Zack Fair's Origins Explained ► Final Fantasy 7 + Crisis Core Lore

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5 жыл бұрын

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Zack Fair has been one of the most requested characters for us to cover within this Origins series and the time is now right for us to move back to the lore of Final Fantasy 7 with Zack Fair's Origins!
Despite having a relatively minor role within the original narrative of Final Fantasy 7, Zack Fair grew to be something so much more than that due to his leading role in Crisis Core and cameo appearance in Before Crisis.
It was through these expanded experiences that we got to learn more about his relationships with characters like Aerith, Cloud and Sephiroth, as well as new characters like Angeal and Cissnei. And it was through these experiences that we got to see the fun loving character that they had envisioned years prior, even if we always knew we'd have to see Zack Fair's death at the end.
We hope you enjoy! Be sure to let us know which character you'd like us to focus on next!
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Throughout this video, we'll be talking about things like...
- Zack Fair and Aerith
- Zack Fair and Cloud Strife
- Zack Fair (Buster Sword)
- Zack Fair's Death
- Zack Fair's Final Battle
- Zack Fair's Story

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@FinalFantasyUnion
@FinalFantasyUnion 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you all so much for your patience guys and apologies that we made you wait for Zack while we looked at other characters/games! We also appreciate it's been a while since the last Origins video, hopefully you won't have to wait so long for the next one :) ~Darryl/Lauren
@hamakuasledgehammer1920
@hamakuasledgehammer1920 5 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy Union Hell yes. I loved his character so much. I remember playing Dissidia FF on my PSP and missing his character. That’s why FFXV was so disappointing because characters like Zack had set a standard. Even his appearance is iconic. Sephiroth as a character was extremely likable in CC, and it made me sad that he went insane. And characters like Genesis, Sephiroth, and Angeal deserve their own game, especially Sephiroth. Gensis’s change of heart made he like his character even more as well.
@MartinGonzalez-em6zw
@MartinGonzalez-em6zw 5 жыл бұрын
I sub cause of Zack origin
@dylonbrady1022
@dylonbrady1022 5 жыл бұрын
When the next origin vid guys?
@AAAJ93
@AAAJ93 5 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy Union can we get a Barrett Wallace Origin?? 😬
@FinalFantasyUnion
@FinalFantasyUnion 5 жыл бұрын
Dylon, we're working on one right now! :D ~Darryl
@Dennnnnnn_
@Dennnnnnn_ 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a kid, I played Crisis core first with my dad then final fantasy 7, and when Aerith died I was crying, but then my dad said "Don't worry Aerith and Zack can now be together in the lifestream." and I just started crying harder. Thanks Dad.
@RayofSickness
@RayofSickness 4 жыл бұрын
So this is what having a dad is like.
@RpgRiser1
@RpgRiser1 4 жыл бұрын
Man that's so sweet and heartbreaking at the same time.
@myagastopiak4512
@myagastopiak4512 4 жыл бұрын
They don't end up together tho...
@theman7029
@theman7029 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't happen.
@arbetor12
@arbetor12 3 жыл бұрын
Hey he tried
@adams9727
@adams9727 5 жыл бұрын
Boy oh boy, the price of freedom is steep.
@user-dy5dz6zi6g
@user-dy5dz6zi6g 5 жыл бұрын
Adam S Bro chill out with that
@user-dy5dz6zi6g
@user-dy5dz6zi6g 5 жыл бұрын
Bringing back sad memories
@wilsonchen1000
@wilsonchen1000 5 жыл бұрын
T-T
@CASTLE_FGC
@CASTLE_FGC 5 жыл бұрын
Waaiii-aiii!?
@Ghost7065
@Ghost7065 5 жыл бұрын
Embrace your dreams and protect your honor .... AS SOLDIER
@livelyoh8816
@livelyoh8816 5 жыл бұрын
Zack just wanted to go back to Aerith... Goddammit!! I love Zack so much, such a likeable and genuine character.
@maxiellevillegas1388
@maxiellevillegas1388 4 жыл бұрын
That's his plan, but the world he lives in doesn't permit it.. Anyway, I think Zack and Aerith are both happily re-united on the OtherSide..
@ln8496
@ln8496 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxiellevillegas1388 ******in the lifestream There is no heaven and hell in FF7. You can argue there is a farplane, as its in the same world as ffx. They wouldnt be in the farplane as they werent sent
@noorabbas706
@noorabbas706 4 жыл бұрын
Im finna cry
@stygian4029
@stygian4029 3 жыл бұрын
zach just wants only one thing and its disgusting
@-_-Manic_Rob-_-
@-_-Manic_Rob-_- 5 жыл бұрын
Zack. One of the best final fantasy characters of all time. He deserves his origin story. His final battle, will be forever the greatest in final fantasy history. Wow thank you soooo much for all the likes!!!!
@Cuddapotato
@Cuddapotato 5 жыл бұрын
Literally. And I'll always think of him when I look at Clouds Buster Sword.
@-_-Manic_Rob-_-
@-_-Manic_Rob-_- 5 жыл бұрын
@@Cuddapotato True. Especially when Zack handed cloud the buster sword. Man I swear that gets me every time.
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 5 жыл бұрын
zack and john marston got something in common
@gdadder
@gdadder 5 жыл бұрын
john lawful zack at least killed off an entire army except for 3 soldiers and destroyed multiple helicopters. A true badass
@VinceTheCreatorr
@VinceTheCreatorr 5 жыл бұрын
Not just in Final fantasy but as a protagonist, character wise and a human being.
@letsongakemi
@letsongakemi 4 жыл бұрын
Zack wasn't able to go back to Aerith, but at least their Voice Actors are married in real life
@logan6034
@logan6034 4 жыл бұрын
LetsongaAkemi now that I didn’t know but I’m glad that I do now and that’s beautiful. The Crisis Core or Advent Children voice actors?
@rahmellbrown162
@rahmellbrown162 4 жыл бұрын
Niceeeee
@letsongakemi
@letsongakemi 4 жыл бұрын
@@logan6034 the original japanese voice actors (Maya Sakamoto and Kenichi Suzumura)
@ViktorMukhamadeev96
@ViktorMukhamadeev96 3 жыл бұрын
🥰😭😁❤️
@benn93z28
@benn93z28 3 жыл бұрын
Considering FF7R, I can say (happily) that this remains to be seen! :)
@MetalPcAngel
@MetalPcAngel 5 жыл бұрын
All this makes me crave for a Crisis Core for the ps4.
