Zach Wilson Analysis, Part 4: What am I Missing?

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[@daltonsteinkamp384]

Wow coming back on this 2 years later, this analysis was dead on. He has been this exact qb in the NFL and all of those "should have been interceptions" have become real ones.

[@crackmeup6784]

Whoever lands in San Francisco will hit the jackpot. Not only is it a QB friendly system, but their team is ready and the QB likely won’t be rushed into it. I personally think any of the top 5 would really succeed there.

[@atomic_bear]

Yeah, I think so long as Mac Jones isn't the pick, whoever goes there, especially if they have 1 year with Jimmy G, will be perfectly positioned to win, and win lots

[@nostalgiajunkie]

What exactly does “qb friendly” mean here? I understand that there’s an ignorant assumption somewhere in there but I wanna know why you think that

[@brandonl2555]

Mac Jones at 3 is 1000% an overreach. The others though...I think any of them could be a fit.

[@crackmeup6784]

Nostalgia Junkie Thanks for being so pleasant- I’m sure everyone enjoys that! But QB friendly in terms of using bootlegs and getting the ball out quickly generally to quicker reads in more of a west coast and zone running game hybrid offense built around their physicality. That’s what I’m referring to. Have an awesome day and I hope things get better for you.

[@nostalgiajunkie]

@@crackmeup6784 lol worked out for Goff, just throw any old high prospect in a new wave west coast offense, it’ll work out great! Sarcasm aside, I agree that the strategical position the niners are in rn is absolutely ideal for a QB, getting to ride jimmys coattails in the offense during his last dance starting. Hopefully he’s healthy, but I think it’s a bit of an overstatement to call the offense a “qb friendly” system. Having watched all their games the last two seasons, I’m excited to hopefully see their receiving core at full steam and healthy for the first time, aside from the tail end of 2019 when they traded up for sanders, kittle was the only consistent weapon on the team, so many of Jimmy’s interceptions came from dropped and receivers tipping the ball up. Here’s to hoping they draft someone who can throw off platform and execute complex play actions and pick up pre snap reads, but hey what team doesn’t look for that

[@ajithmayya4368]

Who ever takes him should use the approach Andy Reid used with Mahomes. Train him to do as instructed for 2.5-3 secs before going offscript. He can do ridiculous stuff from broken plays but that shouldn't be the primary part of his game.

[@glockroach5500]

Best thing Reid did was let Mahomes sit behind Smith for a year to learn

[@puckutubesux7356]

@@glockroach5500 Learn what? Mahomes couldn't learn how to read a Dr. Seuss book. He's the dumbest player in NFL history.

[@whoopsie890]

@@puckutubesux7356 Lol wut?

[@jahvedcole]

@@whoopsie890 i wouldn’t say it how that guy said it, but mahomes admitted he wasn’t really reading defenses at all for that first year

[@bigbankbreeze2847]

Yea but the things is they are already saying he’s mahomes and Rodgers he will be thrown to the fire and not develop ppl forget mahomes and Rodgers sat begind good QBs when they prematurely call Wilson the next of them

[@bpdub21]

As a BYU fan that watched every game of Zach's career I can tell you that he definitely has a tendency toward playing hero ball. He would fit well with Bruce Arians because he will always take a deep pass over a short ball. I think when he throws the double teamed post it seems to me like when the over gets slammed by the umpire he immediately come off of that route and throws the deep ball.

[@shibbity08]

The defender wasn’t looking back. 33TD 3INT, is not an accident, the guy is reading a defender and taking advantage. Y’all act like he is just putting the ball up and praying.

[@itisnottaken4444]

@@shibbity08 I don't think he's saying his stats don't matter. But at the next level, throwing those 5050 balls against a corner like Sherman, Gilmore, or Alexander will get him in trouble. He just has to work on taking what the defense gives him better.

[@shibbity08]

@@itisnottaken4444 I get it, but those times he threw the ball his receiver had an advantage. I admit that first go rout was risky, 5050 ball you just hope your receiver has better hands or at least knocks it down. The other times he caught the DB out of position and not looking back for the ball so he took advantage, good QB’s in the league do the same thing, either you get a big catch or a penalty. I mention the stat because with 33/3 td/int ratio tells me he is seeing something in the D he likes, not just throwing up junk passes.

[@MNZGamin]

@@itisnottaken4444 True, but in college he knows he’s not going against any CBs in the same stratosphere of those better NFL guys. His high end comp would be Mahomes who knew in the NFL he can’t do the same things to some corners all the time

[@antwisindustries]

I’m not saying he’s better than Zach or vice versa, but Drew Lock has had the same issue so far in the league. Always tries to make the big throw and play hero ball and he makes a tonne of turnovers because you can’t get away with it in the NFL.

[@ShihanBarbee]

Damn.. Can you be a scout for the Jets please? Damn this is so on point, not sure why he's a number 2 pick.

[@colestretch6449]

‘Get to the end zone bro, or don’t come back to the huddle’ haha love it.

[@shanerust]

You aren’t missing anything. I’ve been watching your QB school the last year or so and I absolutely love it because I don’t need to watch anyone else anymore. I know exactly where I’m going to watch a film breakdown. I’ve learned a lot from you too. I wish you were the QB coach for the Bears JT. I share your page wit all my buddies!

[@dreate780]

Bears got one if the top 2 quarterbacks in this draft... The doubters will see.

[@markj1211]

Would love to hear your qb rankings on this years class...Your Mac Jones analysis was insightful. His ability to go thru his reads seems to be the best in this years class.

[@craigcollins6904]

Jones' ability to go through his reads may be better than Wilson and the best in the class, but when he has the weakest arm in the draft class and is practically immobile, what good is it. I wouldn't take him.

[@manton5722]

Very true - he’s just not the most talented... but then again.. neither was Brady 🤔

[@markj1211]

@@manton5722 I think we are hitting on the exact disconect between physical and mental talent. If you cannot thow to an imaginary shoebox sized window BEFORE your dude even makes his break, then all the arm talent in the world will not make a difference. Just look at this list...busts and dissapointment everywhere. Most of them with great physical tools coming out... www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/list/ranking-every-nfl-quarterback-drafted-first-round-since-2000/16obdsowna7kk1gnhl9iqrp2pg

[@Don-md6wn]

@@craigcollins6904 Incredibly stupid take. Jones was the best in the NCAA on down the field throws and the "practically immobile" is complete horseshit. He moves around the pocket extremely well and he ran a 4.75 40 on his pro day.

