NEW Cassidy Rework! - HUGE Nerfs to Roadhog Sojourn & Kiriko

[@engineergaming3830]

yo our boi rein is actually getting a buff (the suzu nerf) so happy for him

[@ChuloInYourCulo]

Except now reaper, sym and sojourn can kick his ass even easier now

[@Lol-zw8ks]

FUCKING FINALLY

[@themanwithaplan1460]

Only took like what, 11 seasons.

[@sebastianrodriguez8992]

It's adding up lately reins been doing decently for the past season with this? Honestly I think he's gonna do really well plus the Mei buff might help her to show up more so meis who learn to play em and play with rein will make that experience feel great

[@themanwithaplan1460]

@@sebastianrodriguez8992 Yeah with cree changes to ult and mei buffs may just be a brawl meta so alot of rein and ram

[@RansomReflex]

9:13 That lucio snipe tho 😮‍💨

[@french_toast223]

Fuck that frog

[@wp1432]

It’s funny how slowly we are going back to old OW 😂

[@HugeBusch]

I wish they would hurry.

[@Bizz4rr]

because OW2 is just OW1 but everything worse😂

[@alexander2019.]

JQ knife was basically nothing on enemy tanks due to the tank passive. It was useless but now it’s better. It was a joke before.

[@deoxxys]

Yeah it was basically a high skill road hog hook. Roadhog doesn't just not pull tanks in because they have a passive.

[@josephreynolds2401]

I wish the wording in the patch notes was clearer. The change is good but the notes should just say "ignores blah blah blah passive". It makes sense ONLY because JQ is a tank. The wording is flighty, like they don't have a good way that communicates their intent (as if they don't know what their intention is). Fortunately, the other patch notes were easier to understand, though some people pointed out inconsistencies on the Cassidy notes.

[@CaptRespect]

Now increase dooms knock back for tanks too. Pushing tanks out of position is a good percentage of what he does

[@deoxxys]

@@CaptRespect that's probably a fair change they could make in the future if they're looking to increase his viability

[@TheKennyWorld]

I miss McCree stun so much

[@malachite9071]

Funniest shit in existence, the OgCrees remember our days in the sun. Flashbanging a sombra and fanning the hammer in her teeth point blank with a noose spray was peak🤠😂

[@Bizz4rr]

yes flashbank was his identity

[@Chibibowa]

Yeah, McCree was indeed busted back then with his flashbang. Good times. Cassidy can never get to his level.

[@victortestacarlini]

So here's an idea I'd love to hear your thoughts on: What if the role passives were all added as "stats" to all characters and tweakable individually? They already did it to Genji and Tracer as "hidden" movement speed stats, or on Sojourn, Widow and Kiriko on their crit multiplier, so why not on everything else? Same way as "health" is a stat that can be changed, or "armor" can be changed (or even 0'd), knockback resistance (for example) could be an individual stat. I'm thinking about both existing stats, non-existing ones (such as jump height or something like that), or even some that were scrapped (like reload speed upon elimination). This could encompass healing reduction percentage, healing reduction duration, knockback resistance, headshot mitigation percentage, time to proc self-heal, proportion to max hp for self heal, movement speed, crit multiplier, ... This could help giving more tools for balancing, and even (IMO, the most important thing) help making heroes more unique and different from their counterparts. Downside is that the game would be more complex and difficult to track scenarios, but to me this is kinda what makes having a big roster of heroes fun!

[@LordZeroTheNightmare]

other hard knockdowns would probly be the pin/knockdown trades mentioned earlier

[@KevinSmile]

That booster buff on dva is actually huge

[@quantumwitcher9376]

She's already super oppressive

[@cossboss9778]

i have a feeling dev quickly might nerf due to people conplaining cuz man im a god on her now before i cant imagine after lol

[@deoxxys]

​@@quantumwitcher9376I dunno about that, people have been choosing Winston over her way more often.

[@quantumwitcher9376]

@@cossboss9778 she's one of the easiest tanks to use

[@danieljuntunen2320]

​@@cossboss9778you can still just pick zarya and force the enemy dva to swap or lose the game

[@SweetTaleTeller]

Honestly, as a Kiriko player, it never made sense I could instantly shut down Rien's ultimate with E when that's an ultimate, and it takes somebody like LW 2 whole abilities to do half of that shutdown.

