9 BADLY Modelled Cars in Forza Horizon 5!

[@YuwanThayakaran]

*slight mistake* - Turns out the FD RX7 can be wingless from the factory 😬 They're very rare though and if you look up images of a stock RX7 on google, the vast majority do come with a little spoiler to apologies for that mistake!

[@jacobrev6567]

No need it Apologize

[@MaddyAndZoeProductions]

It's a small mistake. On my channel, Kilowatt Avenue, I make at least 1 mistake per video haha

[@XxrazorxX21]

Mhm I like it wingless then With a wing

[@Ken-zk9up]

Touring RX7 had no wing. R1 AND R2 had wings. Actually R models are actual more rare.

[@prds25386]

@@Ken-zk9up ig its just that there are more pics of the R models

[@blake8675]

The reason so many JDM cars are inaccurately modeled is because back in the 2000s, the import/tuner scene was really big in car culture. The early Forza Motorsport games made sure to have the car list feature those kinds of models heavily. However, they never actually remade any models over the years, just slightly updated the old models to support better textures and graphics. These car models are the exact same ones from the 2000s Motorsport titles. Keep in mind, both Gran Turismo and Need For Speed wiped their car lists and started with fresh, new laser-scanned models for their 8 gen console releases. Forza never did that at all, they just keep reusing SEVERELY outdated car models. While the oldest GT and NFS car models you see in their recent titles can be up to 7-8 years old, Forza's oldest models can be up 18+ years. No, I'm not joking.

[@gabrielsobrosa]

Yes, correct. I just add the only older car they remodelled was the first gen NSX in FH2. And lost all customization

[@Z4ZR]

I ain’t reading all that

[@caprise-music6722]

@@Z4ZR you’re not much of a reader are you

[@uhm175]

@@caprise-music6722 TL;DR sorry mate

[@yahyanawaz420]

You're telling me that some car models are older than 75% of Forza Horizon 5's playerbase?

[@gabrielsobrosa]

The Silvia, R32 Skyline, R34 Skyline, R32 Golf, Trueno, and really all the older JDMs needs a newer and scanned models

[@LG4761]

I wish these models will be update in Forza Motorsport 2023.

[@Dropthetop36]

Golf’s are not jdm their German

[@beegxxc9832]

@@Dropthetop36 yeah but it counts as one of worst models in the game. It looks so clunky I just skip playing this car.

[@dp12480]

the rx7 actually does come without the wing

[@xa-1248]

For real

[@JuliasChoices]

Plus the spirit R has that wing option 😂

[@Honda_Man_Sam]

With the EP3, what’s even more wrong is that despite having the prefacelift front end, it has facelift rear lights and the seats are wrong too. In game it has plain black recaros but the civics in real life that had recaros came with red/black or just plain red.

[@mattyg267]

I'm confused... the game has both the face-lift front and rear lights which is correct and the black recaros you could special order...

[@Honda_Man_Sam]

@@mattyg267 no, In game it has the pre facelift front despite it being a ‘2004’ car which was facelifted. For the seats, most didn’t have recaros but the premier edition ep3 (I own one) came with red/black recaros and the Jdm ep3 had all red. No ep3 ever came with plain black recaro seats. Hope that clears it up.

[@jermeyscott5998]

If your wondering why the Kenwood is removed from horizon 4-5 is because they asked for licencing money being displayed in the game and turn 10 didn't want to spend money on something so few will ever pay attention too, so can blame the Kenwood for being a little greedy for a tiny name in a compartment that'd only available forzavista

[@fontheking5]

Always felt ( for a long time ) that the 2002 Ferrari 575 M Maranello was poorly modelled, the proportions just looks weird and off in a strange way, guess it's an old model that has been reused in several Forza games, like many other cars in Forza sadly

[@audi-71830]

boy oh boy do I have news for you, I checked it for myself and not a single part of the body in Forza is even close to the real 575M

[@matthewlange8616]

That wheel design was available on the 2015 Jaguar F Type R and it is dished like that, it just does not seem to have been a very popular choice.

