ZAZA - Gas Station Heroin! I took Tianeptine and Phenibut for 45 days, here’s what happened!

[@CertifiedHater98]

all that time just to say “i do not recommend this”. You didn’t explain your experience 😂😂😂 bro you’re terrible

[@healing2gether]

@@CertifiedHater98 still, certifiably a dumbazz…👍🏻

[@JohnGeorge-pw2xo]

I started doing drugs years ago as a teenage, got addicted to heroin. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was diagnosed with cptsd. Heroin addiction actually destroyed my life. Not until my mom recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 4 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.

[@MuratBasar-jm9lc]

Amen God bless people. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health.

[@DonnDenisse]

YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

[@FrankMorrison-vu2kc]

How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

[@JacksonSmith-wc8oo]

Yes he's Dr.alishrooms.Shrooms to me is a natrual healer. I know a guy who has used mushrooms in the same way and they have really helped him. mah dudes have safe trips all.

[@JesseJason-qc7ug]

I would like to know from those who have solved PTSD and anxiety, if they have solved it definitively and how to understand what quantity of psilocybin to take and when, for how long. And can you really heal without having an addiction? Thanks to everyone for helping me understand, I want to understand if it's something that can help me solve the problem (I have c-ptsd)

[@raelenelabby6407]

I have never heard of this. Thank you for the heads up. I, admittedly, am someone whom, if I got any positive results, I would be hooked in no time. I will heed your words. Thank you coach

[@healing2gether]

Yup, good for you for knowing yourself, much like me as well!

[@winterfreshification]

THANK YOU for covering tianeptine. This stuff is the devil. It ruined my life for a little bit last year because of addiction. This stuff is highly addictive and dangerous. If you are thinking of trying this, don't. I thought like many do that I could handle it and not become addicted cause that was the case for me with kratom, alcohol or really any other substance. Tianeptine was different, the minute I became dependant it was all over the cycle of addiction started and took over a year to finally quit for good.

[@cryjoy3083]

I stopped taking this after it was banned... I've done this dance many times with many substances but this was the only withdrawal I went to the emergency room for. The physical combined with the absolute mindf*ck was terrifying. Seriously, its a nasty one.

[@LisaHale-yl2vr]

Someone I went to rehab with started selling this as if it was heroin and he got my other good friend hooked on it. The detox is just like heroin. He said he also experienced severe depression during and after the initial detox and it lasted for months. This crap is terrible...

[@mikegeary8056]

I took Tia for a week and it did some crazy shit to my body. I think it fucks up your circulation somehow. If you’re gonna be addicted to something stick with the classics.

[@Gchang54]

Classics? Like coke, meth, heroin and weed? Hell ye breh

[@windwarattack2300]

Never heard of it...thanks for letting us know...I'm going to buy some now...thanks for the tip..Ha..Ha...just messing

[@healing2gether]

Lol….well I’m glad I know you’re joking, stay far away from it!! Enjoy your kratom ;)

[@lonewolf31337]

Iv never heard of this. Thanks for the information bro. Always a joy watching your videos

[@paskkattack]

So you still take oxies and tramadol for pain management even with the kratom ?

[@aaronhobart7826]

I am glad I have never touched Tianeptine and have only touched Phenibut a couple of times. I am currently trying to get off a 15g a day kratom habit that i have had for a year and its rough.

[@healing2gether]

Make sure to watch all of our videos in the kratom playlist, I’m sure you’ll find some very helpful and useful info for your journey!

[@davidseals3689]

What a worthless, clickbait video, you didn't explain what it did or did to you. You literally could of just wrote one sentence that said don't take this, instead of wasting everyone's time..

[@dawndail]

Do you have your consulting/coaching website up yet if so please send link 🙏💗

[@YouliveinabarnYouliveinabarn]

This stuff to me wasn't similar to heroin it was similar to tramadol for me it just gave me energy but when mixed with Xanax it did give a heroin high to the point you would nod in and out until you finally give in and go to sleep.

[@jakupwhite1516]

I wish I could walk around with level of self delusion this dude does my life would be incredible 😂

[@mikegolden3131]

This shit is baaad news. I tried it before and the withdrawals are TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE

[@healing2gether]

Yuppp…absolutely terrible!!! Not as bad as fenty in many ways, but in some ways it’s worse!

