Yu-Gi-Oh player hates MTG finance

[@fateadvicus6188]

Love seeing collabs between Cimo and CovertgoRed

[@fuuryuuSKK]

*OvertGoRed

[@SilverionX]

@@fuuryuuSKK *OvertStayRed

[@Xyra54]

@@SilverionX OvertStopRed

[@silentstormxd5530]

*mesa falcon guy d:

[@TheeGoodSir]

​​@@silentstormxd5530 arid mesa falcon guy*

[@pidgeotroll]

CGB, Cimoo, and Rarran's colab content has been amazing to watch as a long time MTG player who's dabbled in YGO and HS over the years. My favorite ones are anything MTG or anything with CImoo guessing since his insight is top-notch. Cimoo trying to guess MTG cards? Those are the top of the top!

[@JackCross3]

I love seeing them try to rate Yu-Gi-Oh cards because it's suuuuch a different game than they're used to

[@justanothergamer9570]

I wonder if they'll ever get a Pokémon TCG player into their group. I think Cimoooooooo got a Pokémon player on his channel for one video, and then it just ended.

[@benparilis1081]

With the three of you each making one video per other creator per week I am very happy to have one of these videos almost every day per week now. loving this content.

[@Faude18]

Completely agreed. It's my favorite content atm. I'd would love to see if they integrate a PKMN TCG player to the round.

[@SerechII]

Seriously, I just immediately click any combination of them that appears on my feed and know I have 1 hour+ of very comfy content to listen to

[@diegolamanya345]

@@SerechII same

[@Mrholysymbol]

Need to get some pokemon and warpforge people into the mix and it would all be complete

[@osuf3581]

These videos are a gold mine. They've done a number of them and I still instantly click it when there's a new. Not as much a fan of the price guessing though - which card is better/banned/nerfed etc are more fun since they are about game mechanics. Price I think should perhaps be done only for just a few notable cards.

[@caseheroes9835]

Big agree

[@chuckwagon3718]

Same. Price guessing mostly serves to pad for length and isn't super interesting to watch since it mostly seems to fluctuate based on stuff that the guessing person wouldn't know and isn't necessarily interesting to the viewer either (ie market dynamics)

[@TreeSixVideoCorp]

Absolutely agree - i think videos close to cardmarkets staple or stinker series would be awesome!

[@KM-qr4li]

I think rankings were the best way these videos have tried to get some meat/purpose to the talks, and got participants to really engage with thinking about each others' games. Would probably need to be curated a little differently to make comparisons make sense. I like the conversations, but "guess the number" turns into about a lot of "hmmmm"ing and "that number's big!"

[@asrieldreemurr1988]

Same

[@Gentlemanalien]

Maybe a Yugioh Player can find the way out of Monored-hell with an "Can a Yugioh player build a Mythic deck?" like you did with Rarran

[@ratiuvictor9533]

As a very new arena player any Yu-Gi-Oh players would love black decks. Half the deck are handtraps and graveyard effects.

[@OlgaZuccati]

@@ratiuvictor9533 funnily enough, I think simic just fits the yugioh playstyle. You cast a bunch of blue spells to annoy you opp and ramp your mana to the stratosphere to cast big unkillable monsters.

[@VCV95]

​@@OlgaZuccatiI started my card gaming in Yugioh, and my favorite color combo is still BUG. green for ramp and stomp, blue for draw and answers, and black for fetch and control. My favorite commander deck was Damia. It focused on insane ramp and repeating ETB effects. It was honestly fairly dangerous, and could sit at a table with decks I perceived as more dangerous

[@MrSimpsondennis]

@@ratiuvictor9533 as a somewhat veteran yugioh player, I mostly tempt towards red and blue. Handtraps are very disruptive, making it lean more into blue. We like our quick damage, which usually goes along with red (burn and haste damage mostly)

[@electricVGC]

80% of Yu Gi Oh players would build red, either mono or with one of blue or black

[@AzureAiluren]

CGB is ABSOLUTELY a stax player, he'd slam down The Tabernacle with a shit-eating grin and constantly ask everybody if they pay the 1.

