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Zade

Zade

Күн бұрын

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Supreme Commander is one of, if not the best RTS games of all time. And despite being relatively short lived with only two releases and one expansion, it's one of the most persistent RTSs ever, with mods, community projects, and spiritual successors constantly being created. Watch on to learn more!
Sanctuary Interview - • Finally, a true succes...
Sanctuary -www.sanctuary-... www.kickstarte... Chris Taylor Interview - • Chris Taylor lets us k...
Supreme Commander Retrospective - • Supreme Commander: Gon...
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Forged Alliance Forever - www.faforever....
Planetary Annihilation - store.steampow...
Zero-K - zero-k.info/
BAR - www.beyondallr...
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@ForgedAllianceForever
@ForgedAllianceForever 2 жыл бұрын
We Appreciate the spotlight and Constantly to drive the community and game forward with balance updates , game updates, new maps/mods , Co-op Campaign and custom missions !
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
God's workers
@sedsitametadinterreteliber2937
@sedsitametadinterreteliber2937 Жыл бұрын
Can you clean out the mods that don’t work?
@davyheijlands1956
@davyheijlands1956 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I played this game soo much gack ib the day. Def giving this a download
@nigratruo
@nigratruo Жыл бұрын
You guys rock, I'm a FAF player myself and you saved Forged Alliance and Supcom from certain death after GPGnet / gas powered games / THQ died. What I would like to respectfully request is less new features in updates for the FAF client and more stability bug fixes, FAF has gotten super unstable and I have had many crashes of disconnects to the server in the last months and it has gotten really bad, where during a game just a few people get disconnected and then the game just hangs forever, just getting into games sometimes takes forever because of connectivity problems that I know must be to the servers, because they did not happen before. Again, I love FAF and thank you guys for your hard work, it is very appreciated, it is my favorite game of all time and that is a very rare statement, as I have been probably playing about 2980 games in all my life.
@ZinfandelRed1914
@ZinfandelRed1914 2 ай бұрын
FAF ftw! You guys rule! 👍
@1987metalhead
@1987metalhead 2 жыл бұрын
The Tier 2 Cybran destroyers we so god damn cool to me. Seeing a ship sprout legs and walk on land was fascinating to me XD
@danielemarrocu2717
@danielemarrocu2717 2 жыл бұрын
ah the salem class, absolutely fantastic first time i saw it
@sniperfi4532
@sniperfi4532 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite unit. Everybody is a gangster till the boats start walking!
@tim9680
@tim9680 2 жыл бұрын
T1 bomber spam was a favorite tactic of my buddies
@TheGoodLuc
@TheGoodLuc 2 жыл бұрын
I played mostly as Aeon Illuminate, but yes.
@TheGeneReyva
@TheGeneReyva 2 жыл бұрын
Best T2 land unit, IDGAF about any other opinions.
@soulgamer612
@soulgamer612 2 жыл бұрын
Even more than a decade after its release supcom still is one of, if not THE best RTS games out there and I feel very few of its successors can actually compete with it. Here’s hoping that Sanctuary manages to get on the same level of quality and awesomeness that supcom has (it’s sure looking that way tbh)
@TheGeneReyva
@TheGeneReyva 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh. Thanks for mentioning Sanctuary. Here's hoping it can live up to SupCom, even if just a bit.
@soulgamer612
@soulgamer612 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGeneReyva i honestly think it will. Maybe not surpass Supcom, but I do think Sanctuary can achieve the same level of greatness. It already had many things other games don’t: multiple factions, lore, unique mechanics and so on.
@danieltaylor7638
@danieltaylor7638 2 жыл бұрын
It really is AoE2 is the only other rts that comes close for me
@jav1373
@jav1373 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, StarCraft 2 should also be on the list of top RTS. A different style of RTS yes, but a RTS nonetheless. Total Annihilation also has a special place in my hearth, but I can see why people would choose Supreme Commander over TA.
@mrosskne
@mrosskne 2 жыл бұрын
oh boy i wonder if this match is gonna be decided by ASF spam and strat bomber snipes, again
@TheBryceWade
@TheBryceWade 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Gyle and Jagged Appliance for creating community content.
@BAMGM
@BAMGM 2 жыл бұрын
There are dozens of other FAF content creators nowadays who might also be worth checking out!
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 2 жыл бұрын
Also BRNKofinsanity
@yashrao5269
@yashrao5269 2 жыл бұрын
even to some russian youtubers as well who kept the hype of this game
@AlexMonas
@AlexMonas 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone name a few that we can check out? Especially Pro-Level POV or Strategy content would be very interesting.
@TheBryceWade
@TheBryceWade 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexMonas checkout jaggedappliance, he foes great commentary and POV games. Zlo also does that but hes russian so you dony get the commentary as much
@PhilipZeplinDK
@PhilipZeplinDK 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being blown away when Supreme Commander first came out. The incredibly detailed order system you could do, the massive armies, nukes that felt like nukes, all the good pillars of RTS combat and base building, switching between a graphic 3rd person view map and a strategic view map (they were the first to do it!), detailed and varied units for both land, air and sea (many RTS' at the time really only had land units, and then just one or two basic flying units at most). It was such a gamechanger when it came out, and I haven't really found a game that managed to live up to it since then. It's right up there with the big classics like RA2 and StarCraft.
@thebigsteiny
@thebigsteiny 2 жыл бұрын
If my memory serves, you could play it on two monitors and have the grand map scale on one monitor, and your zoomed in view on your other. i've never seen this sort of thing since, i'm surprised more games don't do it. Ahead of its time.
