Yu-Gi-Oh History w/Joe Giorlando: Frog FTK (2010)

[@TheOuroborosLoop]

I'm really glad that I took MBT's advice. Thanks!

[@YGOHistory]

Glad to hear it!

[@milesgreenwood5036]

Honestly I'd love a video devoted just to test hands and watching this deck go to work

[@jeffreytam7684]

One of the coolest things to me about Yugioh (and other TCGs and some other hobbies), compared to professional sports is the way that extremely accomplished players like Joe can go into the nuts and bolts of a very technical aspect of their craft. Good speakers and the relative accessibility of the hobby means that a layperson can get an extraordinary amount of insight into fascinating aspects of the game

[@derrosenkavalier8890]

I'm re-watching some of these older segments like podcast episodes; it can't be said enough how Effect Veiler not existing in the TCG until August of this year was a major saving grace.

[@kangaroo558]

I look at modern yugioh and often get pretty upset about the "necessity" and power of hand traps but then I remember a combo of 3 of's like hand D + Treeborn + Substitoad/One for One and remember why they exist. I know this deck was kinda of absurd in hindsight, but I did love the pace of this entire format and think it was a really strong time for pace of place + power level + the meta as a whole.

[@Gustxr1]

Great video! Glad MBT recommended it

[@YGOHistory]

Awesome! Was it the recommendation from the D-Hero video?

[@URGLsRealm]

MBT recommended it from the History of Yugioh video on frog ftk

[@DoctorFalchion]

@@YGOHistory MBT recommends that viewers take the time to go and watch your video (as a "prerequisite") near the start of the new episode of Cimoo's History of Yugioh series - where Joseph is showcasing Frog FTK! (against Alex piloting X-Saber) (I'm assuming Gustavo saw it one day early on patreon)

[@DLH112]

i loved this and frog monarchs, soul exchange + substitoad is one of my favorite combos still

[@Talls8]

I never knew the extent of power this deck had cause I didn't start playing until after substitoad was banned. But honestly this video gives me an appreciation for what I thought was just an ftk.dek

[@fameman1239]

Really awesome, I had been really waiting for this one :) Love the combo segments

[@Apocralyph]

I actually remember seeing a video of a guy stacking Mass Driver and not getting the FTK because of it, way to prove your point about not opening Mass Driver being better.

[@URGLsRealm]

Those Swaps look so nice!

[@dominicakadragun3103]

I’ve been waiting for this

[@Raminator243]

Who else is here because of history of yugioh?

[@bowlboulcolinwoody2025]

I'm brought back to the one tournament I entered with this deck (it was a local that ended up being like 7 or 8 rounds) which I planned to use in the following format on a gamble that it wouldn't die (it did) because I came to realization that it was the best deck and playing anything else didn't seem worth it. Well in the finals of that tournament in game 3 against x sabers, I remember starting out with a hand that wasn't very good but managing to get it to a ftk position through some risky draw cards and after going through everything I got down to two cards in deck and couldn't draw anymore...and they were both of my mass drivers...

[@neatboutique1916]

Yet another great video, so much intelligent insights :)

[@Jiendo87]

Joe While the combo did work (and only just) I don't believe when you showed the FTK what you did was optimal. I have found in testing and from back in the day that 2 frogs being banished is the magic number and its quite easy to do. you run the gambit leaving in your deck only 3 poison draws and 1 swap (this is of course dependent on your hand but I find a majority of the time you have at least 2 frogs or a salvage to facilitate this) the last frog your send you turn into a poison draw then banish for Ronin twice leaving a field of Substi and 3 poison draw. you then use substi effect on itself to turn itself into swap frog and start sending for 3 draws, if you draw a salvage off it thats an extra draw as you use swaps effect to extra normal another poison draw then do it again (since Salvage gives you an extra discard fodder for swap too) other than that very insightful video tho I do note that when you drew the mass driver in the last combo you talked about being able to draw deeper, this is wrong as you hadn't sent the hand destruction you used to the grave, your hand at that point was only mass driver and substi (which is exactly 8k), you needed at least 1 card in hand to discard for the fishborg for it to work (which it did but you really didn't have much way to go much deeper. I also think it would have been worth pointing out while Moray is a good card in this deck its BAD when trying to find the mass driver, having 2 frogs back in your deck is really really bad as you most of the time nearly need them all to OTK/FTK. If i thought id need Moray to get to Mass Driver id be more inclined to keep the substitoad on the field at the end of the combo to get the last ones out but at the same time its a painful way to do it. Moray is great in your opening hand to unbrick but near the end i often find its almost as dead as Trunade Also can you please share some insight on the use of the double Dewloran, maybe im missing something important but in testing I always found that you were better off with something like a Chimeratch Fortress Dragon and another useful Sync over the Dewloran? Thanks

[@BlueRabbitKing]

nah

[@Promin3nce]

Been waiting for this one, not dissapointed! Frog best deck, lets goooo!

