YT151 Why There are No Friday Sermons from Muhammad? Did they hide them? What else was hidden?

In this segment, we revisit the issue of the Friday prayers, specifically asking: Where are Muhammad's Friday sermons? How come we have none of them in the books of Tradition?
We hope that these provide you clear warning signs regarding anti-Quran preachers you should avoid, and that you should guide your families to avoid.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:09 In This Segment
2:11 Reminders
3:29 Muḥammed as a Nabiy and as a Rassool
10:37 Difference between “يا ايها الذين آمنوا” and “المؤمنون”
13:15 Reviewing YT135 Regarding Friday Prayers
22:17 Historical Proofs Against Friday Prayer and Sermon
25:06 More Evidence #1: Imam Mālik Ibn Anas
28:12 More Evidence #2: Another Janaaḥ (Evidence)
30:19 Conclusion
36:26 Advice: Take This Matter Seriously!
40:56 Outro
We provide a Quran-based understanding that shows the true meaning of this Aya 62:9-10 and we rebuke those in our tradition who were at best negligent, and at worse intentionally harmful to Muhammad's Sunnah.
For more than 2 years, we have demonstrated how wrong the traditional interpretations have been. We demonstrated that traditional ‘scholars’ regularly imported claims from Biblical sources and super-imposed them over the QurꜤān! What if the definition of al-Injeel as taught to us by the traditional Islamic scholarship is totally wrong?
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To learn more about the organic Quranic methodology that we use, watch the playlist on Methodology on the channel page on KZbin
On this channel, we do NOT teach the (corrupted) Bible! We only teach the QurꜤan, using the Quranic methodology to extract knowledge from the Quran, exclusively!
We rely on the organic Quranic methodology, on the Abrahamic locution, and on the nested interpretation techniques to uncover the meanings and indications of the Quran verses.
The conclusion: When the Quran Tafseer scholars decided to bring their stories form corrupted versions of the earlier scriptures, they misled the Muslims from engaging the Quran in the way that Allahh had instructed us to do.
Why are we presenting these topics on this channel?
1. Our primary mission on this channel is to teach this divine 3ilm (of the organic Quranic methodology + the Abrahamic locution) after it has been undocumented for 14 centuries
2. Please resist the urge of learning JUST for the sake of curiosity
3. The ultimate goal of learning this 3ilm is to teach you Shukoor (practicing proper communication with Allahh)
4. This channel is NOT to AFFIRM what you were taught, but to apply the methodology to seek the truth about the Quran. Learn how to empty your cup before you can receive a fresh refill!
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[@oraclemedia9266]

Al hamdulillahil Rabbil alemin! Allahu akbar! Befor haveing found YOU my dear father Dr. Hany I did not attand friday prayers for a very long period... and now u are telling me this.... TABARAK ALLAH! May Allah SWT bless u!!! I LOVE U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Yahya___]

Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 1:09 In This Segment 2:11 Reminders 3:29 Muḥammed as a Nabiy and as a Rassool 10:37 Difference between “يا ايها الذين آمنوا” and “المؤمنون” 13:15 Reviewing YT135 Regarding Friday Prayers 22:17 Historical Proofs Against Friday Prayer and Sermon 25:06 More Evidence #1: Imam Mālik Ibn Anas 28:12 More Evidence #2: Another Janaaḥ (Evidence) 30:19 Conclusion 36:26 Advice: Take This Matter Seriously! 40:56 Outro

[@MarvelousQuran]

Thank you very much. Uploaded.

[@rascalrichard7271]

I feel nothing short of awesome blessing from Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) for the opportunity of listening to the results of all your work, Dr. Hany! And I am sure I am just one among many...and I hope we will be always more and more, insha'Allah!

[@Abumaryam22]

Where are the KZbin shiekhs please come out and refute the evidence that this channel is presenting for two years you guys are quiet i challenge any youtube sheikh to come out openly and defend the tradition because you're leaving your blind followers looking very ignorant with the type of argument they are they bringing up against this channel, so weak and lacks evident base knowledge.

[@Abumaryam22]

@@man4sliding950 yes when someone can't even follow the instructions to watch the complete segment and other pre-requisites segments that are being referred to but only making some claims without evidence

[@salihtaysi]

Salaamun 3alaykum! Beautiful video! "but wait, there is more!" is just one of my favourite things to hear from Dr.Hany in these segments :D May Allah increase us all in evidence-based knowledge.

[@MarvelousQuran]

:) Alhamdulillah

[@3tu3ni]

Salaamun Alaikum. Thank for the reminder, this should make us ask questions. Alhamdulillah

[@AhmedMutaharAbdul]

الحمدالله الذي هدانا لهذا وماكنا لنهتدي لولا ان هدانا الله لقد جاءت رسل ربنا بالحق

[@Ishra890.]

Very good explanation about the absence of Jummah sermon by prophet.