@MetalPcAngel
@MetalPcAngel 5 жыл бұрын
@Ayako Tami The only thing you could of done at the time - was connect your psp to the ps3 and play your CC on there but since there wasn't much love for that system feature, there wasn't much done for it's bug problems so playing anything from the Psp -> PS3 was a nightmare. I still have hope.
@truindividual
@truindividual 5 жыл бұрын
Rerelease please!!! Or on mobile
@devontejefferson6520
@devontejefferson6520 5 жыл бұрын
I really want them to add Zack Fair gameplay in the remake of ff7 especially when you go into clouds memories
@georgythegenesis
@georgythegenesis 5 жыл бұрын
If you have a PC you can emulate it using PPSSPP, runs and looks great. Great story and characters, engaging battle system, iconic ost, with lots of content and side activities
@blitzstorm1393
@blitzstorm1393 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I want them to please let Zack be playable
@Ms5000Watts
@Ms5000Watts 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s here for a refresher after finishing FF7 Remake?
@rogue1248
@rogue1248 4 жыл бұрын
Then that one scene in the remake.
@TheMotionHero
@TheMotionHero 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I was in shock from it lol
@dfallen4ngel
@dfallen4ngel 4 жыл бұрын
@@rogue1248 what scene?
@Jacob-wu3if
@Jacob-wu3if 4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna take a guess and say that Zack isn’t dead in the remake universe
@MacenW
@MacenW 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jacob-wu3if spoilers
@dialupinternet6993
@dialupinternet6993 5 жыл бұрын
While I was playing this game I was 6months pregnant with my son and still didn’t have a name for him. The story line of this game touched my heart so much I named my son after Zack. (His middle name) and surprisingly years later, I think it’s something in the name, but I see the purity and drive to do the right thing in my own child.
@Xeno_Solarus
@Xeno_Solarus Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful story. Puts a tear to me eye.
@Trayumongus
@Trayumongus 5 жыл бұрын
That game and story literally broke me, he was good for the sake of being good, it is rare that you find that these days, even in games...and yes although you know it's coming...it breaks the heart when he passes at the end.
@darKILLusionnn
@darKILLusionnn 5 жыл бұрын
It did not literally break you.
@angelito2336
@angelito2336 4 жыл бұрын
@@NuevoExistence Go fuck yourself. :)
@azuredragoon4880
@azuredragoon4880 4 жыл бұрын
Captain Mcdoodles Go fuck yourself.. :)
@ThePhoenixProduction
@ThePhoenixProduction 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelito2336 Fuck you bitch
@leukemiadubs1258
@leukemiadubs1258 4 жыл бұрын
😖😭😭😭love him so much
@MrTubeStuck
@MrTubeStuck 4 жыл бұрын
I remember fighting the Shinra army for around 20 minutes hoping against hope that somehow there is a way out. When I realized this was "it" I started really crying as I got so attached to Zack. I wanted take him to new dreams, I wanted him to meet Aerith, I wanted a fairy tale ending for him. As his memories started to fade, I remember asking "Why?" then the music rolled in it was titled "Why"... The writers knew how attached people would get to Zack, they knew how powerful his story is and when everything had to play out they left a great song to embody the question everyone wanted to ask.
@minmeena
@minmeena 10 ай бұрын
Felt. Love this man. Honestly gotta be one of my favorite characters of all time
@kyleblackburne2870
@kyleblackburne2870 5 жыл бұрын
Zack’s last stand! I swear that is the one and only time i have ever cried playing a game. It was Tifa for the gondola ride every time after that. I’m not making moves on Zack’s girl haha
@emmacarter3906
@emmacarter3906 4 жыл бұрын
Now listen here, I was riding aeris on the gondola way before anybody told me zack was slapping it so I take no responsibility for my actions!
@lahtonwolfgramm637
@lahtonwolfgramm637 5 жыл бұрын
The ending of Crisis Core still hits me in the FEELS!
@withoutname9575
@withoutname9575 4 жыл бұрын
You won't forget him
@atomicfart6830
@atomicfart6830 4 жыл бұрын
You’ll probably gonna see it again in the new remake
@withoutname9575
@withoutname9575 4 жыл бұрын
@@atomicfart6830 I wish square enix won't ruins LOL They are change some dialogue LOL
@aiveeloveskopi
@aiveeloveskopi 4 жыл бұрын
Bitch same 😭😭😭
@gothikamorbid000
@gothikamorbid000 4 жыл бұрын
It does!
@Senjukoten
@Senjukoten 5 жыл бұрын
The first time I finished Crisis Core I legitimetly cried for an hour. And each time I thought about it I cried. I didn't knew he was going to die, I knew he wasn't in FF7 but not why. To this day, each time I hear "Price of freedom" or "Why" songs or just see the "Hey, would you say I became a hero" sentence, I immediatly have tears in my eyes. That game shattered my heart xD. I hope they'll remake it one day because it's really worh it.
@joshmazany1590
@joshmazany1590 4 жыл бұрын
It shows his death in ff7 tho
@Christopher-wg6ug
@Christopher-wg6ug 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshmazany1590 yeah but it was easily missable
@georgelongcoal1117
@georgelongcoal1117 3 жыл бұрын
Well, wish granted in FF7R, but know what I think? He will die a worse death. One more gruelling. I hope it doesnt happen. But it might.
@kanemccarthy1979
@kanemccarthy1979 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshmazany1590 yeah but that was an optional cutscene
@zeruh6
@zeruh6 2 жыл бұрын
Good new mah boi. Your wish came true
@karissycloud1883
@karissycloud1883 5 жыл бұрын
My heart, ripped from me once again
@shinozukashu7452
@shinozukashu7452 4 жыл бұрын
*Nods in teary agreement.*
@jessiemajeskie8821
@jessiemajeskie8821 5 жыл бұрын
Sephiroth: permission to return granted. Go protect Aerith. Also Sephiroth: Lol nvm im killin this bish.
