Tayshia’s Bachelorette FINALE: We Gush. We Sob. We LIVE!

[@emmahoytlowrey]

Not only two engagements this season but two interracial relationships 💛💛

[@aubreydeangelo]

You right!!

[@queridalinton8098]

A win!!! We love to see it!

[@lanerzzz123]

hell yessss!!!

[@preciousnyabami1938]

@@aubreydeangelo ho job in b

[@preciousnyabami1938]

@@queridalinton8098 hu

[@alexathena568]

I’m so glad they brought up how great of a listener Zac is. I noticed that right away and it’s such an important quality. He’s always bringing up conversations they’ve had and memories they share. Reassuring concerns she may have told him in passing. A TRUE KING 👑 😭😂❤️ Ben ALWAYS mentioned how Tayshia made HIM feel and could never give specifics about her. Zac and Tayshia forever haha.

[@zarisadri]

Zac is EVERYTHING. Truly the only bachelor contestant maybe in history I could see as a partner. A feminist, emotionally mature, CONFIDENT, swaggy KING!

[@hannahgokie4423]

Honestly I would have taken an ATFR over the Men Tell All, if I had to pick between the two!

[@jenn6294]

Yea the men tell all Wasn’t even that good

[@caitlinbishop6624]

I was mad that their excuse was COVID & stuff when they did have a men tell all & the AFTR with Clare so ?? It doesn’t make any sense

[@candacenicole7972]

I would have even taken one over zoom or something! Like come on!

[@geriramirez99]

Or take away Clare and Dales update to fit it their ATFR!

[@nicelagirl]

That proposal was the absolute best! It didn't feel fake, cheesy, or overly rehearsed. I literally went from crying one minute to laughing the next. Their chemistry is undeniable. I really hope they make it! In other news, did you hear that Carly and Evan are splitting up?

[@gj1695]

Agree! Wait, what?! Carly and Evan are splitting up?! 😦

[@Chumdaisy]

Remember that Zac is a recovery counselor so he knows how to guide help people through tough times! Of course he is emotionally intelligent

[@zarisadri]

Can you imagine how good he is at his job?

[@maycinquiterio3575]

I work as a recovery assistant and I can vouch that this is the exact type of people that I work with and they are extremely emotionally intelligent and do so much for those fighting addiction

[@tesskellogg]

does he have all 4 pillars of emotional intelligence?

[@chelseygarrett4221]

The fact that Zack told her no matter what she wants to do in life he will always love her made me cry. Especially after seeing what garbage her ex was spewing about why he cheated on her. Saying he thought she'd be bringing more money into the household.

[@HeyNigga100]

I was so confused about that comment but i totally forgot about the stuff her ex said!! Makes it 10x sweeter 🥺

[@hibahh6471]

Omg!!! You're totally right and now I'm crying again.

[@kristinkrauss5610]

100% agree

[@refineholiesticfinest3280]

Please,Help me understand,the ex husband actually said he was expecting tayshia to bring in more money? If that what he actually said then it makes sense when Tayshia ask Zac in their last date before the proposal that would he be okay if at some points in their marriage life she take time outs to be stay at home mom and he has to be financially responsible for the family would he be okay?.tayshia ex is really a piece of work

[@chelseygarrett4221]

@@refineholiesticfinest3280 yes he said that she didn't make as much money as he thought she was going to she didn't give him as much intimacy as he wanted. It was an interview with reality Steve.

[@KateCameron1]

The proposal was so beautiful and romantic. Zac was the perfect guy for her and their energies match so well

[@LovewayKid]

Sean and Catherine had a pretty epic proposal too, don't forget! Been a while since the franchise has had a proposal that heartfelt. I absolutely loved last night's episode and I love them together soooo much!

[@justmemadison]

Rachel and Bryan had a really sweet proposal, too. We all do the whole "never before" thing every season. lol. It happens in politics, too.