[@Silent_Reaper]

LW's platform can shutdown multiple ults too like Zarya and Orisa.

[@SweetTaleTeller]

@@Silent_Reaper Also, Life grip can shut down Tracer's ult

[@Lol-zw8ks]

As a Rein main… thank you

[@Lol-zw8ks]

@@SweetTaleTellerthe life grip on pulse is fine imo bc pulse charges really quick and is single target. As a rein gettin a 3 man slam only for Kiri to completely negate it hurts more than when I play tracer and a pulse is cancelled.

[@SweetTaleTeller]

@@Lol-zw8ks Ya, I always thought it was a little silly that Rien's Shatter counted as a status effect. Rien's ult is hard enough to land as it is you shouldn't be able to shut it down with E.

[@rendknightslaughter7534]

Been wanting them to give Dva her 25 booster damage back since they took it away in S2-S3

[@gavinator1775]

The only reason they added the knock back resistance was because of Lucio boop

[@collinanderson2720]

Are you burnt out on making these? I’m not blaming you or calling you out but are you happy with the state of overwatch right now?

[@mrpetebojangles21]

They should reduce the cooldown on Illari’s destroyed pylon by 2-3 seconds

[@lilrobw]

Yes cause if they even look at it auto 15sec cool down. Or even if they hit it once boom 35sec cool down

[@malachite9071]

I hate mfs playing easter egg hunt with my pylon, i focus the first person who breaks mine in a match to oblivion. Same if im dps and see someone focusing to break my teammate Illaris pylon💋👺

[@Dragonofshame]

1. JQ changes: JQ is the tank i play most. The tank role passive basically made her knife useless against tanks, this is a very good change IMO. 2. Cassidy nade: My problem with mag nade is the lack of counterplay. Old flashbang let you dodge, if you were the better player you could juke the flashbang and survive. Mag nade would completely change directions and follow you all the way into your next match. There was very little counterplay or skill involved, and thus, it was very unfun to play against. I haven't played with the newest iteration yet but it seems like a step in the right direction. 3. Soj changes: Sojourn's one shot has always seemed to be the most frustrating one in the game to me. You can position to break widow LOS, hanzo arrows are incosistent, and perhaps most importantly there's a movement penalty involved with those characters. Sojourn was a flying Widowmaker that doesnt need to stand there scoped in and vulnerable while they line up their shot. Rail gun has a large hitbox and did too much damage for what it was. It was always my biggest complaint about the hero and im glad they're finally doing something more substantial. More often but less damage is much preferable in my eyes.

[@redjustin97]

mei will become a sleeper pick. Being able to two tap is huge. 170 headshot damage hits hard.

[@gazaprince75]

We need more Tank Mythics if pushing this Reinhart skin was all they needed to nerf kiriko lol

[@michaels9595]

Haha that's a insightful take

[@GYCLIPSESY]

Bro I only played Cassidy because he had that magnetic grenade and it was so fun and they replaced it with some flashbang bullshit that doesn't even go more than 5 ft in front of me? That's such fucking bullshit

[@NickCronDeVico]

TIL Deadeye had damage reduction...

[@jojomations2596]

Same

[@toons4934]

Good video freedo! , getting it back buddy. Really like your stuff when your not trying to gaslight me into liking 5v5. Keep it up !

[@TOXICMVP420]

you ain’t streaming no mo?

[@ruvsquirrel]

For me, the fix to Queen’s pullback seems perfectly fine. Otherwise, they might as well reduce the distance Rein’s charge can push another tank backwards if we’re going to keep things “fair”.

[@kujikawathemeekmage3640]

"have we gone too far in hating one shots?" NO BECAUSE THE ONE AND MOST PROBLEMATIC AND MOST CONSISTENT ONE IS STILL IN THE GAME

[@neodaltiair8624]

Sigh no Dragonblade changes, Illari pylon now tanks blade swing lol.

[@johnrodriguez-boggs9159]

Be for real. Zens orb out heals an entire nano blade 💀

[@incognitomode178]

as a cassidy main, i fr want the magnetic grenade back lmao

[@stroads.]

I can't believe there aren't ball changes

[@Apollo13inches]

Didn't he get a complete rework this past season?