[@craigcollins6904]

@@Don-md6wn You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how ignorant, blind, and misguided it is. If you knew anything about football, you'd know I'm right. He had the best talent at the collegiate level around him and that made him look better than he is. We'll see how well he does in the NFL with his lack of elusiveness and weakest arm of the top 6-7 QBs. He is extremely accurate and makes good decisions. I'll give him that.

[@code.2972]

"you can take a step to the right and punt it to him"😂😂💀💀

[@rickmason6157]

Wow you were spot on with your analysis!

[@Ubermentsh]

Right now if I'm a quarterback needy team. I'm going over Sam Darnold with a fine tooth comb. Darnold has a lot of meat left on the bone. And got a real bad shake in New Jersey. Broncos, Panthers and Steelers hopefully thinking the same way. I believe any one of those three teams could change the trajectory of this young man's career✌️😉👍

[@vinnyb3978]

Darnold is just a broken QB right now. His mechanics are bad. He misses open guys (by not seeing them and and physically missing throws). He doesn't read the field well. Honestly he's at his best when a play breaks down and he makes a great play and you go wow this guy has talent. And he does. But he just has no confidence and throws way too many picks. He's more of a project then Wilson or Fields right now. He needs great coaching.

[@craigcollins6904]

I agree that it's possible that Darnold's career can be resurrected, but at a minimum, I think he needs a change of scenery and needs to sit for a year. If he doesn't fix his footwork, it won't matter where he goes or who his coach is. He also needs to learn to read Ds and make sound decisions. If he can't do that, he'll be yet another JAG backup, or out of the league within a few years.

[@Ubermentsh]

@MClayton 25 Sam was pretty much the only peanut in the turd known as the New Jersey Jets organization. Don't even know what damn State they play in. And call it a hunch, but Sam can play.I personally feel I have seen enough. I would put my neck on the block. If I can't get Trevor Lawrence I'd want Sam.✌️🤓👍

[@411bvRGiskard]

Love the Jets Org. 😒. “Hey, now that we’ve broken another QB, let’s draft OL after we kick him to the curb.”

[@MoMoMyPup10]

@@vinnyb3978 Could be. It's hard to say. Just because it looks it doesn't mean it's the case though. No run game, no pass pro, no WR's to break down D's, bad penalties at critical times, 3rd and long all day, bad coaching/terrible system, and the weight of the whole franchise on a 23 year old's shoulders - are we surprised that he's pressing more and more and making mistakes? Not to mention an injury or illness each year to derail any possible consistency or momentum. I don't think any QB would've shined in that mess.

[@jackbernier3235]

"I'm not familiar with that type of miss..." absolute savagery

[@cw3982]

“Don’t come back to the huddle” 😂

[@flowthrupranayama]

Drafting players is just pulling a vision out of a context through which you must filter out the noise. 1. Wilson didn't select his schedule, so that is ZERO KNOCK on him. Those who say otherwise can debate me. 2. He threw the screen pass JT mentioned 0.5 secs too early (lineman about to deflect, so no longer). Seems like Wilson hurried throw (perhaps hand gripped ball too angled). This play has less weight than the pro day throws, IMO. 3. 8:00, like many other plays we see at BYU, is a case of good defensive look (receivers not open, except for a tiny window) and 4. others where Wilson fits a ball in that he should have run with. When he does, it is a strike. OK, COLLEGE players ALWAYS play like they are 20 years old. Even Rodgers. When I rank variables for scout (which I have a decent record doing), the stuff on this video just doesn't stick out as important. When you see Wilson go through reads, he is consistently faster than all QB's in this draft. That counts for more than JT is giving credit, because Fields is quite poor in the same area that JT is hitting in this video.

[@goldblood2155]

📢 WE WANT YOUR QB RANKINGS!!

[@arthurbarbosa5825]

Yes! A video with Jt explaining his rankings and showing clips would be amazing

[@Elan8chz]

Go by his analysis Lawrence, Jones, Wilson, Fields, Mond, Lance

[@BillMoritz]

I do too but if I was him I wouldn't want to release a ranking. There are so many variables to success you always look like you don't know what your talking about.

[@JPaw-ud5pk]

DESPERATELY!!!

[@zaypierson6255]

Yes Ill dang near pay for his rankings at this point

[@cw3982]

I would watch the 2019 USC tape, the 2020 LA Tech tape, the 2019 Western Michigan tape, and the 2021 UCF tape for some of his best games.

[@Brandon4EK]

The UCF tape is legitimately worthless with how many players opted out of that game.

[@kylecornett5222]

@@Brandon4EK For the skill players and difficulty sure it is worhless. He either throws accurately or doesn't regardless of the defense though

[@rmichels05]

@@Brandon4EK even with the opt outs and stuff they had a more talented defense than most teams he faced

[@The_Handsom_Italian]

The tape isn't about the competition it's about his style accuracy ect what he's good at what he's not good at and his consistency.

[@Welcome2TheOhioState]

@@rmichels05 this could be true and it would still be sad to say this because that means he played absolutely nobody.

[@CadChamberlain]

He reminds me so much of Carson Wentz, the good and the bad.

[@tyrodtaylor4405]

Yeah Bro, Kinda

[@pschultz3411]

1:08 “it’s a jump ball too. In addition to being a jump ball” 😂 JT - love the channel. You and Simms are these awesome QB minds that contextualize film and provide nice commentary for QB play. Some feedback though. Your opinions and lack of awareness of double standards shine through A LOT. I’ve heard you comment about #5 a lot, almost to say that you might believe his play is partially the reason for Wilson’s great play. Why doesn’t Fields or Lawrence get the same treatment with their 5-star weapons, great offensive lines, easy scheme, etc. I think Fields and Lawrence are studs but this is where Simms separates himself from you. He is able to view QB skills and make accurate projections of their play in the NFL. All love on this too, it’s exciting to know that so many people are diving deeper into the game because of you. Not sure if you’re able to, but I would love a KZbin collaboration with you, Simms, maybe Brett Kollman? Can’t stand ESPN or NFL Network. Their analysis is shallow and flimsy. Thanks!