@edalmirneto4246
@edalmirneto4246 4 жыл бұрын
I think the same
@anomalyearth8437
@anomalyearth8437 4 жыл бұрын
it was jenova tho, the real sephiroth was still in north crater
@edalmirneto4246
@edalmirneto4246 4 жыл бұрын
@@anomalyearth8437 no, this is the true Seph, the original is a motafuca
@anomalyearth8437
@anomalyearth8437 4 жыл бұрын
@@edalmirneto4246 i meant the one who killed aerith was jenova in sephiroth form
@xISparkzy
@xISparkzy 4 жыл бұрын
@@anomalyearth8437 I believe it's implied somewhere sephiroth was controlling jenova so
@plutonium120
@plutonium120 4 жыл бұрын
when a VIDEO GAME has to ability to bring it's players to their knees by the death of a character, break them down to unprecedented tears, even the most stoic of them, you know it's onto something real. very deep and real.
@Whatsdogpee
@Whatsdogpee 5 жыл бұрын
"Embrace your dreams, and protect your honor...as SOLDIER. ... Okay, so you never made SOLDIER...but it's what's in here that counts." Haha, encouraging indeed Zack. XD
@titoarcheins9357
@titoarcheins9357 4 жыл бұрын
quote from advent children :(
@killblom3969
@killblom3969 3 жыл бұрын
COME AND GET IT!
@jeffbrownstain
@jeffbrownstain 5 жыл бұрын
Crisis Core is the only FF game I completed start to finish, and it took me ages to kill the final form of Genesis, as well as literally over a 100 replays. The second time I ran through the game he went down easy though. Zack is probably the best character to ever exist in any media franchise. He's so likeable and unique, yet you can easily project yourself onto him like you can with more basic and less-emotive characters. His ending is a tragedy and I'll probably never cry as much as I did at the end of Crisis Core.
@ZxChrono
@ZxChrono 5 жыл бұрын
Zack has a very generic personality so nothing special to go on about that hasn’t been explored in other games before. Just usually in other games his character type doesn’t end with tragedy.
@xero9ravity150
@xero9ravity150 5 жыл бұрын
@@ZxChrono someone's salty 😂
@Gizziation
@Gizziation 5 жыл бұрын
Genesis is easy compared to Minerva
@scrappgangkodie2342
@scrappgangkodie2342 5 жыл бұрын
ZxChrono salty bih
@oelahcef4569
@oelahcef4569 5 жыл бұрын
His ending was funny and cringy tbh.. shot multiple times close range and yet still talks about legacy and honor hahaha
@roserichards1460
@roserichards1460 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda have to share the story of my first play through of Crisis Core now. When I started the game my first thought was "Cool now I get to check out more of Zack's story." Being the FF7 fan that I am and having seen both Advent Childern and Last Order, as well as having played Derge of Cerburs. I was hyped to see the relationship of Cloud, Zack and Sephiroth and the origins of Genesis. I was also a huge Gackt fan at the time. No where in my head was the thought "Oh Zack is going to die in the end." So I played this game absolutely enthralled by this story of a puppy who's dream is to be a hero, then Nebihiem happened and then the final fight with Genesis. Then as Zack is riding in the truck with Cloud it clicked. With a horrible twist of pain my heart broke into thousands of pieces. "Oh no he's going to die..." Here's this wonderful puppy of a person that I've come to love and aspire to be like, and I'm about to watch him die. The sorrow hung on me like the heaviest chains as I desperately fought with every single once of skill I had developed. My best spells my best items I held nothing back and I had to watch as Zack's life flashed before my eyes and the memories of his friends disappeared. Tears streamed from my eyes uncontrollably and then when Cloud let loose that scream of anguish my soul shattered. I cried the ugliest cry while listening to Why and I just cried and cried and cried. Eventually my mom found me on the couch from where I had cried myself to the point of exhaustion and passed out. Well there it is. The short version of my first play through of Crisis Core. It still a very emotional game and to this day when I just need to cry and I can't I listen to the "Price of Freedom". It gets me every time. I'm going to go cry now. Take care folks. I want add something else. To answer his final question. "Would you say I became a hero?" You're definitely mine Zack.
@The66Hammer
@The66Hammer 4 жыл бұрын
I just had to rewatch the ending, and even though it has been 10 years or something, I cried like it it just happend yesterday. The story telling through game mechanics was just so powerfull, I cant think of a game other than maybe Brothers: A Tale of two sons that did it that well.
@GriffinheartPlays
@GriffinheartPlays 5 жыл бұрын
Zack was my inspiration, his attitude, how he deals with situations, his sense of right, honor, and Justice... I wanna be that someday
@scarecrowvikingstar8361
@scarecrowvikingstar8361 5 жыл бұрын
Griffinheart Me too...
@GriffinheartPlays
@GriffinheartPlays 5 жыл бұрын
@@scarecrowvikingstar8361 Well, all we can do is carry on, to keep dreaming and never let go of it till the end like what he did
@scarecrowvikingstar8361
@scarecrowvikingstar8361 5 жыл бұрын
Griffinheart Thanks.
@GriffinheartPlays
@GriffinheartPlays 5 жыл бұрын
@@scarecrowvikingstar8361 Well, thank you too for reading it ^-^
@zeroswagg3809
@zeroswagg3809 5 жыл бұрын
THE REAL HERO. THE GREATEST FIRST CLASS SOLDIER OF ALL TIME
@xenogears7997
@xenogears7997 3 жыл бұрын
He's trash and did litearally nothing relevant. he's dead loser.
@Rebelnorth
@Rebelnorth 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry man, Cloud is still top dog.
@lucasjericho8522
@lucasjericho8522 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Cloud is strong because the comrade he had helping him in his journey while zack completely alone in his journey and zack's comrades were nothing but burden on him. Whereas cloud, the comrades he had were very helpful. Zack was fighting alone, while cloud wasnt. Zack fought his own mentor and his hero, cloud didnt. Nothing but truth you said bro.
@zeroswagg3809
@zeroswagg3809 3 жыл бұрын
Well if these people don’t believe that Zack is the greatest soldier then you didn’t play Crisis Core the right way.