[@Kyle_Evers]

What do you think he needs? Ball is honestly pretty damn good right now, tons of survivability

[@emprich3154]

As a Ball main I would literally just be happy with either a slight buff to his cannon damage or keep the cannon spread tight instead of it getting wider. (Oh and delete sombra or for her hack to not be ready to use every 3 fkng seconds)

[@ryansmith2772]

Ball is already one of the most annoying characters in the game.

[@Kyle_Evers]

@@ryansmith2772 complaining about ball when Hog, Orisa, Mauga, and Sombra exist is crazy. Yes he’s good but no where near as cancerous as any of those.

[@commentdouchery2838]

I'm guessing they nerfed Hog's health because some teams can effectively make him immortal. (edit:) we need to start calling Blizzard out on micro buffing Orisa. It already happened once where she was slowly buffed into a monster and they had to hard nerf it back to basics. They need to get on top of whoever is doing this, because it really feels like the deliberate work of one team member who secretly mains the character and doesn't care how long it takes to make her OP again.

[@jauriusmassenburg9085]

That sym buff is about to be crazy!!!

[@sebastianrodriguez8992]

Honestly it's meh she's still very specific where she works and is good outside of that it's aight

[@Ballcheckbob]

Flash bang be banging

[@andrewmartinez4224]

You might think the 10% doesnt affect roadhog. Youre sorely mistaken that will kill the character

[@luroma2814]

I hope so

[@Jake-gb2jd]

good

[@Kyle_Evers]

Thank god

[@tazmanian4874]

Nobody sad about that

[@dmwanderer9454]

It won't kill him lol he went from unkillable to killable like everyone else

[@ezacklee115]

Because hog can pull you like 10metres and the jq knife used to pull normal range until nothing. It was a rework jq needed because can't pulling someone with knife is just sad so thank you

[@kingAngel53103]

Remove deadeye defensive properties and make the scaling off of max % hp for charge to kill making it the same kill time for all heroes

[@jojomations2596]

Illari players eating good, but the half pylon heal is gonna take some getting used to

[@yourmomshouselol]

It means she'll be even more hard countered by sombra.

[@abdx8752]

She was already meta on her good maps so now she’ll be even more aids to deal with

[@yourmomshouselol]

@@abdx8752 L take

[@ssccaappeeggooaatt]

I think it's great to discourage her taking a wild off angle and playing like a Soldier 76+

[@deoxxys]

Only bad part is giving the pylon more health. As a tank it's so irritating to deal with at chokes.

[@marzman4]

Sombra needed a nerf more then any of these other characters

[@corbinrose6750]

Agreed🙄

[@destintofail9092]

Still no 6v6 I’m still not playing ow

[@ritter8542]

I never understood why one-shots were hated so much. It’s a first person SHOOTER. You should be rewarded for being skilled at the game. Hitting a headshot with a sniper and having them live feels awful

[@metazeen]

170 per head shot on a 300hp character is nuts

[@adwdwdwas]

YES! The alternative is better and more interactive. The 1 shots were so uninteractive. Although I'd say widow and hanzo are the main culprits

[@Agent_N7]

The dva buffs and mei buffs are the only ones I like.

[@rodrigomunizaga6518]

It’s not fun that cassidy’s magnade seeks the target… but it is fun that the stupid moira’s orb bounces all over the map and can get a kill with no skill needed :)? This, besides the fact that moiras has an auto-aim with a ridiculous engage distance 👍

[@imclueless9875]

Orisa was hard as hell to kill before, still is, hog is hog, Cass feels so damn bad now its crazy, sojourn dumpstered, QoL for reaper, illari QoL healing buffs, kiri suzu nerf no hard cc's invul.

[@Jughead9t5]

OI! Thrown so much shade on Orisa mains.

[@skalbaggen]

Hanzo buffs where? :/

[@sebastianrodriguez8992]

Never hopefully 🤞🏽

[@jxthenetwork8894]

Swift step should be like 12-14 sec. If u catch a Kiri without it she should just die.

[@adamschroeder5842]

Nothing and I mean nothing is lamer in the game than being clipped in the head by the hanzo player just spamming auto attacks. No, we haven’t gone far enough to nuke the one shots.

[@Oliverelgato1]

If u die like that u suck

[@josephreynolds2401]

Hanzo has no one shot anymore. So what's the beef?

