MIND BLOWN by this PUTTER

[@riagnol]

You are not one for loads of club reviews but when you do, they are always worth watching.

[@JGEyeDoc]

I have had one for 2 months and it has been a revelation, and my best ever golf related purchase 👍

[@matthollis1270]

Waiting on delivery of mine. Ordered with stability shaft 3.5 weeks ago. Can wait. Nice review.

[@golfeus]

From the reviews of this putter that I've seen - once you've tried it, it's in the bag. I think it may be all over the tours soon enough. Putt well Steve!

[@stevieweir301]

Been trying to hold off buying one of these... Christmas Eve seems like as good a time as any to pull the trigger.

[@slapeddicus]

looking forward to you taking it on the coarse....and see how you get on with the LAB

[@caroldulin8599]

Also one of the few companies that still advocate and will make a " broomstick" putter. I have used regular, "armlock" & have ordered a broomstick. I previously used the armlock like an unanchored putter & this putter technology has transformed my putting. Lots of guff about looks but by the end of the round my bud's conceded my putting was way better. Not that everything went in but everything was closer or looked like it had a chance. Sold.

[@jksojmo123]

Appreciate your input - believe I will be using a LAB putter very soon

[@James-th8tu]

I have been playing one for 1 month so far. I have been make alot of long putts during my practice sessions. I haven't been able to bring my new found range to the course consistently yet. Its more me not being able to make putts under pressure. But I do love the putter and it doesn't seems as large as it looks.

[@edwardbugby7493]

Likewise. Putting green I'm a machine, on the course nothing seems to quite go in, mostly good putts, but never setting the world alight 🤔

[@paulvalmorbida7743]

" I'm never 60 feet away" ... Sensational!! On this review I'm ordering one today Steve. Enjoy your informative postings very much. Keep it up mate

[@Golfzilla70]

I think you'll like it a lot. I got mine a year ago, and it's amazing. I'd say 99% of golfers today don't realize how much they're fighting their own stroke on the putting green. Use this thing for 3 or 4 weeks, then go BACK to a more contemporary-style putter and you'll see what i mean. I honestly can't imagine every putting with anything else, after i've been spoiled by the smoothness of the lie-angle balance.

[@HKRoad]

Got one. It’s a keeper.

[@Lightandluck]

Great video Steve. I got mine delivered two days ago but still in lockdown here so only tried it on my mat. Sweet swing and feel. Can't wait to try on the course. With the forward press grip there is no need to initiate the forward press using your hands. i noticed that on the ones you missed you had a slight physical press. Calm hands and increase success rate. That's what I am working on indoors. It makes a difference.

[@janheinemann4565]

Hi Steve, thanks for your review. Did you consider to buy this putter with an arm-lock grip? What is your experience regarding the arm-lock? Thanks in advance for your answer. Best regards, Jan

[@pnfduffy9109]

Found one without a grip in the trash of my buddies golf shop, said i could have it. Knocked my spider out immediately. Trying an Axis 1 now. Injured right shoulder a month ago and been practicing left hand only all month. L.A.B. is the GOAT so far.

[@samhahn6950]

Who the hell threw out one of these!?!

[@pnfduffy9109]

@@samhahn6950 my friend is very "old school", didn't know what that fangled thing was. Had found the shaft with the offset grip lying around disconnected earlier and was fascinated by it. Now it has a regular shaft in it with a flatcat grip that was mine. Just tried an axis 1 umbra, and it was ok. The lab is now impossible to not use. It is by far, the best tool i have ever used. Had been in love with an old itsy bitsy spider. Putting is by far the best part of my scratch game. This thing is nuts.

[@samhahn6950]

@@pnfduffy9109 Noice!!!

[@mattsmith9109]

@@samhahn6950 haha! Love me some Key and Peele! 😂

[@alanstevens4748]

I got the standard shaft and its still great

[@joekapla591]

I also got the standard shaft (mid-last summmer) and it transformed my putting! It’s a fantastic putter!

[@tomdiebold79]

L.A.B. Golf tips the standard KBS Tour shafts more than any other manufacturer, making it quite stiff. Since I play a fairly short shaft at 33", I couldn't justify the additional cost of the Stability shaft for what I thought would be minimal added benefit. But if your back is out of alignment from sitting on a wallet stuffed with cash, relieve some of that pressure and splurge. LOL

[@waynestephens9747]

Great video Steve. Very helpful.