[@halalmoney4685]

Salamun Alaikum Dr Hany and the Priviledged blessed listeners... What a mind blowing segment and presentation is outstanding and Stunning clarity! We are travelling with you dear Hany! Our Soul is Dancing out of Joy for the Truths Flowing like the fountains of Jannah! Our prayers for You to be safe and be blessed with Ocean of True Ilm., Quran is Absolute Truth HAQQUL YAQQEEN! Let them Criticize Let them Go.. We love you We love Quran. Thank you for the tremendous effort you took to present this segment! All praise belongs to Allah! The Unassailable! Am Naseema, From Tamilnadu, India

[@MarvelousQuran]

Alhamdulillah

[@Samreensoomroo]

Why do u think you will go to jannah . For denying all the prayers and rules of life set by islam. U will go to jannah Just reading quran and its translations..that is it. 😢

[@mahdiyusof446]

I 'skipped' zohor more than 3000 times n prayed jumaat instead!!! And all because of my ignorance over the ONE- SYLLABLE word MIN before the airing of relevant YT!!! May we all continue be guided based on the Quranic methodology as embraced n elucidated by our dear Dr Hany insya Allah

[@anggasugih5303]

just wait until he said that dzohor also a fraud.

[@sule2318]

Wait till he gets to 5 salah and Ramadan my friend 🤣

[@xeedsenterprise505]

​@@anggasugih5303 Yes...only Allah give us understanding of AlQuran. We can read all the tafseer by the scholars or the interpretation by this guy BUT the only guide is by Allah ONLY

[@melissatheguru8306]

Who cares, both are inovation AKA bi'dah😀

[@sule2318]

@@melissatheguru8306 top G

[@Eeman.2205]

Alhamdulillaahh that Allaahh has made this knowledge available for us, It is He also the one will guide us through implementing and sharing it to others. No fear and no sadness InshaaAllaahh

[@MarvelousQuran]

Alhamdulillah

[@sisterkhadijah5688]

Dearest Brother Hany Allah has allowed you to be used for the purpose of “Good” and I thank Allah for allowing any, and everyone who is searching for the truth to come across this channel and dress and themselves with the finest jewels made available to us in this life and that is understanding “The Quran.” May Allah continue to bless, protect, and reward you.

[@MarvelousQuran]

Thanks for that

[@naimaamghar818]

Al7amdoelillahh Al7amdoelillahh! JazakaAllahu Khairan Dr.Hany.

[@islamthebestreligion8180]

Once i want to memorize some khutbah of jumaa prayer and i came to know that there is not a single khutba recorded in hadith given by muhammad saw and yet they claim it is part of our salah if you talk or miss it you missed your salah or else you destroyed it at that time one thing i more realise that there is no tafsir of quran in the hadith the one who did tafsir they just fit one story which happened or not in muhammad saw times allah knows and make it the tafsir of the aayah. As the time is moving faster quran is also starting to disclosing all its beautiful revelation.

[@Abumaryam22]

Salaamun Alaikum Alhamdulillah coherent and consistent with the rest part of the Qur'an.

[@jaitonghani]

Salamun Alaykum Alhamdulillahh MaasyaAllahh thank you Dr Hany

[@drabdulmalik]

Salaamun Alaykum Dr Hany, thanks once again for clarifying about Friday salat; as well as explaining the difference between the two terms"al Mu'minoon" and "Al-Lazeena Aamanoo" and cautioning about its implication on other Ayats, particularly those relating to the subject of Halal and Haram. I was wondering that quite related to this specific distinction between these two terms, Ayat 6 in Surah Al-Ma'idah (Ayat on Wudoo) that also starts with the term "Al-Lazeena Aamanoo" therefore implies that Wudoo has not been prescribed for the "al Mu'minoon" while they offer their Salat (or toil on Qur'an)!

[@Shimon1971]

Alhamdulillah - Such a clear convincing nested interpretation of ayat of 62:9 and 62:10. Thank you so much Dr. Hany, keep up the good work. Eagerly Waiting for a segment of Salat as Allahh (STW) said in Quran for us. S.A.

[@saifmusawi]

Dr I have a question, ‎یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوۤا۟ . The word ‎ءَامَنُوۤا۟ has a “ َ “ above the ء. Doesn’t that change the past tense to present since ‎ءَامَنُوۤا۟ is different from امنوا ؟

[@MarvelousQuran]

It is the way the Quran spells that word, just like "قُرْءَان": This is how it is spelled. It means those who believed

[@shuvra73]

Salaamun Alaykum Dr. Hany. Just wondering, how negligent we are in engaging the ayas of the Qur'an! It's very easy to say, "Alhamdulillahh for everything", but it takes much more courage to actually mean it! Can't thank you enough for the motivation you always give us to take the words of Allahh SWT seriously...

[@muazmahbub5251]

Are you from Bangladesh Brother @chander gari

[@shuvra73]

@@muazmahbub5251 Yes, I am. You too?

[@muazmahbub5251]

Yes brother. I am from dhaka. I thought i was the only majnoon from dhaka. Anyway nice to have you here in this channel. May Rabb help us..

[@shuvra73]

@@muazmahbub5251 You're invited to Bandarban Sadar. 🙂

[@muazmahbub5251]

Currently i am in London. Hopefully in future when i will go to Bangladesh. Btw thanks brother...