@snakeman830
@snakeman830 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebigsteiny Yup. I made full use of that feature when I had two monitors.
@amorphousavocet1210
@amorphousavocet1210 2 жыл бұрын
Between this, Homeworld 3 finally about to release after 19 years since HW2, and all the new indie games inspired by Homeworld, it really seems we’re entering a new age for high tier RTS games
@warhippy6934
@warhippy6934 2 жыл бұрын
Add to that list Sins of a Solar Empire 2 has been announced as well. RTS games seem to having a bit of a renaissance.
@janreid6217
@janreid6217 2 жыл бұрын
Homeworld and Supcom, made my youth and will be on my side till I could hold a mouse anymore 😅
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 Ай бұрын
Maybe now they'll make Command and Conquer 4 too!
@TheGreenSquier
@TheGreenSquier 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game as a kid, and now I'm making tutorial videos as an adult to bring it to a new generation. Crazy how life works out sometimes!
@YaBoiBlantyre
@YaBoiBlantyre 6 ай бұрын
your tutorial videos got my friend groop into supcom
@Phantom6.6.6
@Phantom6.6.6 2 жыл бұрын
Love the supreme commander games. I got lucky and got a disk at a second hand store and it still worked like a charm
@1989ElLoco
@1989ElLoco 2 жыл бұрын
You can activate the serial in steam
@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler
@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Chris Taylor for two of you & your team's works. What a legacy. I grew up play Total Annihilation. That was the game that got me to love RTS games. Supreme Commander truly is a worthy successor to TA.
@SirChompyFace
@SirChompyFace 2 жыл бұрын
and plantary annihilation was the the successor to both with people that worked on both building it plus you can build hundreds of nukes!!!
@D_Wito
@D_Wito 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to come back to Total Annihilation from time to time I tried Supreme Commander but somehow it didn't sit with me but for me Planetary Annihilation is as great as Total Annihilation (except that it's scale sometimes overwhelms me) also somehow BEYOND ALL REASON looks to me more interesting then SANCTUARY
@EsportsStoryteller
@EsportsStoryteller 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few RTS that was severely underestimated and now it seems like one of the games I could play for days, just brilliant ideas and great game design & mechanics! The only issue with SC:FAF multiplayer is that it's not optimized for modern PC and it slows down significantly in the lategame. :( Also, too bad the sequel ruined everything
@mgmoebius
@mgmoebius 2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't tried SC:FAF recently, the devs put a bunch of work into optimizing the game - giant air battles no longer slow the game to excruciating levels. :D
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it does, if you're only playing co op against AI then LOUD is definitely the way to go. Rip Sc2, good game, bad sequel
@icyknightmare4592
@icyknightmare4592 2 жыл бұрын
That's not as true as it was a few years ago. These days you're unlikely to encounter much slowdown at all unless you're playing big team games ( > 4v4) or hardcore turtle maps. Combined with the fairly recent updates mgmoebius mentions, the game runs great from 1v1 to 4v4 in 2022.
@nicolinrucker5181
@nicolinrucker5181 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zade_95 I actually got SupCom2 on Steam and came to the conclusion "if this was named something else and had just Cybran and UEF it'd be a good game"... They did kind of utterly butcher the Aeon though so I can't honestly say I LIKE the game, it's occasionally fun for a bit though.
@tatsuuuuuu
@tatsuuuuuu 2 жыл бұрын
a big strong suit of Sanctuary is that contrary to SC:FAF, it's 64bit, fully multi-threaded and also not capped (and sim-synced to) 60 FPS
@SirArtanis7
@SirArtanis7 2 жыл бұрын
Actually realized yesterday that there's a lot more RTSs coming our than I thought. I can't wait for all of them
@soulgamer612
@soulgamer612 2 жыл бұрын
Homeworld 3, Tempest Rising, Falling Frontiers, Sanctuary… The future for RTS is looking bright
@seanblackwood8382
@seanblackwood8382 2 жыл бұрын
HOMEWORLD III is all I'm gonna say. a good year to come after years of drought.
@Hyde-dg7ef
@Hyde-dg7ef 2 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Vetter what's doa?
@Pyro-Moloch
@Pyro-Moloch 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I *can* wait for all of them
@Pyro-Moloch
@Pyro-Moloch 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyde-dg7ef dead or alive
@OneBiasedOpinion
@OneBiasedOpinion 2 жыл бұрын
C&C Kane’s Wrath, C&C Red Alert 2 Yuri’s Revenge, and SupCom Forged Alliance continue to be beloved and supported entirely by the fans who play them. Kane’s Wrath still has paying tournaments going on as well! Just goes to show that these games truly were made to a high standard of quality and with a lot of love.
@ArtifexArdens
@ArtifexArdens Жыл бұрын
Same applies to Command & Conquer Generals Zero Hour.
@Paladin1034
@Paladin1034 Жыл бұрын
Tack on Dawn of War 1. All of those were juggernauts of RTS that will never die. Starcraft 2 is probably the longest lived just in active support from the devs, but the others all have communities that have kept them alive for many years post-launch.
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 Ай бұрын
I have to shout out Empire At War, because the modders have been so hard at work for so many years that two years ago, *fifteen years post launch,* the developers released a new patch for it with performance optimizations and more importantly opening up a ton more to modders.