[@chinsanity9313]

DVA buff seems unnecessary, but I ain’t complaining lol gonna be a fun season for me😂

[@Joshua-xm1kv]

the issue with Sojo is she has been in the meta since ow2 launch even in the beta of it. She was and has been predominantly problematic since launch. I think she has had one season where she wasnt as prominent. Thats just my opinion. Like legit you swap sojo and win half the time. her skill ceiling is to low for the amount she can do.

[@fernandom.g9952]

No gengi and hanzo buffs? Alright I know where the door is.

[@notreya]

pretty light balance changes. idk about a lot of them; will need to feel them out in game.

[@sebastianrodriguez8992]

Light but honestly been feeling pretty good I'd prefer this style but more often so we can feel out some of these changes and how they settle before jumbling the meta again with huge changes

[@hate-po8bn]

idk i like previously nade more after i try this new shit in game, its just too short range

[@ingwiafraujaz3126]

Now just neef 6v6 to make tank fun again.

[@lamsauce4266]

As a tank main, these changes make me happy.

[@Secret0zv]

Cassidy "rework" wasn't even a rework, it was just nerfs to everything and renaming an ability, altho high noon is slightly better now.

[@wargex]

That's sick that McAss can just aeo stun everyone within 4 meters by grenading his feet. At least OG flash had some skill to it.

[@bradmiles1984]

No he can't, it's a hinder not a stun. Apparently, you didn't pay attention.

[@wargex]

@@bradmiles1984 dork, I don't gaf about your semantics CC is CC. It took SKILL for OG flash. This is STILL just a guaranteed one shot on Tracer. No skill, no aim, look at feet, AOE stun, 1 shot. McAss was designed for infants to play, the Mercy of DPS. The patch nots say it's not a "full stun" they/ still/ calling/ it/ a/ stun.

[@wargex]

@@bradmiles1984 I don't gaf about your semantics CC is CC. It took SKILL for OG flash. This is STILL just a guaranteed one shot on Tracer. No skill, no aim, look at feet, AOE stun, 1 shot. McAss was designed for infants to play, the Mercy of DPS. The patch notes say it's not a "full stun" devs/ still/ calling/ hinder/ a/ stun.

[@bradmiles1984]

@@wargex If you get close enough the mcree can throw it as his feet and stun you then you have no skill. Maybe position better, the change is way batter then him being able to hailmary it across the map then will lock and can follow a blinking tracer.

[@wargex]

@@bradmiles1984 it's old flash with training wheels on buttercup. You have no idea how to play Tracer. Old McAss could *still do that* but it wasn't a "give me" as annoying as it was you had to have *S K I L L*. I never said it was worse than magnetic. If you want to argue things nobody said, go somewhere else and do it.

[@thedarkcranberry]

Honestly, I can't keep up these days. I'm 2 or 3 patches behind and I probably will just never play again.

[@deoxxys]

As long as you got your core mechanics down you don't have to follow every little change

[@TheDevos1]

Man they need to do way bigger patches in seasons with no hero, cuz wth is this.

[@kohai-kun9261]

Imagine getting a whole game for free and whining that content isn't coming out fast enough for you Wild

[@TheDevos1]

@@kohai-kun9261 I’m not whining…I just want bigger patches. I’m still gonna play the game and I still enjoy it. Tf is wrong with you 😭

[@TheDevos1]

@@kohai-kun9261 and where did I say anything about the speed of content. I said I would like bigger patches in seasons without heroes…we get patches every season, I would just like them to be more interesting. You don’t even make sense.

[@omarw007]

I do jot mind a battle pass but do not make me pay 70$ for a game then also add a battle pass and direct buys etc. Allot of times it also just feels like the game is incomplete onpurpose same issue we had in the dlc model

[@wezzy6192]

Every rail sojourn nurf is welcomed imo. Getting 1 shot by rail never feels good

[@corbinrose6750]

Especially as a Widow main there’s no way to counter her, let alone be able to react quick enough😭

[@wezzy6192]

@@corbinrose6750 widow with wheels😂😂

[@blaisemoffa1823]

The changes to sojourn are actually so dogshit lol.. A full charged crit rail at 195 is perfectly with the health pool changes. What’s the point of making her more like soldier..