[@kdmscarlett2012]

Thankyou ^

[@FjordIsntAGamer]

Fun fact, the RX-7 came wingless in 1993, but it was weaker then the winged version. The wingless version had 246 bhp. Anyways hope this helps with all the RX-7 issues, also idk the name of those versions

[@AcHiker]

Forza did good on most cars, but they had a few cars did not get the same treatment which is kinda disappointing

[@kotarojujo2737]

they good for newer supercar

[@daveizdebski]

The 2020 GT500 uses the 2015-17 taillights instead of the 2018-2023 taillights like it does irl

[@Spud_Farmer]

I can smell the s15 coming from a mile away

[@rodsk8dude731]

The other thing about the McLaren F1 is that I'm pretty sure that spoiler is an air-brake, and not used for aerodynamics. It's active aero apparently is the underbody airflow. I try looking up "McLaren F1 active aero spoiler", but nothing seems to suggest it is used for that. In Gran Turismo it is just used as an air brake I believe.

[@lous2187]

The Lamborghini Reventon, Ferrari FXXK Evo and 2005 Ferrari FXX has the same problem as the Turbo S, the aero panels don't move

[@gabrielmeza4780]

you actually missed the Ferrari 360 CS, on the back of the car you can clearly see the rear body lines are made up of like 3 polygons, I thought my console was so old that it couldn't even render cars correctly until I saw it too in one of your videos lmao, I think it happened in older models of the car from previous games

[@deandoeslife]

I also hate that the digital instruments in the interiors have the incorrect fonts. A tiny but immersion breaking detail.

[@Jakeboyy199]

‘Hello, it is I’ One of the most iconic Forza KZbin intros ever.

[@r32juan]

Some of these aren't even "badly" modeled, just minor errors

[@dariopiovani5077]

EP3 also has either a shifted model to one side or different wheel spacing left to right - look at the fitment on both sides and you'll see it. The 1940 Ford Deluxe also has this issue, most noticeable if you install race/drift suspension since the car sits very high in stock form.

[@MattAutoMotive]

Yeah but top of the spec RX-7 comes wingless it's a bit like a Subaru Impreza except the other way round you can get a Subaru Impreza wingless but the top of the spec Impreza WRX STi comes with a wing see the difference. I have a model kit of this RX-7 and it's not top spec

[@assettocorsahotlaps3730]

Same, I also built a model kit of the rx-7. I suppose, you built the tamiya, right?

[@MattAutoMotive]

@@assettocorsahotlaps3730 yeah

[@assettocorsahotlaps3730]

@@MattAutoMotive same here. it is even in one of my videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX-vipyGpshpmdU

[@olavofernandes7286]

I think the top spec rx7 came with the wing only the lower trim came without it

[@fastcashtj]

@@olavofernandes7286 yee wing, side pods, front lip were factory options

[@FiftyCharacters]

For the mclaren f1, in horizon 3 the kenwood logo did appear on the F1 however kenwood pulled their licensing with forza during horizon 4’s development and they haven’t been back since,

[@Travis-guy-247]

With the RX-7, it's not the fact it doesn't have a wing (that did actually come stock on the base model, like you've corrected in the pinned comment), but the general shape is just a little off. In both the 1997 one and the Spirit R, the modelling of the panels and proportions just aren't quite there. I can't really pick out specifics, except maybe the fron bumper vents on the Spirit R. Just the overall shape of both models is wrong. I think the most accurate FD model on any game to this day has to be on Midnight Club Los Angeles. Also, about the Civic Type R: The red badge might be inaccurate, but I think we can let them off with the bumper. When a manufacturer changes a car model in a certain year, it's usually some time through the year (e.g. April). This means that any models from before April that year won't have been affected by the changes, which is how you end up with pre-facelift 2004 models.

[@NeedForSpeed.2004]

Ford F-450 DRW: Depending on which tire compound you choose, sometimes the rear wheels are displayed accurately as double rear wheels, or they will merge into one really wide rear wheel. Idk why

[@spacedoutcowboy5211]

Duallys can actually have one bigass wheel in the rear.

[@NeedForSpeed.2004]

@@spacedoutcowboy5211 true

[@spacedoutcowboy5211]

@@NeedForSpeed.2004 once put a 22.5 in tire on a supersingle dually. Pain in the ass it was

[@ds_lyst05]

What was even worse with the mx5 was the fact that the door handles wer mix matched, one was chrome as it should be stock and one was body colored lol

[@xa-1248]

The Splitter on the 991 Turbo was actually active in FH2 and Motorsport

[@tatacraft791]

Man i would love if you did a playthrough series of all the forza horizon games, then edit them like these videos and it would be super fun to watch.