@Glibbers
@Glibbers 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I didn't even know about LOUD. That sounds too good to be true, I am gonna check it out! Great video. Also, play BAR. It's great. PS. Notice how good strategy games are not StarCraft clones made for esports. Makes you think.
@knightofvirtue613
@knightofvirtue613 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. While I enjoy SC2, it's ridiculous when it comes to input requirements. I've always enjoyed the pace of SupCom, and B.A.R. has the same type of pace. You need a force of at least 50 units to move against a base, with another 50 to reinforce the push
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
Yes LOUD is awesome. It was kind of the inspiration (along with sanctuary) to make this vid. I only learnt about it recently ish too. Can't recommend it enough after playing it coop!
@Ovolukzzz
@Ovolukzzz 2 жыл бұрын
what is LOUD?
@eternity6350
@eternity6350 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to let you know that LOUD changes a lot about the game, you can try the m27 AI for FAF if you want a more vanilla experience.
@sety5591
@sety5591 2 жыл бұрын
eSports games need to be deterministic. Total Annihilation is in contrast is too chaotic compared to Starcraft, eg: game can be really short or too long like one can com-nap enemy commander and end it quickly or one can turtle and play till game lag.
@imben77
@imben77 2 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia overload! I remember being blown away by the fact this game had full on dual monitor support! I only recall having a full screen map but other options could have been available.
@alfredmarcos1761
@alfredmarcos1761 2 жыл бұрын
SC and Homeworld were way ahead of their time, truly masterpieces in their own right.
@chrisb2942
@chrisb2942 2 жыл бұрын
StarCraft? D:
@achilleonv
@achilleonv 2 жыл бұрын
SC was a successor to Total Annihilation. You should go back and play TA.
@chrisb2942
@chrisb2942 2 жыл бұрын
@@achilleonv Oh I have played a lot of TA back then but what has that to do with my question? I find it just weird in a RTS scene to use SC as Supreme Commander, that's it. And no, it's far far away from being the best RTS ever. Far. It's fun though.
@alucardlord9032
@alucardlord9032 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the graphics of SC2 specially in ultra, its smooth to the eyes and its way more better than this upcoming RTS games
@cagin5
@cagin5 2 жыл бұрын
Add Battlezone 2.
@tim9680
@tim9680 2 жыл бұрын
I played FaF with my friend when he was first introducing me to rts games and man I still haven't found another rts as fun and entertaining as forged alliance
@THExRISER
@THExRISER 2 жыл бұрын
This video makes me so happy, got into SupCom in highschool around 5 years ago, was sad to how see small the community was (regardless of how dedicated it was), and how dead the genre I grew up with became, so seeing both of them making a comeback does make me excited to see what's to come, maybe I'll re-install the game and try getting my ass kicked in FAF again.
@LolixLP
@LolixLP Жыл бұрын
Something a lot of people tend to forget: even for a complete casual it was possible to compete against most players in a match of Supreme Commander, its an incredibly friendly game to all players willing to play an rts somewhat seriously
@jamaly77
@jamaly77 2 жыл бұрын
FAF recently had a great performance update! Just awesome what these guys are doing :)
@AFoulXzeno
@AFoulXzeno 6 ай бұрын
Everyone says how BAR is so great and it's reviving the supreme commander/TA niche but BAR just doesn't get the scale of things that SupCom got so perfect. FAF has been the greatest thing to happen to the subgenre.
@protogenhorde8515
@protogenhorde8515 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, my favorite RTS , I hope someone truely revived it and doesn’t do a dawn of war 3
@adamofblastworks1517
@adamofblastworks1517 2 жыл бұрын
I think its story has been told.
@SickLiq
@SickLiq 2 жыл бұрын
It's one of the few games I can never uninstall. For when I just get that urge to turtle up with turrets and lob artillery shells at the AI for a half hour. Edit: Your accent is great but while trying to figure out while my grandmother had a "dick" chair, I heard the word "dickade" and finally got it.
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@paulie-g
@paulie-g 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zade_95 I knew what was coming, but the NZ e -> i transition never fails to disappoint. Even the ozzies managed to avoid it. How and why did it happen? Do NZ bees just fly into people's mouths if they open them to pronounce open vowels? Are your moustaches so heavy that it's impractical to lift your upper jaw? I've always wanted to know.
@bobbinatorrah67
@bobbinatorrah67 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just the best RTS ever. It captured my fascination and imagination. Holy cow you’re right, I never realized that this game basically killed RTS because it just couldn’t be replaced.
@Some_day_i_may_find_a_name
@Some_day_i_may_find_a_name 2 жыл бұрын
There was a gap of less than a month between my discovery of supreme commander, running it on an old dust covered disk, and buying all 3 games on steam for me and my friends to play.
@64-Bit_Dragon
@64-Bit_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing how many more RTS games are being developed and coming out I just hope the genre, in general, becomes mainstream again where games don't just have to be kept on life support. Right now the audience seems to be ageing without much fresh blood coming in but that's something games like BAR and Zero-K do solve somewhat by being free to play which I see as quite important to get young people to join, the indoctrination needs to start early.
@michaeldinino9295
@michaeldinino9295 2 жыл бұрын
Sup Com was my first game after halo reach and thus my intro to the awesome world of RTS! it has been my life mission to share and spread the world of my fav game. im sure many know of the creator BRNKoInsanity that made videos and live streams of sup com and was my biggest source of sup com content. i have to admit that when he left the platform i was sure that sup com was in its final days( i didn't know that people like Guyle where also making sup com content until recently) so that rambling out of the way, im SO happy that people are not only still talking about this amazing game that developed my childhood, but that they have so much care for it that its legacy is influencing the resurgence of the genre.