[@leadpaintchips9461]

He'd do it once or twice on camera with his friends, but I don't see him doing that often either on camera with the persona that he has (because it's boring to watch) or offline (because he actually has friends instead of victims).

[@LinkThinks]

Hey CGB! Just finished watching the video and had a great time as always. Personally I prefer when these types of videos focus on the card analysis as opposed to price guessing, so I'd be lying if I said this was my favorite episode, but that's just me. This video did make me realize that I'd love to see an episode with Cimoooo focusing on various lands throughout MTG history. There have been so many cool and unique lands and I think it'd be fun to show that off and see how a Yugioh player can evaluate them. Keep up the great work!

[@asrieldreemurr1988]

Yeah I also don’t really like the price guessing

[@ScottieScottie-uw4xs]

I’d love to see an episode where he evaluates “fixed” versions of the Power 9 like Lion’s Eye Diamond, Lotus Petal, Mox Diamond, Mox Opal, Mox Amber, Chrome Mox, Mox Tanalite, Time Warp, Final Fortune, Time Reversal, and Time Spiral. Both the evaluation and the price guessing would be wild.

[@balrogdahomie]

Through in a few silver border cards just to mess with him I’m still not calling them “acorn cards”. They’re silver border in my heart.

[@Standyl14]

Ngl this kinda content between cgb/rarran/cimo is sooo much more enjoyable than watching a new deck face mono red 10 times

[@jadencorr6897]

Just for my hearthstone brains, monored game plan is “face is the place”?

[@777linus]

Imagine face hunter where almost every card has charge or enables those that have. ​@@jadencorr6897

[@nickolaslillogodoy3496]

@@jadencorr6897 Yup

[@jadencorr6897]

@@nickolaslillogodoy3496 Oh, awful to face it!

[@leadpaintchips9461]

@@jadencorr6897 Not just 'face is the place', but the most boring, and most successful, version is 'face is the place, and if I don't win by turn 4, I lose.'.

[@Bob-nc5hz]

7:30 "continuous artifact" is the last one, and technically all artifacts would lose their effect when tapped, it's just that only continuous artifacts (artifacts with a passive) were really affected. This rule was removed in 6th edition with a few cards (howling mine, winter orb) errata'd to retain the effect.

[@Blackadder75]

fun story, I found an Alpha Plateau in an old college book (I must have used it as a bookmark and I never played red-white back in the day) That was a really nice find, it was worth about €500 at the time I found it.

[@Crazimir]

These collabs are fantastic. Simple as. #1 Cimoooooooo #2 Rarran #3 The Weasel Need more of all of them!

[@DawwyDev]

Why would you want one YGO and two Hearthstone youtubers?

[@masksttt3172]

@dawwgdev ignorance like yours kills watch yourself human

[@Malao558]

Despite Ice Age being part of one of the worst periods of Magic history, it’s actually aged pretty well. It’s easy to forget that cards like Brainstorm and Memory Lapse were from Ice Age.

[@GrizonII]

Worth noting Memory Lapse is actually from Homelands (so Ice Age era but not the set Ice Age)-probably by far the Homelands card that has seen the most play over the years.

[@Malao558]

@@GrizonII whoops, my bad. They were right next to each other so they blurred in my mind.

[@SandroSegadora]

Or you know... Necropotence..

[@FuzzFPS]

Gotta love that bit of Rakdos fast mana offered by Burnt Offering from the set as well

[@rishnix]

@@SandroSegadora Jester's Cap & Jester's Mask were also in very high demand. I guess they're not on the reserve list though.

[@eckology016]

Another thing to consider with the price of Bazaar of Baghdad being that high is that in Vintage, on MTGGoldfish it has the price of 4 Bazaars at $9799. The total deck cost is $10,300. With 4 Bazaars alone, you basically have a top tier vintage deck built so it's in very high demand comparatively speaking because it's by far the "cheapest" way to get into the ultimate whale format. Any of the other decks are more around the 40-60k mark.