[@mikegolden3131]

@@healing2gether I tried it to come off of boy.. was a worse experience than the boy. I was the type where I would be on and off. I would party for a few weeks on it then detox, then nothing for a month or two, then do it again. I’ll admit, the tianapine got me high as hell and it did work to come off of the boy, but then trying to stop tianapine was HELL. Now for the past 3 years I only take kratom and I am a complete health freak. The gym and eating healthy are my new drugs. Wouldn’t have it any other way! Kratom definitely saved me for sure

[@CertifiedHater98]

Bro just eating whatever the gas station has bc of his addictions and claims they’re bad just so he don’t look bad 😂

[@healing2gether]

@@CertifiedHater98 haha…you’re new here, so get a clue Certified DumbAzz then make a stupid comment…because at least then you’d be making an INFORMED but certified dumbazz comment 👍🏻 Dumbazz

[@C-LE0]

bro how are u ? , try to go live again ! 🫶🏼💪🏽

[@readeracingRC]

thanks for the info. im glad you still r ok with Kratom. its making havoc on my life right now with dr....(narrow minds) you said it. I use kratom, and you get no schedule 2 drugs. pulled adderall any pain meds. im just glad for kratom. it's a life saver for me. of course i don't know why i have the pain. i just have to except that the way for my life. im venting brou.

[@healing2gether]

I’m sorry to hear that! But like you said, good thing you have kratom!! We need to spread the word and keep kratom available to all!

[@amandalininger-bortko1616]

Thanks for putting it out there, coach! I have some people to warn to not take it. Never heard of that first addicitive one that starts with a T (assuming that one probably hits the opiate receptors?), and i heard that Phenibut feels exactly like adderall? I ALMOST tried it, but did NOT because I used to be addicted to adderall. I'm talking, 20 years ago, i would take a whole bottle of 40mg/day in 2 days, along with a bunch of xanax. Idk how I'm not dead. I'm so proud of myself for making it this far. I was also an opiate addict, who switched to kratom for chronic pain (8 years on kratom), and now I'm off that. I'm an addict, i can't take it. Only way i was able to do it was through Jesus Christ our Lord! I'm NOT against kratom by any means for chronic pain, just to put that out there. I recommend it instead of big pharma any day! Just not for me because i was ready to surrender it. I couldn't keep it under control. God bless you, brother!

[@CertifiedHater98]

Dawg you reallly don’t know shit. Phenibut is more like Xanax. Only way it gives energy is because it relaxes people and takes away anxiety, therefore giving some people energy because their anxiety slows them down. Go actually research shit before you yap

[@timmytwotone65]

58 year old guy here, I have an addictive personality. Was on Tia for 18 months straight, taking 8-10 pills a day of Za Za reds. About 4 bottles a week. I stopped cold turkey about a month ago. Withdraws were hell for a week. So glad to be off this shit!

[@winterfreshification]

How are you doing now? Any tips to quit?

[@timmytwotone65]

@@winterfreshification Well for me cold turkey worked for me, I tried to taper and would get down to 4-5 a day and would relapse. If you can get a RX for gabapentin, that helped me a lot. Good luck!

[@Identity242]

@@timmytwotone65how does gabapebtin help it?

[@Mike_Cosentino]

Thanks for putting this info out there, Coach! Never heard of it til now, which is a good thing! I live with chronic pain but have even been cutting back with the kratom a bit because the pain comes and goes still. Trying to incorporate other methods into my pain management recovery. Hope all is well ✌️

[@tlb2683]

I completely agree. Tia was the worst withdrawal process that I have ever went through. It not only f***s you up physically, the mental toll that it takes is just as damning. I was losing my mind during the process and would not wish anyone to go through it. I hope everyone stays far away. At my worst I was taking 4 bottles a day. So please stay far away.

[@bradpnw1897]

Glad you got out. How horrible was the withdrawals?

[@sadhu7191]

Why would u take a drug that has no recorded use???

[@sadhu7191]

Yeah stay away. It's so great, I loved it. Stay away it's so bad 4 bottle I did it all day felt so good stay away it's legal

[@winterfreshification]

You are very fortunate being able to quit and stay away. Most who take for any more then a month find it nearly impossible to stay away and stay sober from it.

[@justinpell3760]

WORSE WITHDRAWALS KNOWN TO MAN

[@winterfreshification]

It truly is a special type of hell

[@lukanizetich3686]

What was your dosage per dose and per day Coach?

[@winterfreshification]

Ya I am also interested. He got so lucky he didn't get full blown addicted to this stuff. It only took me about 2 months to become full-on addicted and obsessed with this stuff.

[@theRevPauLthatsAll]

Wow! Thanks coach! I got offered this at a smoke shop but the weird name made me say hell no and glad i did! Ill be sticking with my kratom tea and Kava

[@healing2gether]

Good, smart move!!

