Yuja Wang / Volodos - turkish march

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Michel Venchiarutti

Michel Venchiarutti

8 жыл бұрын

Yuja Wang & Arcadis Volodos alternativement

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@tylerspence344
@tylerspence344 3 жыл бұрын
Yuja made it sound like a ballet. Volodos put the March in Turkish March
@antipianist8652
@antipianist8652 3 жыл бұрын
Thats it.
@Epdos
@Epdos 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@smileyfrown4784
@smileyfrown4784 2 жыл бұрын
He's so fast. Never seen anyone able to play such HEAVY octaves as fast as him. It's incredible the speed AND power he can produce under his fingertips simultaneously
@Armed_Chicken
@Armed_Chicken Жыл бұрын
@@smileyfrown4784 Agreed
@Musica_Vita
@Musica_Vita 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!❤
@etnocnad
@etnocnad 7 жыл бұрын
Ms. Wang seems to have extended the range of what is humanly possible in terms of speed, clarity and evenness of tone. She is also a very sensitive and musical pianist. Still, she could learn a thing or two from Mr. Volodos. But why would you want everybody to play the same way?
@gtubetaiwan
@gtubetaiwan 7 жыл бұрын
Great point. No need for everyone to play the same way.
@sneezesaw2611
@sneezesaw2611 4 жыл бұрын
Her courage is undeniable
@MARTIN201199
@MARTIN201199 4 жыл бұрын
Search for Kristina Miller videos
@craigopperman5999
@craigopperman5999 8 жыл бұрын
yuja wang is an awesome pianist no doubt, but Volodos is uncomparable and his virtuosity is second to none!
@aravindgundakaram1830
@aravindgundakaram1830 4 жыл бұрын
Craig Opperman to cziffra maybe?
@jamiedavis832
@jamiedavis832 3 жыл бұрын
@@aravindgundakaram1830 Hamelin would like to know your location
3 жыл бұрын
Volodos is a piano giant. All of his concerts are a revelation!
@Ludwig142
@Ludwig142 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiedavis832 guys, do you forgot the horowitz
@McBenni95
@McBenni95 2 жыл бұрын
A second to none is maybe a bit much. Listen to the 12 etudes Marc-Andre-Hamelin wrote for example. They refere to composers like Charles Alkan, Chopin, Liszt and others. In my oppinion those two composers and interprets, Volodos and Hamelin share the 1st place when it comes to virtuosity. Interpretation is won by Socolov or Trifonov. (Taking into account living pianists only, of course ;-)
@johncotta8288
@johncotta8288 4 жыл бұрын
To me, they are both beyond a skill of which I will never grasp nor even come close. There by...Completely humbled by both these most magnificent performances!....All my respect and praise!
@mynameisbrigham
@mynameisbrigham 3 жыл бұрын
This video is perfect evidence that playing a song faster isn't better.
@zebeauv
@zebeauv 3 жыл бұрын
La capacité de Volodos à faire sonner le piano est incroyable...
@ParthaDey97
@ParthaDey97 6 жыл бұрын
It's like comparing a high-speed drill that a dentist uses and a sledgehammer, take your pick on how you want your tooth removed. I prefer the sledgehammer approach with this.
@lamprete
@lamprete 4 жыл бұрын
Good comparison! I'd prefer the high-speed drill, though. It's so much clearer and more transparent.
@lamprete
@lamprete 4 жыл бұрын
I might add that the sound quality played to the advantage of Yuja as well.
@tylerspence344
@tylerspence344 3 жыл бұрын
lamprete Yuja is good but I still think Volodos puts the march in Turkish march
@DihelsonMendonca
@DihelsonMendonca 4 жыл бұрын
The editor of this video put the virtuoso parts to Yuja Wang to play, and even slowed down Volodos on the final. Incredible. But Volodos composed that, not a mere interpret.
@TipoQueTocaelPiano
@TipoQueTocaelPiano 7 жыл бұрын
It's clear that Volodos plays it much better. He cares for the clarity of the polyphony and rhythmic subtleties, Wang plays fast and accelerated. Volodos chords have much more power than Wang's. But they both play the "tinker bells" (2: 13 and 2:57) so sluggishly.