[@countrygirl3186]

I think it’s just the excitement that makes us forget the past proposals

[@lowusua2416]

Just an update on Ivan and religion: he said today on Kaitlyn's podcast that he's agnostic. Clearly Tayshia had less feelings for him than the other men left but I can see where that difference would be pretty significant as a Christian. Zac addressed the question in their post show interviews and said he believes in God, that he and Tayshia pray together, and he's really open to further discussions around faith. So, Tayshia doesn't seem to be rigid but is looking for someone who at least believes in the existence of God.

[@carmen5358]

Thanks for posting! I was curious, haha, that's kind of what I thought

[@bonnie.yarbrough]

Lindsey Appiah Which interview did Zac talk about believing in God and praying together?

[@lowusua2416]

@@bonnie.yarbrough I know there were a couple. Here's one: www.elitedaily.com/p/tayshia-adams-zac-clarks-quotes-about-communication-are-everything-exclusive-52462900

[@lowusua2416]

@@bonnie.yarbrough Here's another: www.glamour.com/story/tayshia-adams-bachelorette-finale-interview

[@albataliephillips4271]

Yes absolutely agree. And I think that was a discussion in the fantasy suites without camera.

[@Black_Rose1234]

The whole conversation about Zac being compassionate vs being an empath and his emotional intelligence was beautiful 💛

[@alexathena568]

Yesssss! I’m so excited Bekah is now a King Zac stan 😂🙌🏼 This was such a great season. Tayshia was an amazing bachelorette and I hope they work out long term. That proposal was easily one of the best on the entire show 🥰😍😭

[@alexandrareid4100]

Did anyone catch the shade Ivan threw when he said, "I dont think she picks anyone"?

[@hibahh6471]

Yeah he kinda sounded bitter. Or maybe that was his defensive mechanism. 🤷‍♀️

[@KristinaNorman]

What’s sad is how clueless he really was to think she really liked him because she didn’t. He had NO IDEA about what’s going on and couldn’t believe she liked men above him.

[@skye9092]

If Ben said that they would have been super critical but with Ivan no one cares.

[@marianarojas2167]

Yeah! It sounded kinda bitter. And to be honest, I think he knew he was the "perfect choice" and that kinda went to his head a little bit, probably why Tayshia kept him for such a long time because he seems truly nice and it's so good on paper! But I didn't see a romantic connection there, at least from her side.

[@lowusua2416]

Apparently Zac was pretty quiet and he also didn't talk about his relationship with Tayshia to the guys. Even Tayshia asked him if he was shy early on. He's also 8 years older than Ivan and Ivan's best friend in the house was 26 yr. old Noah. I could see where Ivan didn't really know where Tayshia and Zac were relationally so he couldn't see her choosing Zac. Especially because Tayshia is so bubbly and also because Ivan doesn't have a ton of relationship experience- by his own account he's only brought 1 woman other than Tayshia home. So, I don't think it was shade so much as his (wrong) assessment.

[@bridja1720]

Zac is the guy that you dont need to tell him why didnt you do this or why didnt you do that. He just knows what a women wants. Yaass!

[@gj1695]

That dance. ❤️ That proposal. ❤️ No romantic comedy can compete!

[@candycornjr]

The way I have been manically checking for this ep

[@OfficialPrettyLittleLiars]

FYI, they almost always upload the audio version faster in case you can’t wait :)

[@natashanjoroge4136]

I know!! I kept refreshing my YT feed and its midnight here

[@KristinaNorman]

Check their podcast first, it’s uploaded hours before the YT version

[@winsomethephotog]

🎵"God blessed the broken road that lead me straight to you" 😁😁😁 Truly tho! Dang didn't consider that if Claire wasn't casted then we wouldn't have gotten Zac based on his age! 😱 Wild!

[@adrienemoore1971]

Yessss so many things had to happen for them to meet. It was meant to be ❤️

[@shebaby94]

Plus, Zac lives in New York, and Tayshia has been planning on moving to New York even before the show began filming. ❤️

[@havana56]

Zac has learned to be compassionate, because that is his job and what makes him successful at helping others overcome their addiction. At first, I did not like Zac for Tayshia, but after seeing how this all played out, he showed himself to be a mature, compassionate, caring, understanding, open, and loving man.I hope that he continues to treat her like the Queen that she is, if he can do that, I see a long happy future for them.