[@auriuman78]

Been hearing about this stuff. Purposely have stayed away even though I'm curious just because of its nickname- gas station heroin... I've stayed away from the actual H and it's brothers for similar reasons, I know that I'll like it more than I should and get stuck and sick. The one time I was in an ER and had genuine 10 pain, bad gall bladder, they gave me fentanyl. Came back 10 minutes later and asked how I felt, and still crying in pain answered still a damn 10. I still don't know if they just placeboed me with the fentanyl cause I felt no change, but they came back with something called Dilaudid after I said still 10 and wooahh. Still remember it almost 15yr ago. Within 20 seconds I went from 10 to 2 and after maybe a minute was doing just fine even with a fully clogged gall bladder. I don't remember saying it but my wife and mom said I asked for more to take home with me. I don't need this stuff in my body, ever. Thanks for the PSA coach. You just killed the little curiosity that was still in my thoughts.

[@sadhu7191]

Phenibut was made in 60s by russians for astronauts

[@123sleepygamer]

The withdrawals from Tia are INSANE. It also builds tolerance BY THE DAY. I don't know if he addressed this, but by week 2 I was taking an entire bottle in one day, not in one sitting but I'd kill the bottle in a fuckin day, that's when I stopped. I only took them for maybe two weeks and I had withdrawals when I quit them. I've been addicted to Phenibut before, currently on gabapentin and I hope to stop it soon as well.

[@healing2gether]

Well said, I agree completely!!

[@sadhu7191]

It has no recorded use. So your a test dummy for science. Stupid

[@yeetlord-to9jr]

god damn man…in my experience, kratom wd can be tough sure, but it is absolute child’s play compared to phenibut wd….phen wd is on a. WHOLE new level of just all encompassing darkness, anhedonia and depression for me. Now, I have only heard about the horrors of tianeptine. so I would not be entirely surprised if the intensity and profundity of the pain induced by Tia + Phenibut wd TOGETHER may well drive some people (like myself) to suicide. shit is FUCKED

[@kennys9644]

Coach its called Tianeptine and i can't find it in my town. Maybe I am not looking hard enough?

[@healing2gether]

That’s a good thing, stay away from it ;)

[@sadhu7191]

Why would u tell peolle about a legal new drug and your experience with it online if u didimt want people to find it???

[@piranhaeatspanda]

I can't find the stuff anywhere in Tennessee. I've gone to gas stations, smoke and vape shops and even showed the workers what I'm looking for and nothing.

[@J.A.07]

​@@piranhaeatspanda dude stop

[@piranhaeatspanda]

@@J.A.07 naw I'm good and will be even better when I find this shit. Lol

[@DaymionAnderson-n3h]

Lol you’re crazy taking these dude - for anyone who knows how these feel or the power of the compounds in these products you know this guy is a fucking beast!

[@healing2gether]

Thank you, my friend, but I felt like going through the experience was the only way I could know how to help those reaching out to me to help them get through their own nightmare. And believe me, it was truly an absolute nightmare to get off.

[@PaleVillian]

Wow! Thanks for the warning!

[@eyehatebudlight]

Dude I got started on this stuff 3 months ago and it has already ruined me that quick I’m on my 4th night now of absolute no sleep the withdrawals are absolutely terrible

[@healing2gether]

Shit bro I feel that deep! Those W/D’s are a literal nightmare! I had horrible night terrors coming off it! I’m sorry to hear that, keep the hydration coming and take a shit ton of vitamins and a mineral and electrolyte supplement if you can get it from Amazon or something

[@matthewlindsay5323]

I've heard of it stupidly I took it with kratom together, I'm glad it's banned in Florida now

[@ChristianRaymondFilms]

How did that mixture end up ?

[@healing2gether]

It’s definitely not a good combination most people I know that have mixed them got pretty sick afterwards. It’s just too conflicting of substances

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

Check out the video Big Lenny has a bad day. One of the drugs he was on at the time of the the video was Phenibut. Personally, Kratom helped get me off Methadone for 3 year’s. I only took it off and on for no more than 2-3 weeks. Unfortunately, after 3 year’s the pain from a lifelong list of injuries led me back to pain medication. Before I knew it, I was dabbling in H for the first time at 40 year’s old. I’m in my mid-40’s now and am able to manage my pain with Methadone, so I don’t have any reason to get off of it again. Personally, I think too many people are stigmatized by legitimate medication and are put to unrealistic timelines to quit, which leads to more harm than good in many cases. That being said, I don’t condone taking any medication unless you fully know what you’re getting into. Thank you for sharing this video. I’ve heard of this before and don’t ever plan on taking it. From what I’ve heard, Tianeptine can be extremely harmful especially if mixed with other antidepressants. Take care and best wishes. 👍🏻💯

[@livereatingjohnson8231]

What brand of kratom did you use?