[@williamschwarz9651]

WHEN IS JUMU'AH? The anounce is made the night before: 62:9 -- ...when the announcement is made of the day of [(min) not on the day but of the day] the Jumu'ah salat. Jumu'ah is neither an appointment for a sermon nor a weekly appointment, is a monthly appointment for a congregational salat on the day after the new moon has been seen, on the Ghuduwi salat (69:10- disperse after the salat and seek Allah's bounty. So the day is still young to go back to business) or what the sunni call duha or the salat of sunrise (technically when the sun is high enough for one to cast a shadow, 13:15) : 2:189 --- they ask you about the new moons, say:"they are appointments for gathering of the people (jumu'ah) and for hajj (Arafat)." Plus, the week doesn't exist in the Qur'an. The week is a jew thing copied from babylon for the lunar calendar. Allah made an exception for them on the seventh day (16:124); for us the muslims the Sabbath is every night to rest and worship Allah (SWA): Rest: 25:47/78:9-11. Worship: 73:20/76:26.

[@Trutzburg]

🧡💙🤎 30:10 That means the original Sabbath was their opportunity to receive direct guidance? do we know their process?

[@syedsadiq7213]

السلام علیکم I am new in this channel, can anybody give me the link where Drm Hany explained how we can take Hidayah direct from ALLAH S.W.T. at night, Couldn't find that video , Dr. Hany refered in this or other video. Jazak Allah khaira

[@syedsadiq7213]

@@obaidulhaque7687 جزاک اللہ

[@GBL3092]

I mostly saw the word من associated with "from" and never "after" because "after" means it has a point of event "from" the initial motion has began , in this case the "calling" to assembly are the point where motion starts from , Then "after" that assembly / gathering you spread out in the way of the scripture... I've never seen ANY TRANSLATION that uses من as "after" but I do see some use it as "against" in surah Quraysh , but it still make sense to use "from". I agree with you when you say that there were no friday prayers. Alhamdulillah. And I think you recently stated in your livestream that "يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟" applied also for us.

[@MarvelousQuran]

"من" is well understood by grammarians to mean "after" or "instead", sometimes. Surah Quraysh is a typical example doing that. Just because you have not seen it does not mean that our interpretation is wrong.

[@IE-cz9qq]

very interesting, you have other examples where you think we have deviated somewhat?

[@ellaella9832]

Alhamdulillah! I was thinking about this topic for the past few weeks.

[@takeachillpill2954]

Imam in the masjid recited this surah just yesterday, I was like. Oh wait theres the proof of Jumuah. And the video drops. Wow.

[@izufami]

Salamun Alaykum. Thank you for the very enligthening & comprehensive revelation. Alhamdulillah.

[@daintierhype4332]

Alhamdulillah!!! Beautiful segment! The words of Allahh are so comforting!

[@fakejesus6431]

Sir hope u are fine what if min is used as from the day will it not change the meaning otherwise just curious please advice thank u

[@MarvelousQuran]

That would not be acceptable Arabic grammar

[@nassiriabraham]

Alhamdulillah The terms THose who believed and the believers are game changer for me. They are new zabur / bayyinat Alhamdulillah

[@isaamrafee9902]

Salaamun Alaykum!!

[@mohammadjavid3066]

Subhanallah This segment is going to stir lot of controversy. Surely for those who want to inject their own agendas

[@surgefx134]

Alhamdulillah.. MQ starting to discuss about salat, the very subject that is giving me the most anxiety since following this channel. Thank you Dr Hany

[@abdibirik1100]

I agree with Dr Hani in totality. On the same subject, I asked the same to several local sheikhs or scholars and the answer becomes null and void. I told them that if Jum’ a prayer prayer was obligatory then why not pray four than two Raka’s . If it’s obligatory then why not pray four Raka’s as noon or Dhuhr prayers. No body has an answer for this update. No one can produce an evidence when were we are told not to pray four but two on Jum’a or Friday prayer .

[@yulakasim4591]

Friday has only 2 rakaa because it has 2 part of khutbah. So 2 + 2 = 4. Which is the same rakaa in zhuhur prayer. This mean the 2 rakaa of the zhuhur's is replace with 2 parts of the khutbah.

[@abdibirik1100]

@@yulakasim4591 Can you back yourself with authentic Hadith . Who told you 2+2 makes up dhuhr prayers for Friday. Our prayers are built on the foundation that dhuhr is 4, Asir 4, Maghreb 3, isha 4, Fajr 2. These are the formats of our prayers. However, can you confirm that the Allah messenger has changed this pattern during his lifetime. You cannot come up with a figure without collaborating evidences.

[@kshnell8]

Salaamun Alaykum people… it’s 3:28 am where am watching this great segment. Alhamdulillahh

[@jinglejungle3410]

I hv listen to this segment over and over again. Love it. Thanks again to Dr Hany. Your hard work is my syukur.

[@pahe1432]

Salam Dr Hany, May I ask why in Surah Baqarah Verse 183, it is not a past tense?

[@beezos-gw2vs]

Alhamdulillahh. How listening to a preacher for 30 minutes can substitute the value of 2 raka'ats of Salat according to them had always been bothering me. Thank you for the explanation Doc

[@burhanlong]

Alhamdulillah and thank you, Dr Hany

[@abdullahothman7683]

Salamunalikum.. Alhamdulillah... Malaysia is here

[@musahahmed8327]

Alhamdulillah ❤❤❤

[@aadamstory]

Thank you for enlightening us Dr Hany. Allah made this knowledge available. Since my teenager I asked about this back and forth. I was in doubt again since 2 years ago. And now it's all clear by the Qur'an which revealing the truth. Alhamdulillah, Salamun Alaykum

[@krodjeru7910]

Alhamdulillah ❤❤, feeling More and More confident, segment after another

[@eigochat]

May Allah guide us!!!

