order to save the planet.

[@cwg73160]

One person is going to destroy an entire planet?

[@whymustisignin4this]

If you want Boris Johnson's Brexit Withdrawal Agreement vote Tory. Otherwise, be you a Leaver or a Remainer, vote anything other than the Tories. A vote for the tories is a vote for the current agreement. That's it. Like it or lump it this election is a referendum on this agreement.

[@garypowell1540]

I would put it this way. You vote Tory if you wish to continue to live in a democracy, vote anything else if you don't.

[@retardo9633]

@@garypowell1540 hahaha the words tory and democracy is an oxymoron

[@whymustisignin4this]

@@Lovit-vk5fg Brexit has happened. The Tories were voted in last time around in 2019 and so Boris Johnson's withdrawal agreement - which differed very little from Theresa May's plan - is the Brexit deal you got. It's time to move past Brexit and look at what the country needs to do so that everyone feels things are getting better. Which party do you think is more likely to do that? Or at least not make things worse?

[@peterdavidson3268]

Under First Past The Post, HOW you vote is virtually irrelevant/meaningless because it's already been factored into the electoral calculations of Labour and Conservative Party managers - it's WHERE you votes that really counts! Tactical voting is both necessary and it does works (just ask the electorate in Brecon & Radnorshire constituency), but its efficacy is largely determined by WHERE you are registered to vote. If you live in a very safe seat, hard luck because you'll already know who is going to be your next MP but you could consider vote swapping to make your vote more effective? The need to vote tactically would be eliminated by getting rid of First Past the Post so the real underlying problem here is the UK's busted flush, not fit for purpose, past its sell-by date voting system, so maybe in the longer term your best course of action will be to join the campaign for electoral reform? Having looked at several of these tactical voting sites, the most accurate is tactical.vote/ - Remain United and Best for Britain are obviously skewed towards definite Remain minded parties so where a potential conflict between Labour/LibDem, Labour/SNP, Labour/Plaid Cymru or even Labour/Green arises, they tend to offer the non-Labour alternative, even if most recent voting behaviour, ie. June 2017 General Election result, points to Labour as the obvious candidate for any tactical voter to opt for? tactical.vote/ for tactical voting info www.swapmyvote.uk/ for vote swapping info www.electoral-reform.org.uk/voting-systems/ for general information about voting systems Finally, in my opinion, the best voting system to replace First Past the Post would be Single Transferable Vote [STV] in Multi-Member Constituencies - of course there is no such thing as a perfect voting system but some are much better than others - STV has the most positive attributes and the least negative downsides. STV takes power and influence away from organised political parties and puts it in the hands of the only person who should matter in any public election - THE VOTER!!!

[@jamesBFC1887]

Just dont vote tory. Please just dont. Whatever you think about corbyn or labour, not 5 more years of boris johnson and Tory austerity pls.

[@socialistsolidarity]

I agree...but unfortunately, Britain is largely a conservative country and the country is under the Tory spell.

[@tx5190]

James Bennett-Mcnulty … and Brexit for life.

[@Loli4xiaoyu]

LET ME TELL YOU A JOKE: LABOUR LOL!!!

[@jamesBFC1887]

@pinkie perky have you not seen the Tories tell the truth. Of course you haven't because they never do.

[@jamesBFC1887]

@pinkie perky what's that?

[@catinheels88]

Was a bit confused with the random Harry Potter-esque music in the background... Thought I had another tab open.

[@user-ci4nx6kj8n]

Tactical voting isn’t good democracy. Use your vote for what YOU want.

[@tryxoso2015]

Voting green doesn’t work 😂

[@bicyclemanNL]

I wanted to vote green but they pulled out for labour

[@phueal]

What you’re recommending isn’t democracy either. If one party wins with 40% of the vote, then 60% of the voters are getting someone they didn’t want. Tactical voting is an unfortunate response to a terrible system: First Past the Post isn’t democratic.

[@phueal]

@pinkie perky and I’m a Lib Dem but will be voting Labour! Reforming the electoral system is, I think, the only think that the Lib Dems and the Brexit Party agree on.