@florbfnarb7099
@florbfnarb7099 2 жыл бұрын
Supreme Commander and Homeworld are the absolute pinnacle of RTS games, IMO. I'm hoping the genre remains alive with new, quality games.
@Armstrong84
@Armstrong84 2 жыл бұрын
If you're a fan of Total Annihilation I'd highly recommend giving Beyond All Reason a go. There's a bit of jank because it early days but it's basically a TA remake.
@OhhJim
@OhhJim 2 жыл бұрын
Zero-K is also a TA remake. I will check out Beyond All Reason, thanks.
@DanCantStandYA
@DanCantStandYA 2 жыл бұрын
Game is not on steam, yet. Is it taxing on your PC?
@lolsteamroller
@lolsteamroller 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanCantStandYA You need to have any GPU (not really working well on integrated graphics), and rest FPS wise is just cpu. I played fine with 4670k up to 5k units. Steam has a big checklist, mostly spreading infrastructure to be able to support, but balance and game is playable. BAR is very awesome.
@Armstrong84
@Armstrong84 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanCantStandYA Yeah basically what the steamroller guy said, but it is free to download from there website so it's worth a shot.
@bobcarter6483
@bobcarter6483 2 жыл бұрын
Beyond all Reason is a brilliant game
@cm4n63
@cm4n63 2 жыл бұрын
Games like this and Advance Wars made up a good chunk of my childhood, so imagine my shock when a new video about it drops when i randomly search for rts videos
@ethancampbell2422
@ethancampbell2422 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, actually Beyond All Reason is more of a Total Annihilation than Supreme Commander project. The engine is a fork of Spring, a 3D version of the TA engine by the Swedish Yankspankers, and the whole goal of the project was to have a more modern 3D TA balanced along the lines of one of the most popular Spring game, itself the Spring version of a popular TA mod. Supreme Commander was only marginally an inspiration.
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 2 жыл бұрын
another TA inspired game on Steam is Zero-K, which has the bonus od being the only RTS game to my knowledge where terraforming and using physics-based weapons are part of the game.
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 Ай бұрын
​@@thorveim1174Zero-K looks like Spring too. The UI and everything are right.
@anakngchinelas
@anakngchinelas 2 жыл бұрын
What really drew me was the scale, the weapon range, the sensors, it felt right, why would you be limited by sight? Unlike other rts games where I wonder why a big ass cannon can't reach half a kilometer.
@DanCantStandYA
@DanCantStandYA 2 жыл бұрын
how could you forget the basically unlimited zoom? other games got tossed aside quick like for feeling too restricted in the zoom area alone.
@LuaanTi
@LuaanTi 2 жыл бұрын
And even then, the scale just wasn't enough for naval combat. Ships couldn't focus their firepower, since the units were way too large compared to the weapon range. To make it really work and feel good, you'd need to have far larger distances, and far less accurate weapons. But that would make the already gigantic scale difference between the smallest mechs and naval weapons even greater.
@anakngchinelas
@anakngchinelas 2 жыл бұрын
@@LuaanTi Well, naval would be hard to pull off it is not a dedicated naval game, also, shells in my opinion is a bit slow, though accidental hits on aircrafts is awsome.
@anakngchinelas
@anakngchinelas 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanCantStandYA Hahaha that became a habit of mine after SupCom, I zooming out on other games even though its already zoomed out.
@LuaanTi
@LuaanTi 2 жыл бұрын
@@anakngchinelas It's one of the reasons why I got so much into grand strategy games; the scale allows the games to be quite realistic and interesting, without having to be limited by actually having a planet-sized game map where you can see individual soldiers. And it makes it easier to understand that in a real battle, you're not an omniscient commander who is clearly understood by everyone in the field :D That's what always irked me about microing in RTS games - you're doing stuff that even the most highly trained soldiers couldn't ever pull off. Of course, it's a lot more believable in a game where you really _are_ a commander controlling an army of robots - no morale, perfect command and control. Planetary Annihilation finally brought us the next step in scale, though at the cost of making the planets smallish. It's really hard to play, though :D
@timmcgrath8742
@timmcgrath8742 2 жыл бұрын
The first ever RTS I played as a child, was Dune II, which was awesome, then TA. TA was amazing for many reasons not just the scale, for one, it was the first game I ever played that utilised two screens and did it well. I played on one screen and had the second showing the overview. It was a tacticians wet dream come true. Then SC, but it didn't have the same kick about it that TA had. Mind you, saying that, I did buy Kingdoms, which was definitely a low point in my collection... :( I really liked Gas powered games as well and played the Dungeon Siege games to literal death.
@ZadeKirian
@ZadeKirian 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the childhood classics that got me into the game! Much like C&C and The Dark Legions. I also found it really funny. I open up KZbin for the day and see "Zade" and "Supreme Commander 1" all in the same video. I was like "Wait, that's not me! Oh, SupCom 1? I gotta see this."
@kampfer91
@kampfer91 2 жыл бұрын
Ashes of the Singularity "Am i a joke to you ? "
@BlueTemplar15
@BlueTemplar15 2 жыл бұрын
No, you're a souped-up tech demo ! :p
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 Ай бұрын
Tried it, wasn't impressed honestly
@cristhianmlr
@cristhianmlr 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine saying "SC" is the best RTS and people immediatly say "yes, StarCraft is the best. Bruh.
