4 Websites Every PC Builder Should Know

[@PercyPanleo]

With bottleneck calculators: their results vary a lot due to different games utilizing the cpu and gpu differently. Also, unless you are planning to completely replace your PC every time you want to upgrade, you should have what those websites consider to be a GPU bottleneck, as GPUs are both easier to replace and faster to lose their value than CPUs

[@satibel]

Given the price of gpus yes, you'll almost always have a gpu bottleneck, unelss you have a very old cpu, but even something like a 2013 xeon or even an i5 2500k will still perform very well with any gpu. (Though you might have issues with gpus which use an 8x instead of a 16x slot with cpus which don't support pcie4) The main thing you need a powerful cpu for is shader compilation and downloading.

[@ChairmanMeow1]

yea bottleneck calculators are stupid imo, there will ALWAYS be one no matter what

[@Spartan-3144]

Just play 10 year old games. I "over built" my rig, r5 3600 and a 1080ti, and all i really play is osu. Coulda saved a few dollars and gotten a ryzen 3 and a 1050, or even smaller

[@PercyPanleo]

@@Spartan-3144 you're still pretty well future proofed with that if you ever decide to try other games. My dad was using a 1080 (non ti) for a while and only upgraded to an RX 6750 because of Ark Survival Ascended. (And I was using a GTX 970 and only upgraded to RX 6750 because of Wayland on Linux not liking the 970 and wanting to do PCVR)

[@zebedeesummers4413]

the point is to have the bottleneck to hold back other parts minimally and/or be specifically a part that can be replaced later like the OP said. ​@@ChairmanMeow1

[@arandomdude524]

Disclaimer: those "bottleneck" calculators arent accurate at all,they just get some numbers out of their ass on a game they chosen,actually look and dont use the calculator,like a example of the i512400f and 4070 ti,they say its cpu bottleneck for a game like 50 dollars,but on all games it isnt,so dont trust those calculators,they are spreading bs.

[@teefus1]

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[@sleepyduxx9555]

Yeah, might be. Cause I got a r3 1200, rx 580 and it showed that there was no bottleneck but no headroom for a better gpu either. Then I got a rx5600xt and benchmarked on furmark it just to see my fps doubled with seemingly no problems. Though, I do find r3 1200 not a very strong cpu, that evaluation where rx 580 was the limit for it seemed to be wrong.

[@Joeyeditz44]

fr zachs builds on his website apparenty bottleneck according to the bs calculator. plus there own suggested combos bottleneck to like wtf so idk how zach would even recommend that

[@Qkamber27]

@@sleepyduxx9555 furmark is a gpu only stress test it won’t help with checking cpu bottlenecking

[@lentas4921]

Calculator is broken.

[@AlexHusTech]

*Didn't know a SSD tier list exists, not that many models though*

[@alirahimi4746]

Didn't know either. About the models, now that more people know about this, it will probably be updated more frequently

[@edelzocker8169]

I reommend buying a older SSD model because a SSD cannot be a bottelneck...

[@Ilikedagames-rf2fx]

@@edelzocker8169??????

[@DingusYi]

@@edelzocker8169That’s not true… the CPU will load something as fact as it can. A game, OS, image, video, etc will load faster on a sata SSD than an HDD, just like it will load faster on an NVME SSD than a SATA SSD. People buy more expensive drives for more speed, more capacity, or both. Try loading a game on a SATA SSD vs a NVME SSD. The NVME will load a ton faster, which is always desired.

[@edelzocker8169]

@@DingusYi YAY! 500$ more for 0.0001 second faster loading time...

[@1nfinitySaym00r]

When I started to search all the components for my first pc build, I didn’t know any of these were the right sites to use, but I used them anyway. Now I know that I made the right choices without even knowing it 😂

[@DaimyoD0]

I'm happy for you.

[@AshtonGodbout]

Same 😂

[@terrafair3248]

*Russian beauties wants you in your area click here*

[@pdp_098]

😂, lol.