@Tchristman100
@Tchristman100 Жыл бұрын
Mr Volodos is an excellent pianist, but is ponderous. Yuja is flowing with no one else that can execute a song as accurately as her-whether finger blurring fast or slow with expression.
@brozors
@brozors 4 жыл бұрын
With Volodos I hear bells chiming, with Wang I hear a metallic typewriter
@Pogouldangeliwitz
@Pogouldangeliwitz 10 ай бұрын
Funny, but inaccurate. She's definitely sewing machine level.
@neviodelmonico9112
@neviodelmonico9112 4 жыл бұрын
C'è sempre da aspettarsi qualcosa di eccezionale, con questa meravigliosa interprete!
@masterofsynapsis
@masterofsynapsis 5 жыл бұрын
Volodos : “Even today, when I see the number of people who watch my 'Turkish March' on KZbin, or people who ask me for the score after a concert, I get sad.”
@Superphilipp
@Superphilipp 3 жыл бұрын
That's nonsense
@felipe2637
@felipe2637 3 жыл бұрын
?
@cozycazyrah4836
@cozycazyrah4836 2 жыл бұрын
Just so you know that this Turkish March variation is arranged by Arcadi Volodos himself, if there's anyone who can play better than the arranger, it'll be none other than himself. Since whatever he play would be the original interpretation of what it should actually sound like. To achieve how Volodos played is no simple feat, in fact, it's almost impossible. Each pianist have their own musicality that is unique and differ from one another. in this case, Yuja Wang is an absolute genius to deliver a totally different expression to this piece. It feels light, graceful and elegant, like a fairy dancing beneath a beach blossom. In contrast, Volodos piece feels heavy, solemn, dignified, with endless energy. Almost like a commander in a war, giving a war cry to charge farward.
@user-ic2km6mn4h
@user-ic2km6mn4h Жыл бұрын
If he says he likes hers more, then it means she's better.
@7050em
@7050em Жыл бұрын
Magical moments. Enchanting!
@7050em
@7050em Жыл бұрын
Won’t change. Still a fan👏👏👍
@gerry30
@gerry30 10 ай бұрын
Does anybody remember when Volodos first showed up on the international scene? After a few years of "...there will never be anyone like Horowitz..." Volodos showed up, played Horowitz' transcriptions and the main difference was that Volodos had a "warmer" sound and better phrasing. People were gobsmacked. He was considered the artistic alternative to Lang Lang (I don't know if Lang Lang has improved but he had some pretty distorting liberties he would take at the time.) After that virtuosic shockwave, Volodos developed into a truly profound interpreter of the restrained and spacious repertoire. His Schubert is deeply moving.
@paulodacosta4128
@paulodacosta4128 6 жыл бұрын
Impressionante fazer um elogio a esta belíssima Deusa dos Dedos Velozes ouvindo seu concerto.
@DihelsonMendonca
@DihelsonMendonca 4 жыл бұрын
Volodos: "Hey...I did this, not just playing".......
@ricardoblancorodriguez5457
@ricardoblancorodriguez5457 5 жыл бұрын
VOLODOS!!!!!
@RomeoMaestro
@RomeoMaestro Жыл бұрын
I prefer Yuja, she is playing very precisely, musically and delicate. Very tasty.
@fidelcastro9112
@fidelcastro9112 5 жыл бұрын
Volodos went so fast the video's sound couldn't catch up! HAHA 3:53
@ripinpepperonies9754
@ripinpepperonies9754 6 жыл бұрын
Yuja may have slightly more technical ability when she plays, but for this piece I much prefer Volodos. His arrangement was meant to be grand, loud, and full of energy. When Yuja plays this, she sacrifices power for speed. Her playing generally sounds very light and fluffy. Volodos adds musicality and volume to every single note. And nobody, NOBODY that I know of is able to play the last portion from 3:24 till the end like Volodos can. His octaves are like a machine gun. He makes the finale so powerful and so grand that it rings. Yuja, on the other hand, attempts to play forte at 4:19, but all that results in is her banging right hand A octaves. Also, it is worth mentioning that this may not be entirely Yuja's fault. This piece by Volodos has no real sheet music anywhere. Anything you find online are other peoples' attempts at transcribing this piece, which tend to have many inaccuracies. Aside from a few of her own interpretative changes, she seems to have followed the most common sheet music online, which in some parts doesn't even closely match what Volodos himself actually plays. A good example of this is 3:20-3:24 and 4:02-4:06.