@sangweeni304
@sangweeni304 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best games ever, it was this and Blitzkrieg 1 which got me into RTS. They don’t make ‘em like they used to anymore. Modern ones are so simple and without any real combat AI.
@zombiewolf007
@zombiewolf007 4 ай бұрын
I loved this video. Thanks for making it! I was able to find some fun new RTS's I didnt even know about outside of Supreme Commander. Downloading Beyond All Reason soon.
@REgamesplayer
@REgamesplayer 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Supreme Commander, but multiplayer for me always seemed like turtling paradise in the original Supreme Commander. Also, multiplayer appeared to me meant for hardcore people considering just how much micromanagement there is in later stages. Excluding the need to know the most optimal paths. How many builders should build units. The build order. Etc. It felt daunting even excluding the fact of a horrible impression I had of game's balance.
@Triaxx2
@Triaxx2 2 жыл бұрын
The FAF team has worked pretty hard to balance the game out.
@Dude29
@Dude29 2 жыл бұрын
You are right on this, the learning curve is very hard But the balancing issues have all been addressed in the later versions of the game
@sniperfi4532
@sniperfi4532 2 жыл бұрын
The game does have quite a steep learning curve in regards from going from newbie to regular but that’s the great thing about the community. Plenty of times I’ve been able to jump in a discord call with some players that teach all the basics and play a few games allowing you to improve your skills.
@akaroth7542
@akaroth7542 2 жыл бұрын
1v1 wasn't turtley. You pressed with tier 1 while expanding until you could either tech up unexpectedly or pulled something sneaky to let your swarm break through.
@Triaxx2
@Triaxx2 2 жыл бұрын
@@akaroth7542 Aggression wins games, but if no one goes aggressive...
@Vergil4093
@Vergil4093 2 жыл бұрын
Need more developers to create more games like this It gives me that childhood happiness inside me
@FlavorsomeMusic
@FlavorsomeMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Beyond All Reason is free (open source free, not p2w free :P), never really played Supreme Commander enough to comment on its similarities with it, but damn, BAR is an awesome RTS. I introduced many fans of supreme to it and they've been pretty amazed. It does have its rough edges but it's still immensely entertaining. Highly recommend until a full fledged project like sanctuary hits the shelves. 👌
@jamesantonisenior4855
@jamesantonisenior4855 2 жыл бұрын
I used to play this game as a kid. I 1v1ed with my brother, played a lot against the ai and had a great time. But few years ago I found faf and frankly I was amazed by how dynamic this game can be and how many interesting and fun strategies there are. I still play it a lot to this day. Faf is great, supcom is great, thanks for covering it!
@rolandthebandit5914
@rolandthebandit5914 2 жыл бұрын
BAR is pretty damn good, runs really well even with massive amounts of units running about and the AI can be tweaked to your liking and it is no push over. The only real complaint I have with BAR is the maps don't have that same sense of scale supcom's maps did but they are alright for what it is. Is free to try it also and well worth a look.
@st8113
@st8113 2 жыл бұрын
BAR plays great, I hope it goes far.
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 2 жыл бұрын
yeah was impressed that BAR didnt chug in the slightest when great numbers of units get smashed at the same time with debris flying everywhere
@ophidahlia1464
@ophidahlia1464 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so damn impressed with Beyond All Reason, not the least of which is because it's open-source and free while also being basically a resurrection and second coming of Total Annihilation. It brings all the modern conveniences and design features you expect in a modern RTS, takes some elements from SA, and the presentation is very solid, coherent, and well designed. It leans more towards TA than SA which is a great thing since that's a niche not already covered by the other games & mods mentioned here (also because Planetary Annihilation failed to deliver on its own ambitions). The overall quality and presentation is more what you'd expect from a commercial project from an established studio than a free & open-source project. The dev team is funding the project with merch and donations and they're very transparent & accountable about the breakdown of their budget for the project which is very reassuring. So if you're a fan of these games (of course you are, you're here and you have good taste in games!) there's no reason to not check it out. The devs are very engaged with the playerbase and constantly release automatic updates through their own frontend; given how playable it is despite it still being in the alpha stage and that the dev team is committed to have it be fully featured and thoroughly polished before they release on Steam (ETA whenever it's ready, they can't rush quality) it's pretty much a certainty that it'll only get better and more impressive between now and the eventual 1.0. www.beyondallreason.info
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 Ай бұрын
I got into Planetary Annihilation mostly because, well, it was TA with newer graphics. It's been okay for that, but knowing that BAR exists makes me want to check this out.
@chunkblaster
@chunkblaster 2 жыл бұрын
One of the core mechanics i love about supreme commander is the tech system where each level is multiplicatively more powerful than the last, I want more games to have a system like that
@MrPerson61
@MrPerson61 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope "the guard" faction in Sanctuary is going to be like the Cybran in terms of aesthetic. Lots of angles, spider legs (as shown) and lasers. I hope to god they still have the different types of red lasers.
@DrownedLamp
@DrownedLamp 2 жыл бұрын
I want to take moment to praise the dual/multi screen support of this game. I've seen mods like it, but nothing in a vanilla game. It helps immerse you in the mech pilot fantasy while adding gameplay depth. You could use it for simple stuff like having eyes on your base, to splitting your 2nd monitor into setup worthy of a scifi anime.
@veritasabsoluta4285
@veritasabsoluta4285 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand, what do you mean? Like you can have your camera on your second monitor watch your base while on your main monitor you are watching something else?