[@MatterLivesWhite]

Not that hard. Finding a gpu and cpu is the easiest part... The hardest part is knowing if everything is compatible with one another. E.g. if ur getting 4000 series nvidea gpu but want rgb cables then u have to get 12+4 for 60to40 and 8x3 for 90... There's tons like if u have enough controllers for your rgb stuff etc. You need to dive in properly because you obviously don't wanna spend extra money on components u didnt need. In my country ur only garunteed 7 day returns so it's important here

[@X_irtz]

I would not really trust a bottleneck calculator. One website told me that my 5600 and 6700XT combo has a 22% CPU bottleneck, but then another website tells me it's 9% and the bottleneck is somehow the... GPU? Either way, don't trust them TOO much

[@idkspacey]

Hows the combo holding up? Im planning to get the same combo

[@SssNiTroGeN]

​@@idkspaceythe combo is absolutly perfect for 1440p gaming under 1000 dollars

[@andrewbennett8624]

@@idkspaceyi run a 10th gen i3 and a 5600 non-xt on my $300 travel pc and i still lock at 60fps 1080p on ultra settings for some games and high for the rest

[@TooThiccToFit]

@@andrewbennett8624is your bulid stable while plays games like cs2, val, or halo?

[@battlefieldfan111]

That bottleneck calc only works if you put a game in, because two games can have VERY different requirements.

[@B2DT11B]

Dude you crack me up; I was have expecting you to say “for a budget setup, this the OLED monitor.”

[@guigui4464]

You forgot the wattage calculator for the psu. Many new builders don’t know how much energy their future build needs.

[@Karbvnyte]

pc parts picker has a wattage calculator

[@satibel]

As a rule of thumb add your cpu+gpu tdp, add 50W and double it, and you should be fine. (Though intel cpus doesn't respect their tdp at all and will be happy drawing 250W on a 100W rated chip as long as it has cooling, so it can be off) So for a 200W gpu with a 150W cpu, that's 400*2 or 800W, though a 700 or 750W would most likely be fine, having a bit of leeway is better. You'll probably get a psu that is overkill with that, but you'll avoid issues like (iirc) 3080 gpus taking twice their rated power for short amounts of time and causing issues. If you're short on cash, sure, get a closer one, but imo it's worth getting a good power supply and not worrying about it for the next 10 years.

[@silverfishofdoom1312]

I just bought an 850w for mjne

[@Henry_The_Goat]

@@satibelMy build uses 475w and I just don’t have enough money to get a better power supply so my is 650w I figured that would be just fine, also my first build ever. Also what do you think of Newegg that’s what I used to build my pc.

[@reecebewley7630]

I would recommend a gpu comparison chart as some people are only familiar with NVIDIA but after knowing they want to build with amd just knowing how good the amd card actually is for it’s price

[@SLURPZZZ4461]

Needed the average price finder I've been searching all over Google and reddit threads trying to find the normal price for certain parts

[@blackburngaming8345]

Google just shows you the typical price ranges in the right side shopping tab

[@noeneonmusic]

I completely forgot about used parts, over here about to start a 4k build. This will save me a lot

[@vijaypartha]

I did not know there was an SSD tier list. Thanks for the info!

[@robertojustus8567]

Also rule of thumb, if its for gaming you need to get the strongest gpu you can get, dont cheap out on the gpu, even tho the current market is not that great. A lower usage of your GPU means you get lower response times (time from input to resulting frame displayed). Tho you can use nvidia reflex, and amd has its own anti-lag, the better your gpu, the more responsive your game feels

[@igreshi]

Did you ever do a video explaining what the difference between high and mid end pcs? I feel like a lot of new builders can get confused at that part.

[@gingercheesecake7357]

The difference is probably the parts used

[@cxleb_x6226]

for reference, typically speaking anything below $800 would be considered budget and anything closer to the $1000 point would be mid range, then anything above like $1300 would be considered high end imo.