[@auroraprs9133]

I read by accident part 17 Ayat 44 .once heard that earth might be interpreted as shallow text interpretation in ur video then suddenly I was blown away by reading this very small verse. It made me more questions than answer and I am not expert but curious more. I suddenly thought about a future population that have been successful to age to over 100 and then almighty come? Don't know how but the purpose is to reduce or eliminate shallow meaning.....🤔 any other feedback?😮

[@arrctqw1600]

Alhamdulillah!

[@MuhammadBukhariSaidin]

Alhamdulillah. Thank you Dr. Hany.

[@TheSlaveOfAllah1992]

O you, who have believed, when [the adhan] is called for the prayer on the day of Jumu’ah [Friday], then proceed to the remembrance of Allah and leave the trade. That is better for you if you only knew.” (Quran, 62: 9) There is so many authentic ahadith which explains how and what to do on a Friday, before the khutbah and after. May Allah's peace and blessings be upon our beloved Muhammed, his noble wives, his noble companions, and his noble family and whoever follow them until the day of judgment. May Allah guide you, pray to Allah to guide you. I feel sorry for you. Whatever you are doing has nothing to do with Islam. This religion had been indeed *preserved* ...and it is *completed* Allah said, *whoever obeyed the messenger has obeyed Allah* .. So, how do we obey the messenger, where is the messenger's speech, commands, works, deeds and so on. You don't find that in the Qur'an couse the Qur'an is the word of Allah. Allah says, Obey Allah and Obey the messenger, if you differ in anything, *refer it back to Allah (Qur'an) and his Messenger* ... Allah says, *On the Day when their faces will be turned over in the Fire, they will say: "Oh, would that we had obeyed Allah and obeyed the Messenger (Muhammad SAW)* .. The choice is yours, *Allah does not oppress His servants* ...

[@MarvelousQuran]

Again: Where are the Friday sermons that he supposedly gave? Do you know the difference between Rassool and Nabiy?

[@faesajassiem6036]

May Allah Swt protect and have mercy on all believers. 🙏🤲

[@happytime249]

Salaamun Alaykum Alhamdulillah As always Every video segment has gold and gem pouring out. Thank you Dr. Hany.

[@mustafamohammad3081]

Thanks very much Dr Hany for this enlightening segment which sealed what was stated in YT135 .

[@Mutahdi_FollwOnlyQuran573]

Alhamdullillah. Keep it up, increase the volume Dr. Hany. The more disclosures the more I am getting closer to Allah.

[@ellaella9832]

Salatul Jumuah Friday Khutbah is similar to the Christian Sunday Sermon? and Jewish Sabath Saturday?

[@goradieng336]

OMG Thank you Dr You responded my question. for way imam Malik did not attend the Friday pray in the last 25 years of his life

[@eliaskondi1722]

Thank you, Dr. Hany..., As always, very convincing and insightful in your arguments. Our heartfelt wishes for you.

[@idreeskhan2360]

The traditional quirks by the Mullas hv played havoc with the discipline of innocent populace in general and progressive peace loving pakhtuns in particular. I recall iconic nonviolent protagonist Bacha khan and poet philosopher Ghani khan used to enlighten common man on nefarious designs of such information but were proclaimed as wayfarers by conformists. Thank you v much sir for spreading truth and I pray militancy hit pakhtuns find peace . Regards

[@pa23708]

Great info !

[@mustaphaoizaz2741]

❤❤❤ Jazak Alahh alghair

[@eigochat]

ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِى هَدَىٰنَا لِهَـٰذَا وَمَا كُنَّا لِنَهْتَدِىَ لَوْلَآ أَنْ هَدَىٰنَا ٱللَّهُ ۖ لَقَدْ جَآءَتْ رُسُلُ رَبِّنَا بِٱلْحَقِّ ۖ ا۟

[@iraqchico]

Alhamdulilah ❤

[@cleanerfloors]

Very thankful Jazakallahu Khairan

[@alzaid4425]

Alhamdulillah it's a baraka of Allah that we are able to get this detailed information that makes things clear.

[@Sr_art_3862]

From ayat 62:9 - 10 it's clear that salat for us in Qur'an is not the ritual prayer we do five times a day but "engaging the zikir of Allah" i.e. Learning the Qur'an. A shocking truth but makes sense.

[@sizomabu1036]

My question for is, did prophet perform.ritual prayer Or Not??

[@belalucf]

Don’t listen to this, shaytaan wants us to stop making salah. Of course the Prophet saws prayed and showed us how to pray! Don’t be deceived. Most of these comments are non Muslims trying to deceive muslimeen.