[@phueal]

Anyone who thinks the UK electoral system is democracy just look at the election in 2015 when UKIP got 12.6% of the vote, and received 1 MP. Out of 650. 12.6% of the vote, 0.16% of the MPs. The UK is not a democracy.

[@ParcelOfRogue]

The 2017 and 2015 G.E results are not useful guides as to what will happen now. The Euros and Locals were totally different as are most opinion polls. The 2010 G.E result is probably closer as to what will happen. In a particular seat, the party who has held it before may be a better sign as to who can win than the party who came second in 2017.

[@Sillykat321]

The fact that tactical voting is a necessity in the UK is the sign of a failing democracy. This wouldn't be a concern if we had PR.

[@adamsmith307]

Even if I swap my vote with someone in another constituency it won’t count - I live in a Tory stronghold it’s been that way for decades

[@Kosmonooit]

Trying to figure out that accent ...

[@brianhanley8392]

What people tell pollsters and how they actually vote in a general election are not the same - an important point missed in this video. The 2017 results were very different from what people had been telling pollsters in the weeks leading up to the election.

[@adamboh393]

That was a different election mostly because Theresa May was perceived as weak by the end of the campaign and lost all credibility.

[@luxushauseragency]

Do you think that voting should be compulsory for everyone who is entitled?

[@AshleyGlover]

Yeah why not. It really depends on what it means by who is entitled? Should 16 and overs be entitled for example. Maybe the sign up should be compulsory but how to do force everyone to vote.

[@johnpotts8308]

You'd presumably use (something like) an Australian system - you'd be obliged to VISIT a polling station, though not necessarily to vote. So you could still abstain (even if you have to vote, you could spoil your paper or cast a blank vote).

[@davidcockayne3381]

Absolutely not. It's fundamentally illiberal. If people don't like any of the candidates, whatever the reason, or if they don't care about politics, then it's nobody else's business.

[@jak_the_buddha]

No. End of.

[@betsyrocks]

Vote or get shot. I like it.

[@PMMagro]

Why not vote for what you believe in and want? Sure if several parties are close to your heart pick smartly.

[@phueal]

Peter Magro because then your vote may not count.

[@KillingTheMotivation]

Because it hands seats to the party you hate over one you aren’t the biggest fan of

[@coolbreez773]

First FT use state of art tech like Sharpie's for their election analysis now they've invested in Lego Bricks!

[@robduncan599]

When Boris Johnson wins the election and we leave the European Union when a hard Brexit UK becomes Singapore upon Thames , that is when manufacturing will come to a close. Will Boris Johnson PM still be saying F business ? Quickly followed by reunification of Ireland, and Scotland will be a independent country. Never mind Boris Johnson won't be messing up his hair , he'll have very little left !

[@marvincooper5368]

If you want your opinion heard, spoil your vote and write your comment on your ballot paper. Your comments will be read.

[@tx5190]

In answer to a lot of contributors on here. And it is strictly my view... If you really want to vote tactically but confused which party to support in your area use - www.oddschecker.com/politics/constituencies select your area and vote for the shortest price remain party. In the example area used in the video you'll see LibDems are currently more of a threat to the Tories with Labour lagging behind. www.oddschecker.com/politics/constituencies/next-uk-general-election-constituencies/finchley-and-golders-green You could also use the information from the various polling websites and work out your own results by adding up all individual party figures and divide by the number of sources and vote for the party with the highest % that represents your view. I prefer the first method.

[@boulevard14]

That poll graph doesn't look right

[@Philip-x3d]

Tactical Voting. This is where people exploit idiots by telling them NOT to vote for what they want, but to vote HOW THEY TELL THEM TO. Voting is about YOUR CHOICE and not some silly popularity contest where you can say at the end, " hey everyone, I voted for the winner" like you must be REALLY CLEVER. So clever....you didn't get what you wanted and are unlikely to ever do so, if your vote for what you want never gets registered in the first place. Its like going out with a gang of friends say, for an Indian meal. YOU want the Korma, but you know others want the Madras or a Vindaloo and so to appear clever you also vote say Madras so you dont look silly. You also DONT GET your Korma and maybe several others in the group would also have liked a Korma, but were too scared to vote for it in case they also look silly.