[@albataliephillips4271]

I DON'T want a Ben season. No. No. No.

[@itsmecandicemarie]

I was SO MAD we didn't get an update. To the point I was walking around my house raging. 😂🤣😂

[@remismusic]

i dont know who you are but im picturing this and its hilarious lol

[@camno-n2x]

Girl I feel this 💯 😩😭😭

[@shannonkahermanes6080]

I feel like I’ve never seen a couple as ready to get engaged on the show. This was such a sweet ending.

[@Chumdaisy]

I don’t know why, but I feel that Ben is going to be like Dean in BiP

[@T-antonia]

I feel like he’s trying to be the next Tyler C

[@kparker905]

Oh no, I hope not! Can we acknowledge how cute Dean and Rachel were together, but then the SHOW really messed with Dean's head with his whole hometown, because they brought his dad and tried to make Dean confront his father about being an absent parent and making Dean raise himself??! That was a lot! Remember Dean hadn't even spoken to the guy ONCE since he'd graduated college, and for good reason, because after that (his hometown) was when he started spiraling. I just think the show needs to take a little bit more responsibility for what they do to people, or at least provide mandatory counseling

[@kparker905]

Here's the clip of Dean and Rachel being super cute vm.tiktok.com/ZMJsBD8m4/

[@johnnywilson9128]

T A I honestly don’t think anyone is ever going to come close to Tyler C

[@oth23hugger44]

@@T-antonia I really do not get the hate for Ben. Tyler C literally said that because of the show, he totally takes advantage of those dms. How can people judge Ben for what he has supposedly done, but not acknowledge that Tyler C is also holding onto that 15 minutes. I love Tyler but c'mon. I do not get why people are picking and choosing who they judge here. It just is crazy to me

[@Ana-xq3yr]

Bekah's Neil Lane impression needs to be a regular on the podcast 😂💎

[@albataliephillips4271]

This. Zac and Tayshia. This is what I have been looking for. This is why I watch this show.

[@lailasessentials3985]

The Neil Lane part was everything!!! I haven't laughed that hard in a LOOOONG time. Thank you ladies for the laugh.

[@amandamoore6789]

I’ve only been refreshing KZbin all day waiting for this episode.... FINALLY. Love you both 😂❤️

[@nikkirass8072]

Same here girl.

[@DoNotFeed_AfterMidnight]

Thank you, Jess and Becca, so much for the content you put out. 2020 has been a hell of a year,, but you've been part of the silver lining . The Bacheloretter/next day recap has been the highlight of my week. Happy Holidays and best of luck to you in 2021!

[@estizzababawande5640]

Did you guys notice that all the post-credit scenes were of her and Zac? Plus the producers had that clip in Claire's season previews of Tayshia and Zac's wedding photo shoot date. It's always been Zac. Zac and Tay. Love to see it! One season, Two Love Stories. WE LOVE TO SEE IT. Thank you 2020

[@Piscoandmartinis]

I was literally crying laughing at the Neil lane part😂😂😂😂

[@carmen5358]

Same!! Haha

[@albataliephillips4271]

I was just like, 'aww man, I love you guys!'

[@thalia_01]

I literally died laughing when Bekah was imitating Neil Lane lmaoooo that was insane and Jess' reaction is priceless lol xD happy holidays chatty broads!

[@sw4378]

I wasn’t a big fan of zac but I fell in love with him this episode!! that proposal was the sweetest and most genuine love i’ve seen since I started watching the show. he seems to always say the right thing but it doesn’t seem contrived like the stuff ben says. i love him ❤️❤️

[@hannahfrisch1590]

I actually have a feeling that Tayshia sent Ben home BEFORE her conversation with her dad... then she thought the knock on the door was Ben again... but it was her dad saying “so it’s Zac? Are you sure??”

[@kristab6981]

Yes. Or she sent Ben home right after that convo with her dad cause she’s wearing the same outfit during both scenes

[@Alli_bossmama]

That was a great observation, that none of the men asked for Tayshia’s dad’s permission to marry her! I loved it. Tayshia is a fully grown woman who’s been married and divorced already. She can make her own decisions. There’s no reason for antiquated traditions to be forced on her, if it’s not something that she realistically feels she needs to happen, or if her guy doesn’t feel like he needed that validation either.