[@ForzaMonkey]

for the Mclaren F1, there was probably a licensing issue with Kenwood (I'm making the wild assumption that any brand pictured in-game needs to give the game devs licensing to the name).

[@Lewis_Treff97]

Surprised there's no mention of the mk4 golf R32. Other than from the front, the shape is all out of proportion and the rear wheel isn't even centred to the wheel arch 😂

[@maxwellwitharifle]

Pause at 5:30 "no type R badges" as if there isnt one right next to the license plate on the right💀💀💀

[@MisticoCaristico]

Golf R32 is very bad too

[@JohnTezlaNFS]

They aint built diffferent, they built incorrectly

[@caprise-music6722]

The so called “1994” Ferrari 355 is wrong in FH5. It should have a proper manual gearbox, but actually in the game it’s the F1 355 with the flappy paddles. Honestly, the manual 355 is one of my favorite cars ever. And it ruins it for me that it’s the sloppy paddle version. It’s not even the right year for the flappy pedizle

[@DiegoRamos-rz1ks]

I really hope Maverick Games could try to get the cars exactly like there real life models. I’m not too sure about Horizon because there are rumors that Lego might be the next expansion since the Motorsport reboot sort of placed Lego cars around the devs workspaces. I’m worried about the future of this franchise and it won’t be the same.

[@Derek21701]

Maverick? You do know that it isn't known whether they are making a open world car game or that Maverick didn't replace Playground at all?

[@crimsonlycaondc143c6]

the s14 kouki is pretty strange in modeling. i'd say it doesn't really look like an s14. it's not as round and damn..that front end

[@TheRealChainNinja]

Honestly, I don’t really pay attention to these minor errors on the cars mentioned here because in the end, I get them modified. But kudos for spotting these errors though.

[@olavofernandes7286]

Even though you costomise their body parts are off even the aftermarket kits, wheel brand etc

[@TheRealChainNinja]

@@olavofernandes7286 Yeah, that’s true. It’s been like that ever since but it’s pretty much to the point where I already got used to it, so for me, it’s not a big deal.

[@redkalifornia8580]

The rear on the monaro model looks WAY too fat compared to real life, it’s sad how badly proportional the model is, but the 2006 gto from Forza Motorsport 4 was by far a much better model but they discontinued it and went along with this same old model again

[@Nxrxn23]

Guy : Talks about how a CD changer in a car is inaccurate No one : Guy : Proceeds to modify the car till its unrecognisable

[@jumanji7038]

The E36 is truly the worst offender, the forums worked out they’d used an E36 soft top for the scan, and then just made it into a coupe, and the shape of the roof is so wrong 😂 MK4 R32 is a joke as well, it’s so square 😂

[@iknowwhatthedogdoing8025]

Forza : * Don't add Aero active 911 turbo S splitter because the player won't be looking at it since we spend most of the game looking at the rear of the car * This dude : *THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE!*

[@oldjagfan]

I’ve noticed the GT86 and BRZ has a normal antenna rather than a shark fin looking one that they do in real life.

[@aryosismail4471]

Another thing is that it says 3.6l on Jeep Wrangler engine displacement although when you open the hood in forzavista it says 3.8l.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Only the wing on the RX7? put a RX7 sideview image and compare it with the Forza RX7... the modeling its awfull in Forza, not only details but the entire shape of cars

[@bmxboxter]

it’s honestly ridiculous how many things are messed up. With how big Microsoft is and with Forza being their biggest racing franchise, you think they’d care a bit more.

[@swiftblade886]

Seeing forza horizon 4 again in so long brings back memories

[@Moatiz]

Next video should be badly modeled rims, the TE37's being the worst offender

[@olavofernandes7286]

And other wheel brand

[@TheMiaExperience]

JDM cars I can give a crap less about but the fact that they messed up the Jaguar is messed up 💀

[@Nebulasecura]

Seems like they nailed the old school classics.