@kanemccarthy1979
@kanemccarthy1979 3 жыл бұрын
@@xenogears7997 he saved cloud and the only reason cloud was ever as powerful as he is is because he gained zack's abilities from the experiments
@noorabbas706
@noorabbas706 4 жыл бұрын
All Zack wanted to do was see Aerith. i'm tearing up
@insaneoflex01
@insaneoflex01 3 жыл бұрын
Zack is the hero that cloud wanted to be, but ends up a failure. Cloud believes himself a failure, but is the hero everyone needed.
@1989elandy
@1989elandy 3 жыл бұрын
Zack was not a hero he was shinra's tool and a murderer. And then he got killed bu shinra grunts...
@MorganSaph
@MorganSaph Жыл бұрын
​@@1989elandy No, he wasn't a murderer, every single person he killed was armed and trained to kill. You don't call soldiers murderers for killing other soldiers in war. But yes, like 99% of the people Shinra fools, he was their tool. And he didn't die to grunts, he died to an entire trained elite army that had heavy ordinance at their disposal. He was a 1st Class SOLDIER and was treated as dangerous as Sephiroth. He was literally the only FF character to fight an army, by himself, and almost win. All other FF characters can die to just a handful of people. Zack would have won too, if Cloud recovered like a day earlier. Maybe that's what Cloud changed in the remake? He made it so Zack woke up a day earlier in the mansion or so he (Cloud) recovered sooner.
@blunts1988
@blunts1988 5 жыл бұрын
The word "Fair" has several synonyms and oh boy, doesn't he lives up to his name. If I were to describe him with one sentence, I would say that Zack is the embodiment of the word "Fair".
@leonardopablopischiutta3859
@leonardopablopischiutta3859 5 жыл бұрын
And Cloud is strife
@aerisreinhardt2872
@aerisreinhardt2872 4 жыл бұрын
I downright agreed to that..Zack is so awesome! I cried at the ending...man...😭
@zeraphos5586
@zeraphos5586 4 жыл бұрын
But what Happened to him isn't
@noorabbas706
@noorabbas706 4 жыл бұрын
DONT DO THIS TO MEEEE!!!
@JZ1
@JZ1 4 жыл бұрын
But it was not “fair” for Zack and Aerith 😭
@chainedunfree727
@chainedunfree727 4 жыл бұрын
Crisis core's Zack Fair made me want to do body weight squats as a kid. I'm thankful for that because it developed my thighs and I don't tire easily when I take long walks
@A3rel1s
@A3rel1s 3 жыл бұрын
It's so fun to think that I met Zack Fair first before Cloud Strife.
@saraclifford769
@saraclifford769 4 жыл бұрын
My son was named after Zack Fair, although I spelt it differently. Shows how much of an impact that the game and character had on me.
@arbetor12
@arbetor12 3 жыл бұрын
Zack Fare Clifford?
@frozenpancakes
@frozenpancakes 3 жыл бұрын
Zak Fayre?
@ltb1345
@ltb1345 2 жыл бұрын
ZACC
@moonlight1393
@moonlight1393 4 жыл бұрын
I love Crisis Core! And I think you were spot on saying about how the villains were humanized in this game. Me and my friend were playing the game together and we were literally gushing over just how cool and LIKEABLE they made Sephiroth. I mean, playing this game you could actually understand exactly how Sepiroth became such a popular hero to the people. It wasn't just Shinra propaganda, it was also Sephiroth's actual personality that helped to propel him into people's hearts. Also, Zack's characterization is just too great. I still love the scene were he meets the younger Yuffie. She jumps out of the bushes with her "surpirse attack" and Zack is just standing there going "the hell?" before realizing that he has to play dead with her and he just literally falls over in the cheapest and most dramatic way. And its all the best. That's still one of my favorite scenes in the game.
@ColinBennettTaarn01
@ColinBennettTaarn01 5 жыл бұрын
I hate how Zack dies. You know it happens when you played Crisis Core but you still hate it.
@TheKnizzine
@TheKnizzine 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty badass fights off an entire battalion just trying to protect cloud and see Arith again even if he didn't never gave up hope
@evavelasco1823
@evavelasco1823 5 жыл бұрын
I knew how it was going to end and I still cried. 😥
@CrazyLurker
@CrazyLurker 5 жыл бұрын
My first introduction to FF was Crisis Core, and i was going blind. So i didnt know that Zack will end up dead... i cried hard
@Ghost7065
@Ghost7065 5 жыл бұрын
I do too. cause he die a virgin (I think)
@zenothtri4504
@zenothtri4504 4 жыл бұрын
Hint watch the ff7 remake ending
@lobstrosity7163
@lobstrosity7163 5 жыл бұрын
He's pretty fun in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. A younger version of himself training at Hercules' colosseum to become a hero. He also vigorously hits on Aqua, one of the three protagonists. Completely justifiable as she's best waifu of course.
@da_hitmanhart6650
@da_hitmanhart6650 3 жыл бұрын
Zack *DEFINITELY* means a hell of a lot to me. I have so much respect for the character.
@Waas
@Waas 3 жыл бұрын
Zack deserved better. But now that the Remake is out and the changes that have been made are made, we might get to finally see the better that he deserved.
@elizabeth4689
@elizabeth4689 3 жыл бұрын
the tragedy of zack and aerith is what makes the ff7 anthology so amazing to me.... no fantasy world has ever told a story of love and brotherhood so heartbreaking in world so rich with its own lore, culture and magic.
@marxistrockstar
@marxistrockstar 3 жыл бұрын
Zack is THE legend. The character development is real. A decade on, Crisis Core story is still fresh in my mind. Thanks for this video
@jamarugaming9018
@jamarugaming9018 5 жыл бұрын
Zack will always be my favorite hero. I loved everything he stood for and his personality. Embrace your dreams. Thank you Zack.
@M_Alexander
@M_Alexander 4 жыл бұрын
Zack: Follow your dreams! Cloud: I'll follow YOUR dreams.
@DarkShuyin
@DarkShuyin 5 жыл бұрын
Having the fact this guy is coming to NT in the back of my mind makes this all even better.
@Ra18SJ
@Ra18SJ 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think they will put him because he and Cloud will have the same combat moves. Maybe they will put as a custome for Cloud
@DarkShuyin
@DarkShuyin 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ra18SJ he's already confirmed to be in ;)
@eddiemull311
@eddiemull311 5 жыл бұрын
He's available for Dissidia opera omnia. He's confirmed for NT too?!