[@christinem7711]

My mom and I were crying!! And now of course I’m totally in love with zac and her together. Good guys always win!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@albataliephillips4271]

What makes me optimistic is that both Tayshia and Zac are committed to make their marriage work!

[@dailey5476]

🤣🤣🤣 Bekah singing “The Incredibles” theme song when she was thinking of 007 James Bond is the funniest thing! Lmao!

[@lenaj2696]

Yes 2 engagements. So this season is the most productive season ever!

[@ilovepotatoesforever9818]

Maybe they should all happen over the simmer time on a resort!

[@heresnancy2651]

Love when Bekah starts up one of her hilarious rants and Jess laughs so hard she can hardly breathe. I'm doing the same.

[@derlo9205]

Clarky and The Queen! Best thing in 2020 besides 2 Taylor Swift albums!! Xoxo Love your podcast ladies!!

[@oliviaclaire7474]

When Bekah looks at her lip gloss all weird is exactly why I wait to WATCH the pod😂

[@ShaniceXO26]

Welcome to Team Zac Bekah 😂 your comments about him rubbed me the wrong way but I’m glad you came around to him. He’s a gem!!

[@lenaj2696]

Thanks Chatty Broads! This is the best bachelorette season and what a perfect ending! Great job with the recap

[@sevensup1717]

Oh my goodness, what a gut wrenching ending. I cried (tears of happiness) continuously. She made her short time more exciting than any as far back as I can remember. Who would have thunk it...2 people who in the end, truly looking for a relationship/love. Tashia went in with a real mission, to find her forever after. The men in her season were amazingly mature. I hope future leads use her process as an example. I must admit, I didn’t see this coming but I was a 100% believer during this episode. Though there were many great choices, watching them together, I believe she picked “her” best match. Looking forward to watching them grow!

[@MorganCPaige]

Here’s what I think: I think some of tayshias strongest qualities are her massive empathy and her perceptiveness, you can tell she feels things out and trusts her gut. I think she also genuinely hates hurting other people and it hyper aware of it. The whole season she seemed to know which men would be the most hurt, and found different ways to navigate to inflict as little pain as possible. We all are in agreement that Ivan and T are very compatible and seem very strong as a couple - they just lack that little bit of extra chemistry. I think T really truly liked Ivan, but I think she respected and admired him even more especially after meeting his family. I think she’s known for a long time that she would not end up with him. But Brendan leaving early on his own really cemented that while also putting her in a bit of a bind. Because now Ivan is in the final two. Ivan seems to be very bright eyed and bushy tailed when it comes to romance and love. Very optimistic and has not been through the kind of heartache and sorrow you gain from having a marriage or relationship fail. So enter Ben - she likes Ben, but she has already broken up with him once. He came back on his own accord, this gives T an out. Because now she has an opportunity to send Ivan home now and just let Ben be the runner-up. After all, he literally came back himself after he was let down. I don’t think she ever had any intention of pursuing Ben again, but just let him stay as a place holder. We see on the show T was wearing a blue denim dress the day after meeting the parents when her father came to have a little come to Jesus meeting with her. When she breaks up with Ben what is she wearing? The same denim dress. I think she literally went to break up with Ben directly after talking to her father, and they just edited the timeline. If she had kept Ivan, he would either have been dragged through even more of the process like meeting her family and just deepening his feelings for her. He may have even gotten to the last rose ceremony and would have had his proposal turned down. I think T knew that this would absolutely crush him, probably far more than Ben. Ivan has a very sweet disposition and optimistic outlook, he’s almost child like but in the best way possible. I don’t think T wanted to crush his hope and spirit anymore than she had to. She didn’t want to add insult to injury. But she also knew ABC needed a smooth finale after the last few dumpster fire seasons. So she allowed Ben to come back, sent Ivan home to avoid leading him on - then broke up with Ben long before he ever had to pick out a ring or any of that nonsense. I think she was playing the game with some strategy while also truly searching for love, and I’m so glad she found it.