@argon12able
@argon12able 3 жыл бұрын
Volodos is the only one who can play that
@venture7o7
@venture7o7 7 жыл бұрын
i feel like the microphone positioning and quality between the two used made these vids unfairly comparable. In Volodos vids it sounded like the piano was right next to my ear, whereas in Yuja's vids there was noticeable distance. They're both Great though.
@gwapster13
@gwapster13 5 жыл бұрын
It's quite a bit silly to compare another pianist's version to the original pianist who actually transcribed it. They are both great, but the original deserves much credit and will always be the "correct" or "reference" version by default, as far as this transcription is concerned. (Don't get started saying Mozart is the correct one, well of course LOL).
@andreasstreicher8467
@andreasstreicher8467 7 жыл бұрын
volodos is so good. I like the way he makes the music sound so much more. Yuya is mechanical top.
@Moptohor
@Moptohor 2 жыл бұрын
I think the main point here is not only the speed and virtuosity but the vastness of mind of mr Volodos. He is unreachable for Yuja mostly in this. She cares about speed and virtuosity and that's her main aim and she rushes and she is warrior of speed... But Volodos... Virtuosity is just one of his many-many instruments. Yuja cares about how to repeat this even in more virtuosic way than Volodos. But... Volodos cares only about music. Btw: some of his new videos: Arcadi Volodos plays Mompou These gradations of sound are so beautiful.
@ianboard544
@ianboard544 6 жыл бұрын
Who is better? Silly argument. They're both good, but I prefer his sound.
@paulmetdebbie447
@paulmetdebbie447 4 жыл бұрын
And timing!
@FrancisAsin-Gioro
@FrancisAsin-Gioro 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously Yuja has put decades of hard practice to get there (totally successful) and Volodos is nature
@teissyu
@teissyu 7 ай бұрын
弾けるだけでも超すごいけど、こんなにも力強く弾けるヴォロドスは人間超えてる
@paulmetdebbie447
@paulmetdebbie447 6 жыл бұрын
Wang = more notes per second. Volodos = more music per bar.
@isabellalomuscio1205
@isabellalomuscio1205 7 жыл бұрын
eccellentiiiiii
@danyhenrard4072
@danyhenrard4072 4 жыл бұрын
je partage certains points de vue évoqués avant moi On peut préférer l'un à l'autre mais on ne peut vouloir comparer en qualité 2 choses différentes, Volodos nous donne une version assez classique et très agréable, Yuja quant à elle laisse libre cours à une variation loin de l'oeuvre de base. Pour moi les deux sont agréables à écouter et il faut ici admirer les 2 types de vertuosités. Et de plus Yuja a la jeunesse pour elle, la fantaisie, la légèreté que l'on retrouve souvent dans ses choix vestimentaires.
@danielaprea8282
@danielaprea8282 2 жыл бұрын
Os dois são maravilhosos, mas o Volodos é sensacional.
@ssbuzeno
@ssbuzeno Жыл бұрын
No original video link?
@blumenliederr
@blumenliederr 3 жыл бұрын
Volodos win
@astridschlegel6884
@astridschlegel6884 3 жыл бұрын
Wow bravissimo
@haritsprabowo1048
@haritsprabowo1048 5 жыл бұрын
Yuja wang is clearly one of the best living pianist. But for this piece, I prefer Volodos :)
@xukinei4323
@xukinei4323 3 жыл бұрын
各擅胜场! Volodos胜在深厚的音乐功底及对钢琴的理解。Yuja Wang胜在极好天赋及无限可以想象的未来。
@michelvenchiarutti116
@michelvenchiarutti116 3 жыл бұрын
完全同意你
@aryawijaya9808
@aryawijaya9808 5 жыл бұрын
Weeeddyyyaaannnn
@craigopperman5999
@craigopperman5999 8 жыл бұрын
yes but he plays flight of the bumblebee much better then her. Listen to both versions and you will see.
@andrewd4890
@andrewd4890 Жыл бұрын
The music was written to satirise an invading army. So anyone’s playing that achieves that will satisfy and amuse the long dead composer. I liked both arrangements.