[@WelshBathBoy]

I checked my remain voting marginal Lab-Tory constituency, all sites said to vote labour, so they seem to agree with mine at least

[@cfhutgfre]

Give the lib dems your vote. Dont prop up Corbyn. Give her your support. The lib dems are to important. Even if they lose a seat the vote percentage will be recorded

[@stasikapetanos1395]

Anyone else wonder why the guy here encourages people to vote based on the polls even though they have been wrong for nearly a decade?

[@phueal]

Stasi Kapetanos those polls correctly predicted the 2017 result

[@stasikapetanos1395]

@@phueal they predicted a tory landslide, that clearly didn't happen

[@phueal]

@@stasikapetanos1395 not all of them: since the YouGov MRP poll successfully predicted the 2017 election (www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-majority-poll-election-2017-latest-labour-hung-parliament-seats-theresa-may-conservatives-a7764271.html), all pollsters predicting results in individual seats have adopted the MRP methodology for the 2019 election. These polls are likely to be significantly more accurate this time, although they may still be beaten by widespread tactical voting.

[@stasikapetanos1395]

@@phueal I guess we'll have to see but I bet lots of people are yet to decided how they'll vote

[@phueal]

Stasi Kapetanos hopefully so! If they’ve all decided now then the Tories have already won...

[@Badhat66]

No it does not aswe saw with the results last night :-)

[@danbh84]

oops - didn't work did it lol

[@johnny_pilot]

If you know you are at least split between the 'big three', just roll a dice: 1 or 6 for Conservatives, 2 or 5 for Labour and 3 or 4 for Lib Dems. When all's said and done, what a party ACTUALLY does when they have power (Conservatives during their recent term?) is effectively down to a roll of the dice anyway! Do not think that you can think for them! Hope that helps. Good luck everyone! 🤣🤣🤣

[@jorgepeterbarton]

Its not confusing. You vote for the party most likely to win but preferable to the other one likely to win. Rather than who gets full support. It becomes nonsense when libdems say they are the tactical vote when they are almost tied with a 3rd place labour however.

[@chorleycc]

This is the problem. Half the country may be united in terms of voting remain however it is impossible to organise such a large number of people. Therefore you get several fractions of remain, carrying out different polls (some more honest than others), meaning one remain organisation tells you a vote for x is remain whilst the another tell you a vote for y is remain. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

[@KillingTheMotivation]

I don’t believe this is the case. The vast majority of seats have a clear preferred party to vote for. There’s only a few where it’s contentious. In which case just vote the way you want and hope it goes well. Tactically voting as a whole will do more good than bad, even if cost a seat or two. At the last election if just 2% of the anti-tory/UKIP vote tactically voted, (polls suggest far higher did, we don’t know) that took 10 seats from the Tories, that stopped them getting a majority.

[@lucasv9714]

That was a pretty convoluted way to get to the backward conclusion that you should somehow vote Lib Dem in a tight Tory/Labour marginal. THE LAST ELECTION RESULT IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST PREDICTOR OF THE NEXT RESULT. VOTE LABOUR TO STOP THE TORIES.

[@richiesquest3283]

The Labour party used to be a working class party they are now regarded by many as a ethnic party.

[@hpd6433]

tactical voting will not save remain now bxp has pulled out

[@1258-Eckhart]

Sorry, but the fact is that the Remain vote is split down the middle and the Leave vote isn't. Theoretically, the Tories could win all (ALL) the seats in parliament even if 66% voted against them.

[@jamesrichards3183]

so if a tory brexiteer had the choice of voting for a labour or lib dem candidate because the tories had no chance of winning the seat, then they would vote labour because there was still a chance the country would vote leave in a 2nd referendum, whereas the lib dems just want to remain - am i right brexiteers?

[@davidcockayne3381]

I'd say it's simpler. All Brexiteers should vote Tory, irrespective. Every election has its surprises, watch West Bromwich East, for example. Voting Labour could produce a Lab-SNP coalition, and two referenedums: one to reverse Brexit and another to risk the Union. Even a hung parliament is better than that.