[@stephenyang8333]

I read somewhere that the Bazaar of Baghdad deck is one of the only decks in Magic history that wouldn’t benefit from playing a Black Lotus (and based on the price, it doesn’t play one), is that true?

[@hl6142]

​@@stephenyang8333yes, vintage dredge doesn't cast spells by using mana. They are using Phyrexian mana or pitch spells for interaction. However, the legacy manaless dredge deck that cgb talks about is something else. Because Bazzar is banned in legacy😂

[@GodzillaFreak]

@@hl6142 Legacy manaless dredge plays by discarding to handsize lmao

[@robmarney]

@@stephenyang8333 Yes! The only mana source in the entire deck is Wasteland

[@brodericksiz625]

Wow. Well, looks like I'll never play Vintage in my life lol

[@Petsinwinter2]

Stayed to the end! Absolutely loved this video. You guys have great chemistry together. I'm a Yu-Gi-Oh Player here 'cause of Cimo, but I absolutely adore the history and context of these old cards!

[@mattrodenbush6686]

I don't think I've ever heard CGB actually explain why A/B/U are the way they are Alpha was printed out of desperation, the company was tanking, they took all the money they had, created MTG, and sold out at gencon Beta was the hail mary, they took all the money they made on Alpha, printed another run of Alpha, and sold out again Unlimited was the company being back in safe waters financially and doing a proper print run of the set.

[@the_blahhh]

I think Cimo overestimates how good Bazaar is in a fair deck. Card disadvantage (when all your cards should be good) and losing your usual land drop (getting behind a turn) is disastrous if you're not playing a deck that is all-in on the graveyard, not just one that "uses" the graveyard.

[@mawillix2018]

I think he misread it as draw 3 discard 2. Instead of draw 2 discard 3.

[@dark_rit]

@@mawillix2018 Nah I think he understood that since he said it's draw 3 discard 3 per turn with it if you count your drawstep. At draw 3 discard 2 it's clearly good in anything that doesn't care about it not tapping for mana, which is the only real downside of the card. The point of bazaar as a whole is to do unfair things though because if you use it for fair things the ceiling is super low on the card, but if you do degenerate things with it like dredge it becomes one of the most powerful things in magic to ever be printed with only storm and other fast combo decks standing a chance if no graveyard hate is present.

[@__N8]

It's honestly just a YGO thing. Decks utilizing their GYs is pretty ubiquitous, so something that can just get three choice cards there is bannably strong. Especially since it digs into your deck too.

[@Dhips.]

His bigger misunderstanding is assuming commander players want to pick them up. I've seen it in commander once. I've seen it in vintage more time than I can count.

[@marimi46]

Yavimaya and Urborg completely mitigate the drawback of it not being able to tap for mana

[@NinjaxCad]

the conversations around dual lands inspired an idea for an interesting rarran vs cimo video: rank the different dual land cycles across time. all the different ways a two color land has been made.

[@Kirby950]

Mesa Falcon player yelling out “Cimooooooo” reminds me of Mucha Lucha’s intro.

[@whizwhizkim]

19:57 Step on all the toes you need, us Magic players rag on the font/background of old cards too 😂

[@eckology016]

It's Two-Headed Giant of Foriys (Four Eyes)! Because he has two heads so has four eyes! A pun! C'mon CGB!

[@theandyizzyshow]

Good catch lol

[@roguebanshee]

Should have shown him Ice Cauldron for the Ice Age Reserved List card, he would feel quite at home with that wall of text.

[@UCanBeatVideoGames]

Bazaar of Baghdad is banned in Legacy, but Dredge is still possible. Dredge with Bazaar is definitely a thing in Vintage, though.

[@randommaster06]

I have an unopened pack of Fallen Empires at the back of my trade binder. I like showing it to people when they say Magic is going to die because [insert reason here.]