[@claudioparedesz5381]

also the front end of the AE 86, the MASSIVE headlight caps on the 22b Sti, the front wheel localization on the MK4 Golf GTI, and so many more probabbly

[@Gliese710_]

The 22b just has bigger fog lights than the non-22b

[@olavofernandes7286]

@@Gliese710_ irl it doe not even gran turismo 7 version is better than forza

[@factoryrider9537]

One thing I noticed a long time ago, a lot of the cars in forza have the wrong proportions, like they're too wide, high, etc. If you ever wonder why a car in forza just feels off to its real counterpart, thats the reason

[@olavofernandes7286]

Even the ae86 in forza the body parts , exhaust etc are way off

[@DARKWoLF52297]

Can’t forget the 2019 370z nismo. No 370z from 2019 come with clear headlights. They are blacked out lol

[@calebplaysgamesofficial]

The 2016 type r civic is actually a 2015 too. Somethings up with these mixed up names

[@MichaelReviews441]

i really hate how they did the headlights for the r32

[@uhm175]

The rear also looks wrong, the car overall feels wider than it's IRL counterpart Sad

[@SCREAMILLUSION]

The Vauxhall Monaro in Australia is actually a HSV not the normal CV8 Monaro you showed that the GTO is also based on and that's based on our 2000s Commodore, the vt and vx respectively. Which is where it gets it's shape and light shapes from, kind of.

[@audi-71830]

make more videos like this except serious and with actual dimension comparisons, forza players need to see this game isn't perfect

[@rensarahazryan9902]

-Mclaren 720s and 765lt unrealistic front bumper and headlights frame/ panda eye idk what it called -Lamborghini huracan evo wrong dashboard/head unit they use old huracan dashboard and put the lcd

[@wakilrahman1962]

This video will be a banger as always

[@henrystephens1683]

I still think it’s ridiculous that out of all cars in the game we can’t experience all of the Miata’s with top down driving

[@jumanji7038]

I know right! There was a topless ‘89 Miata in FM7!

[@Mik3_F]

Also SLK55, S2000 and Toyota Supra

[@Vioral]

seeing u play fh4 reminded me how good looking the map/environment was compared to fh5

[@rileyvosper411]

Fh5 looks better? Fh4 does look good tho.

[@Jacadac]

The branding for Aussie cars in Forza is very weird I find, especially Holdens. While Holden do have their own brand in the Forza games, maybe due to weird GM licencing, the VE Commodore is still listed as a Pontiac and the Monaro is still a Vauxhall, something I thought would be fixed in Horizon 3 but nope. And Aussie/Euro Ford's are listed as American made, so I guess the Country origin of a car is only related to the Manufacturer origin itself in Forza, and not to the specific car. Another little discrepancy as well is that Holden's performance brand, HSV, is it's own separate manufacturer in the games, but aussie Ford's performance brand, FPV, is lumped into the Ford manufacturer in-game

[@slideways8022]

I reckon Forza are too lazy to remodel Holden badges and bumpers for the commodore. The monaro should probably just be put under Holden by now though I’d have thought, but guess Forza be forza

[@insid3493]

A lot of games get the r32 wrong for some reason

[@darraghmckenna9127]

The W212 on Forza is a bit inaccurate with the side profile DLO.

[@yssnfilms]

a widebody mopar would be cool

[@ZeroThug7]

I don't like the rim animation of the Lamborghini Sian, the Mclaren 765lt and the Lamborghini svj. The standard rims looking so nice, but when you drive they're flat. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@clarksonoceallachain8536]

A smoll addition Warthog doesn't have quad steer

[@drifthunters...3895]

We sometimes forget tht forza horizon is just an arcade game and isn't meant to be all realistic,we should be great full really.

[@datdatonabeat3252]

Oh no the Vaxhaull Monaro is a disaster LOL the entire car is very inaccurate. I'm surprised you didn't point out how tall the rear bumper is and how small the taillights are from the beginning. The roof is too tall, the windows are too wide, the front bumper grilles and such are not the right shape, the side profile is too flat. The entire model should be scraped and redone.

[@SamuelSantos_]

The Mario Kart intro music 🤌🏼💯

[@VXAkane]

The R34 definitely needs a remodel, the engine’s bigger than the fucking car

[@classymelon2367]

Are we gonna talk about the asymmetry on the back of the McLaren Speedtail? It bugs the hell out of me

[@cperkac4084]

This civic type r on one side has wheels deeper than on the other side...

[@AV20242]

Great video Yuwan.