[@sizomabu1036]

@@belalucf good we & we are alart

[@hamzaamir1218]

very well explained, that was much needed topic and also helpful for those who ask again and again about salah. Gold bless you Dr. Hani

[@ableskill]

Thank you for your hard work, May Allah keeps on guiding you and reward you this life and the hereafter Insha’Allah. I stop going to Jummah 3 yrs ago when a read Imam Malik Muhatta of him not going to Jummah fir 25yrs. And now with your eloquent information I feel so relief and free. Once again thank u 🙏🏽

[@arshadshaikh5905]

AA. Please also make a lecture on ayah 33:56 and explain the meaning of the word صَلُّو . Also comment on the origin of Drood Sharif and give its meaning specially focusing on the word صَلُّيْ . Does Mohammad also recite it in his Prayers in the last qaada or is it a bidat too?

[@al-ayattv8559]

Alhamdulillah!!!

[@DC-ub4dz]

Beautiful!

[@falahis2762]

Salaam, I came across regarding the word “ O you who have believed “ .. Surah Al Maidah ayat 2 . Clearly talks to people of Makkah . Who already enter Islam .. believed in Allah and messenger Muhammad SAW. This in relation to your explanation of Surah Jummah regarding the word believed !

[@3abdm688]

Alhamdulillah...

[@yusoffmdsahir6854]

I came upon channel that tells that solat Jumaat prayer was started in 6xx AD during Malik Marwan time, after seeing the Orthodox Christians have their gatherings on the first Friday of every month. Now I am confused. Help me.

[@asyeda4283]

SubhanAllah! May Allah reward you abundantly . Thank you for sharing.

[@ES-pr9vi]

جزاك الله خيرا Dr Hany for the great work, looking forward to see more and more irrefutable evidences from the Quran:) If i may ask, i have a question about the ayah (O you who believed) so you are saying that Amenu is the past tense. But how should we understand surat al Asr then? After the verse:” Verily Man is in loss” except those who (believed?) and (did good works?) so not those who believes right now and do good works right now? It confuses me. بارك الله فيك

[@MarvelousQuran]

@E S The aya includes allazeena aamanoo but continues with 3 more conditions: Those who toil in accordance with the divine lexicon, and then remind each other about the truth and about being patient. Those who do this become Mu'minoon (believers) Regards

[@Trutzburg]

Actually the whole concept and structure of surah 62 indicates Allah is addressing them, right? : 1. فِى ٱلْأُمِّيِّۦنَ رَسُولًا مِّنْهُمْ 2. وَءَاخَرِينَ مِنْهُمْ 3. مَثَلُ ٱلَّذِينَ حُمِّلُوا۟ ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةَ 4. يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ هَادُوٓا۟ 5. يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟

[@TheWorld-of7dd]

Alhamdulillah

[@umarsyed7538]

Min also means from. Call to prayer from the day of jumaah makes perfect sense. It is in sync with the traditional Friday prayers.

[@ellaella9832]

The traditional practice should be based on the sunnah of Muhammad pbuh. Do you have a hadith of the actual Khutbah in salatl jumuah?

[@MarvelousQuran]

We explained this in the video. Just watch it. According to the traditional (erroneous) interpretation of this Aya, the "min" would be extraneous... And thus their interpretation is wrong!

[@jaswantsingh9287]

Thank you Dr Hany for the clarification on Friday sermons.

[@syedajaasanwar2365]

Just started watching, the subject is great, i m lovin it.

[@naila999]

Thank you Allah swt for Your divine guidance.

[@TrevortheWayfarerofAllah]

Alhumdullilah 🥲 words of appreciation don’t do you Justice.

[@davidvargas5277]

Salaamun alaykum..Alhamdulillah.❤

[@s.s.5311]

Salaamun alaykum. Thank you for a most enlightening and clear presentation on the topics presented in this segment. What a mind blowing experience to receive evidence after evidence to prove the points. Alhamudulillah.

[@MarvelousQuran]

Alhamdulillah. Allahh promised us: "If you seek, I will help you."

[@A6A114]

Salaamun alaiykum, Alhamdulillahh, again and again Alhamdulillahh .Our beloved Dr.Hany...

[@emmastone1027]

Salamun alaykum, Alhamdulillah so is there any daily fard salah or not?

[@alhazenmediax]

Interesting question. Never thought about that.

[@AwwalMuslimiin]

ALHAMDULILLAH ... Many Thanks to you Dr. Hany. you are a great teacher. Jazaaka Allahu Khairon

[@Hbr990]

ALHAMDULILLAH.

[@kawsusillah9790]

❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 AlhamdullilAllahh We must move out of the shadows. Evidence is evidence. If you disagree bring evidence.

[@MarvelousQuran]

I assure you. They are watching but have no way to respond

[@abdulnasir2699]

Barak Allah 🤲

[@noorazman8380]

SalamAlykum, Following YT 135 some months ago, I asked a local iman and shared MQ segment with a TV ustaz who interpreted Surah 62 Al- Jumua in accordance with book of tafseer on the screen. The iman immediate rebuttal was referring and explaining ayat 62: 9, while the TV guy preferred to remain silent to this very day. Existential crisis.

