Zazie the beast death.avi

[@YourPetDinosaur]

When you take into account Wolfwood's past, his decision to kill a "demonic" child takes on new meanings. There's no question adult Wolfwood would've offed adolescent Wolfwood with the same little hesitation.

[@willia3r]

In the manga, Wolfwood actually aged prematurely due to the superhuman enhancement treatments from the _"Eye of Michael"_ organization that adopted and trained him. So actually from a mentality standpoint he is a teenager.

[@loscopihues2343]

@@willia3r eh I unironically prefer the anime over the manga except for the ending

[@willia3r]

@@loscopihues2343 watching the anime made me read the manga. The anime leaves out way too much context.

[@loscopihues2343]

@@willia3r true but there's still some plot decision that I think the anime made better

[@WindiChilliwack]

​@@loscopihues2343 To be honest, i really preferred Wolfwood growing up rather than aging fast, didn't also help with the Stampede's direction where they made Wolfwood a bit more.... like a joke in a way where he's kinda a mockery of himself but also acts pretty edgy of how some teenagers are these days.

[@WaywardRobot]

Wolfwood did follow Vash's way and paid for it with his life, I understand the message, but the writing didn't hold back to put their own morel under a harsh shade, I appreciate that.

[@nerodayungog3389]

Yes, Vash would die so many times if he was not imortal and could literally dodge shots.

[@rodenbeard]

In a clever way as well, as Chapel wouldn't have willingly shot Wolfwood. Knives and Legato conspired to kill Wolfwood as soon as he adoptedV Vash's methods to break Vash even further.

[@tailedgates9]

Because it's more realistic that way. Usually anime would bend over backwards and commit to outlandish forgiveness lessons, meanwhile Trigun is like "there's nothing wrong with being nice and not wanting to hurt, but the world isn't that simple...."

[@Ares99999]

@@tailedgates9 "The world isn't that simple" is used so often by people who use violence that it feels like an excuse. Because the peaceful way is so hard to follow, people who fail say things like "The world isn't that simple." It could be, but they don't want to try for it.

[@tailedgates9]

@@Ares99999 I'm all for the path to peace, I'm just saying that not everyone else is going to feel that way. And I love that Trigun explores that. :)

[@Gojiro7]

man, compared to the manga version, Zazie the Beast here got done dirty, he/she is actually the last Gun Ho Gun to die and carried way more of the plot then any other member of the group (not counting Legato)

[@AesirUnlimited]

This is a sad scenario. On one hand, Wolfwood was probably right. Zazie the Beast was likely beyond saving. But maybe Vash and the others showing him empathy and kindness would be enough to make him change. Maybe he’s lived his whole life as a “monster” without anyone to care for him. Perhaps he could be good if he felt like he belonged. Neither decision is entirely right or wrong.

[@houseofmatrix6174]

I definitely agree

[@froztbytesyoutubealt3201]

R.I.P Nicholas D. Wolfwood.

[@sVicid3_tapE]

😭

[@valhallavin8924]

Scattered Rain is such an amazing ost. Instantly makes any scene feel heavy and sad

[@Curse_of_the_moon]

I want to be Vash. But I think I’m Wolfwood

[@polerolespalacios3886]

No, you're an otaku

[@joe-wd5gn4fv2j]

@@polerolespalacios3886 😂😂

[@thatonekid6677]

you shouldn't want to be vash in this case, in this mindset. this whole episode makes a point to show how flawed his ideals are, and how if zazie stayed alive he would've just killed vash right there

[@sVicid3_tapE]

​@@polerolespalacios3886 LMFAO

[@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World.]

I'm like Vash in that I hide my sadness with a front 😂

[@archibaldcabebe6062]

Ken was really losing it as the Digimon Emperor.

[@darknessnight1115]

Underrated comment

[@generaljackripper666]

It sucks because both of them are right.

[@CaleTucker]

"We're Searching for a place." "Where we can live peaceful days..." "With no wars, no stealing..." "A place that isn't run by fear." "A place where people can live and actually trust other human beings."

[@ivanadriazola1991]

"A paradise. But the more i think of it, the more i think there is no worse place than this world, i hate this" Sorry if its not rigth ive watched trigun in spanish

[@dansu92833]

American school yards?

[@starstuff5371]

A world without right wing fascist

[@CaleTucker]

@@starstuff5371 A world without arrogance

[@willia3r]

@@starstuff5371 A world without left wing statists.

[@darrellrobinson4506]

I kinda agree with wolfwood. The Vash thinks is good hearted but simply impossible. Some people just cant be saved...

[@PlanarCollapse2]

But that doesn't mean you can't try.

[@darrellrobinson4506]

+PlanarCollapse2 I know you can try but if it means putting other peoples lifes at risk then you really shouldn't gabble with that if others are on the line. because if you fail then all those people get hurt or worst. some people are just too far gone. no matter how hard you try. luck and persistence dont work all the time.

[@panzerguitar00]

@@darrellrobinson4506 But if nobody try's, then we'll never know.

[@Araraki-Itto1]

@@panzerguitar00 Better safe then sorry.