@rikidozan93
@rikidozan93 Жыл бұрын
good thing we have men and women virtuosos
@tjukhernantiyo9231
@tjukhernantiyo9231 6 жыл бұрын
Keduanya sama sama hebatnya.
@monkeyman15387
@monkeyman15387 6 жыл бұрын
It sounds better at volodos' speed.
@leopianotuner
@leopianotuner 2 жыл бұрын
Yuja Wang's playing was more fun to hear. It was light, whimsical, clear, and surprising. Volodos, on the other hand, was pensive, pompous, and with a heavy tone like a canon. He was like a Gorilla in a cage pounding to get out of his cage. Yuja Wang was like someone playing a trick to one's ear.
@gretchenjimenez8088
@gretchenjimenez8088 9 ай бұрын
Ivan Bessonov sigue siendo el mejor intérprete de esta obra...
@Balja69
@Balja69 4 жыл бұрын
Not everybody plays same way they have different emotions
@KaisarAnvar
@KaisarAnvar 6 жыл бұрын
Yuja is machine. Voldos is God.
@sigertjohansen
@sigertjohansen 5 жыл бұрын
C'est palpitant comme comparaison, comme s'ils étaient en compétition et comme si on avait le moindre critère objectif pour juger de la victoire, comme Liverpool bat Tottenham par 2-0. D'autant plus qu'ici on ne compare pas deux interprètes mais deux vidéos. Et quand on voit ce qu'une vidéo enregistrée dans des conditions forcément différentes devient quand elle est mise en ligne après avoir subi la compression/décompression et la restitution sur un haut parleur de 1,5 cm dans le métro cela revient à comparer KZbin et Dailymotion ou des choux et des oignons. Je n'ai pas le temps de regarder le match, envoyez moi seulement le score final
@michelvenchiarutti116
@michelvenchiarutti116 5 жыл бұрын
C'est vous qui voyez un match dans cette comparaison ! n'est-il pas interessant d'écouter des interprétations avec des approches différentes ? les deux versions sont dignes d'intérêt et c'est une injustice que de vouloir les hiérarchiser. Par contre, rien n'interdit une préférence ou d'aimer les deux versions. J'adhère à l'idée de sensibilités multiples où chacune à le droit d'exister et d'être acceptées par tous. la musique nous dévoile la beauté universelle et nous élève au dessus des contingences du quotidien.
@jorgecarranza251
@jorgecarranza251 3 жыл бұрын
Doble like por cada uno.
@Ipbulldog
@Ipbulldog 3 жыл бұрын
Good try, but… If you close your eyes you’ll know whose playing without doubt. YuJa wins in a landslide. Actually this is a really good learning experience. Yuja’s technique is light and airy at the chosen tempo throughout seemingly without effort and the melody is never drowned out by the “accompaniment “.
@rawreiki
@rawreiki 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the fairy sound of Wang over the bold sound of Volodos. She is proof that a fast piece can be piano and melodic at the same time.
@TimoTheePiano1
@TimoTheePiano1 Жыл бұрын
People saying Yuja is better are deaf, and know nothing about music... Don't disrespect the goat volodos. Specially if the arrangement is made by him and Yuja just learned it.
@HermanIngram
@HermanIngram 3 жыл бұрын
The difference between testosterone and estrogen.
@SerG-ez2po
@SerG-ez2po 7 жыл бұрын
listz supposed to play it like that
@jerometaylor4243
@jerometaylor4243 5 жыл бұрын
So say YOU?!!!
@jjonga007
@jjonga007 4 жыл бұрын
Wang is light and only plays fast. However, he plays with a sense of stability. I think Volodos is better.
@ThePenguin6320
@ThePenguin6320 5 жыл бұрын
It's pianistically ignorant to compare who played better. But I prefer Volodos' colorful interpretation.
@user-ni6zv8kk4f
@user-ni6zv8kk4f 6 жыл бұрын
볼로도스는 파워풀한 매력 등 정말 곡을 연주 할때마다 감정이 고스란히 느껴짐 유자왕은 정말 미안하지만 기계가 치는거 같음 그냥 빠른건 정말 인정하는데 어느부분에서 감정을 느낄수 없었고 오로지 속도만 빠르다고 느껴짐
@eddibe0
@eddibe0 4 жыл бұрын
ㅇㅈ..