[@josephgreenberg2063]

Merry Christmas, Pro, and a face balanced Hogmanay. Putter is a well deserved gift to yourself for all the help and fun you have brought your pupils worldwide throughout this less than joyous year

[@mjsgolf7004]

I wish this green was flat !! Its always the green's fault isn't it Steve !! Make this vid again next summer. A few people have tested this and have found it to be really impressive. You seem genuieily shocked and surprised by how good you are putting with it ! I think you need to keep some stats and update us with progressive. Good vid Steve, price is so subjective so its best to avoid comment on price but if you show how well it works then I'm sure others will be tempted to try one. Take care pal & happy Christmas

[@haddenmiller4364]

Honestly folks, you don't really need the stability shaft. I've had this putter in the bag for over four years with the standard KBS. I felt nor saw any significant advantage when I played around with the stability shaft. You want to spend the money on that upgrade, go for it, but I don't think it's necessary. 🤷‍♂️ The grip he's using is awesome (I have it on the LAB blade), and I have a couple of them if I ever want to change on the 2.1, but I still prefer the orginal press grip. It's absolute magic.

[@thestereoclub6735]

Yeah, have one, a very long story. I discovered it goofing around at Golf Galaxy, and realized that my distance control was insanely consistent. I also realized that my normally hesitant, all over the place stroke was confident, authoritative even. Yep, mind blown.

[@lawrenceritchie4241]

Please do a follow up video when you're dialed in with that putter. You should get a commission. No doubt your video will sell putters for L.A.B.

[@dafyddjones4563]

How are you getting on with the putter now. Did it stay in the bag?

[@stevejohnstongolf]

Still in the bag👍👍

[@shaggygolf4642]

Great review. I wonder if you ever put it in the bag. Is it still in the bag?

[@stevejohnstongolf]

Still in the bag 👍

[@derekgonzalez8066]

For me, the worst part about the DF 2.1 is the stock alignment aid. Get a smaller “T” shape alignment. It will help your game tons.

[@blake6997]

Great stuff Steve. Merry xmas and best wishes for 2021.

[@daseinoseven4514]

The results speak for themselves.

[@wmbishop22]

I have a Scotty Cameron 5S and love it! Have you tried any other center shafted mallets to compare this one up against?

[@mcnillerandsons7906]

I ordered Mezz.1. I hope it’s as effective as this one.

[@j-dgrant1318]

Hi Steve, are you still using the LAB DF 2.1? I tried one, it felt great, so I've bought one. It feels so good I'm surprised more tour pros aren't using it. Any thoughts on why?

[@rcp2bTube]

Question: when you hit it off center, is there enough feedback to tell you where on the face you actually hit it? Cheers

[@tomdiebold79]

The DF 2.1 are so forgiving that it almost doesn't matter where on the face you hit it - the ball gets to the same place because of the high MOI. I look at the flagstick in the hole when I putt with mine, because it gives me great distance control that way, and if I don't hit it exactly in the middle of the face it doesn't really matter. I think the high MOI mutes the feedback

[@samhahn6950]

Yes, you can tell when you miss but it also sorta doesn't matter when you miss

[@davidaitchison4337]

Hi Steve, what a great Xmas present! Looks like you are going to have a lot of success and fun with your new high tech Putter. Enjoy.

[@jamesdavis5517]

A new putter does that for me too. Then, after a while, I learn how to miss ‘em.

[@Erictheking66]

I've had similar results but with a much cheaper putter. I've been stuck on a 4/5 handicap for the past 10 years or so. I've used Newports, Napas, Del Mars, Spider Tour, Spider x and a hole host of other good looking putters from blades to high moi mallets. This year I purchased an old Scotty Cameron DeTour Centre shaft for £70. Its the big T shape one 🤢 I find it rolls the ball great with the weight set so far back from the face, its easy to align, i can hit it all across the face and it stays on line and gets to the hole. It has the same issues as this putter you're testing in that it looks ugly & sounds awful... but I'm now down to a 1 handicap and shot my lowest ever competition score of -3 with it. Now I'm 100% performance over vanity when it comes to choosing my clubs

[@PMMeiners]

Wow 🤩 nice putter. This one might go in my bag as well.