[@toxicturkeyy]

High end - faster

[@igreshi]

@@toxicturkeyy honored to meet Sherlock Holmes

[@AshtonGodbout]

​@@cxleb_x6226what about the old high-end? My gtx 980, i5-9600kf, 2tb, 20gb ddr4 PC classify as? It's got an MSI H370 pro gaming carbon mobo

[@isaacr7416]

These are amazing thank you!

[@WhatPython]

I didn't know about PC part picker when i built my PC, so i ended up with a 850W PSU for a $500 build lmao

[@lightest2385]

Lol well you got you’re dear ole friend future proofing waiting on you 😅😂

[@banana34458]

remember when you use a calculator use graphic card intense tasks because that is the gaming tab

[@GladiatorMan486]

Thank u. I was looking for some of those👍

[@HendriuGaming]

Bottleneck calculators don't work and also PSU tier list on many cases give products E, because they can't find any reviews, so they just place good units on low tiers.

[@ThatCanadianGuy]

There’s no way bro just recommended a bottleneck calculator

[@Darzk92590]

the cultists network PSU list hasn't been updated for a while so a lot of the new ATX 3.0 / PCIE5 PSUs aren't on there - the good news is that brand name builders have generally gotten much better with build quality and component selection in the newer releases so you're likely getting A tier for any PSU above $90

[@josedasilva8479]

Too late this came to me, but I'll save anyway bc it's really useful lol. Btw I'm super happy with my upgraded setup right now, and on how my research worked out. This new tools definitely will help on future researches! Thanks 😁😊

[@vinet4u]

You forget power consumption Calculator website

[@bitcoinsteve6471]

thanks for the helpful sites... keep up the great work.

[@sittingduck7589]

Me seeing this after ordering all of my parts

[@AvalosTokyo]

Damn, needed that bottle neck calc. Even tells you what to upgrade

[@Forgottenace9]

Ofc this gets recommended the moment after I ordered everything 🤦‍♂️

[@stefano173]

This works well, but there's also other websites that use a pricewatch for the cheapest price possible on websites that are usually searched in your country.

[@chicken]

Researching before building a PC is crucial, these tools are a game-changer for future upgrades.

[@Luka-se8wi]

3 weeks and one like bro fell off

[@adxemp]

4 weeks and two like bro fell off

[@BubbyGamingOfficial]

My psu on tier E be like.... I mean ive had my pc for almost 3 years and no psu problems yet

[@an_anonymous_potato]

your house: 🏚️🎇🔥

[@pantanlp7187]

Him in the first 10 seconds: I will not include the best website and everyone knows it....

[@diiibas]

Actually useful short❤

[@Qtuberbutnot]

If ur a Dutchie, megekko is good

[@mini_mikey1039]

Me: a pc beginner and didn’t know anything about pcpartpicker

[@33333Wapiti]

That last one is not accurate. It told me an i9-13900K would bottleneck a 3060 😂

[@FellowHuman-r3z]

if your content was a meal I would force feed jschlatt that meal as punishment for his crimes in 1999

[@William_Niceton]

The S20 SSD😂

[@Angels-Haven]

very good info

[@shortnative9989]

I just picked parts then built it it came out fine

[@onion69420]

Judt found a 1070 for 200 usd, guy must be smoking

[@Midwahjul]

Thank you very useful

[@null7639]

please make a video not a short so we can add this to playlists

[@BenB810]

if you click the 3 dots button it says save to playlist

[@Oxydoom]

yeah pc-builds tell me to buy a threadripper so I wont'be bottlenecking my 4070 ti super. Nice tip.

[@michubern1444]

haha

[@core36]

I am building a gaming pc out of used parts I happen to have lying around. i7 6700, 16 gb ddr4, rtx 2060, some asus mainboard to hold it all together. The case is from a very old computer, but it has the right size and is so basic that it’s easy to paint and modify. Since it has space for it maybe I will add a Blu-ray, DVD and a floppy drive, lol. Oh yeah, and 2x 1tb sata ssd for good measure. It’s really amazing what people throw away nowadays. I still need a PSU and a CPU cooler and those I will buy brand new.

[@D0Samp]

I just occasionally stroll through the PC building general on 4chan for laughs.