[@Jasia-bh7ou]

Alhumdulillah great day to start with an amazing topic Insha Allahh . I had this question in my heart since 2019 when Haj was banned all over world....i had this feeling that Allahh is giving us a sign that there is no need for praying in groups also there is no need to do haj I had this feeling that its some wrong practice we Muslims are doing unknowingly....along with the feeling in my heart not only for jumma prayers but all 5 prayers that traditionally Muslims perform in masjid as a group is not required...... will go through this video to see if I m wrong or right. Haven't heard the full video yet insha Allahh will go through now !

[@seek_Al_Haq]

Salaam, let me start by saying I am a fan of the channel and am seeking the truth, but from my many past years as a traditional Muslim, I will try and give an answer that traditionalists may possibly give: 1)The Friday sermons were not officially recorded or written/transcribed verbatim at the time they were delivered. Bearing that in mind, I challenge anyone to listen to a sermon, and then recall what they remember of it many years later. One will only remember small key parts only, or key sayings that were repeated regularly in sermons, they will not be able to dictate entire sermons verbatim. What evidence do you have that all or most of the short Hadith about virtues, teachings, morals, manners etc that fill the books of Hadith have not been remembered as excerpts from Friday sermons? Most Hadith narrate: ‘I heard the Rasul ﷺ saying:…..’ and don’t say when or where or how many people were present. Why would the narrator have to say it was during a Friday sermon? The fact that only short sayings of the Rasul ﷺ are narrated show the care taken when narrating to make sure the narrator can remember that exact statement being said. 2)If there was no Friday prayer then all the Hadith about the Friday prayer were fabricated. If someone managed to successfully fabricate and innovate and mass establish this new unknown practice - then why not fabricate sermons also? Or why not fabricate short Hadith (or add to lots of existing Hadith) - ‘I heard the Rasul ﷺ saying during a Friday sermon….’ The fact that this hasn’t happened is actually an evidence against you, a fabricator would have done this - and again, this shows the care taken when gathering the narrations. 3)Regarding Surah 62. You raise good arguments but the fact that the Jumma prayer may not be mentioned explicitly in the Quran doesn’t necessarily mean there is no Jumma prayer. It just means it’s not mentioned in the Quran where medieval tafseer scholars thought it was: there is no Hadith narration of the Rasul ﷺ discussing this Surah and saying it is talking about the Jumma prayer. Again, an evidence against you - if all the Hadith about the Jumma are fabricated, then why not fabricate a Hadith about the Rasul ﷺ referencing this Surah and teaching that it is about the Jumma prayer? 4)The charge of cowardice against Imam Malik and accusing him of nonchalantly watching millions of Muslims carrying out innovations without speaking out against them is a grave one indeed. A lot of the imams of fiqh (including Malik I believe) were persecuted, imprisoned, tortured and beaten for their views. As I said, I am a big fan of your channel and respect your views, but I feel the real problem is the medieval tafseer which actually don’t reference narrations. Regarding the narrations - don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. The narrations about the outward Islamic practices have been passed down en masses by the exact same people who have passed down the Quran to us.

[@abubakarahmed5072]

1- The scenario you present is highly implausible. For such an important event as the Ju,mu'a. If it did occur, for all the narrators to completely ignore mentioning it, even in their summaries (if you claim they couldnt possibly remember everything), its extremely implausible. I mean, not one, really? And again, this just highlights the unreliability of relying on hadith as a source of guidance, because it proves that most of the teachings of Muhammad could not have reached us, given the sheer impracticality of recording all his words, as you highlighted. Muhammad (SAW) had scribes. If he intended any such information to reach us, i'm sure he was more than capable of doing that. You ask: "What evidence do you have that all or most of the short Hadith about virtues, teachings, morals, manners etc that fill the books of Hadith have not been remembered as excerpts from Friday sermons?" This is definitely not a reasonable request. You are placing the burden of evidence on the wrong person. And for starters, none of them claim to be. Should you not be asking them to clarify where and when did these narrations come from, to gain a better understanding? Context matters. A lack of context, is in itself suspicious. A lot of the narrations may not include the surrounding circumstances, but at the same time, a lot do. It is, at the very least, extremely suspicious that not a single one would mention the context being a friday sermon. You ask: "Why would the narrator have to say it was during a Friday sermon?" Well one possible reason will be to stress the importance of what is being discussed. If he was saying things in large gatherings, it means what he was discussing was very important and he wanted it to reach the whole community, or to be spread far and wide. Again, context matters. Your characterization of hadith is ignoring the mass of contradictions within the hadith itself, blatant, well established falsehoods, and widespread non-conformance with known Qur'anic teachings and principles. 2- There are several possible scenarios here. Perhaps Friday was a day of gathering. The day before the sabbath for the previous community, as explained in the video, so people may have gathered before the 'off' day. But that gathering may not for prayer as we know it. Maybe it was a day of prayer or sermons for the previous community but not for us. You also present a double sided argument. If the narrations exist, you cite them as proof. If they dont exist, you also cite that as proof. Thats just too convenient. There are a lot of nuances that should be taken into consideration. I'm sure there were limits to what could and could not be done. Maybe it was too difficult to fabricate entire speeches and stay consistent (if he did give such speeches), who knows. Maybe fabricating Friday sermons will be too risky, as there may be many witnesses to attest to the fact that it never happened. Friday sermons would have been witnessed by many hundreds at a time , and naturally, there should be an overwhelming amount of reports from several sources, and at least some of them would have said, I heard such and such in a Friday sermon (even if they are just snippets), which we don't see Or maybe the truth is he just never did give any Friday sermons. Outright fabrication is not the only way to falsify information, manipulation and misinterpretation, omission, outright deletion, and many other techniques could be employed. 3- If its not mentioned in the Qur'an. Well, that certainly tells us what we need to know. Especially if you understand the importance of the Quranic methodology and instructions in the Qur'an. You are, by implication, placing the Hadith on equal footing with the Qur'an as indispensable, a foundational book for guidance. Meaning Allah forgot, or neglected to mention certain things in a book he tells us is complete, and left us to rely on made made narrations which may be right or wrong. And by the way, there are virtually no direct reports of Muhammad explaining the ayaat of the Qur'an extensively. There is no tafseer of Muhammad. Another thing to think about 4. I dont know about Imam Malik, so i'll skip this one. The Hadith has not been thrown out with the bathwater. But they have to be sifted through with established truth from the Qur'an. I will rather advise to not lean on the hadith as a primary source of guidance. Most importantly, regardless of everything, we have the Qur'an as the ultimate source of guidance, and Allah instructs us using his book, on what to do, and what not to do. Your last comment appears to be comparing the preservation of the Qur'an with the preservation of the hadith, when you say: "The narrations about the outward Islamic practices have been passed down en masses by the exact same people who have passed down the Quran to us.." Allah gave a guarantee to preserve the Qur'an. Can you say the same for Hadith? The Qur'an was recorded and widely memorized verbatim (which include all the diacritical marks by way of recitation) during the life of Muhammad (SAW). Can you say the same for hadith? Can you even say the hadith were passed down verbatim? Can show me aayat of the Qur'an passed down by classification of authenticity? There is simply no comparison here. Regards