[@stigmaoftherose]

The alpha/beta dual lands are the most awsome card backgrounds. The problem is that they have a mountain of text instead of just the two mana symbols.

[@dark_rit]

Yeah I like how in modern text they would just say island mountain and then in italicized parentheses have (T: Add U or R). Back then they didn't know anything about templating cards so they just explained it in vivid detail in the textbox to clear up ruling confusions, but people still got confused.

[@firedrake110]

Common price tag for underground sea over the last 5-6 years is 850-1100, surprised to see it was at 750 wherever CGB was looking

[@Blackadder75]

White borders are great!!!!! I grew up with revised and a bit of unlimited... our decks were 80% white border.. we hated those weird black bordered cards from Antiquities and Legends. We had never seen a beta card here in europe. Maybe a few commons. It would take a couple of years until black bordered was so normal that we actually tried to get a 100% black bordered deck. For that we needed Foreign Black Bordered cards from the base set, like a German Wrath of God or a French Birds of Paradise... Because by then alpha and beta were already very expensive and your decks still needed those base set staples.

[@makingnoises2327]

Really disappointed you didn't mention how important Underground Sea and Bazaar are for vintage, they're must play in certain vintage decks, and that's a huge factor in their demand.

[@Zisage]

UB is also a really popular (likely most popular right now) color pair in Legacy.

[@nickjoseph77]

Tabernacle is such a powerful and iconic card and was very strong in Gitrog and lands strategies. I remember a friend buying a copy for $1200 back in like 2014 maybe. Lol

[@cheshirecat6519]

You should make price bracket for price evaluation, at least Cimo would not be pure guessing.

[@muditjohar5323]

But it’s fun to see him being completely wrong

[@AzureShadow42]

The funny thing about Bazaar of Baghdad is that it isn't even played in commander (besides Gitrog!), it's alllll about vintage for this one. Same with Workshop but even moreso, 4x copies in the best Vintage deck ever forever.

[@SilverAlex92]

One thing worthy noting about the Duals: Most commander decks dont even consider buying duals, due the insane prices. HOWEVER in Competitive Commander (which a lot of local stores run as their own thing, not as a sanctioned thing from wizards), the duals are like a must have, and in that format blue black decks have like an insaaaaaaane playrate over the rest of the colors. Like for every Plateou playuer out there, there be at least ten or tweenty player looking for an Undeground Sea :)

[@michaelmills8205]

The size of Polar Kraken along gives it some more collectible value, as well as it's place in the history of Magic. First Creature to break 10/10, and it shows up on the artwork of Big Furry Monster. Autumn Willow is playable, and that is the highest compliment you can give a Homelands card. I like this historical context approach and how you can see the game grow as the victim evaluates. I've love to see Cimooooooooooooooo evaluate some cards from the Invasion, Odyssey, and Onslaught blocks. They are the first blocks with really strong mechanical identities and they would give Cimooooooooooooooooooooo some context for the Mirrordin cards for the "More times Magic Almost Died" video. I also think he would find the mechanics of those set interesting in general, as Odyssey was the first graveyard set and Morph would probably break his brain at first. Then you get to throw Storm at him too.

[@ysqure3]

1:35:10 Sadly, you always have the option to just decline to pay the upkeep and sacrifice the creature instead. You're not actually obligated to sacrifice the lands.

[@chandgrit]

13:45 you should show him angel of the dire hour one day. Also another suggestion i have is to show rarran/cimo silver border/acorn cards and a non silver border/acorn card just edit the cards frames out to hide the answer to see of they can guess what was meant to actually be played especially if you put legal sticker cards up to mess with them.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Underground Sea isn't just popular in commander, it's also popular in legacy. Any time there's a big legacy tournament, there will be players looking to buy Underground Seas. It is the best dual land by far, and blue and black are the strongest colours.

[@kurtmooreca]

cool to see Mishra's Workshop on here, would be the most expensive card I own and its even kinda scuffed, id say in the 1.8K range maybe 2 if the market is thin.