[@adrianbarker410]

Great stuff Steve. Too late to order for Christmas!. Oh you’re running a giveaway ? Count me in ! Happy Christmas. Keep up the great work 👍

[@ramzee11]

Most in-depth review I’ve seen on this putter and all relevant to us amateurs. Would love to try this out however it’s a huge gamble to pay so much for a club that you’ve never actually seen or felt. Just to much of a gamble for me so I’ll remain a 💩 putter for the time being ! 🙈 Great review as always Steve 👍🏻👌

[@tomdiebold79]

They sell factory seconds (with minor finish blemishes) on eBay. Generally in the range of $250 USD.

[@jackroderickson8236]

Awesome putter Steve, the fitted putter is still cheaper than a new fitted driver and you use the putter way more than a driver. Money well spent ??? 👍👍🏌️⛳️🇨🇦

[@nev7711]

Very true Jack. The driver fixation is all about ego. The putter is the most important club in the bag.

[@davidwhitnall9783]

Great video and was thinking of ordering one but wasn’t sure about upgrading the shaft or not but looks like it may be worth it. Also what happened at customs, do you just pay the VAT?

[@dotty.equestrian]

Hey Steve how’s the putter performing, think I saw you when we were coming off Cardrona last Sunday, I’ve got a LAB putter and sunk a 50 footer on the 12th for birdie

[@fishblade2]

I’m not one into spending lots of money on golf products but if this really works and I can get properly fitted I would buy it. Better believe it would be my last putter I ever owned at this price though. I wish they would make this model with the sik face style on it to help produce more reliable rolls no matter the angle it hits the ball. Due to having forward press already built in their face could have different dimensions and it would be their own design. It definitely would be the perfect putter.

[@imustbreaku1]

Looks interesting. Did you know that Seemore have lie angle balanced putters in their range also??

[@tomdiebold79]

I have not seen a Seemore in the revealer, that would stay square to the line of the putt. Axis is closest, but even those have some torque.

[@samhahn6950]

A SeeMore (their flagship FGP) is actually a full toe Hang putter. The location of the shaft reduces the poundage of torque but it still requiores manipulation to keep it square. You'll notice that since our revealer came about, they have stopped showing their demonstration where they hold the tee at the top of the grip. That said, SeeMore is a great company and I have always been a fan of their stuff.

[@andyh7889]

I’ve got this puppy on order…can’t wait to get it

[@PatAllen-s9v]

Hi Steve, are you still using putter and having success with it

[@stevejohnstongolf]

I am, check out my latest vlog

[@PatAllen-s9v]

Saw in one of your videos you had a new shape MEZZ putter, I can live with either shape. Which one did you prefer, cheers

[@SilveryFoxster]

I love my Evnroll putter, it performs well for me. As far as I’m concerned, the jury is still out on the LAB putter.

[@boydgrandy5769]

About a month ago, I bought a putter from a company that prides itself on producing knockoff gold clubs. It is a little mallet, 37" long (to my spec) and cost me $46 USD (free shipping on orders over $50, so add another 12 bucks). Best putter I have ever played. I have played several versions of Odyssey putters, and over the years many others, some of which were pretty expensive. This putter leaves my bag after you pry it out of my cold dead hands.....LOL

[@vernonbagay964]

what’s the site

[@fishblade2]

Is this putter still in the bag?

[@MarkLiversedge]

Is it still in the bag? Has your view changed at all in the last couple of years?

[@kennymacm3031]

Very expensive but obviously a game changer if puttings not your forte. Spend four hundred plus on the latest driver every couple of seasons or spend big once on a putter that will seriously improve your scores?? Answers itself

[@hackandslash873]

Happy Christmas.......to self!

[@paulbarrett6910]

It looks like you are swinging a hubcap or a tire iron on a cool grip

[@timdench2583]

Hi Steve. Two years later, is this putter still in your bag? Great video BTW. I’ve just bought one and as you say it’s easy to use

[@stevejohnstongolf]

Still in the bag👍👍 Check out my latest instagram post

[@timdench2583]

@@stevejohnstongolf That’s good to hear and I will check out Insta. I only got mine on Wednesday, and like you I was amazed at how accurate it is, especially from distance. Itching to use it on the course for the first time tomorrow. Thanks for replying to an old video BTW.