@carlreid4413
@carlreid4413 2 жыл бұрын
@@veritasabsoluta4285 you sure can
@mylesleggette7520
@mylesleggette7520 2 жыл бұрын
@@veritasabsoluta4285 You can also have each monitor have a split screen for even more views, and you can have different screens have different tactical overlays. It's really quite a good RTS interface.
@CommanderBohn
@CommanderBohn 2 жыл бұрын
Wished SupCom 2 was an actual upgrade over the 1st game instead of a downgrade.
@Glibbers
@Glibbers 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it did improve the path-finding significantly, at least.
@knightofvirtue613
@knightofvirtue613 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the tech tree upgrades. It applied upgrades to all units you already built, I stead of requiring you to build new forces
@CommanderBohn
@CommanderBohn 2 жыл бұрын
OK, it had some ups. Yes, the pathfinding was better, I too liked the tech-trees...but it still felt like a downgrade. And I blindly believed it would improve. How foolish I was.
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhh. Tbh I like Sc2 a lot. It's just not a good sequel at all. Almost feels like if it was marketed as a spin off it might have done better. But who knows
@neurocidesakiwi
@neurocidesakiwi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zade_95 but all the units feel exactly the same.
@cliffsangelsphotography
@cliffsangelsphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Among all the RTS games I have and love, Supreme Commander and Forged Alliance are my favorite and always come back to it.
@Twiggy163
@Twiggy163 Жыл бұрын
I learned that the FAF community is a tough teacher. Found some randoms to play a match with and, although they were taking it easy on me and giving me tips, they were unforgiving in their assault. It was a good defeat.
@Wafflemarine22
@Wafflemarine22 2 жыл бұрын
At one point me and a friend had the best records on a few maps for FAF 2 player coop. So many hundreds of hours of fun. You could I think it was 8 player the coop and it scaled to the players. Always the first game I tell people about wanting to get into RTS game. The new BAR looks and plays really well so i have high hopes for that.
@RuskiVodkaaaa
@RuskiVodkaaaa 10 ай бұрын
I have wanted a 3rd supreme commander for 12+ years now...my childhood was supcom 1 and 2. I still have hope that one day we will see the game come back, it does help that the RTS genre has become popular again.
@burakgozluklu
@burakgozluklu 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it IS Total Annihilation which inspired Supreme Commander. So pls credit TA ;)
@BlueTemplar15
@BlueTemplar15 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's really weird : how can one in the same video mention an interview with Chris Taylor... and TA not even once ?!
@insaneomen25
@insaneomen25 2 жыл бұрын
FAF is the best thing that could have happened given the studio collapse. That might be a consolation, but it is basically the best possible outcome.
@laszlomiskei9138
@laszlomiskei9138 2 жыл бұрын
Please allow me to promote Gyle's youtube channel. He is truly the FAF commentator if you are interested in watching the multiplayer scene.
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
True and correct
@farn1991
@farn1991 7 ай бұрын
Revival? It never die. It always be in our heart.
@nidhinchikku24
@nidhinchikku24 2 жыл бұрын
Bro i literally had chills for a minute straight.. I absolutely love the game and has not yet found something like sup com... I would absolutely love to see someone make a sequel with the essence of FA..
@kaseknife8740
@kaseknife8740 2 жыл бұрын
my introduction to Supreme Commander was the second one but when I found the first one I was amazed at why it got so scaled downed
@reidf4412
@reidf4412 2 жыл бұрын
It was scaled down to go more mass market on console, instead of building even bigger than the first one on PC
@MiiDev69
@MiiDev69 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love supcom. I am a hard-core Red Alert 2 fan and I spent a good amount of time looking for something that could supply my Red Alert craves, there were many games that promised a similar experience and sold themselves as inspired by RA2, but they all failed to deliver. Supcom was different and made no attempts in hiding that. It was no Red Alert clone and it was proud of it. I tried it and fell in love with it and then Forged Alliance squeezed more awesome out of that game. It is truly a master piece that I enjoy still today! Supreme Commander 2 was garbage in comparison. It had lost everything that made the original great, it felt more generic with extra bells and whistles.
@Paladin1034
@Paladin1034 Жыл бұрын
I never played it, somehow. I've been an RTS fan for years, ever since playing Warcraft on DOS. I still go back and play AoE 2, Galactic Battlegrounds, Starcraft 2, etc. I just tried supcom for the first time today. I'm so mad at myself for never playing it before!
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 Ай бұрын
We do need a new Red Alert game though, there hasn't been anything that wacky taking itself that seriously (in universe) in a long time.
@matthewdunwoody9292
@matthewdunwoody9292 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the title and thought "This better be about Supreme Commander". Happy days indeed
@davidconcepcion5082
@davidconcepcion5082 9 ай бұрын
casually played this game for years with family never knew it was this beloved.
@GtheMVP
@GtheMVP 2 жыл бұрын
I hope there's a campaign. Like many introverts, I prefer losing myself in a solo campaign where there's a storyline purpose beyond skirmishes. The backdrop for this is ripe for storytelling and deep lore. I'm sure the MP suite will be excellent, for whwn I feel like engaging with fellow humans lol, but hopefully the campaign has coop. The dev you interviewed doesn't sound too sure about a campaign
@sirgs5662
@sirgs5662 5 ай бұрын
In sanctuarys defense between vanilla supreme commander & forged alliance there's only about 6 missions total per campaign, the real meat of supreme commander was in the skirmish/online, if you want a more single player oriented experience then TA with a faction/unit mod that still allows access to the campaign mode + expansions is more up your alley. but yeah hoping there is a structured campaign in sanctuary to introduce new players to the games staple mechanics in a non PvP environment, even if it's only about 2 or 3 missions longer than your average supcom game
@RPKris
@RPKris 4 ай бұрын
On a carousel of emotions. Just saw Supreme Commander retrospective that mentioned it was gone too soon. Now I am here.