@DarkShuyin
@DarkShuyin 5 жыл бұрын
@@eddiemull311 he was found in the datamine of the game along with Vivi. It's how we we were able to predict the season pass characters
@cypheraine17
@cypheraine17 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ra18SJ Anyone who hasn't played Crisis Core would say he'll just play like Cloud.
@tullock13
@tullock13 5 жыл бұрын
Reminded me how great Crisis Core was. Too bad Square-Enix act like it never existed. Just think of the potential they have with their other characters. Yuna, Cloud, Lightning and the bunch all sell but that's not the only way to do fan service. Crisis Core is one example... Again, untapped markets. Oh yeah and a video on Gabranth/Basch should do well!
@capricola8682
@capricola8682 5 жыл бұрын
The Red Ace because SE probably realized that how much perversion of the original caused by the compilation in the name of over dramatization. Besides, if a side character can topple the main protagonist from popularity, it means that it's gonna be bad for business. Millenials started to forget that Cloud is the face of ff7 instead of Zack.
@tullock13
@tullock13 5 жыл бұрын
@@capricola8682 Okay that was badly typed and barely made sense. Even so, if you're saying what I think you're saying, that makes even less sense. Think more Gackt and story plotholes are reasons. No one at the company is so fanboyish over Cloud that they'll run from money. Vincent got his own game before Zack so you telling me they want us to forget Vincent in hopes he doesn't become more popular? Cloud is going to be the main character again in the remake and Zack being Dissidia dlc soon isn't going to make ppl forget they like Cloud. Personally though, I wish Zack would get higher billing. He's a lot more interesting, dynamic, and highly under utilized in relation to his popularity.
@PersephoneDaSilva
@PersephoneDaSilva 4 жыл бұрын
They haven't remade it or whatever because they're having issues with Genesis' model Gackt Camui.
@lpgilber
@lpgilber 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. I personally want to see more of the characters from Crisis Core. I really enjoyed them.
@kcluna2187
@kcluna2187 3 жыл бұрын
Act like never existed? The Remake says hi.
@charyxard5086
@charyxard5086 4 жыл бұрын
Zack is the best character. No doubts for me he's a true hero and an inspiration at the same time he died with a smile on his face. That's something meaningful for me.
@kris_creations1338
@kris_creations1338 3 жыл бұрын
I got into the series because of the hype of FFVIIR, then I was curious why everyone was freaking out over someone named “Zack”, so I watched the CC cutscenes and bawled my eyes out and moved him to the top of my ultimate favorite game character list. He’s so “happy go lucky” and determined, I just don’t understand why some people don’t like him! (Outside of shipping reasons)
@mymanjohan5101
@mymanjohan5101 3 жыл бұрын
Come and get it Then dies
@mjmelo9203
@mjmelo9203 5 жыл бұрын
The *real* Hero
@Akkumako
@Akkumako 5 жыл бұрын
What?
@user-dy5dz6zi6g
@user-dy5dz6zi6g 5 жыл бұрын
So true
@ZxChrono
@ZxChrono 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree Cloud is the real hero.
@mjmelo9203
@mjmelo9203 5 жыл бұрын
@@ZxChrono Cloud is a real... joke.
@SorenDoesStuff
@SorenDoesStuff 5 жыл бұрын
@Viúvo da SEGA cloud isnt a joke plus zack may be better than cloud but cloud is relatable as a character plus all the things cloud has accomplished he killed sephiroth as a shinra infantry and that was so impressive that he was experimented on by hojo and that made cloud even more powerful making him almost as strong as zack and when zack died cloud continued zacks legacy in a way and after sephiroth killed aeris cloud was determined to kill sephiroth and once advent children happens cloud changes and thats a relistic character trait because cloud did everything life had to offer he has nothing else to go for and he even gave up the buster sword so he can use it as a memorial to zack so cloud isnt as much of a joke that you portray him as
@BigBoss-gb4cx
@BigBoss-gb4cx 4 жыл бұрын
Compared to Cloud and pretty much any other FF character Zack was dinamic; he did have a HUGE character development during Crisis Core. He went from a naive kid to a good fighter to someone who was put in a tragic situation and did everything in his power to overcome it. That's why he will always be my #1 FF protagonist.
@1989elandy
@1989elandy 3 жыл бұрын
Lol what? He has no character development. He went from young Soldier 2nd into a Soldier 1st and... that's it.. Yeah I failed to see this “character development” as it was so insignificant. He has no real past, background, motivation (outside of being a hero for whatever reason). Admittedly I still liked him, unlike Genesis, but they are very close in the one dimensional thing.
@bradgrigsby1653
@bradgrigsby1653 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite video game character ever. I know you guys will make a great video!
@zacatkinson3926
@zacatkinson3926 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@julifan6811
@julifan6811 4 жыл бұрын
We all have already try to powered up zack as much as possible with hope that he will survive the ambush, but every time we tried, no matter how long we hold. The end is the same. Man, I just want him to live.
@dashadow231
@dashadow231 4 жыл бұрын
He lives
@devontejefferson6520
@devontejefferson6520 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope they expand the Zack Fair scenes in the Final Fantasy 7 Remake and I honestly hope we get to play as him they said they’d expand on some of the parts
@franciscolorena7609
@franciscolorena7609 4 жыл бұрын
I mean... u got it i guess?