[@VergilDarkslayer]

@@darrellrobinson4506 well i mean...he was defeated only when vash killed legato he had no choice

[@johndavidtibbetts7320]

No one was really in any danger, is the worst part. Zazi may have been a Gung ho gun, but in that moment he was a 10 year old with a gun. There were probably like 10 different ways for Vash to disarm him if it came to that, all still without killing him But killing is Wolfwood's first reaction to these scenarios, it's just that ingrained in him. He couldn't see another way

[@tailedgates9]

After all these years and after watching Daredevil, it's crazy how much Vash and Wolfwood reflect Matt Murdock and Frank Castle in terms of their morals and beliefs. Second chances vs Permanent solutions.

[@danielmaster8776]

His cross gun is even called the Punisher, and that's one of his nicknames in Trigun Stampede.

[@Archedgar]

I get the point the show tried to make but this scene always seemed like bullshit to me. Zazie the Beast was one of the GungHo Guns. That means he killed many people and would kill many more. Wolfwood knew this 100% true. He knew Zazie would try to kill Vash so there was no choice. Wolfwood was right.

[@arielllllllll]

I think the scene was trying to show how flawed Vash logic was

[@teriosshadow17]

As much as i love Vash as a character, i agree with Wolfwood in this scene.

[@SmokeEater99]

thats literally the point of the show lol, vash is shown to be wrong almost all the time this is just the argument between him and wolfwood coming to a head

[@elitebeing21]

But spoiler wolfwood is one of the members of the gungho guns though. Smh It does show here and many times sometimes the best way to stop suffering is to kill the person that causing it or paralyzed them/ cripple for the rest of their life.

[@Archedgar]

@@elitebeing21 Yes, that's what I meant by *"Wolfwood knew this 100%"* . What did you think I was talking about?

[@MegaDoom89]

Ah if only Vash and Wolfwood's personalities were swapped, think about how many lives would be saved and how much less pain and suffering there would be in the world of Gunsmoke.

[@amuroray9115]

You’re saying more lives would be saved if Vash killed his opponents?

[@MegaDoom89]

@@amuroray9115 Oh for sure, the gun ho guns legato and knives all wouldn't have intentionally and inadvertently caused so much harm. Besides in the anime there's only 1 instance of a bandit showing mercy when given to him whereas the rest immediately try to kill Vash or others after being spared.

[@amuroray9115]

@@MegaDoom89 agreed. Not gonna lie. Wolfwood was right

[@Ares99999]

The world of Gunsmoke would have been destroyed long ago if Vash wasn't that nice.

[@awnaur0no919]

vash is only able to maintain his ultra-pacifist philosophy BECAUSE hes a superhuman demigod who can tank mad abuse from his opps; a normal human would never be able to survive wit such a morality, which is sorta tha entire point of tha 2nd half of tha series

[@j.s.5229]

It was Nicholas' job to protect Vash for Knives

[@TheKamikazeCam]

Great series, but I prefer the original Japanese with subtitles. WOLFWOOD: “Don’t tell me your dreams in a world like this!”

[@teyojin14]

Lol they said that same line in the English dub

[@houseofmatrix6174]

I understand Vash people can be saved but not murderous people.

[@F4vour1t3_Deadpool]

Some murderers can be saved, some others no.

[@houseofmatrix6174]

@@F4vour1t3_Deadpool it depends most can’t .

[@Gokiza]

Wolfwood was right.

[@casper87]

@Hippy282 its called "Scattered Rain"

[@kidneystone1345]

I AM ZAZIE THE BEAST

[@iSeenthatB4]

thank u

[@gamermation4742]

Is he really Zazie, his death feels pretty similar to Rollo. Correct me if im wrong.

[@angryman1206]

You can't fix a rabid dog. You can only put him down.

[@sarahstaycker627]

What is ep?

[@ElegeantFencer]

Rem...

[@conmilktea]

Sry but zazie getting shot and then ww standing there like 🧍‍♂️ was so fucking funny anyways smth smth wolfwood was also seen as a monster at a young age bc of experimentation so I wonder what he would've done if he met his past self now

[@mitchelltheawesome1]

Gotteem

[@gummyfrijoles791]

Zazie's a guy?! I read the Manga so I couldn't tell...

[@danrodriguez5083]

Silverio Martinez lol

[@willia3r]

started out as a guy. Got murked by one of the other gungho guns. Became a girl. Got murked again through fratricide. Then became a gay-ish looking guy? at the end. And then the control bug died which pretty much was the end of *_"The Beast"._*

[@thatonekid6677]

@@willia3r the last body it inhabited💀💀💀

[@casper87]

NO Probelm

[@starstuff5371]

Zazzi the beast was being controlled by Legato or maybe Knives

[@Esoteric-maiden]

In the manga he had a different agenda

[@thatonekid6677]

in the anime, probably. manga zazie is actually possessed by a hivemind of intelligent insects native to the planet, who are allied with knives over a shared hatred of humanity (bugs want human invaders off their planet and see plants as better to coexist with)

[@jalenikezeue4114]

😠💢😠 killing a child is never OK

[@flare0080]

What if that child was Hitler?

[@unknownwhale1534]

@@flare0080still not ok

[@DaxSports1]

No relation to zazie beetz?

[@dudea3378]

Pretty sure she was born before the manga lol