[@timdench2583]

2 months on, and I have to say it’s a great putter. Most rounds I’m putting 30 times. Certainly a shot saver

[@tomdiebold79]

Given that the putter accounts for approximately 40 percent of your score; to my way of thinking, it has EVERY RIGHT to be the most expensive club in the bag. As opposed to a driver, that MIGHT get used 14 times per round.

[@alexanderinglis5998]

The results speak for themselves, will need to put in order to Santa for next Christmas

[@BoldRam]

How long till the copies come out that are about 90% as good for 1/4 the price? I'd be first in line

[@edwardbrown6901]

Hi great putter..price is about average..Scotty and Evnroll..are all about the same..question what about putting straight back and straight through..with out a arc.. Ps..your channel is very good thanks

[@samhahn6950]

The putter is designed to stay square to whatever arc you stroke the putter on. If you rotate the face in excess of the arc, it'll fight you a bit but it will also lead to you squaring the face to the arc over time

[@MsGjohnston]

Need to get that on next years santa list😻😻☃️🏌🏻‍♀️🏌🏻‍♀️

[@paulbown3960]

Ok for someone with a very much gated swing?

[@samhahn6950]

The putter is designed to stay square to whatever arc you stroke the putter on. If you rotate the face in excess of the arc, it'll fight you a bit but it will also lead to you squaring the face to the arc over time

[@GDKRichardson]

Interesting that you chose to go down to 69* lie angle, instead of up to 80* for a lie-balanced putter. I met the inventor of your putter just three weeks ago up in the Sierra Nevada. He saw the lie-balanced blade putter I was using and immediately came over to hold it and balance it. I raved about the 80* lie angle in the rules of golf, and he nodded, like he was making mental notes. A lie-balanced putter makes all the difference on those must-have five to six footers.

[@samhahn6950]

What putter are you using?

[@cameroncarlson9291]

Can you please explain why 80* lie angle would be better? I can kinda see why, but do you have an exact explanation?

[@banditbaker1675]

I don't care what it looks like or sounds like, if it helps me hole more Putts "I'm in"! Though to be honest I think that in black with the Stability shaft it looks pretty stunning! I would be interested to learn how their remote fitting works as I was surprised that they fitted you into a 34.5" length, with your height I would have "assumed" that you would have been 35"+ Please keep us posted as to your experience with the Stealth Putter

[@tomdiebold79]

The remote fitting works GREAT !

[@banditbaker1675]

@@tomdiebold79 looking at it on their site it does look pretty easy. Have you done the fitting and ordered/have the Putter, if so how are you finding it?

[@tomdiebold79]

@@banditbaker1675 Yes,a little over a year ago I did the remote fitting, and they came back and said that I set up at 69*, but come through at 68.5*, so that is what they manufactured it at. The tech WORKS. Light grip pressure is the key, in fact they suggest practicing with your thumbs off the putter. To me this is the best implement on the planet for getting the ball to rattle in the bottom of the cup. It won't read the green correctly for you, but it will get the ball going down the line you have chosen. SUPER forgiving of toe and heel strikes, so much so, that I actually look at the flag stick in the hole when taking my stroke which provides me terrific distance control. That is unless there is lots of break, and I need a different aiming point. Yes it is expensive. Yes it works. And the club you use on 40% of your strokes in a round, has EVERY RIGHT to be the most expensive club in the bag. I thought their new nickel finish was stunning when I first saw it, so I sold my black DF 2.1 and had them build me one in nickel. I also sold my B.2 at the same time, as it was not as forgiving as the DF 2.1 (the laws of physics being what they are, anything smaller will have less MOI).

[@banditbaker1675]

@@tomdiebold79 Many thanks Tom, I appreciate you taking time to come back to me. I agree with your comment about cost and the importance of the Putter relative to the other Clubs in the Bag. As far as I am concerned if it can help me improve my Putting Stats then the cost is irrelevant. Last question, may I ask where you are based and do you Putt on fast or slow Greens?

[@tomdiebold79]

@@banditbaker1675 - NorCal - SF Bay area. Play muni courses primarily, so probably on the slower side as far as green speed is concerned.