[@Ayu_crafts2010]

🎉

[@Midnight_Rex]

if they are so BADLY Modelled because of minor issues, model one yourself to see how easy it is

[@Stoofast]

Very good 👌🏽

[@SeanDJ_]

I'm really hoping the new Forza Motorsport solves allot of issues. I've played Forza since Motorsport 1 I remember going to Asda after DJn at 3am in the morning to get horizon 1 😂😂 But if our answers for this any many more don't get answered that's enough for me

[@TheRageLivesOn]

they’ve literally been using the rx7 without a wing since forza motorsport 1…

[@kendricksamuels943]

the spirit r has the stock rx7 wing in the customization

[@olavofernandes7286]

He meant the pre face lift rx7

[@kendricksamuels943]

@@olavofernandes7286 yeah i know, but i was suggesting that it should be relatively easy to fix since it’s already in the game

[@olavofernandes7286]

@@kendricksamuels943 the one in the game is pooerley modeled

[@AboynamedJason_]

Poor guy couldn't get the likes he wanted even after 2 weeks

[@Cooperyan95]

Forza Motorsport 8 Nissan Silvia S15 from FM1 (2005), but in 4K 60 FPS now

[@jacobrev6567]

The Mazda MX5 in FH5 looks so bad there car modeling doesn’t not accurate compared in real life vs in the actual game

[@Lua_iqova]

2:55 you realize you can go to the advance paint option on wheels and do it yourself, right?

[@Senk0tatsu]

most sane forza player

[@bobman36]

One of the skylines splitters are ment to be active, it’s not

[@hamgigi5513]

i m still annoyed about the way too boxy rear end of the Golf MK4. Can you talk about that?

[@stevereynolds821]

As much as I appreciate any awareness to forza model faults, these little things that are slightly different don't even come close to the major body distortion of the '69 Camaro, '70 Chevelle, '70 Challenger, etc. that have been "basically" the same models since FM1 just like the S15. Go to internet game cars database for proof! I think its time we push/protest for new models of the F'd up ones already in the game!!

[@eizlaniskandar7946]

You forgot Mclaren Senna, the car suppose to be RHD considering the car spec itself most notably the exhaust is based on UK version of Mclaren Senna

[@rensarahazryan9902]

Don’t forget 720s and 765lt weird proportion on the headlights

[@KurumaDesigns]

Wow that monaro is baaad

[@abdullahmoheed7814]

Bro why does he always complain about stuff, when he can enjoy the game like AR12 and Jackultragaming

[@LilSpazo99]

The type r has the badge

[@Mad_Medz]

Idk why they didnt just give us the option to adjust concavity for wheels 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ they do everything but add features we mostly want

[@uhm175]

Easy for you to say that

[@autonation_photography153]

do u know how hard that would be to do to ALL rims and cars

[@Mad_Medz]

@@autonation_photography153 not hard at all lol

[@autonation_photography153]

and how do you know that

[@Mad_Medz]

@@autonation_photography153 because they've put more effort into useless shit

[@taco616sr6]

Nissan Silvia Spec-R moment

[@disracenboi336]

GT7 car models…are porn, pure porn, I just did VR dealer showroom…and Jesus christ. I have no words.

[@tnc7399]

They probably aren't reused models at all. It is cheaper and makes more sense importing very similar models than having to do the 400+ cars

[@Scigh-on]

The front of the supra is unsmoothed.

[@Scigh-on]

Mk5

[@nikifalcon]

You not even going to mention all the Silvia's? Like Every one of them?

[@3xteban]

The 944 was badly modeled, proportions are completely off the taillights are massive in the rear, the engine bay it's missing a lot of stuff its not right at all

[@kdmscarlett2012]

They lost the copyrights to kenwood

[@jump23kid]

I hope the new people getting hired to work on forza are people that actually like cars because it feels like the devs have no interest in cars at all.

[@S.8uzi]

Idk y is yuwan is not that famous

[@nyrak5570]

Sorry but i never seen something that really matter to be here, most of them aren't modeling issues, just programming or texturing saving, so if we're relating to textures you can go check subaru wrx 2015 lights from Forza Horizon 4 and Toyota Supra innacurate Dashboard.

[@arandominternetperson4462]

8:08 yeah let's ignore that the car looks like a blob and talk about the headlights 😫. No seriously friggin' Need for Speed Underground 2 from 2004 had better proportions on it's GTO. Less polygons sure, BUT STILL BETTER PROPORTIONS.