[@adlynazol412]

I dont trust the bottleneck calculator tbh, it said that a GTX 1080ti has lower bottleneck than an RX 570 Which is, wow

[@احمدساغریچی]

Thank you ,

[@MoPed108]

Disclaimer: the ssd tier list isn’t 100% accurate so make sure to check the specs of the ssd you are going to buy

[@abdulshubhan5301]

Thankyou

[@richardtrager7125]

The bottleneck calculator tells me the i9 13900K will be bottlenecking the RTX 4090. So basically nobody should be getting the 4090 until 14th or 15 gen releases.

[@alphanerd2305]

That's because the calculator is trash and not all that applicable to real-world scenarios.

[@TandonBrosGamingChamp]

Bottleneck calculators are completely inaccurate, says a 7800X3D will bottleneck an RTX 4070 Ti.

[@SuperZekesYT]

Am I the only one who saw him blinking with one eye...

[@lavacat720]

Whatever is in the dumpster it's what i use, i still use a 750 watt psu from 2009

[@davidjou614]

Unlicky he only realised this videos when I already bought everything for my PC

[@serbianspaceforce6873]

"bottleneck calculators" don't work because different games require wildly different types of calculations. Something like BO6 or games with crazy graphics are going to be way more GPU heavy while something like teardown can be easily bottlenecked by both whereas something like cities skylines or Minecraft could be limited more by CPU or RAM. not every game takes the same distribution of resources

[@Teodor600]

When you realise that your ssd is named "garbage" on this tier list 😢

[@MrLetsplayITA]

All fine until the bottleneck calculator

[@erikanybody4298]

The fundamental problem with a bottleneck calculator is that such calculations are ENTIRELY SPECIFIC to a particular game. You can't generalize. Each and every game has a unique combination of cpu amd gpu need. They're NOT in any way applicable to other games even in the exact same genre. Which unfortunately means they're completely useless. And I do mean **completely**

[@zwtsch]

Used part seller in my country: Nuh uh☝️

[@tornader]

Tbh I just use logical increments

[@sthvc-cu9qn]

80,3% GPU bottleneck🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@MOZZU_ca]

So if you have the omnitrex, you get the 😏 treatment form endangered species

[@the_irs_real]

what?

[@junkytrack]

Never trust bottleneck calculators

[@_the_Nochad]

I wish you could save shorts

[@sawyermccall2370]

The bottleneck calculator told me my CPU was too weak but then I hopped into some games and got 80% gpu usage and 20% cpu usage. Dont use bottleneck calculators it really depends on the game amd what settings you use

[@Striker-rw4rd]

I got a ryzen 5500 with a 6900xt, only catch is, my 5500 is overclocked to 4.7ghz and also has a 4000mhz cl 18 ram kit running 1:1.

[@theaverageenduser6241]

OMG ty average price finder..... awesome

[@haphappy266]

the last one told me a Intel core i9 14900k was to week for the 4070 super im not confident that's right

[@Johnson23720]

What do you mean by mid-range build? Is it 1000$-800$?

[@BILLPC2684]

why is there no HDD tier list? SSDs are everything...

[@johnnycakes5708]

So i find out I’ve slaved over a spreadsheet to find out it already exists…

[@LynXHimself]

The bottleneck calculator is trash, it says that my 7800X3D and RTX 4070 Super has 30% bottleneck 🤣

[@CrocoDylianVT]

Me with a D tier PSU in my mid range PC 💀 It's a BitFenix BPA600 it was on discount for $35 from $100 😭

[@scrap5407]

Bruh

[@Lithuania8634]

My pair got a 2.7 🙏

[@sooeeren]

Bequiet PSU Power calculator ❤

[@GameslordXY]

Bottlenecks are impossible to avoid...

[@abdullahalquaqezeh9742]

Hey should I build my first PC with a cheap Dell PC and upgrade slowly or..

[@luke_t2614]

That bottleneck calculator is telling me that my Ryzen 9 5900x is a bottleneck to my 1080ti??? The heck?