[@seth8056]

He still has a lot of growing to do, but when he flashes, it’s special. That’s the big thing for me. The potential is def there, he just needs the right coaching to help him grow.

[@975warman]

Definitely. I can draw an example from Mitchell, not exactly the same players but the potential factor was there. Got yo get good coaching to develop the Quarterback to get him to full potential.

[@nyjets2428]

He didn’t get it

[@lukelazarczyk9350]

I think he's straight special. A few misreads do happen but they happen for all. He's seems to get slightly overconfident but I don't have much of a fear for that. His ability is off the charts and will only grow. Wilson is legit to me

[@jaytheactivist8520]

His ability is a bit overrated too, you shouldn’t just ignore the film lol

[@nateward7120]

Agreed. Although, I want to give him credit for being this good *most* of the time given that he has less experience than some of the other guys. I’m more excited by the possibility that he can grow to be consistently even better than he has been. I’d take a chance on him. #GoNiners

[@jarret45]

Then you would be wrong, my guy.

[@Taj-cs3ut]

@@jaytheactivist8520 ya for a guy whos arm is supposed to be great he sure underthrows alot on deep passes

[@Cedtrevg]

Good call

[@Mike-ge7pe]

Thanks again JT for the awesome film review. For me, the thing is, he makes some of the same mistakes as Darnold, but will do so for significantly less money and with seemingly fewer issues to correct. He also lengthens the leash for the coach and GM. As a fan, I also wouldn’t be upset if the Jets traded down to build depth across the whole roster, but his upside is difficult to ignore and it is risky to pass on that when the rest of the roster is ascending and could be ready to compete in his second or third year in the league. I’m just praying that whatever choice Douglas and Saleh make, it’s the right one. Their process seems much more professional and sound than anything the Jets have had in a long, long time. Seeing what you’ve shown here is enlightening

[@horatiohornblower3757]

18:48 When he hits the bottom of his drop, look where #2 is as the colour is flashing him in the face. If he sees him in that split second, he looks double covered. I can definitely see how he should avoid, come up in the pocket and hit 2 for a big first down, but to be fair, how many QB's in the NFL are making that read with an unknown of who's got off their blocks properly right behind you. I don't know. It's definitely a good play to look at and try and make a determination on, especially to see if he improves on it later in the year.

[@klipzgod1503]

And that’s why ur not a qb because you can tell the lb is not dropping back

[@horatiohornblower3757]

@@klipzgod1503 That's fair, but from the time he hits his drop, he's flashed in his face with a free rusher, avoids and hits his checkdown. While he doesn't make the eye popping amazing throw in this individual situation, not a whole lot of QB's are going to be able to avoid the rush like that and at the same time make the perfect read. Not to mention, he comes more open only due to his threat to run there and until after he avoids the rush and starts moving forward, the LB is dropping back. He only gets more open when it's paused because he's already hitting his checkdown so the player is starting to move towards the play. He didn't make the play, but I don't see it as a lowlight by any means.

[@graecullen1584]

This aged well.

[@TheQBSchool]

most do

[@AnthonyMcNeil]

I'm watching this video after your most recent one on Wilson and wow, the film doesn't lie. You guys are great at breaking this stuff down and showing how his mistakes will be (and are) troublesome at the next level.

[@utahmortgageandloan]

I think the slant to 5 for the sidearm touchdown he was drawing the safety down at the 11:15 play. The inside look to the TE draws the safety down or he might have been there to knock out 5. I remember watching some of Texas Tech with the Goat and he had some bad reads mixed in with the potential. So I think they see growth from a 21 yr old kid.

[@shughes871]

If that’s the case, he should have eyed the TE from the snap, knowing he’s trying to manipulate that defender so he can throw to #5

[@Steve_643]

I think Wilson is benefiting from everybody wanting to see another Patrick Mahomes. Everybody wants to see their QB making plays shooting from the hip but there’s a reason we have never seen anything like Mahomes. Wilson might be great but there’s nothing I’ve seen that guarantees he’s gonna be a great QB. The odds are against him to be honest!!!!!

[@chazmaz2781]

Ugh what are you doing to me? They’re going to pick him. So now I’m in “convince myself he’s the right guy” mode now.

[@mayorart1]

Reminds me of Garropolo misreads. Asking for interceptions.

[@ggoldhagen24]

Hey JT, I think 11:11 is actually a super smart play, just unconventional. Sees the safety cheating toward sit route pre-snap, so after he checks and sees slant coming open he fakes toward sit to get safety to bite down. Then, trust receiver to stay open, make throw to slant. 5-7 yard play turns into a 15 yard one. Great breakdown though.

[@MoMoMyPup10]

I'm also wondering if the lane to throw @11:00 isn't quite there yet and he needed to wait a split longer for the window to open?

[@familyman600]

Oh my god...as a JET Fan i want to cry watching this how did our gm, scouts, and coaches miss all these RED FLAGS

[@df3575]

Would love to listen to you and Simms watch QB tape together. Informed, and at times conflicting perspectives are really interesting.

[@thekingtruthshow]

Sorry but Simms is not in the same league, based on most I’ve seen Simms is simply a QB who is an entertainment token. JT breaks it down and is typically far more accurate. Simms said Tannehill was going to win a super bowl in Miami... and has been wrong almost every time. I work with QBs too and I know JT is classy so he won’t say it.. but their not mentally the same sorry not sorry

[@df3575]

@@thekingtruthshow yeah....i can tell you don't actually listen to Simms at all.

[@davidndungu4874]

@@thekingtruthshow Simms nailed it on Mahomes and Herbert though. And he also nailed it last year by saying people were underrating Justin Jefferson. He does get it right more than he gets wrong

[@ericsnyder5427]

Nope. Couldn't think of watching snarky Simms Jr. interruptions of JT's analysis. Would be like listening to Collingsworth commentary during a game. Ick

[@df3575]

@@ericsnyder5427 🤦🏿‍♂️ Jesus. Ok, I can see where this is going. Should be no surprise to me....the internet. Nonsense.