[@fshomarlen]

i’ve been refreshing your youtube page all morning! i’m ready to be in the feels with y’all

[@annieliebert]

For me, the last best, most loving proposal was Sean and Catherine. And then yeah, Trista and Ryan. Now T&Z! This one was up there with those. I picked Zac for Tayshia from the beginning. Yay!

[@beautybliss21]

Tayshia said in an interview with Glamour Mag she had her date with Zac first then she spoke to her dad and broke up with Ben after that.

[@ananyarajaraman3430]

THANK GOD I’ve been waiting for this one!!!

[@Amandaaalynnn]

Either this is one of your funniest episodes or I'm just really stoned. Either way, I loved it. 😂

[@CARATMom]

The Bachelor needs to update the age requirement because I love the dynamic between Zac and Tayshia but I also think it is why we had a great group of guys because guys like Riley and Zac set the maturity tone among the men.

[@stmart4097]

Thank you broads for making this quarantine season so great. I love your recaps and can't wait for next seasons recap. You keep it real and are so on point with predictions. See you broads in 2021!

[@amara523]

someone needs to tell bennet to take a emotional intelligence seminar from zac

[@lenaj2696]

Right! Zac has the most EQ from the bunch!

[@ShaniceXO26]

The Neil Lane impression got me weak. Y’all are crazy af 😂😂

[@heatherbocks]

Love that Zac (seemingly) didn’t ask Dadams for Taysia’s hand. I would hate that. My dad doesn’t own me or make my decisions. Thanks.

[@rebeccafrost7419]

Whenever you guys talk about Neil Lane I literally can’t breath 😭😭😭🤣

[@Skeezer66]

I love Shall We Dance SO MUCH, I've seen 3 different versions, including the original (in Japanese)! All three Outstanding!! My favorite moment in the show was when Tayshia was walking away from Zac for the last time before the Final Rose. She's almost to the gate, turns around, and looks at him again with a huge smile. That has happened to me twice, both times the same woman. We are NOT together, but I cherish those moments and will all my life.

[@anniebanana3698]

My theory is that she allowed Ben to come back because he said he loved her and given that Ivan had only declared that he was falling in love with her, she had the choice between choosing a man who wasn't fully there and one that was. This way both Ben and Zac were IN LOVE with her. I think that would've swayed my decision as well, not to mention the physical chemistry between her and Zac. It's interesting but in the moment she kissed Ben, I also thought I would've done that and then been frustrated with myself. I would've done that because having someone declare their love for me would have felt safe and amazing and I would've needed to physically show how much I felt that and how much it meant to me. In addition, seeing her get physical in the way that she did with Ben made it so clear that she never had that kind of physical reaction to Ivan. With Ivan, there was a real lack of chemistry and they truly did seem like friends more than partners.

[@stephw7206]

Welllllll look at Bekah have a turn around on Zac now 😂😂😂😂❤️ a king

[@kianafawcett-paul2905]

I have to say, my favourite part of the episodes are when Jess & Bekah do these skits of people AKA Master Bennett & Ed the Henchman, Designer Carrie, Neil Lane.... I need a video with all of these skits combined

[@kendradahlstromerickson7793]

Thanks for a great year of listening. You broads have brightened my weeks ❤️

[@mykidsaresupercute]

Matt's season looks like a horror flick! I'm intrigued and terrified. The girls looked very immature from the clip though.

[@carmen5358]

Yess!! Good description lol

[@sabrinasimaan5061]

The billboard I saw said “a Matt made in heaven”

[@KaraDep87]

🤮

[@ashfromvenus]

oh my gosh

[@heathernewbold406]

I’m equally enthusiastic about Tayshia and Zac! You both made great points!

[@devin597]

YESSS IVE BEEN WAITING

[@meganchristine1132]

My favorite recap! Have never clicked faster on a KZbin video.