[@scottwalker3822]

Love the technology L. A. B. but the price tag is a major turnoff for me. I am currently looking at a company called Biomech Acculock. Putter looks like something from another planet, requires a completely different setup and is locked to your arm similar to Bryson check there site out 👍🏻

[@tomdiebold79]

L.A.B. Golf sells factory seconds (with minor finish blemishes) on eBay. Generally in the range of $250 USD.

[@mathiasjapri]

bro sounds like terminator reviewing putter. awesome

[@geoffbridgeman4625]

I’m no expert but it looked to me as though your putting stroke improved the more you used it (right hand looked quieter). May have to raid the piggy bank for one of these!

[@tomdiebold79]

Very light grip pressure is the key to these. It works very hard to stay square to the line, so let it. In fact it is recommended to practice with your thumbs off of the putter, to get the feel of letting the putter do its thing.

[@samhahn6950]

Spot on. Once the fight against torque is gone, it'll literally lead you to a better stroke.

[@lawrencemahoney7092]

You should look into BioMech putters, possibly review, it would fit right in with your Golf Machine analysis and much cheaper than this putter

[@vasonar]

That putter would look beautiful if it improved my putting, but the price! Of course what kind of price can you put on significantly improved putting, as they say on the VISA tv commercials priceless.

[@tomdiebold79]

Given that the putter accounts for approximately 40 percent of your score; to my way of thinking, it has EVERY RIGHT to be the most expensive club in the bag. As opposed to a driver, that MIGHT get used 14 times per round.

[@BruceBusby]

I've seen these for a couple years. I've always thought they were: Too ugly, too big, too expensive, too gimmicky, etc to try. A guy I was golfing with last year showed up with one. I tried a few putts with it. It's balanced alright, the grip is quite odd, it's bigger and uglier than I thought, and won't fix a bad read. My golf partner couldn't putt with it but.. he was raving about how much better he is with it. I'll take a pass until they build something that doesn't look like a huge cattle branding iron

[@tomdiebold79]

They do make a blade version called the B.2 it has the same technology, but the laws of physics being what they are; because it is smaller with less MOI the B.2 is less forgiving than the DF 2.1. And if you can come up with a putter that will fix a bad read, you will be a GAZILLIONAIRE !

[@colinc.8742]

Only practice will make you a good putter, not the latest fancy shaped club. Adam Scott quickly discarded it and it is not out there on the tour A fool and his money are easily parted. I would like to see them show the video of 8 balls 10 feet around the hole around a slopping green. Any idiot after a few practice putts can make a walking stick look good on a flat green.

[@ianmurray57]

I can see why you spend that much on a putter, but it looks like worth trying.

[@tonyfrostad2730]

Money does not grow on trees ..... I'll hold on to mine for a while 😁

[@tomdiebold79]

L.A.B. Golf sells factory seconds (with minor finish blemishes) on eBay. Generally in the range of $250 USD, which makes it a little easier on the wallet. I'd like to find the money tree too, wouldn't that be sweet.

[@edblair929]

Bought one in nickel, then straight into lockdown and courses closed 😩

[@ianward9804]

🤣🤣you got all exited on the ten footers like a big kid,but if it works fair play

[@strummer9837]

Looks like a branding iron

[@tomdiebold79]

Indeed it does. It is also the best implement on the planet for getting the ball to rattle in the bottom of the hole.

[@bobfindley6949]

Wow that is just a little bit out of my range :-)

[@bobfindley6949]

But as they say your hit for show and putt for dough :-)

[@tomdiebold79]

They sell factory seconds (with minor finish blemishes) on eBay. Generally in the range of $250 USD.

[@bobfindley6949]

@@tomdiebold79 Cool Thanks for the info.

[@alanduncan9204]

This Putter looks like it does not conform to the rules of the heel to toe length having to be greater than the distance of the face to the back of the putter head. I just trawled through the R&A and USGA rules on club dimensions. There is a get out clause on the conformity for shape as they state that on putters the shape rules are"rarely applied". But if Adam Scott and others start sinking putts from all over the shop, it could go the way of belly putters and you have bought a very expensive door stop.

[@tomdiebold79]

I just measured mine. It is exactly the SAME measurement from toe to heel, as it is from face to rear edge.