[@rexoverwatch]

7v7 no hero limits

[@FrancoDFernando]

They need to make it so Rein can shatter Maura’s charge

[@deoxxys]

😂 then they'd have to rename the ability to stoppable

[@sebastianrodriguez8992]

Eh I think his charge being unstoppable is fine it's neat and is like one of the only things he has to be mindful of when using it in case you want to use it for reaction to a cc

[@Chibibowa]

Jesse McCree :)

[@_korbo_]

that mccree change sounds like absolute garbage tbh. Not excited at all.

[@SauceSlave]

These changes don't make the gameplay better. Bring back 6v6

[@greatwhitnorth]

Whenever Roadhog gets nerfed an angel gains their wings

[@TheBlackBantha]

*Whenever Roadhog gets nerfed a fuckboy gains their wings

[@deoxxys]

I'm probably never going to use him after this unless they buff him again

[@sebastianrodriguez8992]

​@@deoxxysHe's still pretty damn good you just gotta start actually using your brain now but overall the bronze players abusing hog aren't that good anymore but actually decent hog players are still doing there thing

[@dmwanderer9454]

Swift Step should be 12 seconds

[@SilentMeDude]

Sym just needs her right click reverted back to ow1 already… what people don’t understand about sym is her left click and health don’t need to be buffed! HER RIGHT CLICK DOES!!!!!

[@JordanYee]

Eww, you want the slowass phase-through-everything boba balls back?? Her right-click is fine. Her beam is what's garbage. It's so feast or famine. Either you farm a tank and become insane, or you're useless in a fight with any other character.

[@romanrm1]

And left click to OW1 too please :3

[@SilentMeDude]

@@JordanYee your peak is my alt account. All while working 50 hours a week, married with two kids. Yes I absolutely want that “slow ass” right click that I used to hit mid masters one tricking sym… (even though I got to mid masters on ow2 one tricking sym also 🤣). I never counter swapped, never changed characters, never asked my teammates to swap in open que or role que. I hardly used her left click tbh. Her right click with tele turret bomb, was game over. The plays with that over beam is what matters, only reason you use beam if there was a shield in front of you. You hit two of those it’s a kill to any squishy. Busted up tanks. Her right click on off angles is ten times better than her left click brother I promise you that… On top of that what doesn’t help sym is the new trash ass game modes. PLEASE BRING BACK 2CP!!!!!!! The newer game mode they just trialed not to long ago was decent because it truly gave that attack and defense feel again, instead of these terrible team death match type game modes they have been releasing. Overall the state of the game is terrible now anyways lol. Bringing back her right click is the only reason I’d come back at this point 🤣

[@SilentMeDude]

@@romanrm1 haha the new aim like when she was support? 🤣

[@JordanYee]

@@SilentMeDude oooh, you mean the late OW1 post rework 1 right clicks. That was fine. I thought you meant the SUPER slow launch balls that went through barriers like mini Hanzo dragons. That was ass. I wouldn't mind the pharah rocket balls from the post role queue era back although I still think the faster "d20s" fit OW2 better. 2CP should stay dead though. The new clash fits the feel of 2cp while being much healthier imo. As much as I loved TPing the whole team through the choke on 2cp, it was just not good for the game as a whole.

[@whateversayiam]

This Cassidy rework might be the worst shit I’ve ever seen

[@Shiftarus]

Hinder was bullshit before. Now it's more balanced and at least requires thought to use

[@ihavenonamek733]

No its 5v5. That's the worst shit. Stop playing because of that shit.

[@whateversayiam]

@@Shiftarus there’s only like 5 Cassidy mains in GM/TOP500 I think there’s a reason for that

[@wargex]

​@@Shiftarusyes looking at your feet to stun anyone within a 4 meter range of you is going to take so much thought.

[@aursunao2817]

Mcreedy I'll die on that hill.

[@Loboking2015]

Thank God. I hated Cassidy's mag nade

[@astyros1061]

Yo rein buff

[@Johnny-pi1lg]

Buff bastion PLEASEE HES A FORGOTTEN HEROO!!