[@justmemadison]

I think Brian and Rachel had a pretty good engagement, too. They seemed very in love and they still seem to be doing well...I know, looks can be deceiving and I worry with them spending so much time apart so early in their relationship/marriage, but I think it was true love when he proposed. I wish Zac and Tayshia nothing but love and happiness for a lifetime. Only time will tell...she is different in that her feelings are not clear -- she is not easy to read and when she is done, she is done. She didn't cry when she sent home the guys she cared most about. You could feel something different with her and Ivan -- there was a coldness between them before she sent him home that wasn't there all season -- she wasn't going to pick him, but something pushed her from caring about him, but not having "those" feelings about him to not having any feelings about him either way (he didn't seem really surprised either -- it seems something happened that we didn't see). Regardless, it was just an example of her shutting all the way down -- she knew she wasn't going to pick him so why was she so upset about his beliefs. I'm just saying, it could be tough to navigate. Zac could make an innocent mistake and it will be over. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's just my observation from watching this season. She has PTSD from her previous marriage and she's going to have to deal with it before a relationship with anyone will work. Maybe Zac will be the reason and the support she needs to work through it, but I'm not sure she recognizes that she hasn't conquered all the demons yet. Meaning, she thinks she has done the work and Zac will be blamed for everything that doesn't goes well.

[@coppersulphate002]

I agree! Thank you for giving a solid analysis! I was thinking the same

[@Sasfierce45.67]

I agree with you. I think there are still somethings tayshia needs to work through in regards to the pain of her first marriage. Just hope she doesnt take it out on Zac

[@Black_Rose1234]

Speaking of Rachel and Bryan, I watched a podcast with the two of them a few days ago. They are solid, Bryan just turned 40, is is solid and mature. They are going to be fine even with the distance...

[@justmemadison]

@@Black_Rose1234 We probably watched the same podcast...I can picture it in my mind, but I can't remember what podcast it was. Ugh. Getting old sucks. lol They do seem to be doing well, I just worry all the time apart is going to take it's toll. It's bad enough to be "bi-coastal" in normal times, but with all the restrictions due to the virus might be affecting their ability to see each other like they may have originally planned. I don't know, I just want to see them make it. Hope you're enjoying your holidays during these trying times. Smiles.

[@Black_Rose1234]

@@justmemadison You are absolutely right, it can be tough with Covid and them being bi coastal, but I have faith, I think they'll be fine in the long run... Aww, thank you for the wisbes. I'm enjoying my holidays with my family. I hope you are too. Happy Holidays to you and yours.

[@ze1980]

at the proposal part the "contestant" usuallllyyy does let the lead say something before they propose OR before they break up with them. Zac's not the first to do that, but still so heartfelt!

[@mykidsaresupercute]

You did touch on Chris H. acting weird when Tayshia came in for the proposal. She was obviously excited and he was like, what's wrong with you? It was bizarre.

[@christinamason3297]

Zach was awesome with her. They make such a good couple.

[@AbstractMindsThinkAlike]

She said Matthew McConaughey is her Hollywood crush, so Zac definitely fits the bill!

[@tamikkajohnson1589]

It was noted that because Zac didn't watch the show, he didn't know that she could have had the second man propose to her.

[@18Mymuse]

zac and tayshia are so cute together!

[@M-L350]

AH you guys alwaysssss say EXACTLY what i’m thinking!!!! love it

[@avaloneckert1257]

Bekah is cracking me up with the Neil lane impressions. She's growing on me

[@melissabruemmer6748]

That was the best proposal ever! I was full on bawling.

[@ShaniceXO26]

I just checked to see if it was up. I couldn’t wait 😭 yasss

[@ShaniceXO26]

God bless the broken road 😂😂😂😂 I love y’all

[@jadecameron1321]

When Jess said Zac’s ex spoke out my thoughts were his 6th grade gf?