@devontejefferson6520
@devontejefferson6520 4 жыл бұрын
Francisco Lorena lol I guess I did not gonna lie the game is fantastic yes the ending is straight out of KH but I’m not bothered by it the only the things that MUST to stay the same is Aerith’s death Cloud and Tifas coma journey and Zacks death while that may have been altered or something it doesn’t mean he’s alive in wherever they’re at and his impact on Clouds life
@Ethonra
@Ethonra 5 жыл бұрын
WARNING-Long comment. Read at your own risk. Crisis Core is a very special game to me. I loved it. The characters, gameplay, and of course, the ost. Did everything, even fought "that" Boss. I was very young when FFVII came out, never heard of Zack. So I got CC much later to get a wider understanding. I knew Cloud had the Buster Sword but I thought Zack simply passed it down (guess he did in a way...) or disappeared and Cloud took it or something! So in Zack's final stand, I was breathless. The Price of Freedom playing, the DMW breaking down symbolically (btw he wasn't "forgetting his friends", his life was literally flashing before his eyes, the DMW breaking down symbolized that and the figures turning white is his mind going blank i.e. heading towards the light but his memories of Aerith are what kept him hanging on) and Zack's hopeless situation. The ending's ost simply titled Why and Zack's finally line is the closest I've ever come to crying over a game. Fun fact-if you kill enough infantry/survive Zack's final stand long enough, Zack will strike a special, victory-esque pose. Long story short-I love Zack. Thanks for reading! P.S.-Zack and Aerith forever. ❤️❤ ️kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHrMhWOhmqxon7M
@Ethonra
@Ethonra 5 жыл бұрын
@RoguelikeMike Lol well given some people see that Read More part and immediately go, "Too long. Skip!" and the risk of them leaving a comment, despite not reading it and getting mad at me over something stupid, I had to issue a fair warning. I'm glad your friend got you into FF! He chose wisely. And yes, Tidus' end was definitely something special. Especially the high five! 😉...or low five or whatever you'd call it! It was nice to see Tidus make peace with his father.
@Ikatsu-hs
@Ikatsu-hs 5 жыл бұрын
Hell I bought a PSP only to play this game (and it was indeed the only one that I played on it), I finished it many times with the continue++ and I've even watched those huge compilations of 'all the cinematic videos' you can find everywhere on youtube. Excelent game, amazing story, I can't wait to see what they do of it on the remake of FF7
@Ethonra
@Ethonra 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ikatsu-hs Yes I agree. But I believe they said because of the ps1's obvious limitations, they could not really tell ff7 the way they wanted so expect some changes. Hopefully nothing lore breaking...
@strawhatbluedog6175
@strawhatbluedog6175 5 жыл бұрын
They did Tidus so bogus. That weird audio sequel thing made me hate Yuna. FFX-2 was one of the last games to come out where you couldn't find spoilers even if you wanted to. I put 200+ hours in that game to see the good ending. That "Sequel" is one of the biggest middle fingers square has given us, imo. And they've given us plenty over the years. When it first came out it seemed like it was setting up a 3rd part. Pretty safe to assume that's not the case now lol
@Ethonra
@Ethonra 5 жыл бұрын
@@strawhatbluedog6175 Unfortunately, I can't say. Never played X2. Only heard things.
@xxxfairycorpsexxx7592
@xxxfairycorpsexxx7592 4 жыл бұрын
"Me? Gongaga :D"
@thomateish
@thomateish 4 жыл бұрын
Zack, teaching us all what’s a hero
@neppingofneps7406
@neppingofneps7406 5 жыл бұрын
"Is this someone's grave?" "No... This is where a hero, began his journy."
@Projecthypocrisy
@Projecthypocrisy 4 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭
@cypheraine17
@cypheraine17 5 жыл бұрын
My boxes of tissues are ready.
@user-sb7br1tk1r
@user-sb7br1tk1r 4 жыл бұрын
he lived in the remake
@logan6034
@logan6034 4 жыл бұрын
And so is the lotion 😏
@ajimit8669
@ajimit8669 4 жыл бұрын
That Buster Sword may be cursed: The owner before, Zack, dead The owner before before, Angeal, dead Luckily, Cloud quickly changed his weapon into Fusion Sword in Advent Children
@jguzman754
@jguzman754 5 жыл бұрын
Zack Fair gets added to Dissidia Omnia Opera and now a FF Origins Zack video gets added to KZbin.
@bryanmendoza2696
@bryanmendoza2696 5 жыл бұрын
The Gooseman I took me two days to max zacks lvl
@qwerty6789x
@qwerty6789x 5 жыл бұрын
my manly tears filling my eyes. i still remember the Crisis core ending with Zack Dying.. thanks for this video. huwaaaahhh
@SafetyRey
@SafetyRey 5 жыл бұрын
Oh Zack, we hardly knew you.
@giovanbisbal2706
@giovanbisbal2706 4 жыл бұрын
Trifortay lol nice one
@caitlinbrewer4843
@caitlinbrewer4843 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait WAIT! Your telling me they basically made fanfiction of THEIR OWN CHARACTER and then got to make it canon? Awesome.
@ZacklFair
@ZacklFair 5 жыл бұрын
Man, my life was quiet a Journey. See you all in the lifestream.
@lucent0carsr
@lucent0carsr 4 жыл бұрын
It has been 13 years since I played Crisis Core and every time I see Zack on the screen, I get choked up and teary-eyed as his last stand pops into my mind.
@bloodydmgkills7326
@bloodydmgkills7326 2 жыл бұрын
I played crisis core before 7 and didn’t know what I was getting into . I was so sad at that final fight . In the end I grew to know Zack first before I got to know Cloud.
@demi-fiendoftime3825
@demi-fiendoftime3825 5 жыл бұрын
The ending makes me bawl my eyes out everytime even at level 99 as I desprately try to defeat the endless waves of grunts comeing at Zack hopeing to change his fate the outcome is still the same and I brakes me inside everytime as I feel like I'm loseing a close friend as he dies.
@shinozukashu7452
@shinozukashu7452 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not crying! You're crying!.... I think I need a hug. This opened up an old emotional wound, I played Crisis Core almost immediately after release due to being a really huge FF fan and I have no doubt in my heart that Zack Fair is and will forever be my favorite Final Fantasy Character..... So please let me use my 60 Phoenix downs......
@CoopMy
@CoopMy 4 жыл бұрын
Zack is my favorite character of all time, in any peace of art. You did him real justice in this video of his life and you earned yourself a sub from me for that. Thank you for making such a wonderful video like this, I can't wait to see what else you guys do.
@kevindasbach8578
@kevindasbach8578 3 жыл бұрын
Such an incredible character. Pure of ideal but ultimately pragmatic in his choices. Strong enough to beat most anyone, but empathetic enough to want to understand them before resorting to violence. A humble and loyal student, as well as a wise and caring teacher. I really have never felt so connected to a protagonist. I didn’t even know who he was really when I started the game (like most everyone) but by the end I was left thinking that he is the true protagonist of the FF7 universe. Cloud carries on his legacy, but the legacy began with Zach Fair.