[@chuckwagon3718]

CGB wouldn't play Tabernacle in Commander, but he definitely would in Legacy

[@CelticMTG]

Something CGB should have mentioned before showing the Tabernacle is that Antiquities has 100 cards while Legends has 310. So triple the print run, but triple the cards so the print run per card is not that far off when it comes to Rares. (Also he should have mentioned Bazaar and Workshop aren't legendary, it makes quite a difference)

[@thesoundofwhitenoise2122]

I would love to see Cimo react to some of the Magic cards that absolutely break the rules of Magic and turn it into basically Yu-Gi-Oh. Or that would completely obliterate Yu-Gi-Oh if there ever were an analogue of those cards printed. I'm talking about cards like: Fecundity Recycle Food chain Wild Pair Aluren Knowledge Pool Hermit Druid Survival Of The Fittest Teferi's Puzzle Box Helm Of Obedience Squandered Resources Krark-Clan Ironworks Panglacial Wurm Worldgorger Dragon Mana Severance Oath Of Druids And if you really want to break his brain, figuring out how a card even works, there is of course Chains Of Mephistopheles, which needs a flow chart to figure out.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Correction: Manaless Dredge in legacy doesn't search for Bazaar of Baghdad because it is banned. There are no mana sources in the entire deck and they choose to play 2nd so they can discard to hand size. Vintage Dredge and Countervine decks mulligan very aggressively for Bazaar and can win within 2 turns. Bazaar of Baghdad decks don't use other Power Nine cards so are consistently the most accessible way to get into paper vintage for tournaments like Eternal Weekend.

[@pwnagecakes8934]

I’m just here to say these are always fun. Thanks for making so much content together.

[@clayxros576]

Made it to the end. And I love these videos where you show off what cards were good bad or even miserable. I'd especially love to see you two applause bad cards amd discuss how they could be better. Making my own game, knowing what's bad is WAY more useful and inspiring than knowing the top end.

[@timbombadil4046]

CGB: 57:48 They never printed a card like this again Magus of the Bazaar: 😢

[@whizwhizkim]

Another episode of the TCG Multiverse, good stuff!

[@kazemitra3896]

You guys are really pumping out the content, love to see it!

[@ReyosBlackwood]

3:05 Nope. 65 rares from Alpha/Beta/Unlimited and 94 rares from revised (including all the overlap) are NOT on the reserved list. Birds of Paradise was an alpha rare, so were Howling MIne, Nev Disk, Wrath of God, Winter Orb... The reserved list started with all the cards from alpha and beta that was not already reprinted in 4th or ice age, all Arabian Nights uc and rare that were not reprinted yet, and all rares from Legends and The Dark that were not reprinted yet.

[@Faude18]

The first Yu-Gi-Oh! set Blue Eyes White Dragon had 126 cards in a bunch of countries, but only 103 cards in the european english version.

[@spectralmaniac]

Stayed to the end! It was entertaining to listen to while cooking dinner and washing dishes. Crazy how big the difference is between cards from earlier and later sets included in the reserve list

[@saterdei]

Stayed till the end! What I'd like to see the most is Cimoooo guessing cards like Mirari, Phage, Karona, both versions of Kamahl, Ixidor, etc. These were the cards I grew up with and I have zero idea where they rank, so it would be a great discovery on my end, too. P. S: maybe parallel thoughts / battle of wits, a combo to which I had lost many games, many years ago.

[@calvinpentland]

Stayed to the end, the CCG universe videos are between you two and Rarran are endlessly entertaining. I genuinely can't wait to rewatch a bunch of these in a row in a playlist in a few years

[@fernandobanda5734]

As much as it was fun to introduce Cimo to basic Magic, Standard cards and now old cards in a Standard-like context, I think he'd be at home evaluating for Legacy/Vintage/CEDH. Let's get him to see Tendrils of Agony, Reanimate, Splinter Twin combo, affinity for artifacts, dredge, Metalworker, etc. and guess if they're still relevant at the highest level of Magic.