[@seek_Al_Haq]

@@abubakarahmed5072 Fair enough. You raise some interesting points. It’s also worth noting that when it comes to the madhabs and outward practice - it is not just Hadith that they are based on, but also the mass practice of the people of an area who had learned from the companions. A Hadith is a narration from usually one companion. But observing thousands of students of the companions all agreeing and doing something is effectively a thousand Hadith even though they haven’t been formally narrated. I don’t recall any Hadith outlining which prayers are totally silent and which prayers are half silent etc but all the people of Madina at the time of Malik were praying the same way and they were all the generation after the sahaba. So this practice was effectively a mass transmitted Hadith. Same with Abu Hanifa in Kufa. All the Kufans were praying the same way as they had learned from Ibn Masud (who practically lived in the house of the Rasul ﷺ )and his students the generation before and Abu Hanifa documented it and took their mass practice as mass Hadith. The same could be said for the Jumma. All the people from these places who were the generation after and students of high ranking companions were offering Jumma in a certain way and this was taken as a mass Hadith of practice. There is a narration: ‘Pray as you have SEEN me pray’ People prayed by seeing and learning, not from writing it down in books. That came much later. Hadith were collected 200 years after Muhammad ﷺ. What were the Muslims using for their outward practice before this? They were learning from people and observing from people who had learnt from the companions. This is how it was taught to me anyway, but I wasn’t there and don’t know for sure. I also can’t help feeling that there is an element of ‘following your desires’ involved here. I feel as if the Dr above stated with Quranic proof that there are actually 10 long ritual prayers a day and they have to be prayed in congregation and the night prayer after sleep is compulsory also - that people would be less willing to accept. But when leaving ritual acts that people may find difficult is involved, people rush to want to believe it. I am intrigued by the tafseer methodolgy on this channel and respect it, but I notice a lot of comments with people asking the Dr about the 5 prayers now and whether they are true or not (again, secretly wanting to abandon them out of laziness and following desires). Why are they asking him anyway? Isn’t that making him an intermediary according to his own definition? Allah knows best

[@ellaella9832]

@@seek_Al_Haq Taking someone as an intermediary is considered associating partners with Allah, which is shirk. The lectures of Dr. Hany teach the methodology from within the Quran for understanding the real meaning of the ayats, and he always emphasizes the establishment of a direct connection with Allah alone. In one of his lectures, he discussed how shirk can cause someone to lose their connection to Allah. Therefore, your claim of taking Dr. Hany as an intermediary does not hold water. Beloved Muhammad pbuh had many roles during his time. He was a prophet to the Bani Israil or to all the alladhina amanu, demonstrated the correct actions (since the original Torah was lost during that time), to prove that he knew the law of the Torah, was also a military leader, and most importantly, he was a messenger to all, who delivered the message/Quran verbatim. If you reflect on it, there was a period of transition. First, he proved to the Bani Israil that he was a Nabi to them, and then he invited them to believe in the Quran. As believers, we, who are not from the Bani Israil or the alladhina amanu, should not follow the prophethood ways, we follow the direct message addressed to the believers. It's important to differentiate between a Nabi/prophet and a messenger/rasul as they are two different things. That is why there are ayats addressed to the alladhina amanu, the believers of the previous scripture Torah, and the believers of the Quran. We, as readers and believers of the Quran, should identify whether the acts or practices are addressed to alladhina amanu or to the almuminun. Or identify which role beloved Muhammad pbuh in the ayats, was he a nabi or a rasul in the ayats.

