6 New ATEM Features Just Launched! (ATEM 9.5 Update)

Tons of new features just dropped for the ATEM Mini and Extreme switchers! Check out my six favorites and I'll give you a tour on how you can leverage them in your live streams!
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[@zephanmoses]

Who’s excited to test out SRT streaming?!

[@tombuck]

Thanks for breaking this down! I feel like sometimes the updates are a tad bit confusing.

[@cludford]

The control for the Fade To Black is a nice addition. It is a very easy error to make when using the switcher itself. Look forward more tests coming soon

[@ThinkShift]

Phenomenal video, Zephan, really appreciate the work you've put into this. Would love to see you do a video on using the SRT streaming within the ATEM with your usual great step-by-step explanations.

[@zephanmoses]

@@ThinkShift thank you! I did just get access to the KZbin beta for SRT so I’ll add that to my to do list.

[@-ESTITIK-]

a huge benefit using webcam output as a multi view and disable fade to black

[@PhilippCui]

Thanks for sharing. But that "Disable FTB" option in my ATEM Software Control is grey/unavailable. Using an ATEM Mini Extreme ISO. Any thoughts?

[@zephanmoses]

Are you on 9.5 or a different version? What model atem are you using?

[@skinkie]

My argument with Black Magic's offering was always that the most simple features (few lines of code) were not added for the reason of needing to buy an extra device. And some like the labels or scalers were so trivial that anyone in their sane mind (if the base firmware was open source) would already have fixed it. I am pleasantly surprised they have introduced trivial stuff like changing border colours, streaming and live editing, which likely means someone got the approval to add this stuff, making the device a more integrated workhorse. I wonder what the biggest competitor was to Black Magic that they went in this direction. I don't think it would be unrealistic to have streaming to the Atem mini as well, full integrated. If it can do live editing, it has enough decoding headroom to spare. NDI and Dante were already mentioned in the comments, if you would see that being adopted, I wonder what the hell happened at HQ.

[@zephanmoses]

NDI is pretty much never going to happen. It’s owned by Newtek (their direct competitor)

[@skinkie]

@@zephanmoses Do you think this whole thing happened because of Vmix and Virzrt/Newtek as a direct competitor? Or do you have an other hypothesis?

[@zephanmoses]

@@skinkie I don’t give much thought to it.

[@glynnetolar4423]

The competition is likely the only reason some of these updates happened.

[@skinkie]

@@glynnetolar4423 My thoughts exactly. I just wonder which (type of) competition they are specifically targetting. In my perspective these devices could always do much more than they were offered for. The even cheaper devices, offering the same functionality, would never be able to compete with these kind of upgrades due to the lack of FPGA like components.

[@Zefiro_futurista]

Seria possível captura a tela de um celular usando um cabo USB-C para HDMI com Atem Mini Pro?

[@weslymathurin1656]

Lower third please

[@jeremyabreu]

So I did the update and go to file-preferences and don’t get a fade to black setting? Only see transition control, language and midi control. What am I doing wrong? It’s an ATEM Mini Extreme and I have confirmed the 9.5 update loaded.

[@zephanmoses]

Are you in the ATEM Settings Application or the ATEM software control. You should be in the software control and then selecting the settings gear in the bottom left corner of the screen.

[@jeremyabreu]

Aha that is my mistake, I was just going from file-preference. Thank you

[@drumcatnau]

Need SRT in as a source, a memory card playback of stored pre-records, and buffer/instant replay.

[@zephanmoses]

@@drumcatnau SRT input is probably pushing what these were made to do.

[@fernandomayoral5809]

Could you record in a HD if you are using your Usbc? It’s the feature that I need and I love to have.

[@markhepi7791]

You could SRT stream remotely to vmix MCR and allow vmix to handle graphics, VTs, remote commentary and the stream output.

[@zephanmoses]

But then I’d have to get a PC and I’m all Mac 😂

[@sabrinoor]

Why would you do that instead bringing it into the PC via USB. Is your Atem far away and you srt over Ethernet or what is your use case?

[@wahoo236]

So, can I connect a TV to the ATEM via a USB-C to HDMI cable and use that new feature to send M/V to the TV via the USB-C port?

[@zephanmoses]

@@wahoo236 no it’s still a UVC connection. The USB-C to HDMI adapters don’t work on a UVC connection. You could however buy a UVC converter but they cost around $200.

[@pianoschoolroom179]

After updating to 9.6 on the extreme my boxes feature disappeared.