[@Shawns_snapshots]

Small correction: Bazaar dredge is a vintage deck, legacy mana less dredge wants to discard to hand size.

[@NigelUnleashed]

stayed to the end. love all these collabs so much.

[@Joseph125]

Autumn Willow is the original bogle, albeit at 6 mana. It's a shame Cimo will never get to see my favourite reserve list card, Farmstead. It's pure, unadulterated garbage.

[@streiifi]

U guys putting out so much content. Its insane. I've always something to watch and it become my favourite videos. I hope you expend it more!

[@Arsilfarid]

Oh Cimo, lol. Artifact decks are significantly less limiting than graveyard decks. In addition to what CGB said about graveyard interaction being more fringe than artifacts, only specific colors tend to get access to many graveyard shenanigans; mainly, black, and combinations with black (green/black especially). This is in stark contrast to YuGiOh where the majority of archetypes tend to get something to use the graveyard for (which is aided by the fact that YuGiOh doesn't have colors and has its own kinds of generic deck staples which can be run in anything). Artifacts, being colorless, can be (and usually are) run in pretty much every single deck. Even if a deck isn't focused on them, it's very likely that there are at least two or three artifacts in any given rotation that most decks want to use. Given that you just did a video evaluating several artifacts which were banned and considered commander staples (granted, at 0 and 1 cost), I was somewhat surprised that you didn't sus out that there might also be more expensive commander-staple artifacts. Also, you mentioned something about "if Magic had a Dark Magician or Blue-Eyes" in some capacity. It doesn't have icons like those two exactly, but the characters of Mishra and Urza would come pretty dang close.

[@MH-wz1rb]

Lmao, Cimo's guess for that Mishra's Workshop I just smiled and pointed to the ceiling

[@Daruffy]

I honestly generally don't watch videos over 20 minutes that often but i love these Cimo, CGB and Rarran videos so much. And definitely was here until the end!

[@sfcpudding]

Mono artifacts must be tapped to use their effect. Poly artifacts don't need to be tapped to use their effect. Continuous artifacts have an ongoing effect, but stop functioning if they become tapped in any way.

[@danhatter6823]

“I hate this white border.” ONE OF US, ONE OF US

[@MyNameIsMagus]

The power 9 got people so high that they were willing to suffer thru the fallen empire iceage homeland sets lol *stayed till the end

[@milanmach2379]

CGB triggered my fight or flight reflex with talking about Bazaar in Legacy. That would kill the format so fast lol

[@kevinmorris9362]

A note on Cumulative Upkeep: you are never required to pay it, you just sac the creature to get out of paying it. Thus, donating Polar Kraken does nothing.

[@therranolleo468]

so pay 11 mana for an 11/11 that can't even block and sack it the next turn without even untapping. got it nice turn there

[@RedAequus]

cimo is the only person in the history of magic to understand cumulative upkeep on their first read

[@kirikdredd2013]

As always, here till the end... Side note I owned 3 bazaars at the time of dredge... sold them for $200 each, regretted it immediately!! Time doesn't heal all wounds 😭

[@Luharib94-o1n]

stayed till the end. These videos are always soo much fun to watch. hope they never stop coming

[@theandyizzyshow]

I’ll finally comment on this series of card player of this franchise does this with other player of separate franchise. These are genius. They’re hilarious, entertaining, and not long enough. I started as a pokemon lover as a kid, actually played Yugioh as a teenager with the rules, then MTG as a high schooler and more. I love this series. It’s awesome to see. Now I’d like to see you all play against each other in your respective games.

[@jonbean1916]

Stayed to the end. Love listening to these sessions. Thank you.

[@UnqualifiedReviews]

Can confirm at least 4 Tundra, 4 Tropical Island, and 4 Savannah were destroyed in a washing machine...