@Nelleil_86
@Nelleil_86 11 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for sanctuary. Been following them on FB.
@duydome
@duydome 2 жыл бұрын
imagine Supcom with Warhammer 40k mod
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 2 жыл бұрын
SupCom is THE BEST rts game ever made. All it needs is a remaster, and it will continue living FOREVER
@tatsuuuuuu
@tatsuuuuuu 2 жыл бұрын
Sanctuary is your best bet
@sean85ster
@sean85ster 2 жыл бұрын
To create a game with a modding community in mind: Absolute legend. For each triple A title released that works against its modding community goes pretty much into the abyss just a year later after release. Imagine if Bethesda games had no modding community - noone would ever bother.
@LasherTimora
@LasherTimora 5 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I was never able to get into Supreme Commander. Maybe it's fine in multiplayer, but the campaign has bad pacing (even the first mission took like an hour to finish), and meh mission design. Supreme Commander 2 on the other hand was pretty good.
@fnors2
@fnors2 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, good RTS tend to survive on their modding community. Can't remember which KZbinr said it (it's been a while since I saw that video...), but they said something along the way that the best RTS might be Real Time Sandbox games. Which makes sense. Starcraft and Warcraft 3, for example, are still alive in everyone's hearts because of all the custom user-made maps. SupCom lives through it's mods as well.
@TheNamesBliss
@TheNamesBliss 2 жыл бұрын
Am I getting old? For sure. Will I die sooner or later? Hopefully. But by God I'll die happy knowing I've absolutely destroyed every other commander out there 😌
@Solitas777
@Solitas777 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they'd remaster forged alliance and use more than 2 processes for multi threaded gaming.
@undertheravensperch5235
@undertheravensperch5235 2 жыл бұрын
8 years ago, I received an early build of LOUD from the main dev of the project via email, back when the GPG Forums were still around. I think I was trying SupCom out for the first time, and Sprouto (that was his username back then) was very helpful when I had some issues trying to DL the needed files from the FTP that hosted LOUD, and then with setting it all up. I still have the email :D In the end, I never did get around to actually playing SupCom, but it's nice to see how much LOUD (and the community as a whole) has expanded over the years. Now I just need to get around to playing SupCom for real...
@binarybubble
@binarybubble 2 жыл бұрын
He (sprouto) is till the main Dev and very active. As the whole discord community.
@anno-fw7xn
@anno-fw7xn 2 жыл бұрын
i would love a suprem commander 3 or at least a game like it, i loved to play the forver mode.
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
Sanctuary 👀
@SilentHotdog28
@SilentHotdog28 Жыл бұрын
I've only now got a PC that can run this game with myself and 7 AI at 500 max pop, haven't tried 1000. This game was so far ahead of its time. I love all the different things you can do in it.
@ancientgamer3645
@ancientgamer3645 2 жыл бұрын
I never played it HONEST! OK, maybe a few hundred times. Actually, I play all of the series every year. I watch this channel more often. Great stuff. Thanks, Zade!!!
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you man. Appreciate you always being in the comments :)
@TheFutureIsOurs-qu5qo
@TheFutureIsOurs-qu5qo 3 ай бұрын
I started with Dune2, continued with C&C, then came TA. Everything else was just a spinoff of these originals, they are very good and have a place in my library especially the Ashes of the Singularity. I hope they release a game one day where you lead a space battle which then continue on the planet surface (air,water and ground) and you have to conquer whole solar systems in a vast galaxy. A man can dream....
@blakearius
@blakearius 2 ай бұрын
There is the star wars RTS.. But no Your talking about planetary annihilation but with space battles and bigger scale. Sounds like a nightmare to code, but would be cool.
@gallendugall8913
@gallendugall8913 2 жыл бұрын
Supreme Commander did not kill RTS. The entire genre devolved into an obsession with "micro" - short for micromanagement. Micro is not fun. Micro is how you grind wins in RTS competitively. It was over specialization for a niche audience, but devs could see and interact with their tiny competitive audience so in their minds that became their entire audience.
@robozombie9026
@robozombie9026 Жыл бұрын
Supreme Commander and Star Wars Empire at War were and still are my favorite RTS games ever. I'm trash at multiplayer but easy and normal AI made the game fun to build massive armies and have hot engagements.
@BikeRush
@BikeRush 2 жыл бұрын
Smart title wrong game
@sacred1hawk553
@sacred1hawk553 2 жыл бұрын
Do you reckon its Sins of a Solar Empire? or what do you think, genuinely curious. i love rts
@Pinkydoodle2_
@Pinkydoodle2_ 2 жыл бұрын
Age of empires baby
@soulgamer612
@soulgamer612 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly there are plenty of games deserving of the “Best RTS” title but I feel that, as far as scale and strategical depth go, Supcom is still king. Some games do small scale action better but none I know can quite compare, even spiritual successors like BAR and PA
@BikeRush
@BikeRush 2 жыл бұрын
@@sacred1hawk553 I mean for me best story is starcraft best gameplay and madness is red alert 2 maybe with supcom best looking RTS of it's time kanes wrath still holds up today I don't think there is a Best rts game I think overall they have major faults and that's okay and people should enjoy them apart from CnC4 that can die
@sacred1hawk553
@sacred1hawk553 2 жыл бұрын
@@BikeRush best response
@ScornedOne1080
@ScornedOne1080 Ай бұрын
It was uncomplicated in it complexity . . . the game was about massive warfare without the need for obtuse micromanagment beyond gathering materials to make your armies. And your armies did what they did without any need for special abilities beyond what they were built with. Setup defenses, build armies, burn the competition down slowly, make tactical strikes, hide the construction of your super weapon, and unleash royal hell when the opponent is found. It was the perfect formula with well balanced sides and a multitude of offensive and defensive strategies to choose from.