[@Day-ZDuke]

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, DALE!?!

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

@@Day-ZDuke Just needs mopped.

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

@@livereatingjohnson8231 The strain was called Maeng Da. I bought an ounce and it was placed in a plastic baggie at a local head shop. At the time, I didn’t know much about it, but I mixed it with orange juice, pinched my nose and chugged it. Personally, the taste was rather unpleasant, but it did help. I also took Imodium tablets and Extra strength Tylenol. Other than that, I just tried to stay hydrated and eat when I could. Hopefully this helps.

[@mainlinemitch]

Tia withdrawal is hell but nothing compares to the nightmare of when i detoxed from U-47. Withdrawl comes on instantly and full throttle a few hours after use and every hour is like days of regular heroin/oxycodone detox.

[@creamycrypto5782]

What does it feel like compared to kratom? Or is it more like a traditional pain killer

[@winterfreshification]

feels like oxycodone with a little added lift of energy and anti-depressant effects. Highly addictive so watch out.

[@creamycrypto5782]

@@winterfreshification that sounds so awesome I’m just going to stay away thanks

[@winterfreshification]

@@creamycrypto5782 ya man its the best and worst thing that I've ever tried. You know what I mean lol

[@tracemagace8434]

Yea I tried it once and whoa, the high was very intense. I knew I didn't want anymore of that

[@sadhu7191]

Yeah it's so good. Domt buy it. It's legal anywhere but sucks cause it feels so good , stay away . Try it once and I will feel in heaven. It sucks

[@tracemagace8434]

@@sadhu7191 yea, twice the high of kratom. That stuff would of taken me. Nope

[@creamycrypto5782]

⁠@@sadhu7191really? I ended up trying it took 6 tianaa red caps and don’t feel much at all. Well there goes 25 bucks 😂. Kratom works for me though

[@acidbath3226]

I heard tianeptine withdrawals are similiar to methadone because they are both antidepressant pharmacodynamics as well as opioids

[@sadhu7191]

No one knows. It has no recorded use. Liek covid vax

[@funkymonkey8174]

Well to be fair kratom also hits serotonin and dopamine receptors. However I still think tianeptine is far worse

[@acidbath3226]

@@funkymonkey8174 kratom also has like 40 other alkaloids and isn't synthetic but its still pretty bad, its nephrotoxic and can induce multi organ failure

[@sadhu7191]

It has no recorded use by anything like vax so yall test summiea

[@Day-ZDuke]

....I’ve never heard of the pharmacodynamics of methadone to act as an antidepressant, and I’ve been involved in studies and research related to methadone, opioids, medication assisted treatment, and genetic components of addiction,. At least not through evidence based research There is anecdotal evidence of this, but in the same way that any opioids, or any drug really, can cause a sense of euphoria, well-being, etc, which in effect acts as an “anti-depressant”, but is not in typical action

[@spyro6990]

Bro the fact this is more available than alcohol and weed is crazy hell I wish weed was this accessible but I also wish it was more regulated this is gonna sound crazy cause people say weed can cause anxiety but weed actually saved my life and helped me to get thru my anxiety I truly believe in it when you use it right and responsibly

[@healing2gether]

@@spyro6990 well said my friend!

[@spyro6990]

@@healing2gether thank you 🙏

[@healing2gether]

@@spyro6990 this is a topic but very strongly about, trying to get my voice by more people regarding regulatory factors involving alcohol, especially when compared to the gifts of the earth by way of healing plants. I appreciate your input and support!

[@trevorthepeasantgamer9752]

they shouldnt be worrying about kratom this stuff is the real problem. heard so many tianeptine horror stories im glad ive never tried it.

[@healing2gether]

So true!!!

[@samusvikerness661]

I hate that news articles are just lumping kratom in with this garbage. Nothing like that.

[@healing2gether]

exactly!!!

[@Jerrid_8675]

Yeah i can't afford another addiction lol ... I'm on disability and struggle to find $25 for my daily mit 45 purple

[@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908]

Whats a mit 45 purple please ?