[@jamesrichards3183]

you didn't answer the question; the tories have no chance of winning the seat, so who would you vote for if you are a true brexiteer - labour or lib dems? bearing in mind that corbyn is like you; a leaver - whereas johnson was once a remainer. or are you so scared of a corbyn led government that you would rather remain in the eu & be labelled a hypocrite?

[@hpd6433]

hahaha no one over the age of 21 in their right mind are voting labour

[@Dominate955]

I'm under 21 and not voting labour

[@jamesrichards3183]

nobody in their right mind will vote for the tories, unless they are masochists, islamophobic, wealthy or jewish.

[@alanmarr3323]

Watch Radio Free Zeitgesit very interesting!

[@rodoherty1]

I'm sorry but I'm sure you could have had a better crack at a video about tactical voting. Open the video with your best advice ... 1 sentence or 2! Then have your long, rambling conversation and then finish up with a concise summary of your best advice! This video was of no help at all, yet it's 12 minutes long. Surely there is at least _some_ useful advice you could share?!

[@girlperson1]

This will just discourage more people from voting. Nice touch.

[@davidcockayne3381]

Why?

[@davidcockayne3381]

@pinkie perky It strikes me that a lot of otherwise Labour voters will stay at home because they dislike Corbyn but can't bring themselves to vote Tory. But I live in a former mining area where people are old Labour. It's different in metro-land, I dare say.

[@davidcockayne3381]

Why is this difficult? If you're a Leaver, vote Tory. If you're a Remainer vote Lib Dem unless they don't have a chance, in which case vote Labour and at least you might get a second referendum.

[@ethanrawcliffe924]

To some of us, some things matter more than Brexit.

[@davidcockayne3381]

@@ethanrawcliffe924 Yes, fair, enough. Though I'd say that there's probably no issue which isn't going to be markedly affected by the decision to remain or leave.

[@davidcockayne3381]

@Scotty2Hotty 1 I reckon Remonaers need (a) to grow up and learn how to accept defeat, and (b) take some basic lessons in democracy. Remoaning doesn't seem to have done the LibDems much good, I'm happy to say.

[@davidcockayne3381]

@The Colonel I have some sympathy given that Corbyn is about to blame the British Armed Forces for terrorism. However, it's not the streets that are the problem but the universities. They are almost entirely dominated by the left and far left who believe that all the world's present and past ills are to be blamed on the US, Britain, free enterprise, white people and men. Needless to say, they hold the working class in utter contempt.

[@JennySparkz]

Tactical Voting haaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, cough, cough, hahahahahahahahahaha

[@Zurvan101]

Vote tactically, vote for the Tories to keep a communist out of power.

[@player-ic9yj]

Corbyn is a social democrat😂

[@Zurvan101]

@@player-ic9yj "under socialism you will all cooperate " Jeremy Corbyn. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHzVaKWAqbVkf6s

[@aleward2628]

Boomer

[@alongsleep]

Get Brexit done!

[@melgrant7404]

Take a shot every time it's mentioned

[@justtheouch]

If you want Brexit done, you have to vote Labour. The Conservatives have proven these past three years that they cannot get Brexit through parliament-that's why Labour is turning to the people to give them a new mandate to complete it in 6 months. A vote for the Conservatives is a vote for another 3 years of stalling and delay to Brexit.

[@melgrant7404]

@@justtheouch it seems that every time a deal is reached nobody agrees on it.will parliament ever agree on it.you are correct in saying that as it is it won't get through.

[@aleward2628]

No thank you boomer

[@debelae]

I am confused who to vote for 🤔

[@Jamal-Ahmed786]

Just look at the 2017 result for tactical voting

[@phueal]

Please don’t do this: 2017 is a very poor predictor for this election. If you’re only going to look at past results, at least include 2015 and 2010 in your thinking.

[@Jamal-Ahmed786]

@@phueal OK what is your recommendation then? How else am I supposed to know which party is best positioned to unseat the tories in a particular constituence? Different tactical voting sites are giving me different recommendations.