@cskim2960
@cskim2960 3 жыл бұрын
뭐 기계가 치는거 같다고?ㅋㅋ 유자왕도 세계급 거장이다 니가 감정을 느낄수 없는건 니가 등신이 때문이지
@dinogaggia1928
@dinogaggia1928 3 жыл бұрын
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@proyectocms
@proyectocms 4 жыл бұрын
Is it music? it rather seems an egos competition!
@Rudel23
@Rudel23 Жыл бұрын
2 monsters...
@bdn-135
@bdn-135 3 жыл бұрын
Volodos气势好,是爷们吗?/王羽佳的清晰度、颗粒性和技巧更胜一筹!期待王羽佳自己编曲?!
@CaoBlook
@CaoBlook 8 жыл бұрын
Yuja all the way-though V is good...
@jedrzejsteszewski6694
@jedrzejsteszewski6694 3 жыл бұрын
V is on a whole different level. Test your ears, not eyes.
@angelobonacci461
@angelobonacci461 Жыл бұрын
Due grandissimi virtuosi..ma la marcia turca eseguita a tempo giusto con un ottimo pianoforte rende molto di più nella versione originale di Mozart..
@xavierjacque1821
@xavierjacque1821 4 жыл бұрын
un charmant petit oiseau à côté d'un dindon!
@oscarc332
@oscarc332 4 жыл бұрын
olga scheps play volodos version better
@NOSEhow2LIV
@NOSEhow2LIV 5 жыл бұрын
Very entertaining and fascinating for the jealous pianists! Direct comparisons are neccessarily artificial; if one hears one or the other separately, they're both absolutely fantastic. However, for me, cruel to say it as i love most of Yuja's work, but she makes less effect in the direct comparison. People who only understand speed will prefer her, but, for me, this is a fine demonstration of how, so often, speed is the enemy of true virtuosity! With Volodos i hear wit, humorous timing, color, texture and unbelieveable clarity, all with immense mass and power. The Turkish "crash", (musical term!), is really in character here! Yuja speeds thru lightly, missing the witty character, the colors, the harmonies, (admittedly her "Volodos version" is slightly different; i've heard her live, playing it differently again from here!). Yuja goes too fast for absolute clarity, impressive tho she is. I've always been annoyed that she skips the repeat of the recap, (2.57), throwing the scheme out of proportion and missing the chance for an extra-witty grimace, (Volodos' holding back here is marvellous...), and she lightens the LH octaves near the end. Volodos remains an absolute original, Yuja will surely go even further than this; i'm deloght that she tackles all these brilliant encores already, but the effect will be even greater when she masters the art of holding back at important moments.
@MrMgioiello
@MrMgioiello 4 жыл бұрын
Is this some kind of sick joke? Comparing Yuja Wang who plays with absolutely no tone colour, no musicality, no passion. She just plays correct notes and uses sex appeal, which should have no place in classical music. Volodos is one of the greats without a doubt. A absolute master of interpretation, contrast, a true musician and a virtuoso
@josefvacula2100
@josefvacula2100 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. Not to mention butchered octaves. Not even close full sound in them, unlike Arcadi.
@user-hi3sm8np7p
@user-hi3sm8np7p 3 жыл бұрын
まさかVOLODOSさんも自分より早くひく人が現れるとは思ってなかったであろうw ユジャさん最高!
@user-tp9hc8iv2x
@user-tp9hc8iv2x 5 жыл бұрын
a chinese sequencer try to copy the real genius, no match of course, the chinese plays with 2 tones x gamma, the russian has in his hand the full possibile spread for a pianist, the real pianism...
@daffyduck4195
@daffyduck4195 Жыл бұрын
YW wins it by a mile. Her fingers are nimble and she plays whimsically while Volodos's fingers are like heavy weights and he plays like a brute at the piano.
@OverLordGoldDragon
@OverLordGoldDragon 8 жыл бұрын
Volodos totally killed it. She's not even half his skill.