[@Jerrid_8675]

@@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908 it's a kratom shot that's extra strong , the rapper on the bottle is purple

[@Jerrid_8675]

​@@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908 it's a kratom shot , it's called mit 45 super k extra strong . The rapper around the bottle is purple

[@ThrowAway-f8q]

Strong kratom shot ​@@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908

[@ajaalien4154]

So you became addicted to tia and experienced withdrawal???

[@970zfinest]

You've got more mental strength than I've ever seen. I've been on the green sludge, a.k.a. kratom, for over two years now, and I absolutely hate this stuff. HATE it! As soon as I get off this BS, I'm going to stop smoking, and I'm NEVER touching anything like that again. I definitely found out that I have a very, very addictive personality. I just hate the feeling of letting myself down. I couldn't imagine doing what you're able to do for a research or helpful standpoint.

[@bekeneel]

Then consider yourself lucky that you don't really need it. Many of us take it out of need for chronic pains etc, Then it's not just be about "addiction". And often u don't find right help so need to self-medicate with something like kratom, that helped me tremendously. I also have opioid pills like Oxy but I like kratom so much better. And I do take high doses but if I take only 1 good dose of opioid pills, it even skyrockets my kratom tolerance so rly not worth it, I'll stick to kratom for now. Been looking for buprenorfin subs for a while, aldo I realise nothing is actually gonna give me as good & customized help/relief as kratom does, but it can be educational & to control pain better, discipline etc..

[@healing2gether]

I’m grateful for you and your compliments, but don’t give me too much credit. I openly admit that the only way I can stay away from certain supplements, compounds and drugs is when I have something else to replace it with. That is the struggle of a true addict. Not something I’m proud of.but I’m grateful for your support your presence and your awareness. I promised myself I would do everything I could for research purposes to help others avoid what I go through every day.

[@Atreyuwu]

@@healing2gether Hi there, I just left a comment on your 'Why relapse is part of the recovery process' video from a year ago, regarding my own struggle with kratom. Today, after many years of being addicted to it (about 12 years, with a few 6-month-to-a-year breaks in between) and my latest 4 year run-and-quit cycle, I relapsed out of what I believe to be a necessity - at least at this time. I *WILL* get away from this stuff altogether eventually, but I've tried SSRI's and other 'pharmaceutical' options, and they were even worse for me - and I can't continue on with this constant anxiety and depression that I've been going through since quitting. A full month cold-turkey this time, and it has been hell. I keep thinking 'tomorrow will be better' but every morning I wake up with anxiety, depression sets in, and then I remember why I started taking Kratom in the first place. I need to be in a healthier place when I quit next time. I need to make myself exercise, keep my doses low and not dose constantly - and pursue proper mental health - then I will quit again. Anyhow, sorry if I'm ranting a bit - I just got back from a trip to the 'K-store' and now here I am nearly in tears again trying to deal with how much better I feel (I don't want to rely on drugs anymore) and found your channel looking up other peoples experiences. You got a subscriber here, thank you and Love You All. :)

[@kagen8074]

I’ve taken Tiana for a while but not everyday it is very addictive but if you have the self control to not take it everyday you’ll be okay but most people don’t have that self control so i would stick to kratom it’s not as addictive in my opinion as Tiana and cheaper a bottle of Tiana is anywhere from 35 to 40 bucks for 15 capsules

[@winterfreshification]

Ya i had self control with it for about 4 months. Would only take 2 times a week then slowly creeped to 3 then every other day. Once it was every other day I became physically dependant as my doses increased even after taking a full day off after using.

[@RustyH541]

I would like to know your thoughts on phenibut.I use this s few times a month. But I am careful to not do to much.

[@healing2gether]

Hey brother, my thoughts are very simple, I can’t take it because I get hooked immediately. I Can’t do anything at recommended dosages because my tolerance for everything is so high I quickly go from 0 to 60 overnight if you know what I mean, and Phenibut is one of those happy feeling Supplements that you only want more of. So personally, I have to stay away from it altogether. Of course, I only learned that from all my other addictions getting their claws on me and hooking me, some of which I struggle to stay away from every single minute of every single day.

[@kurtjohnson500]

Skip to 3 minutes to get to meat and potatoes

[@healing2gether]

lol…yup, thanks

[@AK-ky3ou]

Do you mess around with airsoft?

[@Gchang54]

I wreck you with my 10000fps 200v lipo 13:1 ratio'd helical geared tokyo marui 416....sorry

[@poebutcheddar]

I give this guy a hard time sometimes but everyone needs to listen to what he's saying. He is right on the money with this one! STAY AWAY FROM THIS STUFF!