[@a.spellman5481]

People see glimpses of Mahomes and Rodgers with his arm and ability to make things happen when a play breaks down. However, I think he misses too many reads for me to consider him a top 5 pick/day one starter. I busted out laughing at the "he could punt it to him" on the flea flicker, and it's true. Mahomes and Rodgers let the plays develop and read it before improvising. He is too quick to improvise and has to improve staying within the structure of the offense when time allows.

[@a.spellman5481]

Also, Houston's DBs coach should hide this video cause there were so many picks and PBUs left out there. He won't be on the board that late, but somewhere like Tampa would be a good first round pick for him. Let him sit behind a veteran for a year or two and then take over when Brady retires just like Mahomes and Rodgers did. Brady is the opposite of improv and Wilson could learn from him on how to stay within the offense a little more and make NFL reads. I think it's a huge risk asking him to be a day one starter on a bad team because he's going to throw a lot of 50/50 balls and miss some plays as well.

[@jasonkhoury7814]

Teams probably like the accuracy, anticipation, and arm angles so much that they think the football IQ stuff will come over time if he's willing to learn.

[@rubinturner8233]

It's not that simple. Everyone said the same thing about Baker, Josh Rosen, Johnny Manziel ooh ooh the arm angles ...man, QB in the NFL is not sandlot football. The only reason why Aaron is able to make everything he does look so easy is years and years of studying film knowing nfl defensive coverages so you know where to go with your reads once you spot what look it is. Wilson to me may pan out or he may be just another bust that could've polished his game better under certain sets and styles. If he's replacing Darnold as a Jet, he's going to have a lot of issues in the earlygoing.

[@willhoffman6629]

@@rubinturner8233 I agree- like almost all of the QB's in this years draft, Wilson would benefit tremendously from sitting for his first year, if not longer. I don't think he should start day one, he needs time to learn the game and maybe year two he will be ready. I do think he's got a nature talent for making accurate, well timed throws however. However I wouldn't say this is a Manziel or Rosen scenario- Rosen was a pure system QB who really had no right to be drafted that early and was thrust into a god awful O-Line scheme that didn't really fit him. Manziel was a QB who got egotistical in college and didn't attempt to refine his immature aspects of his game- he was bound to fail because he played like a college QB, not an NFL QB. Bakers comparison works though, and I think he will be very similar to Baker. Baker struggled his second year in a crappy O line and played way too risky (like a college QB), but he seems to have found his rhythm in year 3 and hopefully stays that way for year 4. Given time Baker panned out, but struggled early and could've benefited tremendously from sitting for a bit and learning the game (which he obviously did in the 2020 offseason, and he's on the verge of being a top 10 QB). He needs time and hopefully the Jets understand that and give him time by signing a cheap QB to let him sit- or acquire one through the imminent Darnold trade (maybe Teddy, Foles or someone else).

[@TheRefBump]

@@rubinturner8233 why on earth is Baker Mayfield being used in the same sentence as Josh Rosen and Johnny freaking Manziel😂😂😂

[@vinnyb3978]

@@TheRefBump Honestly. Baker broke the rookie TD record before Herbert did. He also brought the Browns (who were a laughing stock and easily the worst franchise in the NFL) to the playoffs

[@TheHighlanderprime]

Agree.

[@therockoutlab4658]

Yeaaa we need a qb rankings vid

[@ohiostin]

17:00 they show cover 2, but roll to cover 3. Pre-snap, the slot WR is looking to run a post. A cover 3 dictates a seem read like in Run n Shoot's "Go" concept, but no SS jumps the flat & TE#83 doesn't run the shoot route. It's high risk to throw it to the Y-guy in the slot, because we're all seeing different things. The Y WR runs a quasi dig/post. Wilson was right to look to his outlet.

[@TheQBSchool]

You play Q at BYU?

[@ohiostin]

@@TheQBSchool I developed the scheme. It's the same one Joey Burrow ran at LSU under my tutelage. I taught Burrow and Wilson the read via b-mail.

[@ohiostin]

@@TheQBSchool I want zach Wilson on my NFL team, because he's "my guy" no matter what his faults are & no matter how bad you think he is. He knows my scheme. If Justin fields was good, Urban Meyer would want the same. Meyer was involved with OSU while fields was there. Fields ran his scheme. Meyer not wanting to play with fields in the NFL really says a lot. Meyer doesn't seem interested in playing with Haskins either after years of hyping him up to ohioans.

[@ryansullivan3999]

So what are your qb rankings? I’m still deciding on who I want the Jets to draft at 2.

[@flowthrupranayama]

You either learn how to rank players yourself, or you just trust JDouglas because this JT is lost in the sauce on this one. Is he just saying he prefers Fields? THE JETS will go Wilson, unless they prefer more risk and upside. Fields is the choice of the guy who wants the 25% chance of HOF, not just 15%. However, I think the bust potential would happen with Fields more often because his flaws are in line with what Sam Darnold struggled with and, as we have seen, he is nearing confirmation as a bust.

[@vinnyb3978]

@@flowthrupranayama that's false. First off Fields doesn't have Darnolds turnover problem, horrible mechanics, or accuracy issues. Plus a QB like a Fields RARELY fails in the NFL. Who's the last guy who came out as big and athletic as him and was a bust? I like Wilson. But to put Fields in Darnolds category is dumb.

[@flowthrupranayama]

@@vinnyb3978 he had 7 INT's this season, with a dominant team no less. PASS AT 2. I don't think the Niners are insane if they do it though. His floor isn't bad because he is the best RUNNING QB ALL TIME in all likelihood. Fields is to Db tacklers as Bo Jackson was to LB 's. If anyone missed out on Bo, do yourself a favor.

[@dominickpatterson7309]

@@flowthrupranayama he had 4 ints all last season does that go out of the window or are we judging him solely on 6 games he played this Covid season

[@blackwallnthesestreets7054]

Who Dat JT from the 985

[@ohiostin]

17:00 Wilson makes the right read!