@CaoBlook
@CaoBlook 8 жыл бұрын
What a pianistically silly post
@hjhseo1114
@hjhseo1114 7 жыл бұрын
OverLordGoldDragon U shouldn't go around comparing which artist is more "skilled". It's rude and not how you listen to music. It doesnt matter how much better you are than other people. It matters that the artist makes his or her own unique mastery to the art.
@fooksengloke3625
@fooksengloke3625 5 жыл бұрын
OverLordGoldDragon Volodos killed it. Yuja made it come alive.
@oscarc332
@oscarc332 7 жыл бұрын
yuja is like the daishinkan beside volodos
@Skytalker777
@Skytalker777 5 жыл бұрын
Yuja is the best, more technical, cleaner, faster, more expressive!!!
@editionscur-fragrance3769
@editionscur-fragrance3769 4 жыл бұрын
Pourquoi vouloir comparer le jeu d'une femme avec celui d'un homme ? Est-ce la même force, la même finesse, la même sensibilité. Ceux qui veulent l'égalité se trompent, c'est la complémentarité à valeur égal qu'il y a à vivre et à accepter.
@lucascorrea3748
@lucascorrea3748 8 жыл бұрын
es mejor yuja wang
@MrBillsun
@MrBillsun 7 жыл бұрын
definitely yuja wang. sounds better looks better and she plays much faster than her counterpart, though, Volodos is no doubt a great pianoist.
@peep3879
@peep3879 5 жыл бұрын
Sound is extremely subjective when it comes to compare 2 great performances. I personally prefer Volodos because he may not go at Yuja's speed but his dynamics and the musicality are much better and powerful. Yuja has superior technical ability but she sacrifises speed for powerful dynamics. Also, speed is not always the thing. Volodos speed is more than just perfect for my preference.
@JSerrato289
@JSerrato289 5 жыл бұрын
Speed is all the craze these days isn't it
@Pogouldangeliwitz
@Pogouldangeliwitz 10 ай бұрын
​@@JSerrato289speed and bikinis on the concert stage...
@michaelschefold3299
@michaelschefold3299 8 жыл бұрын
Volodos played it very very good but Yuja played it even better. She could play it faster, with more brillance. She seems to have less problems with this piece but lots of fun.
@BetterCallIlya
@BetterCallIlya 7 жыл бұрын
Volodos arranged this variation 😑
@mmoedge3465
@mmoedge3465 6 жыл бұрын
Play it faster is not play it better.
@peep3879
@peep3879 5 жыл бұрын
It seems she had less problems than Volodos but even she made more mistakes
@JSerrato289
@JSerrato289 5 жыл бұрын
I would prefer the way Volodos played it, with more power and energy. Just look at 3:24, that is beyond amazing. I haven't heard anyone play something like this except Volodos. Sure speed is nice, but you're sacrificing power accuracy, and overall grandness of the arrangement
@louiserestall3742
@louiserestall3742 8 жыл бұрын
...she made him look like an amateur (no offense).
@OverLordGoldDragon
@OverLordGoldDragon 8 жыл бұрын
+Louise Restall No offense, but you just made yourself look like an idiot.
@michaelschefold3299
@michaelschefold3299 7 жыл бұрын
Not like an amateur, but she playes in a higher league.
@nicholasfox9940
@nicholasfox9940 6 жыл бұрын
OverLordGoldDragon it's you who looks like an idiot
@Maciel01
@Maciel01 4 жыл бұрын
No offense but I have to ask, do you know anything about music?
@ianboard544
@ianboard544 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelschefold3299 If speed is all that appeals to you.
@oscarc332
@oscarc332 7 жыл бұрын
this was like salieri (volodos) vs Mozart (Yuja) in amadeus movie
@hallowseve4081
@hallowseve4081 6 жыл бұрын
Yuja Wang is way better.
@aidahansen3356
@aidahansen3356 4 жыл бұрын
Yuja Wang plays better than this guy.
@user-mk9yz2pq3c
@user-mk9yz2pq3c 9 күн бұрын
Техника должна подчиняться музыке. Иначе нет смысла. Китайцы, и многие современники перестали работать на богатством звуковой палитры, над обертонажем самого звука. Техника приходяща, а музыка вечна. Я всё это уже знаю и не раз наблюдал. Оба талантливы, но Володось шире, и внушительней. Хотя китаянка гибче технически. Вот и всё. Спасибо музыке.
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