[@abubakarahmed5072]

@@seek_Al_Haq Thanks for the reply. In my view, from an objective look at all the sources, including the scenario you present, there appears to be some element of freedom given to the individual regarding Salaat. However, we now have sects that impose their way of prayer, sometimes forcefully, on the masses. The fact that the Qur'an does not prescribe a specific form, in my view, speaks volumes. I am a firm believer in the completeness of the Qur'an, because Allah says it is. The consequences of this may be uncomfortable for those of us that have come to depend on outside sources for foundational guidance. Muslims consider Salaat to be perhaps the most important thing, and yet claim that its details cannot be found in the Qur'an. I disagree with this view, as it violates the principle of the completeness of the Qur'an. I agree that some people tend to follow their desires. But being consistent, and engaging the Qur'an in the proper way, and seeking Allahs help wil,l insha Allah, help us keep that in check. From my experience, Dr. Hany does not guide or instruct people on how to do Salaat. He just teaches personal engagement of the Qur'an I have my own views on Salaat (which I will keep to myself). But one thing is for sure, ever since i've turned to the Qur'an exclusively for guidance, my Salaat sessions are generally much longer, in many ways more tasking, but much more fulfilling. Regards.

[@seek_Al_Haq]

@@abubakarahmed5072 It’s all just so confusing. Can see strong points from all angles. Feel like this is beginning to impact my health. I’ve learnt to respect all views now as I myself have changed my views on so many things through my life. I’ve always said: their is no such thing as Islam - only HISlam, or HERLam or THEIRLam, or MYLam based on my own nafs - which can also be a false god/intermediary to Allah (Surah 25:43) It is all about interpretation. So the question is WHOSLam are we supposed to follow? Everyone claims to follow the Quran and intends to follow the Quran. The only difference is how they interpret it and whose understanding they choose to adopt. But I do love a lot of the content on this channel - especially the part about the non-virgin natural birth of Jesus - which had always troubled me.

[@hand4529]

Salaamun Alaykum Alhamdulillah

[@munahassen4815]

Salamun alikum. Welcome Welcome our beloved visitor of AlRahmman. Alhamdulilahh Alhamdulilahh Alhamdulilahh ❤❤❤❤ And Welcome our beloved أهل Dr Hany ❤❤

[@MarvelousQuran]

Salaamun Alaykum

[@1541965]

@@MarvelousQuran I wonder why you twist the Holy Quran according to your desire and throw all Islamic Scholars and Traditions under the Bus to fit your needs ?

[@ellaella9832]

@@1541965 if we are to follow the "sunnah" of the beloved Muhammad rasulallah pbuh, could you please provide salatul jumuah khutbah by the beloved messenger?

[@kamissadanfakha4761]

Merci maître. ❤Allah.

[@SV-ki7si]

You mentioned Imam Malik, Can you also mention about Imam Jafar Al sadiq… what did he have to say about Jummah?

[@MarvelousQuran]

Our purpose is not t provide a complete survey of everyone's opinions. Frankly, they all lived under duress under tyrannical rule of the Abbassid. Some of them were physically tortured. What we received of their opinions is tainted and selective at best. Our reason for mentioning Imam Malik was simply to provide a counter example to the traditionalists' standard narrative, FOR THOSE WHO REFLECT.

[@2024newera]

Was there congregational prayer on Fridays like we have today during the time of Rasool Allah SAW? There seems to be a difference in the way the Friday (Jumaah) prayers are conducted by the Hanafi Imams and the Shafie Imams. The Hanafi Imam or some one else, a preacher, may give a lecture/sermon before the Azan for the Jumaah prayer in any language spoken in the area, and does not use the mimbar for this. After the Azan the Imam ascends the mimbar and recites certain verses of the Quran in Arabic and MAY translate into the native language for better understanding by the people who may not understand Arabic and also gives the supplication (doa) at the end before the salaat begins.The Shafie Imam on other hand combines both into one. Now which is nearer to the practice of the Rasool Allah SAW.? The Hanafi practice or the Shafie practice. Personally I have certain reservations about different madhabs as from my question itself one can see there seem to be differences leading to divisions in the Ummah. Are these divisions a blessing or a curse? Is giving a lecture/sermon before the Jumaah prayers an innovation or can it be considered as an action of Da'wah for the betterment of the Ummah?

[@MarvelousQuran]

We have the example of the Taraaweeh (night prayers in Ramadan). It was made a Sunnah of our beloved SAWS by generations of people "making it up" even after they knew that it was NOT done during the life of our beloved SAWS. Jumuah could very well be in the same vein. The lack of any evidence of a Friday sermon from our beloved SAWS only reinforces that likelihood.

[@zozoconde4623]

Allah bless you

[@ed-moles]

Alhamdullilah

[@fahadabid]

One issue with Jumma is that some Quranist say that Modern Arabic Days and Month names were created latter, and the original Arabic Days and months name were different at time of Prophet Muhammad (Like Jumma would be Arouba). So, this Ayah only mentions gathering rather than a specific day.

[@MarvelousQuran]

Not true! Be careful from whom you take your knowledge... There are many "me-too" channels who are actually not Quran-intentioned at all.