[@eltonrosas]

Agreed

[@moonlitegram]

Disagree. JTs on point here. Watch the 17:08 mark. At that point Wilson is back in the pocket and clear to throw, the inside db is squared away facing the QB and isnt turning to cover the receiver. So if Wilson was looking at his read there, he’d see that and could have anticipated the reciever was gonna get behind the inside db and thrown the ball at that point for the big gain. Instead he probably has his eyes on the rush that’s just starting to break free at that point, so he doesn’t see that throw and cant anticipate it. Thus he holds on to the ball and has to play it out as he did for the check down.

[@ohiostin]

@@moonlitegram the Y receiver isn't Wilson's #1 read there.

[@ohiostin]

@@moonlitegram pause it at 17:09. A cover 3 tells Y to run a seam. Even if the play call assigns a dig no matter what, the LB is posted up right in front of the Y WR as he starts his break. That ball gets intercepted if Wilson throws an anticipatory ball. Wilson already steps up in the pocket though, and doesn't even appear to be looking at his Y guy at the snap.

[@ohiostin]

@@moonlitegram when Wilson motioned Rex to max protect, he automatically knows that Y as his #1 gets called off, because there subsequently is no flat route. If there's no flat route, the SS/LB doesn't get pulled out of the box. If the SS/LB doesn't get pulled out of the box, the Y cross window is closed out of the break.

[@bpraise517]

Zach's running and gunslinger game got him #2...He misses too many guys at the QB position. Poor Jets.

[@esdrasvincent5184]

At 3:35 Although 18 is open, he would have to get a lot of YAC in order to make it a really meaningful play; after 18 catches that ball, he would be instantky swarmed by the defenders around him. I think Wilson felt like he could have had a better play if he ran outside of the pocket because all of his other options weren't as explosive and he was right.

[@CheckThisOutReviews]

For reals, who cares if he's open, corner is lurking and gonna tackle for like a 2 yard gain😂

[@shibbity08]

100%, why dump it off for a 2yd gain. The dude took it for 20+ yards and he calls it a mistake. The play he went from 1 to 2 to 1, he is just looking off the safety, he hit his guy on the numbers and gave him a chance to break just one tackle after taking the safety out of the play and he had a chance take it to the house.

[@nickevans5589]

@@shibbity08 manziel did that for a living. It’s a pattern. He misses open receivers

[@nickevans5589]

Points remains that the guy didn’t read the field. It happens a lot.

[@esdrasvincent5184]

@@nickevans5589 not on that particular play tho, sure he had trouble with it on other plays, but there he did and just chose a different option

[@Lance_Thorpe_Esq.]

I understand that critiquing QB play without understand what his coaches may have drilled into him is tough but I think all of your questions/criticism are fair and valid. And all you're doing is giving your opinion of the player. It doesn't sound like you're saying he isn't a very good player or that he won't/can't be successful at the next level.

[@descendency]

As a guy who was in the league, how often did you see a guy come in and have issues with these kinds of things only to work them out? It's hard to judge when something is a big issue or not.

[@MoMoMyPup10]

I'd say it's virtually impossible to figure out who will work them out and who won't. We have to remember that these guys are 20-22 years old and are nowhere near their peak as athletes and reaching their ceiling, which will likely come at ages 25-30. But too often by then they've found the learning curve a big hurdle to overcome and the league has dismissed them as bonafide starters. Some guys it takes longer to 'figure it out' than others, and then there's guys like Darnold that get put in a no win situation and the opportunity to figure it out is thwarted by the team itself. The team they go to means everything.

[@latinreuben]

This is called "processing" yet he has never béen tagged with that. May be fixable with good coaching but that combined with shoulder injury history makes him qb3 or qb4.

[@elpapi4633]

he has no major issues

[@milo8425]

Listening to and watching this makes me feel like I'm in a film room with Alex Smith. Super polite, smart and no-nonsense. Enlightening series so far. I will say though that the 1-2-1 play earlier in the video looks clever on tape even if it's not technically sound or responsible. Locking the safety inside with his eyes opens his outside receiver to get more of the separation he was clearly exploiting already and turns a short play into a big one. Greedy and maybe purely incorrect/lucky, but there's an argument there for a very advanced and aware play. Would love to see the big talking heads hyping Zach up sit down with guys like you for a few hours and hash out the details though. No reason we can't have a more casual and thorough exploration of hyped up players.

[@Love_Warrior]

Keep watching past the Houston game. He was a good/very good qb against Houston. By the time he played Boise he was approaching great. The Coastal Carolina game is actually what sold me. Don’t look at the stats, watch the tape. He was throwing dime after dime with quick pressure in his face. His teammates let him down all game with some awful drops and he still got them to the 1 yard line within earshot of winning as time expired. For the rest of the season he was a surgeon. What I see is a guy that was finally healthy and finally had time in the pocket to grow into the game.

[@rmichels05]

You should watch the USC tape, he struggled at points but made some special plays against a defense with NFL talent which is something he unfortunately couldn’t do this year

[@whambam21]

1. Don’t let the outside noise tell you what to expect from a player. Just do your evaluation unbiassed. This how you expect a 21 year old to like like mahomes down double digits in the playoffs. Also vice versa if you expect a player to be bad you may start to overrate him when he isn’t as bad as your thought.

[@patrickcardoso324]

You can pull mental lapses from all the QB's in the draft.

[@johnmcho]

What I'm seeing is a high ceiling and lower floor. I think a lot of those things can get coached out though. Based on what the Jets are doing with Darnold, I can see Zach starting the season on the bench while Darnold starts so he has more time to work on those things.

[@joehebert789]

On that first throw, it looked to me that he did throw to the outside shoulder but the receiver drifted wide rather than turn his head.

[@bigdap100]

No he didn’t it was jump ball dude...and he throws those often...if he was playing a real team that sh@t woulda been 100% picked off.

[@Lebron1279]

JTOS -- Aged like fine wine.

[@edwinlaws9625]

I think you are completely right especially in that play where he goes 1,2,1. In the NFL you need to take a pass when it’s open and not wait. That could close up quick in the NFL. Good luck to him though.

[@khalil7232]

Right, but he’s not in the NFL yet. I believe he has the talent to adjust to possible plays like this in the NFL, though.