[@carmen5358]

Hahaha

[@oliviawrightt]

I “liked” this video before even watching it 😂

[@oliviawrightt]

I started DYINGGG when Becca was impersonating Neil Lane 😂😂😂😂😂 the sound affects

[@VirgoChick14]

Happy New Year Ladies 💜 I can't wait for more videos :)

[@courtneysmith4099]

I LOVE CHATTY BROADS

[@d.d.1397]

Omg your Neil lane bit at 1:22 omfg 😂😂😂😂 I haven’t laughed that hard in a while

[@andreakrasowski6567]

pls new chatty broads merch that says "be more like zac"

[@Bepositive1987]

The ring part!!! OMG I laughed so hard. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@carmen5358]

Lol the Neil Lane part I was crying laughing 💀

[@bonnie.yarbrough]

Bekah had me cry laughing with that Neil Lane skit lol 😂😂 1:21:41

[@kms5793]

IVAN FOR BACHELOR (EVENTUALLY)

[@jenn6294]

He’s a great guy , but he’s just not charismatic enough for television. Yea I said what I said

[@tahurahossain6012]

Dr. Joe for bach!

[@tahurahossain6012]

He can give us health tips while filming his season lol

[@ShaniceXO26]

Not board games. Bekah’s mom sounds like a gem 😂😂

[@karolineflaate6060]

im so happy you ladies also loved the proposal

[@kparker905]

I don't really know why some people are suddenly speaking negatively of Ben. We already knew that he had a hard time expressing his feelings because he came from a militant family where men weren't expected to emote, and he had a strained relationship with his dad (notice how his parents didn't come to his hometowns) and then Ben joined the US Navy which is definitely not known for helping men men express themselves freely, etc. He's overcome a lot and I think it's admirable, but he still has a lot of work to do I just don't see why this episode in particular is changing people's opinions of him.

[@beatrice2236]

I don't like a lot of what he did that I do understand him and believe him a little more after watching him on a different Podcast. I actually think the show did him no favours in a lot of ways

[@Thegoodnewssharer]

Feeling the same way! People are holding him to a different standard than the othes! They hated him then for not expressing himself and now they hate him for saying he loves her too many times🤦🏽‍♀️

[@CitizenZero1]

Remember Zac talks and listens for a living so of course he knows just what people wanna hear. I really hope their r/p lasts. 🤞

[@ShaniceXO26]

Not Mr Tayshia lmfaoooo I love Jess

[@paulojrneto]

I've heard this theory that the real reason Tayshia chose Ben for the final 2 was because she had her mind for Zac after Fantasy Suites and it would be easier for her family to accept Zac compared to Ben, than compared to Ivan.

[@oth23hugger44]

Where did you hear this? I feel like she definitely had more chemistry with Ben than she did Ivan

[@paulojrneto]

@@oth23hugger44 Bachelor Fantake

[@rhondamae1980]

Tayshia cried like crazy letting Blake go, but not one tear when she sent Ivan home ?????

[@lenaj2696]

I think the reason she cried when sending Blake home was because she suddenly realized it’s getting real and tough and she doesn’t want to hurt people

[@lailarana7463]

I am pretty sure Matt's Bachelor season is being filmed at Nemacolin in Resort in PA - I recognize it from Jojo's season (I think)!

[@rainstorm571]

Yea in the freezing fall temp better than a heat wave

[@kaylajasmine824]

The Neil Lane bit had me cryinggggggg omg

[@jedimady]

Great season, great ep, love the Ember mug Bekah's using ❤️

[@emileepalau5007]

IVE BEEN WAITING!!!! LETS GO!!!! So excited

[@jillianmarcellin9702]

I think that Tayshia and Rachels seasons were my favorites cause I truly believed in the ending. I was happy with how it wrapped up and I enjoyed how they both carried themselves. I mean the other seasons were like ehhh. Hannah B was meh (except when she was like I got laid in a windmill), Peter was a good hate-watch, Arie season was only enjoyable because of the women. I was team Ivan tho I wish he was the next Bachelor cause I think his season would be the bomb. Ben was always rubbing me the wrong way tho, he was just cocky.

[@thisiselodie]

Um Ben's tagline/promo would definitely start in Chris Harrison's home as he's relaxing in luxury or doing something "quirky" like ironing his clothes while riding a Peloton and suddenly an "unexpected guest" rings the door bell and it's Ben, "Showing Up, Ready for Love!" Btw my vote is NO to Ben being the Bachelor.

[@lindsay8633]

The Niel lane ring bit fricking killed me!!! Tears running down my face!