@muklisalisyahab9580
@muklisalisyahab9580 Жыл бұрын
1.5 decades and still strong, you can't remaster something that's already a masterpiece.
@LucidEquinox
@LucidEquinox 2 жыл бұрын
At 6:45 I thought you said "how to sit up and ply the game" and my dumb brain was like wow they have tutorials on posture too what a great community
@PhriekshoTV
@PhriekshoTV 2 жыл бұрын
I got to meet Chris when I was in middle school. I was in counseling, and once a month they'd have a few of us in the conference room while a CEO, etc of a local company would talk about what they do and take questions. They were in the planning stages for Demigod at the time, too. Wish I still had my Gas Powered Games cup
@303Gaming1
@303Gaming1 2 ай бұрын
It’s so weird for me, I love this game and I have played it a lot with friends and family, even gotten some others to find it and enjoy it, but the best part, the game is older than me! Supreme Commander will NEVER die!
@alphahex99
@alphahex99 2 жыл бұрын
01:33 Thank you for not shitting on SC2 by the way. Pretty rare these days.
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
It gets a bad wrap. I think it's a great game... Just not a good sequel. Maybe I'll make a video on it lol
@Jonathan1002887
@Jonathan1002887 2 жыл бұрын
Easily one of my favorite games. Had way too many enjoyable wars and fights to ever forget about it
@drandersjiang
@drandersjiang 2 жыл бұрын
As a sci-fi RTS, it actually simulates modern warfare better than any other RTS game out there. It includes: non LoS intelligence layer, strategic submarine, tactical missiles, aircraft fuels and maintenance, aircraft carriers, air superiority, combined arms warfare, etc.
@fuzzwobble
@fuzzwobble 8 ай бұрын
5:08 watching that guy fumble about with a generator, then drop it to provide no adjacency bonus... it burns...
@labdad4695
@labdad4695 Жыл бұрын
Supreme Commander 2 was my introduction to RTS. Haven't found anything else in the RTS genre to date that satisfies me.
@LV_427
@LV_427 2 жыл бұрын
This game probably has the best depiction of nuclear explosions in strategy games
@V4PoRiZeR20
@V4PoRiZeR20 2 жыл бұрын
i hope hes successful with making his RTS project looks decent so far from what i seee! thanks for sharing!
@Lunethia
@Lunethia 2 жыл бұрын
Its like Age of Empires 2 and Broodwar, it doesnt fucking die man.
@guyincognito959
@guyincognito959 2 жыл бұрын
That looks very promising. I wanted to add that B.A.R exists. It is basically a Supreme Commander remake.
@eviltaylor1
@eviltaylor1 Жыл бұрын
Back to building 60 sniper bots, in 2 lines and side on so they don't all shoot the first thing they see. Seeing the mobile land factory get 1 volley off before death is fun.
@lordreal6141
@lordreal6141 2 жыл бұрын
Supreme still has me glued to the screen. I love it🙂
@nickoutram6939
@nickoutram6939 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever created the code for the shields in SC is the greatest programmer ever in my book...
@alucardlord9032
@alucardlord9032 2 жыл бұрын
Protoss shield? Why?
@The.Tabletop.Traveller
@The.Tabletop.Traveller 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and genuinely interested in Sanctuary, thanks for the tip!!!
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Me too, looking great so far
@odt4492
@odt4492 2 жыл бұрын
Supreme Commander, StarCraft and Battle for Middle-earth - wish there was a new of any of these in production.
@mikovee2291
@mikovee2291 Жыл бұрын
I love this game to bits. Its my favorite RTS. I came to the game through console unfortunately and played the mediocre second game before i could get my hands on the OG. I remember catching BRNKoINSANITY's livestreams whenever i could to enjoy some FAF shenanigans, enjoying the chaos. I cant wait to finally get a PC and play this game proper
@MattZaharias
@MattZaharias 2 жыл бұрын
YES, Total Annihilation was my jam when I was a young teenager.
@failsafe123123
@failsafe123123 2 жыл бұрын
Being ol' player I've had my pleasure with all iconic RTS games, starting with Dune 2, then all sorts of Warcraft, C&C and so on. And yes, Total Annihilation and Supreme Com were really something back then. From my perspective, however, RTS in form of base-builder has died. I wouldn't mind playing new version of SC, no doubts about this, but I believe that base-builders are blind path. Maybe this is because these games are "everything-inside-but-nothing-perfect". Base building is always very simplified and even if there is little more than just placing buildings or other structures, there is no depth in it. When it gets to battle, we also see something very simplified, with very limited tactics - in most cases it is only about figures. The more, the better. I'm not saying that these games are totally bad or something, no, they seem to be nice for moment, but at the end of the day you have feeling that you played one, you played all of them.
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