[@JoaoPedro-sm6oi]

3:03 Overbuff is not a good sorce of info, only people with open profile appear on their stats

[@crossdaboss8914]

From what I seen even in those cases the numbers are very close to what the devs tend to talk about

[@dusergaming7252]

Devs have openly confirmed the samples on overbuff are very close to what they got

[@JoaoPedro-sm6oi]

@@crossdaboss8914 Not really, people just use it for confirmation bias for when the stats show what they want.

[@crossdaboss8914]

@JoaoPedro-sm6oi the devs have came out and said overbuff is very close to the stats they see

[@JoaoPedro-sm6oi]

​@@crossdaboss8914 they also said "don't have the complete picture" and "generally fairly close" and only for win rates, this is not a good source of info, and it's not how data analyses work.

[@FrancoDFernando]

That mutual knockdown needs to apply to Mauga's charge vs other charges. He currently just charges through Rein's pin, Doom's punch, etc...BS

[@deoxxys]

😂 It's almost as if the ability is called "unstoppable"

[@FrancoDFernando]

@@deoxxys lol I don't care what it's called...it's bad character design and everyone hates playing against Mauga

[@brockrodriguez8618]

Lollllll tanks still feel terrible and they go and buff reaper, sym, mei, and soj. Love to see it

[@deoxxys]

Symmetra is the only one here that really benefits against tanks since she can feed off their barriers. Reapers shotguns still aren't great against armor and mei got her icicle size reduced as a trade-off for 10 more damage. That buff is really only good for two shotting squishies.

[@zireael66]

F dis games

[@poppaprinny1391]

I like their thought process is that hog is doing well in midseason 10 but have lost 7 games in a row because every character gets to look at the person with no shield and watch as my healthbar goes negative while im healing Bad change because hog isnt gonna be able to recover or make space when the enemmy team holds w. He just gets him and his team pushed in and killed in the process. Stop killing characters in patches please c:

[@shen-ani-gans]

Ashe not touched.....oh hold on shes the mythic skin....makes sense....

[@bradmiles1984]

Ashe didn't need to be touched, She's not OP by any means.

[@deoxxys]

😂 by your logic that means they would have given her a buff

[@matheusrocha4010]

cassidy is dead.

[@KingDonovan16]

/shrug/

[@shadowphantom1559]

Yay.... flash fan is back....

[@nelsongodoy5101]

But it will only happen when you get close to him, and not fucking randomly from down town becuase it decided to track you. Now you have the ability to play outside of it and deny it value rather than him just tossing it downwind and praying. Might still need a nerf down the line, but it's a step in the right direction

[@bradmiles1984]

Except it doesn't stun so when you do it they can shoot back

[@Axiarus]

As a Doom main... I love the Cassidy change.

[@NoNameNinjaa]

Im kinda wondering why they didnt give him ashes nade... Reduce his damage a little (meaning the consistent damage out put floor is lowered) and make him do 5-15% more damage to burning targets. (maybe nerf his crit a touch to balance)

[@khivurn]

then.. just play ashe?

[@SassyGhost13]

Where the fuuuuuu*k are the promised LW buffs? 😭

[@kyle7175]

he does NOT need a buff 😭😭

[@Chesterr379]

It’s Mccree, thanks

[@10XSeiga]

when it comes to orisa being better in top 500, i think its idiotic to balance a hero in a game with millions of players based on the top 500 players experience. that statement should speak for itself.

[@henriquealvarenga9244]

We've went over this in ow1. Balance has to be top down, and it'll eventually trickle down to lower ranks. Balancing from the bottom up completely destroys the high rank balance, and that eventually trickles down as well. Of course, if reaper or whatever is destroying in low ranks, a change might be in order. But those have to be exceptional, punctual changes

[@lmao_no]

kiriko nerf was not needed whatsoever. amount of times some kiriko players can even time the suzu correctly is insane. wth are they doing…

[@jaivettasheem1314]

To sell rien weapon skin lol

[@mudkipprophet]

So a skill can cancel a ult and be fair?

[@lmao_no]

@@mudkipprophet if ur team cant kill a damn kiriko then yes sure. i can understand her swift step, but suzu? people ACTUALLY cant use it correctly, timing is a thing and they cant even do that.

[@sportsupdatedude]

The dva change will be straight up reverted on console 100%. Absolutely ridiculous change. A good console dva dunks on basically the entire roster now 🪦

[@Oliverelgato1]

Why tf sojurn buff sirry what?