[@brandonkallhoff7879]

Stayed til the end. I remember paying about $40 for my Goblin Wizard. It might be too slow/bad of a card, but cheating out more Goblins for Krenko is always a good time. I guess the argument is why not play the card you’re cheating out, but the counter argument would be that the Wizard is an investment. We all know Commander players don’t run enough removal lol

[@ashsattva]

Fun to hear Cimo's analysis, he's often very good at telling how good a card is.

[@aaronbaldwin9722]

Honestly fascinating discussion about the supply and demand of early MTG sets. Love to hear both of your takes

[@TheItalianoAssassino]

My guessing along as a YGO player who's never seen these cards before. 😂 Forcefield - $155 Plateau - $389 Giant - $2287 Underground Sea - $2000 Bazaar of Baghdad - $3350 Mishras Workshop - $1890 The Tabernacle - $7480 Goblin - $598 Aelopile - $7,74 Kraken - $111 Autumn Willow - $77 Most of em were not even close. 😂

[@Barraind.Faylestar]

For ‪@Cimoooooooo‬ 's mental health, Underground Sea is also in the top 3 for most played lands in Vintage and Legacy

[@TheHeartlessAlchemist]

In the OCG, Vol 1, the very first set of YGO had 40 cards.

[@leafy470]

More collab! Let's go!!

[@saterdei]

About the tabernacle at Pendrell Vale: I think it was Onslaught that included the Pyrostatic Pillar enchantment, which deals 2 damage to a creature when it's summoned, effectively stopping any creature at 1 or 2 toughness - and you could play more than one to pretty much ban creatures. However, enchantments are a lot easier to destroy than lands, so... there's that.

[@roman-arpvanuum8254]

Aether Lightning, first printing in Weatherlights, did it for 2RR

[@dark_rit]

Bazaar of baghdad isn't legacy legal, but it's vintage legal. It would be way too broken for legacy. You can mulligan to this card and have it be the only card in your hand and win the game on turn 3 or 4, it's so damn broken. The first time it got broken was when worldgorger dragon was printed this + worldgorger dragon + animate dead dumped your entire deck into the graveyard potentially, which wins the game.

[@Weslykan]

Honestly I really just enjoy these collabs. They're very fun to see bounce off each other. Just some real nice chill vibes stayed to the end

[@andrewflare1361]

This is great. I feel like this whole thing is a rouse to get Cimo into magic. 😂

[@user-tx2mu3cr2o]

Stayed to the end! I will say goblin wizard has some really STUPID goblins to work with nowadays. Shoutouts to muxus...

[@latexcupcake]

A good thing about the current meta is that we hopefully get more collabs because it(the meta) sucks. btw watched through the till the end, I don't know if you said to comment that purely for engagement or not, but I do truly enjoy your content, even if I don't play magic.

[@darienhernandez4206]

Stayed til the end, and I am so excited for the next collab from you guys!

[@BoofsBoofington]

You two are outstanding together. Honestly... the best pair so far. Just two semi-reasonable-ish adults talking about cardboard. Howling Mine is continuous artifact! I think it's cuz Cimo takes it seriously. Respect. Yugioh Commander! 4 Players! Try it! Humility is my Forcefield in Commander. Love it every time. Yes! Magic players rejected sleeves in the beginning! Also, artifacts were extremely popular in the early magic.

[@keagancollins3243]

stay to the end every time, love this series on each channel

[@bmccarthy9]

Stayed to the end. I think some of these cards aren't price affected by commander play as much as legacy/vintage play. The lands shown in the middle are some of the most unique and very strong effects and remain best in slot in 1v1 games in legacy and vintage. The original duals are the best 1 mana producing lands ever. They have made a lot of lands since and discounting that some cards care about them being nonbasic, they are the only lands that are purely better than a basic land. Almost every other land has some downside compared to a basic land (often coming in tapped for weaker dual lands). Bazaar of baghdad is not generic. The inherent card disadvantage from activating bazaar, plus it being a card itself means you very quickly have no cards in hand. There are vintage decks that play it but they don't use the graveyard as a second hand, almost everything happens from the graveyard (or discard) and the hand is just stuff that didnt go to graveyard yet. Mishra's workshop - a bunch of cards are restricted in vintage because when they got played on turn 1 by a mishra's workshop the game was effectively over. Tabernacle of pendrell vale isn't about taxing creatures. It's about blowing them up. Either you are running mana denial, or you're sideboarding it in against a deck that gets creatures without making any mana (like say, a bazaar of baghdad deck).