[@phueal]

@@Jamal-Ahmed786 if different sites are giving you different predictions then I'm afraid it's tricky. It depends whether you trust polling (BfB and Remain United) or past elections (tactical.vote) more. Personally I think things have changed since 2017, and that polling is more significant, but you have to make your own judgment. Plus there's the added complication of which site everyone else in your constituency will use since, to be honest, the most important thing is for everyone to vote the same way, regardless of which side they back! I will say that there are a lot of seats which Lib Dems can win but Labour can't, even if Labour have achieved good second place results in the past. That's because it's only the Lib Dems who can realistically receive votes from people who voted Tory last time. That's why I was suggesting including 2010 (when the Lib Dems did much better nationwide), because it might give you a better idea of your constituency's natural instincts. But I'm afraid without knowing your constituency I can't give you better advice than that!

[@Jamal-Ahmed786]

@@phueal I live in a safe labour seat. So I don't need to worry about tactical voting. But I have relatives who live in north east Somerset (Jacob Rees Mogg's constituence). Like me they are anti brexit. In 2017 GE result, labour came second place. But I've been told by my relatives that lib dems are giving out leaflets claiming that they are second place and better positioned to oust JRM as the constituence is a two horse race between tories and lib dems based on recent opinion polls. Tactical voting sites are also giving me different recommendations. I'm totally confused. I advised my relatives to vote labour based on 2017 GE result because to me past election results are the most accurate reliable data unlike opinion polls.

[@phueal]

@Jamal Ahmed you can see what the different tactical voting sites are saying here: dontsplittheremainvote.com/constituency/north-east-somerset.html Honestly I don’t see much chance of unseating Jacob Rees-Mogg... This site shows you a projection based on polling but *not* taking tactical voting into account. It uses the MRP method which has been very successful recently. It puts Labour and Lib Dems more or less equal, but still way behind JRM, even if all of them voted together. They give JRM an 88% chance of winning. www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/cgi-bin/seatdetails.py?seat=Somerset+North Personally, in a seat like this, I would just vote my conscience - for the party I like most - at least your vote will add to the national percentage. Even better, vote Green! They are going to get royally screwed by tactical voting (asked to give up votes everywhere, but not receiving them anywhere except Brighton Pavilion), and they need the national vote share to be taken seriously. I think a lot of them will vote tactically: it would be nice to repay the favour in seats where votes for Labour/LD aren’t going to achieve much.

[@petergreen2552]

It's as easy as ABC_ anyone but conservative

[@andreaceres552]

Peter Green Not anyone, but anyone who has the best chances to beat the conservative in every constituency

[@Armageddon2077]

It's 2019 and they are using paper and markers with Lego. Not a touch screen. Paper, Lego and pens. 2019 people, 2019

[@VME-Brad]

Those are Duplo blocks.

[@Armageddon2077]

@@VME-Brad I stand corrected

[@Jablicek]

Everyone's hi-tech, so back to basics as a meaningless gimmick.

[@Badhat66]

Tactical voting is a dirty way of going about things

[@Badhat66]

Ryan Tandy Why would you assume I have not look into what the party's have to offer

[@benmonk6495]

labour 29% 😂😂

[@AlJalandhari]

So laughably implausible!

[@melgrant7404]

Britain in 5 years😢😢

[@anarki777]

Yeah, FT just promoting tactical voting because they're on the side of remain, obviously.

[@phill2065]

anarki777 oddly enough, the elections arnt just about Brexit, mad I know!

[@anarki777]

@@phill2065 - Yeah, if Labour get in we're going full USSR communist too. GREAT!

[@jibjub2121]

Well why would a financial publication advocate leaving the single market and customs union? Hardly surprising is it...

[@anarki777]

@@jibjub2121 - The only way to prevent BREXIT is a Labour government. With Jeremy Corbyn and his cronies at the reigns that would be far more damaging to the UK economy than BREXIT.

[@samuelthornton9179]

@@anarki777 Then why are FT a newspaper where the average reader is a millionaire, being pro labour? Look at their banner

[@JennySparkz]

Tactical Voting haaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, cough, cough, hahahahahahahahahaha

[@JennySparkz]

Tactical Voting haaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, cough, cough, hahahahahahahahahaha

[@JennySparkz]

Tactical Voting haaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, cough, cough, hahahahahahahahahaha