[@techkid5888]

The deck could have been better if Frog the Jam worked with the other Frogs

[@YGOHistory]

Could you imagine?

[@henrycarter5340]

Honestly my favorite deck of all time.

[@Dakki_]

Not the best version but the most fun deck I have ever played is Lancer Frog. That strategy was soo satisfying to play with its infinite ressources !

[@shadowdraqon2479]

If ronintoadin could have been used as synchro material. Frog synchro Would have been the epithet

[@YGOHistory]

In this deck - Toad basically turned Ronin into a non-tuner. 1 Ronin with Toad is any level 2 Frog.

[@Brickfall]

At 12:37 you mentioned making Colossal Fighter with Des Frog+Fishborg+Ronin, but isn't Ronin unable to be used as Synchro material?

[@YGOHistory]

I meant with Toad. Toad turns Ronin into anything (Des would only be on board via Toad).

[@Brickfall]

@@YGOHistory That makes sense, thanks for the reply and the great content!

[@dominicakadragun3103]

But how would you go about side decking? Like what would you cut for what?

[@Srdjan2000]

-2 mass driver -3 hand destruction -3 poison draw frog -1 card destruction -1 salvage -3 moray of greed + 13 except hanewata in every matchup except the mirror match

[@DuncanHarbison]

I've got this deck built and sometimes do solitaire with it when I'm bored. It's ridiculous how often you can still ftk if you remove all copies of mass driver from the deck and only allow yourself to "draw" them when there are no more cards left in the deck.

[@xRhythmk]

I thought ronintoadin came out in may?

[@Apocralyph]

Where did that Magical Mallet come from? I have never really seen it used in this deck and it appears to be the 41st card assuming you are using Trunade but not Heavy Storm.

[@YGOHistory]

Jimi and CJ ran Mallet at NAWCQ. I guess you're right. Galy cut it.

[@Apocralyph]

Mallet does maximize your chances of getting the FTK going first game 1, so I can see it, there are not really many other good cards in that slot. Still interesting though that they still opted to run Trunade in addition to that for a 41 card deck.

[@zvictorv-x.3907]

Best deck❤️

[@GizTang]

At the end, you said the two subsitoads and ronin were bricks when drawing through the rest of your deck, but is there any reason you don't or can't send them off of the other subsitoad during the combo?

[@YGOHistory]

Toad cannot special summon non-Frogs. Neither are "Frogs"

[@GizTang]

Does Swap frog not work multiple times in a combo?

[@YGOHistory]

@@GizTang You can bounce infinite times but only normal summon again once

[@GizTang]

@@YGOHistory if you special summon Swap Frog off of subsitoad doesn't he still get his foolish effect?

[@YGOHistory]

@@GizTang Yes, but depending on the makeup of your hand - you use the Swap Frog send from field effect to trigger Poison Draw without needing to ditch a water from hand to special summon it.

[@brianmcbride5225]

Looks like the main deck is 41 without heavy and 42 with heavy? Also, the extra deck you showed off is only 14 cards.

[@YGOHistory]

2 Dewloren

[@brianmcbride5225]

@@YGOHistory oh gotcha didnt catch that, thanks!

[@dabarker.y7465]

Isn’t swaps bounce eff a hard opt

[@YGOHistory]

Not in 2010.

[@dabarker.y7465]

@@YGOHistory oh wow lol

[@dabarker.y7465]

@@YGOHistory I was wondering in the mirror if both players sided out mass driver and one player puts up the lock how does the other break it?

[@YGOHistory]

@@dabarker.y7465 Don’t side it out or you need to QuickDraw into Destroyer (or Borg into Brionac).

[@jme731]

Ulti treeborn best card

[@hjjwoodstock9740]

Cannot be used as Synchro Material.

[@YGOHistory]

I know. I was shortcutting in my head (Toad turns any Toad into a LV 2).

[@s07561277]

Not sure Frog ftk was better than danger ftk. Not sure if Joe was playing in 2018. Not a good year for the game.

[@paulclarke6809]

unitoad

[@rickyalert]

joe im very disappointed at how u tried to showcase the combo. i watched u sac the swap u had on field post dump and knew you were lost :( u want all 3 copies of swap on field or in hand no matter what. you had to lean on rng after the blunder with shitty cards that no one actually played in this deck like mallet lmao keeping all 3 copies of swap on field/hand lets u abuse moray multiple times and resummon them from deck assuming u dont redraw them. it's literally not possible to whiff on mass driver even if u only run 1 copy in the deck assuming u know how to properly exec the combo. nice try though xD