[@Solarjolt]

Only reason our boy Reinhardt is getting some TLC this patch is thanks to his new mythic weapon skin being released soon. Lol

[@malachite9071]

Lmfaooooo damn youre right😭, if he doesn’t make sales they’ll give him a Nerf foam hammer and toe-tag.

[@Solarjolt]

@@malachite9071 He already has a cardboard skin. What do you mean?😭😭

[@ASHURADZN]

Junker Queen's imo should've been that way since the beginning because it's basically how her gameplay is, you should be able to pull anyone no matter the role

[@deoxxys]

Yeah because it's kind of a high skill road hog hook.

[@vividdaydream1516]

Good lord. The OW2 devs did what the old OW1 team was never willing to do: admit when a new ability isn't working out, revert to the old one, AND address that old ability's balance issues at the root instead of attempting to "indirectly" fix it via tweaking literally anything but the problem itself.

[@nowun6043]

For as much as this balance team still gets wrong on occasion they are SO much better than the OW1 team

[@josephreynolds2401]

​@@nowun6043OW1 team was coping without the 222 role lock. It was marketed as easy to learn, easy to play yet 222 became the playerbase standard (for the aesthetics and parity). So goats comps are running 303 leaving out the damage lineup and players are bickering that 222 "just makes sense" even though 132 comps were incredibly potent on ladder. OW can't have so many competitive components and be as silly and carefree as splatoon. Old devs should've stuck to MMOs tbh.

[@Agent_N7]

If they're removing a damage ability shouldn't they increase his weapon damage? Flashbang is kinda the north side of useless at the normal level.

[@vividdaydream1516]

@@Agent_N7 He never needed help in that category to begin with, because Cole's peacekeeper has always dealt excellent damage. Adding magnetic grenade on top of that was overkill to begin with, so removing it isn't going to hurt him.

[@ingwiafraujaz3126]

Now just 6v6 back.

[@Steb__]

Ive always hated mag grenade. In mccree vs tracer, there would be many times where I would blink away from mag grenade only for it to continue tracking to me, takes half my health, and takes away all my abilities. It makes it inconsistent and unpredictable to deal with. When flashbang was still around, it at least made the encounter more cut and dry, either I dodge the flashbang or dont.

[@xray1337]

Good old McCree.

[@Numpers21420]

The og flashbang was good and then the mag was alright and this pocket sand sucks

[@SkydrawnIV]

Happy to have McCree get his OG ability back!

[@Conlexio]

i don’t think we’ve gone far enough with hating oneshots.

[@Jake-gb2jd]

agreed

[@funwalkthroughs1285]

Agreed

[@padf-shrimpy1019]

Cornball, there's oneshots in every game

[@JoaoPedro-sm6oi]

Hard agree, we finnaly nerf them and already act like they were not that bad ow players have goldfish memory

[@dusergaming7252]

​@JoaoPedro-sm6oi it's because everyone a hater for 0 reason

[@rubensalazar6037]

the nade became a firecracker

[@josephreynolds2401]

It looks more like a flashbang ability than the old FB did. Not a very realistic flashbang, mind you. But it does flash more than it bangs (like the old one). Doesn't feel too bad to play into yet.

[@exodiusow7649]

No pharah nerf 😢

[@PopPhyzzle]

wtf... why did they buff sojourn? They should have just dropped the damage on rail gun and been done with it. She's so stupid broken.

[@corbinrose6750]

I can’t even play widow anymore when a sojourn is in the match I agree😭

[@GStefanes_]

Because they love her, most broken character in the game

[@corbinrose6750]

@@GStefanes_ Agreed!🥵

[@miguelortiz8350]

Dude, the fire rate,perma pierce and boost to charge is crazy.

[@kyubbikcat2281]

The headshot damage is reduced from 195 to 150. The pierce doesn’t come up often really. The buff to primary is good. And now Ult is cracked.

[@BigSunn0]

How come you don't cover all the talk about firing the dev team who are responsible for the terrible state of the game???? How come you don't cover the growing outrage and calls for the devs to be replaced??? WHY?

[@top_the_hat6308]

Cassidy main from OW2 season 1, i liked the magnetic gernade alot more. While the stun on movement abilities was way to good i have to be in the persons face to actually nade them and that still barley dose anything 😢