[@alanduncan9204]

@@tomdiebold79 I knew it was close and I just eyeballed it from videos. Thanks.

[@samhahn6950]

It doesn't look like it but it IS actually longer from heel to toe than face to flange.

[@tomdiebold79]

@@alanduncan9204- Per Sam's reply below, I guess I should have gotten out my calipers to do the measurement (I had only used a tape measure to come up with the measurement being the same), it must be incrementally longer toe to heel. Cheers.

[@marccolmer6185]

Problem with these putters is that they have won nothing just ask jack n tiger good old blade is what you want especially in Scotland 👍

[@tomdiebold79]

There have been no PGA wins with these (yet), but other tours around the world have seen some. If you are a PGA touring pro, you have spent THOUSANDS of hours practicing with your putter and know how to counteract its torque, so you are NOT going to throw that all away unless your putter goes south on you. Adam Scott gamed one at the Masters - no he didn't win.

[@waynetrinier4654]

Maybe if I wait 20 years I can get a used one for $100...Hahaha.

[@tomdiebold79]

They sell factory seconds (with minor finish blemishes) on eBay. Generally in the range of $250 USD.

[@iaincushen3146]

Too expensive for me

[@rodneymounsey4168]

Obviously a good bit of kit, but really, where does the cost of golf equipment stop? It really is getting ridiculous , and this is direct from manufacturers.

[@nokia5359]

Sighh... So money can really buy you a better stroke a swing. Guys like me is not likely to spend more than 150 bucks for a putter . not that we dont want, we just cant. What happens to skill and practice and the joy of learning 😂

[@moefoley567]

How's the wife feel about spending $670 bucks on a putter...or doesn't she know yet?😉

[@wanderingbrummie]

The price puts me off less than the looks, boy, it’s ugly.

[@barrymorrison3630]

Give you £100 in 3 months for it when you miss a few 😉

[@stevefurniaux9978]

While the looks are strange to say the least I think I could get past that and the inevitable p**s taking but the price will be the thing that stops many people entertaining it, me included.

[@simmo5071]

If the putter can’t read the line then staying on the line is useless, total waste of your money and it’s ugly! Just my very opinionated opinion. Now tell me you one putt everything and I’ll apologize.

[@stevejohnstongolf]

The “putter.” can read the line!!!!!!!

[@simmo5071]

@@stevejohnstongolf Then I whole heartedly apologize, unless of course your telling a little porky. It’s still ugly though!

[@kirkclements4893]

A $32 putter that comes with a $620 marketing cost built in - BS baffles brains and that is what marketing is all about - ya just gotta laugh at the idea of buying a game vs learning how to putt - LOL

[@samhahn6950]

If it was a Tayloremade, yes, this cost analysis would be correct. In our case, it really is what it is. Steven chose to upgrade the shaft for $235 and that price is dictated by BGT, not us. Without the upgrades, the putter is $425. As for the rest of the putter, its premium stuff made ENTIRELY in the US. We can't mass produce them as each needs to be hand balanced to achieve our tech. Effectively, every putter we make is custom and you'd be hard pressed to find a custom putter anywhere in the world for anywhere near our price. It can be off-putting to see the price tag at first but the science is real and the quality is unmatched.

[@jimrodgers172]

What a joke.

[@ng8981]

It's not for me. Golf's obsession with making the game easier by using technology in clubs saddens me, golf is supposed to be hard. Where's the sense of satisfaction in improving your score if your basic swing is just as crap as it was, but your clubs have ironed out the flaws? You might as well play a shorter course or remove a load of the hazards or make the hole bigger.

[@tomdiebold79]

I assume then you are still playing with wooden woods? Balata balls?

[@ng8981]

@@tomdiebold79 Yes, wooden woods (apart from when the conditions are very wet when I'll play early polymer or steelheads) and bladed irons from the 1950s through to the 1980s. Similar date for putters which are mostly blades too, and I mean proper blades not Anser styles. I use balata balls occasionally but they're not easy to find and aren't always in great condition. My dream is for someone to make a ball that spins and behaves how the balatas did.

[@tomdiebold79]

@@ng8981 - Good on you, have fun with that ! I need all the help I can get/buy and not ashamed to use it.

[@edblair929]

Why don’t we make it really hard and bring back stymies and teeing of from the green we just holed out on. 👎