[@imrane206]

**I'm not including PC part picker** He included it

[@archwolf3835]

apparently pc-builds says my 3080ti and 5950x has a 0% bottleneck with 1440p res lol

[@asreneorlsd2814]

Mine was at 0% 😵 apparently works great together

[@angeloamaral9141]

Day #2 of asking Zack to rate my setup: i5-4590, 16gb ddr3, pcyes spark 400w, RTX 3050, 1tb sata ssd and dell optiplex 3020 sff case

[@liamtufts1044]

I'm at a crossroads in my PC building journey, I have a ryzen 5 5600x and and 3050(ikik), what should I upgrade next, CPU or GPU?

[@liamtufts1044]

Just to add I have a 1000w PSU for future proofing and a 1440p monitor

[@inextinguishable.]

I use the bottleneck calculator and it said the 4090 is too weak for a ryzen 9 7950x 💀

[@aliWasel-f8t]

Ima go put a rtx 3050 at 100k$ to mess with the average rates

[@Chronic0420]

I feel so stupid I think I said on a recent video to stick with a tear when building a computer which is fine, but I think I also said we’re better yet S tier 😂😂😂

[@Cryostal]

I like Passmark

[@zatozatoichi7920]

Nah, really don't need these, but thanks for the tips.

[@Alfie-v6g]

can you make a video on where i can find used parts

[@Muddy.Teabagger]

average price finder site was very off on the price off the GPU i tried, saying the lowest was £65 yet when you go to look there was not one at that price, as it seems the site is using starting prices of ones selling and we all know the starting price does not mean you get it for that price.

[@mal6186]

would you recommend a 13700k with the 4070 ti?

[@thetellybridgerr]

Use an online bottleneck calculator but I think the 13700k is still ok even with a 4080ti

[@arandomdude524]

@@thetellybridgerr the calculator spits bs and numbers out.of their ass but ok

[@ahmedalhuru3746]

Yup im using 4070ti and i7-13700k its a beast

[@az9az9az9]

Where is laptop built in SD card reader speed tier list? So many USB 2 card readers in 2023.

[@i_zoru]

for bottleneck calculator, i would rather go with cpuagents

[@angelicdragon9823]

The last one does not have my 1500x

[@mr.h2006]

The bottleneck calculator said a 7800x3d was too weak with a 7900xt for cpu heavy activities so I don't really take it seriously.

[@Scipouw]

The bottleneck calculator says my ryzen 7 7800x3d is to weak for my rtx 4070 lol

[@Mr.Myself]

Ah! First build, 0% bottleneck! 9 7900X3D, RX 7800 XT. 🎉

[@michubern1444]

there is always a bottleneck ;)

[@Teango]

I don't trust the bottlenecking website because it said that the Ryzen 7 7800 X3D would bottleneck the RX 7900XTX GPU

[@Trizanisgood]

Is the Ryzen 5 7600x and 7800xtx a good combo?

[@g4merguy27]

Was not aware of pc part picker.......

[@jezqi]

and the most important thing get amd gpu not nvidia

[@jezqi]

see the 7900xtx performs better in games and get more fps then 4080 if u want to do streaming and turn on raytracing in games get 4080 but if u only care about fps and dont use raytracing get 7900xtx@@kuba23602

[@scrap5407]

​@@kuba23602be a sheep like me and go Nvidia, works good for me

[@teknativo]

​@@kuba23602 If you do not care much about certain exclusive features from Nvidia, want raw performance, want to save money, and your actual needs do not justify paying a higher cost, then AMD is your answer.

[@kuba23602]

@@teknativo thanks for the answer I went with Radeon 7900xtx because, It was 200€ cheaper And so far I'm happy with my choice Maybe I'm gonna switch back to Nvidia When the rtx 5000 Series comes out But until then I'm Gonna go with AMD

[@teknativo]

@@kuba23602 Thanks for replying! There are so many variables to consider when upgrading or building a PC, but always is better to disect the real needs with points/questions and then you go from there to get a clear answer, or at least the best choice at that particular moment.