@Zyanaster
@Zyanaster 4 жыл бұрын
“Feel the burn!” I still say that when I work out lol. And I’m 25 now, I was such a young kid then. I feel love with this character and it tore me a new one.
@udert4keronline281
@udert4keronline281 5 жыл бұрын
It would be nice zacks story as a dlc or something for ff7 remaster
@BigBoss-gb4cx
@BigBoss-gb4cx 4 жыл бұрын
It's a 30 hours long game.... Same length as the new FF Vii (part 1/4) remake.... So they can't just make it as a dlc and they shouldn't
@f.s.967
@f.s.967 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigBoss-gb4cx maybe they make it as one of the parts when cloud recalls his memories
@BigBoss-gb4cx
@BigBoss-gb4cx 4 жыл бұрын
@@f.s.967 If the next game will be as long as this one it will take 4 games to complete the whole FF VII storyline... Not to mention if they want to develop the story further and give extra content. Remaking Crisis Core will make it to 5 games or even more with the other FF VII contents...
@franklindelacruz4376
@franklindelacruz4376 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigBoss-gb4cx Probably not 4 games anymore since we found out how powerful the new Xbox and ps5 are going to be. The rest of the story should fit in one more game.
@vita-dolce-moderato
@vita-dolce-moderato 4 жыл бұрын
Time to play Remake til the end, and hope for the best in the next part...
@ishianti
@ishianti 4 жыл бұрын
He was such an inspiring figure. Zack was my favorite FF7 character. I even named my son Zack!
@Error-xk6we
@Error-xk6we 5 жыл бұрын
The Buster Sword is a form a great legacy and heirloom, Angeal kept it as a gift from his step father as a symbol of honor. After Zack killed Angeal to stop his clones and Genesis from creating havoc around the world. Zack obtained the Buster Sword not as a reward, but as a heirloom. Zack respected Angeal's words of "Use brings about wear, tear, and rust and that's a real whaste", as the line of dialouge "Use usually brings wear, tear, and rust that's why I usually hit things with the blunt side". As Zack had to sacrafice himself he gave the Buster Sword to Cloud, Cloud although not knowing he used the sword without any worry about the words Angeal has said he did soon respect the Buster Sword as a heirloom. As seen in Advent Children, Cloud did keep the Buster Sword but in bad shape full of rust and badly worn. After the flashbacks with Aeirth/Aeris and Zack in the Complete Edition Cloud polished the sword, re built the sword, removed all rust on the sword.
@Quartza_
@Quartza_ 5 жыл бұрын
Yahhhh the sword is the huge symbol in ffvii. Most people will recognise the sword because it's a heirloom by Angel to Zack to Cloud and Cloud as living legacy of Zack
@iMattDoStuff
@iMattDoStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Zack will forever be my favorite Final Fantasy character.
@MrJoeinabox
@MrJoeinabox 4 жыл бұрын
This makes complete sense to me why they brought him back now in FF7 remake
@missinvisible7314
@missinvisible7314 5 жыл бұрын
Zack Fair will forever be my hero
@aerisreinhardt2872
@aerisreinhardt2872 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!😊
@tony_cgivfx
@tony_cgivfx 5 жыл бұрын
Zack you deserved a much better life, I wish you could have escaped. RIP. :(
@fromthedlek1295
@fromthedlek1295 4 жыл бұрын
Play the remake ahahahah
@htcdedited2425
@htcdedited2425 4 жыл бұрын
Remake: *Sh*t thats all you gotta say*
@metaphangmc
@metaphangmc 5 жыл бұрын
Zack's story gives me the feels like no other
@glun-murong1112
@glun-murong1112 3 жыл бұрын
The dude that took zack down and shot him in the head multiple times need something thougher than hell,DO YOU REALISE HOW MUCH ZACK MEAN TO US???? DAMN IT IM GONNA CRY AGAIN!!
@Chukairi
@Chukairi 5 жыл бұрын
The way he left Areith makes me so sad. His determination, and how we all struggle to play Crisis Core makes it that much better. Hes the best.
@solitaregames
@solitaregames 5 жыл бұрын
I am proud to say that I am one of Zack's original fans. Before he was even known, when he was just a shadow in the back and no one knew who the heck was him... I always been his fan. The one true SOLDIER owner of the Buster Sword... I even used him with "God Bless The Ring: Ehrngeiz"
@billcomstock835
@billcomstock835 5 жыл бұрын
Crisis Core was brilliant. My #1 PSP game. I need to replay after watching this. Thanks for reminding me how rad Zack is.
@maxibumbar8475
@maxibumbar8475 4 жыл бұрын
I Played This Game 99 Times. And I Am Proud Of It. Also my brother then startet to play this game and save over my savefile. Tragic :D I just love this game so much. Everytime I hear something about it I instantly get Goosebumps. Funny how a PsP Game influenced my life :D
@helly.Jelly787
@helly.Jelly787 5 жыл бұрын
Whose ready to cry 😭
@RenHeng_canon
@RenHeng_canon 5 жыл бұрын
I will never forget Zack Fair. ❤
@Firestar1992
@Firestar1992 3 жыл бұрын
Crisis Core was my first Final Fantasy game. I knew the absolute barebones basics of 7’s story, little more than the names of the characters and that Aerith and Zack had died. I think I’d watched Advent Children, but obviously hadn’t followed the plot very well. This meant that I had a fresh, clean slate with both Zack and Sephiroth. Before I had even reached the Nibelheim incident in the game, Zack had firmly won his place in my heart as my favorite video game character of all time. We get to see him literally grow up in this game. He goes from being Angeal’s student to being Cloud’s mentor, and he even goes from flirting with women in general to finding his soul mate in Aerith. But seeing him mature does not mean his personality changed. He was constantly a force of relentless positivity, and even at his low moments (mourning Angeal and becoming confused by Sephiroth) he was able to bounce back and focus on the bright side of life. He even displayed this to the very end. “The price of freedom is steep” is a line that shows how he realizes his situation is hopeless, yet he remains determined and refuses to give up. And at his death, he asks, “would you say I became a hero?” Zack means so much to me as a character that I could go on for hours. And I, for one, am glad that the remake has created an alternate timeline where he survives. If any character deserved to live and be happy, it was him.