[@edwinlaws9625]

@@khalil7232 Yeah, I understand he isn’t in the NFL but in about 4-5 weeks he’s gonna be on a team and in about 5-8 months he’s gonna play his first NFL snap. Yes I believe he’s gonna be great but all I’m staying is if he takes these things to the NFL with him his transition will be harder than necessary. The 1,2,1 was an unnecessary head movement because the 2 wasn’t even open for more yards. I believe he will be good but that doesn’t mean he’s perfect and has no flaws that can’t be acknowledged. Until he is perfect, which will never happen, nitpicking is what a player must do to grow even better.

[@khalil7232]

@@edwinlaws9625 he had some questionable reads/decisions in this film no doubt. I think the 1,2,1 was a good job of brining the safety down, though. I don’t think you attempt a play like that unless you have a beat on the defense/defender, or are just really freaking confident in yourself (kind of hope it’s a little bit of both). Anyway, you’re right about having to be nitpicky. Initially, you would think he needs to rip that slant for whatever the defense gives him, but I think he does a good job of getting more out of it with that safety trying to play in between at first.

[@khalil7232]

But yeah. the NFL is filled with freaks, so I think he’ll have to adjust his game a lot, based off the film, to lessen the difficult transition. Thankfully, he has the talent to do so.

[@k_c_j_r]

As an admitted Zach Wilson fan and somebody who makes a living doing research analysis, this is outstandingly thorough stuff.

[@TheQBSchool]

My man

[@dylantereman9218]

If you were the Jets at #2, who would you lean towards being the pick, strictly off the film you’ve watched?

[@joshuaclarke623]

BYU fan here... I'd suggest that the main plus to Zach Wilson is his study and work ethic. He kinda sucked last year and came back this year as a top QB because he dedicated the summer to learning how to play. He studied every team (except Coastal Carolina... Don't get me started there) and came into the game with a clear plan. Some of his throws seem like he's already made up his mind on where the ball is going and reads the field a little less because of that planning. I've never really liked how he plays buddy-ball with Dax Milne (#5), but they do have a good connection and the other receivers tend to drop balls a lot.

[@sffan10]

My question is, if JT could see all this, why couldn’t the Jets and everyone else who thought he was Mormon Mahomes?

[@KamuiCage]

Seems like most NFL teams have a hive mind. Rankings come out and they are set in stone they dont care if a guy can actually play football but how looks and acts on and off the field. The 9ers picked Alex Smith over Rodgers because they thought he was arrogant or something.

[@Rex93241]

I don’t think I am an NFL scout, BUT dang it looks clear as day from your experienced view. How can people who do this for a living see this garbage play and think first round pick, future franchise QB…etc. How do scouts miss this badly?? Do scouts sit at home let ESPN rankings tell them who to draft??

[@Fier07112]

Tho I agree with your assessments on this video, on the specific play (10:45) where he made his read was 1 to 2 back to 1 it actually moved the safety off the 1st read when he looked 2!!!! It was actually great manipulation by looking off his 1st read to make him open because the safety sat watching his eyes!!!!!

[@Kevinwatts0316]

I'm literally screaming, throw the post!!

[@johnnyjets2343]

So for me anyways what i got from this video is Zach Wilson has a stat that he leads all these qbs in tight window throws. Seeing this is a small sample that not all of those small window throws had to be tight to begin with.

[@clarkkent1521]

I play recreational kickball and there's always that one guy who makes simple outfield catches more difficult than it has to be by jumping, sliding, running too late to it, etc.

[@briancrawley3456]

First play RT was getting blown up into him and killed redirection. Another was ref bumping into his TE. Can't make progressions waiting for the ball on reverse. But the others were definitely signs for concern and correction. Still see his quickness as a strength and not a flaw on next level. Mahomes is a freak but this kid will be the 2nd best QB in the NFL in 2 years.

[@wiljaq2773]

Yep. I’m a Jets fan (since ‘71) & a BIG Sam Fan, so I’ve been recently been doing some serious researching of Zach Wilson. Yes, I think he’s very talented, but a lot of what he does well Sam can do too,... and on bad Jets teams, with bad schemes, against NFL competition. Another thing that no one talks about is BYU was scheduling games last minute so defenses a little time to plan vs a superior BYU program and a QB talent. I really like Zach Wilson’s skillset but not any more than Sam’s. I think that If Sam had with the Jets the same degree of clean pockets, creative plays, and open receivers that Zach had with BYU that he’d do at least just as well,...maybe better. I say, pick Penei Sewell or trade #2 and build a Jets football better team,..... but it’s Joe Douglas’

[@MoMoMyPup10]

Yeah, my sentiment too. No run game, no pass pro, no WR's to break down D's, bad penalties at critical times, 3rd and long all day, bad coaching/terrible system, and the weight of the whole franchise on a 23 year old's shoulders - are we surprised that he's pressing more and more and making mistakes? Not to mention an injury or illness each year to derail any possible consistency or momentum. I don't think any QB would've shined in that mess.

[@mjciavola]

You asked...so, I'm telling! I agree that there are some serious issues with the underthrows and missing open receivers.

[@TheQBSchool]

There ya go

[@matthewmcbride9920]

What are you missing? You're missing the part where you put your analysis on the line and rank these QBs. Your analysis seems sound, but it appears you may be inferring...what? That Fields is better? Or Zach Wilson isn't in Trevor Lawrence category? What's the main point, I think you should just come out and say what you're trying to say and then be judged on it later on. IMO.

[@RDSports5]

Great post, totally agree.

[@kray97]

I think Fields is better than Wilson...it's pretty clear.

[@ajakeasmanfan7880]

i agree but u gotta have guts hes to worried about losing views on his videos wilson is a way better passer of the ball

[@siddarthaariga2927]

How’d this go

[@JusticeBenho]

This aged terribly

[@nobleaj8]

I think what the prevailing mentality with quarterbacks is ability trumps decision making. The latter can be coached. The former is kind of baked in.

[@reydena9052]

I agree, but not all qbs can learn, especially if they are starting right away. The question for Zach Wilson is, how well can he learn?

[@nobleaj8]

@@reydena9052 Totally. I think that part of the attraction is because Mahomes and Allen have found so much success. They had similar dings coming out of college and pro personnel people are always looking for the next generational talent. Statistically, however, even early 1st rounders are only about 60% successes.