[@emeliajones1795]

I will say CGB keeps one of the better poker faces while the other person is guessing amongst people who do this kinda video. Very nice for letting you guess along at home without spoilers

[@jordan853]

Cimooo vastly overestimates the amount of decks running or even considering running reserve list cards in commander lol

[@OmgPuppies]

29:30 It's easy to remember the correct pronunciation because it's a pun on "four-eyes"

[@borisivanov8169]

These colabs are way more fun than watching standard BO1 in the current meta. Good stuff.

[@IzzRei]

Stayed to the end I really enjoyed learning about Magic’s history, been playing since 2011 and there was a lot I learned here

[@kelthor167]

Stayed till the end :) I love these videos, even though I don't play any of the games anymore.

[@purplatypus7405]

Overhype Underhype is my favorite version ive seen of these videos. I love the mind games. Hope we see more of those!

[@nedcurfman3486]

Shop being more niche than Bazaar is a WILD take. One breaks neutral on card advantage only with your draw for turn, and the other is a lotus every turn for a single card type

[@dark_rit]

It's because in yugioh bazaar would be stupid broken since they use the graveyard in almost every deck that is played so coming from that game it seems absurd. To someone that plays magic exclusively workshop seems better at a glance because it's lotus every turn for artifacts but that's hardly relevant when workshop decks are just artifacts. Being a pillar of the vintage format takes great power to do. As for what is better I'd say bazaar is better because you could mulligan to 2 cards with one being bazaar and you win unless you get killed by opponent combo'ing off or they have graveyard hate.

[@mincinmind9440]

One thing that goes through my mind as a YuGiOh brain with Bazaar(knowing that we need to print HOPT on everything), if there is a way to untap Bazaar that is cheap enough, just the pure filtration possible

[@menderbug1]

I'm loving every second of the TCGCU! You guys have such amazing chemistry and play off each other so well, just waiting for the Endgame where Rarran, CGB and Cimoooo all appear in the same video

[@FearTheCaboose1337]

I'm pretty sure that's happened twice on rarrans channel

[@menderbug1]

At the same time or separately recorded segments?

[@FlawlessRhythmGG]

1:43:14 Hey Cimo, there's totally a commander deck (kinda popular too) that is all about playing cards with crippling downside and then passing it off to an opponent. And yes, it's part Blue. 🙃

[@randomjunk1977]

I know the exact card you need for that Polar Kraken combo. Bazaar Trader: 1/1 Goblin 1 red 1 Colorless. Tap: Target player gains control of target artifact, creature, or land you control. The problem of course is that upkeep is optional. All the opponent had to do is NOT pay the upkeep and let the Kraken die.

[@laggalot1012]

Watched to the end! 🙂 Is anyone keeping a playlist for all these collab videos between CGB, Cimo and Rarran? I feel like I'm probably missing some of them. And as a Yugioh player, it's also a lot of fun getting a little insight into these games I never play. (I've played probably some 5 games of Magic before, using borrowed, possibly pre-constructed decks, many years ago.)

[@r3cy]

it's hilarious to me hearing this talk about 'Arabian nights'. I remember working in a games store (mostly miniature games, but lots of mtg and pokemon too). and we had boxes of arabian nights we could never sell, because no-one liked the small pack size. i didn't start working there until 4th ed was released either... so the arabian nights boxes were on the shelf for over a year. i've only just returned to MTG and honestly never realised arabian nights cards had any value, shows how isolated each MTG community was back in the day, there was no global marketplace at all.