@danjellindholm7672
@danjellindholm7672 5 жыл бұрын
Favorite series, I love how in depth you go in each video!
@FinalFantasyUnion
@FinalFantasyUnion 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words Silinii Murray! :) ~Darryl/Lauren
@StageCraftBeast
@StageCraftBeast 5 жыл бұрын
The Suite Life of Zack and Cloud
@johnnys8393
@johnnys8393 5 жыл бұрын
Crisis Core moved me in a way that no other game (or book, or movie) ever has. And I’m sure I’m not the only one. If square had any sense they would remaster it or at least flesh out some more of it in the FF7 remake. It would also be nice to see if Genesis has any personality beyond spouting that endless drivel from loveless. And to see exactly why Genesis believed that Sephiroth’s glory should have been his.
@hovinke
@hovinke 2 жыл бұрын
I was 13 when I got my PSP, never played FFVII in my life before, but I recognize cloud because he's so popular I think when the advent children came out. but I know nothing about his story. I have so many memories with this character, and we have to admit that this character is very well developed.
@sgwaris8853
@sgwaris8853 4 жыл бұрын
Zack going through 1000nd shinra fighters with same equipment and found cloud easily, wow that's awesome
@OpticalArxenal
@OpticalArxenal 4 жыл бұрын
I like Zack as a character, but the game also did a stellar job at humanizing ol' Seph.
@szweda
@szweda 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man, it's the 3rd time I've watched this now in the past few years 🤟
@Raepep23
@Raepep23 5 жыл бұрын
Yay Zack! Great video again guys ❤️ Been waiting for Zack to come up on your list. “Embrace your dreams”
@6Kubik
@6Kubik 2 жыл бұрын
His last fogjt was so heartbreaking with the slot machine that reminds us of all his friends, fighting with him. I hope that in the remake they will also adress the issue with Tseng and how his involment in all of this should be adressed.
@kiri3567
@kiri3567 4 жыл бұрын
Crisis core... Oh boy where do I even start. First of all, crisis core had an incredible soundtrack that I feel not enough people talk about. Yeah you'll hear people say that zack is an emotional and likeable character that will make you cry and all that, but to me what adds to the experience is the mother fuckin violins that play at the last stand. Like... How do you not cry when you listen to that? Thinking about those notes already wet my eyes as I am writing this. And I think that shows how great the soundtrack is. (except for the battle themes that's not the summon boss theme. Those battle themes sucked) The stage themes always had a sunny acoustic type of tone to it, reflecting the upbeat and positive type of personality zack has. And when an emotional scene comes up, the game isn't afraid of punching you in the gut with the feels. It's musical perfection, and is definitely on par with the soundtracks of nobuo uematsu and ff13 in terms of music quality. And everything that I normally would say about what zack meant to me personally, is already explained in this video. He's an innocent naive soul who wanted to be a hero, one that was exposed to the dark and twisted underbelly of the shinra corporation, yet somehow manages to remain relentlessly optimistic throughout his journey. And the best/worst part of it all, is that he is still smiling moments before his death. He is the literal definition of a strong willed person, one that had conviction and isn't afraid of sticking to it til the bitter end. Rest in peace Zack Fair. Yes, you indeed became a hero. (please come back in HD when FF7 remake comes out I really fucking miss you)
@blyth4253
@blyth4253 4 жыл бұрын
"... You just hoped that somehow you could find a way to prevent it from happening" And then, here is the ff7 remake with that last scene and... tadah! So excited for the second part!!
@JHouse151
@JHouse151 4 жыл бұрын
No-one has done more to save the planet, and has had as little recognition as Zack...he was the spark that ignited the powder keg that led to Sephiroths rise and fall...Amazing.
@vita-dolce-moderato
@vita-dolce-moderato 4 жыл бұрын
Who's here after Remake and hoping for the best in the next episode??
@silvervalentine4956
@silvervalentine4956 5 жыл бұрын
Coming in at a close 2nd after Vincent, Zack will always have that one special place in my heart. I've never played Crisis Core, but from what I've seen in the cutscenes and what he went through, of course I can't help but feel for him. RIP Zack Fair
@Xeno_Solarus
@Xeno_Solarus Жыл бұрын
Pretty certain he would jump to number one if you played Crisis Core.
@silvervalentine4956
@silvervalentine4956 Жыл бұрын
@@Xeno_Solarus I've seen others play it, but Vincent still holds that top spot.
@MysteryMedia2001
@MysteryMedia2001 2 жыл бұрын
Crisis core was my first Final Fantasy Game, and god what a way to start. I love Zack so much
@ShadowByNine
@ShadowByNine 5 жыл бұрын
Great thanks for the reminder of my play through of Crisis Core. Kept Zack going for 3 hours in that last fight thinking that there would be a change. Loved the game but still brings a tear to my eye remembering that story.
@shinozukashu7452
@shinozukashu7452 4 жыл бұрын
I.. I am crying again... Zack Fair is my absolute favorite FF Character. This game, this character, All of it makes me cry when I think back on it. I knew what was going to happen though even with the knowledge it didn't prepare me to become so attatched to him, his life, goals, ambitions, courage, love and just overall care for others. When I beat this game and Every time I replayed it I couldn't help myaelf but cry at the death of Zack Fair.
@ViktorMukhamadeev96
@ViktorMukhamadeev96 5 жыл бұрын
Even having played Crisis Core through multiple times, his death still makes me sad. He's by far my favorite Final Fantasy character. You just earned yourself a subscriber ✌ wonderful video, thank you
@chibiasta
@chibiasta 4 жыл бұрын
Love love Zack! Love love Crisis Core! I hope they remake the whole compilation... 😭
@MarshallXeno
@MarshallXeno 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, Zack what can I say? Well to start off he is my favorite game character. I could go into an explanation at how I can relate to him or how I think he is 100x better than Cloud. But I'll just say this... Zack is a true hero.
@kurkur078
@kurkur078 5 жыл бұрын
Marshall Xeno he is
@emmacarter3906
@emmacarter3906 4 жыл бұрын
Cloud>Zack not to take anything away from zack, but Cloud Came first, and kind of is/was zack untill his realisation at least
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