[@JeffreyTheTaylor]

I'm sorry I watched the Mormon v Mullets game live and was completely unimpressed. Coastal is a bunch of grinding 2-stars on defense and ZW did not jump off the screen as someone on a totally different tier. I think he has upside, but you'd be nuts to take him in the top 20.

[@bradkinney9323]

On the slant td you can see he quickly looks the safety to the right from the endzone angle. That froze the safety then comes back and drills it for a td.

[@lelandsledge1905]

JT you are NOT alone! They hyped this kid up the same way they did Blaine Gabbert and Mitch Trubisky. I don’t see it either!

[@elpapi4633]

it’s not.

[@gsdmickey2976]

He has alote of talent for sure no doubt about it. With a better team around him in the NFL he would be great.

[@barneymiller5488]

2023. Rodgers is down. Zach is back. Here to prove the doubters wrong and.............nope. The doubters had it right. Kudos!

[@ArrowoodsHobbyShop-Ebay]

I love both your videos and Chris simms but he has an excellent history with these QBs for years now,I trust Chris. Zach wilson is the best QB in this class and I'm a Clemson fan since 1987.

[@rubenheheh6363]

This aged well

[@joegregory5053]

In my opinion on the play where Wilson looks 1 to 2 to 1 and then throws the slant late it looked like his first glance at one took place before the WR got off the line and then he was looking at 2 while 1 was open and then by the time he got back to looking at 1 it was too late. What I am basically trying to say is that he was looking at 2 while 1 was open, I don’t think he was just staring down an open receiver and not throwing it like JT said.

[@wiljaq2773]

Great video BTW. I’ve seen a bunch from you but have now subscribed!

[@robertzenniful]

You are making some good points, and would give me pause if I was drafting him , but maybe he’s so athletically gift , That he feels he’ll just make it up during the play

[@shibbity08]

He throws the ball when he has a receiver 1 on 1 with a DB/CB with their back to the ball. That is a smart play, you act like he just threw it up but when you see a DB trailing and not looking for the ball it is an easy pass. It worked basically every time this game and it’s not a coincidence. If the DB had his head turned and was in good position he wouldn’t throw the ball.

[@nickevans5589]

U talking about the first clip? If so u never throw that. Receiver wasn’t open when he threw it up

[@shibbity08]

@@nickevans5589 True story, first pass was very risky.

[@The_Handsom_Italian]

Zack Wilson's faults can easily be fixed with a QB Coach in the NFL. They did wonders on Josh Allen's progression. Zack Wilson has more good then bad and his style converts well into the NFL, take justin Herbert for example those jump balls are accurate passes that give the reciever the better play on it and zack Wilson has those traits. He will be good enough in the NFL to compete with herbert, burrows, tua , mahomes, trevor Lawrence and Josh Allen within a few seasons of progressing.

[@gasmasl14]

Do you think the 4th&1 play in the 3rd qtr would be a TD. If Wilson didn’t try to get cute from the snap? I think he would have a split second more time to make the throw for a TD? I personally like the move but believe it backfired on him this time. Thanks in advance for your time JT!!!

[@ballsofsoup]

i was thinking the exact same thing watching his film, but when you stack him up against fields and lance, fields reads the play way too slowly and doesn’t quite move through reads at an NFL level yet which could cause problems with presumably less time in the pocket, and trey lance is a wildly inaccurate passer who is as raw as any QB prospect i’ve seen in recent years to be rated so highly, so comparatively, a QB with as good of ball placement and accuracy as wilson has, with as quick as he’s able to release the ball i would put him firmly in the same breath as fields and definitely above lance, despite him being the exemplification of a “first read” QB. all three prospects i believe can be coached out of their flaws, lance will need a lot more than fields and wilson though

[@stonecold1952]

Just a couple of comments. As to his jump ball throws; you have to see the special connection he has with his receivers. He knows what they can do and about 75% of the time, it works. Just remember, while he will be facing NFL db’s, he will also have NFL receivers. I get what your saying about reads, but that can be taught. His athleticism, structure, arm strength and desire can’t. No doubt he’ll work on that with any time that takes him. He has the potential if he’s taken by the right team with the right coach. I’m hoping he’ll tear up the NFL and maybe give me a reason to watch again.

[@justthisguyimadude7288]

He got much better throughout the year. For example, Boise and Coastal he reads mesh correctly multiple times. He also reads Mesh against UCF that goes for a TD, making a quick read against man blitz to the RB wheel. I think it's a testament to his preparation and also some better coaching he received this year. He was way too cute on multiple plays this game, throwing the ball when he sees opposing players heads turn and he thinks he can make a play.

[@youmustbeoutyourmind446]

Great Breakdown! I kind of felt like Clayton Tune out played Zach Wilson for most of this game. You can clearly see the talent Wilson has but he's got some things to work on for sure.

[@IsmokeHiphopLive]

Love this video

[@toubeelo1979]

I think decision making is usually the thing that makes or breaks QBs in the NFL. You can be athletic and talented, but if you make poor decisions like Jameis Winston then you won't last.

[@gibster9624]

I think between film and analytics you get a very good picture painted of what a guy will be. Suppose you could throw in eye test as being separate from film if you consider the eye test to just mean does he look like a #1 overall pick when you watch him play.

[@jonbitter395]

Did you get the same impression from his other games? I remember not being as impressed with him in the Houston Game as in other games. Maybe I was just getting caught up in the hype, but I thought he became noticeable more consistent with timing and hitting guys in stride during the back half of the season.

[@rmichels05]

He’s been a lot more positive about Wilson in other videos

[@jessejordache1869]

On the first throw I don't see how the db makes a play on it: the angle is too steep.

[@ericsnyder5427]

You're not off your rocker! You are calling it as you see it & you don't have to apologize for being a nice guy. Everyone has hyped this kid as a prospect including that loon Simms Jr. Yet the tape doesn't lie!!! Against Houston & the rest of BYU's marshmellow schedule??? Yet Fields is dripping with talent & criticized over the Indiana & Northwestern film? I didn't see Wilson pressured into many of these miscues & my drunken uncle could cover better than those corners. Yet the Hoosiers threw the kitchen sink at Fields & their D has players that will be drafted. Don't be fearful of an honest critique sir, it is why I personally trust your learned judgement. Thank you so much for this breakdown JT, it's refreshing to know I'm not alone...

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

4:31 he was getting some pass rush on his right, but there certainly was a window to get the ball out to the underneath.

[@ohiostin]

18:50 Technically, it's not 1 to 2. That RB swing is his 4th or 5th option. Probably 4th since TE#83 motions to max protect.

[@danielrigby7468]

I don't know if you have done the bowl game, I have looked at a few of your other videos, but I feel like that was probably Zach's best game this year. This Houston one was probably one of his worst, especially that first half. As far as your analysis, I think you are correct. Zach has struggled with these issues his whole career at BYU. He doesn't make quick reads and is sometimes inconsistent with his ball placement. However, he has significantly improved these things as well. So I think he can get better. I am a little surprised at his placement in the draft, but as a BYU fan its very exciting. But again I think you are correct with his issues. I believe he has the arm talent, but he needs to do some more maturing in his reads and consistency.

[@lukegrant3201]

How early in the process did you watch this game? Obviously it was far from his best game. But your language suggests this was one of the first you watched

[@jakethomas3029]

Straight bust or the next Montana. No in between

[@caleblarsen5490]

Okay, this is the fourth analysis you've done of him. He's had games that you've watched that are just nuts on how well he reads the defense and chucks the ball. This is a bad day for him. Most people want a bad day as bad as this.

[@moonlitegram]

I think the 4th and 1 play was nitpicky, but other than that these criticisms were on point and fully warranted. Def stuff teams like the Jets and niners are going to have to consider. 4th and 1 play: he’s doing a funky fake botched snap, he moves through his progressions like you want to see him do there, and then with 3 defenders barreling in on him he’s ever so slightly off on his placement. So I’m not gonna fault him too hard there. Yea it would have been nice if he placed the ball 1 yard further down the field for the TD. But with the unusual nature of the fake and 3 guys in his face, I’m not going to fault him too hard for being a yard short on the throw.

[@ajakeasmanfan7880]

u can dind that stuff in other qb tape as well

[@yeahr1ghty]

Sure, but TLaw and Fields tape is cleaner. Wilson is a strong QB3 or QB4 in a stacked draft class, its no disrespect to him.

[@patricksutfin9374]

@@yeahr1ghty Fields tape is not cleaner by any stretch watch tape of northwestern he looked not even average

[@farkletwat24642]

you mention his Mahomes like drifty-ness and pop on the throw. i'd be willing to bet mr wilson played baseball growing up. it's a similar motion to fielding a grounder and cocking your hips as you run or lining up a fly ball to pick off an advancing runner

[@RDSports5]

Here's my thing, if you went back to the 1979 Cotton Bowl and dissected every single throw Joe Montana made against Houston (albeit in frigid conditions), but take any of his best college games as well, you'd see missed reads, underthrown balls, overthrown balls, etc., because even the greatest players are human. I do appreciate the analysis for sure JT, and yours is a great one to watch because you played the position, and in my opinion played it well in your short stint with my Niners, but I also think sometimes our over analyzing can blind us a bit of how gifted this guy is. He isn't perfect, no one is, Brady coming out of college sure wasn't, and I'd argue that he wasn't HALF as talented as this kid. He was a very accurate passer at Michigan, and his arm was CLEARLY underrated, but he would get sacked on several plays that Zach can scramble on for 15-20 yards, or make a play with his arm. All that to say, he's not the player today that he will be if given the right environment and NFL level talent around him, but trust your eyes when you see him show several examples of elite level throws, because not many before him or currently can make those plays

[@chetthebee1322]

The thing about Wilson it looks like he's reached his peek unlike, say, Josh Allen coming out of college who still doesn't look like he's reach his peek. It would still be hard to pass on him if I were the Jets.

[@RyanPasta]

As a Jets fan, for me it's always been Fields at #2. Wilson is definitely my QB3 just because the high's can be so high, but I'm just concerned he is significantly more talented than the players he came up against and he took full advantage of that. If it were the Jets picking #3 I'd have to be pretty happy about all the noise of Wilson jumping Fields to go #2 as I think that is a flat out wrong assessment of these two players. Think Justin Fields is getting nit picked to death by the media, they only focus on his flaws, but Wilson receives heaps of praise and minimal talk about his flaws.

[@vic55jets]

They both sucked so oh well

[@vinnichiocchi9220]

@JT as a Jets fan you’re breaking my heart bro. I agree with you on 95% though. @ around the 11:00 mark, I think he made the right play. It seems like he’d have to throw a super bullet to get it over the top of his G(?) and passed that LB. So, how much of this can be cleaned up through coaching? Or is that more of a “we’ll see” situation? I appreciate it this!! I’ll go to you before all these other dudes in KZbin world for a real analysis. The other guys are good but yours is the real deal.

[@yeahr1ghty]

For what it's worth, I think this video is mainly a response to people anointing Zach QB1 or QB2 off hype alone. This is still a good vid for whatever fan base gets him, just set realistic expectations. I really like Zach, have been saying he has the best pure arm talent in this draft for months. Now people are going overboard comparing him to Mahomes and Rodgers, who showed less flaws as prospects (they had mainly mechanical issues not as many errors or blind moments as Zach has). I like Tlaw and Fields better than Zach, but he's still a great prospect worthy of a top 5 pick. I think Fields could still be the pick at 2, Jets haven't leaked any of their moves in the Joe D era, so I think Wilson at 2 is still speculation (based on DJ) just like Mac Jones at 3 (based on Simms) its all pure speculation at this point.

[@positivp]

I get it but you can watch any QB coming out in any year and find "what am I missing". It's about can this guy learn, adapt and grow his game to be successful in the N.F.L.

[@wesleywalker5436]

I’m very curious in your analysis why you say he can’t attempt these jump balls vs. NFL cornerbacks without acknowledging that Mims and Davis are both bigger the their cornerback counterparts at 6’3” 215 and considered excellent at 50/50 balls? Aren’t 50/50 balls commonplace in the NFL? How come only cornerbacks are included in this analysis?