[@zephanmoses]

@@pianoschoolroom179 what do you mean boxes feature? You mean supersource?

[@CARfariPark]

Dude what's with the Christmas tunes. That track was available on Artlist in December under the festive option 😂

[@zephanmoses]

Didn’t seem to bother anyone else. New software updates are a gift these days…

[@CARfariPark]

@zephanmoses 👏🏻👏🏻😆 very good! Thanks for the overview.

[@VegasDominic]

Quicktime on Mac to see the live multiview - What about windows? QuickTime as well? 😊

[@zephanmoses]

OBS could do it or anything that allows you to view a USB camera feed.

[@glynnetolar4423]

Tried the new update. Caused the control software to stop seeing the mini pro. So had to downgrade. I did what another KZbinr suggested and contacted support. They were NOT helpful. Only saying, it should work. Thanks a lot!

[@zephanmoses]

@@glynnetolar4423 as with any update always proceed with caution and rarely should you be the first to test it out.

[@JAmediaUK]

I have an ATEM Mini (NOT pro or Extreme) and yet again no update...... It NEVER pays to be an early adopter of any BMD hardware

[@zephanmoses]

The atem mini hardware can only do so much. It’s just important to upgrade as you can.

[@JAmediaUK]

@@zephanmoses not much point in updating the software. It is getting bigger with lots more functions for hardware I don't have. As I said never be an early adopter of BMD HW as they are likely more likely to do a new version than update the one you bought

[@zephanmoses]

@@JAmediaUK I'm imagining a 4K model but probably won't see that happen until late this year or next year. I don't think they're racing to make the leap and most platforms aren't supporting 4K streaming anyways.

[@glynnetolar4423]

Fortunately there's competition in this space now. So it will force BMD to up their game. Because they've been lacking useful features that they want to sell you on their MUCH not expensive hardware.

[@JAmediaUK]

@@glynnetolar4423 I will never buy any new hardware models from BMD. I will wait until they have done at least one update to it. Being an early adopter means you are a Guinea pig and paying for the privilege. They may or may not update the HW you have or as in the case of the ATEM take all the feedback and put it in a new model, leaving all the early adopters high and dry. It would be good if they did a buyback-upgrade

[@kyle8198]

no love for the atem mini basic though :( Probably time I upgrade lol

[@zephanmoses]

Can only expect so much out of their original product. It was never meant to evolve that much without needing additional hardware.

[@markhepi7791]

You need to have your YT account accepted for SRT streaming.

[@zephanmoses]

Yea, mine is accepted already 🙂

[@karlenballen3014]

Thanks for the update! Just to clarify-does this new feature only allow output selection for the USB-C port? If that's the case, does that mean we can’t record to an SSD from the ATEM while also using the computer for Software Control and Multiview? I want to make sure it's possible to do both at the same time.

[@zephanmoses]

It depends what model you have. If you have an ATEM that only has one USB-C port, you can only do one thing with it - either output a video signal or record to a SSD, but it's only one output so you cannot do both at the same time. If you have an extreme model ATEM, it has two USB outputs so you can use one for a video signal and one for the SSD recordings.

[@RyanShewchuk]

After upgrading the software, camera control doesn’t work with my BM Studio cams. Haven’t had time to troubleshoot

[@zephanmoses]

Interesting - that’s a good one to be aware of.

[@_marcopalomo]

That’s what I thought happened to mine as well. Let me know if you figure it out!

[@cyabongampaul]

its on the settings, you need to specify which connection it is connected to

[@RyanShewchuk]

Yep, had to go in the settings and choose camera models for each input. Thanks!

[@64dr64d]

Super excited for SRT and disabling ftb.

[@zephanmoses]

I have SRT enabled on my KZbin but need to test in the coming weeks.

[@khklavs]

I've always put FTB to 10 sek, and used it as a marker on my timeline 😅

[@TheBadicker]

hi, is there any template for Instagram and tiktok ?

[@zephanmoses]

@@TheBadicker template for what?

[@nakipila1318]

Does this update mean you can now record Program feed to disk via USB and view Multiview from the HDMI out and use Ethernet for network connection? How would you control the ATEM during streaming if recording to disk via USB? Is that a 2-way channel?

[@zephanmoses]

@@nakipila1318 this was always the case on the atem mini pro and up. This update doesn’t change that. You were always able to record program to SSD, multiview over hdmi and encode over Ethernet. If you wanted to control the atem, you’d connect it to an Ethernet switch and connect a computer to the same switch. If they’re on the same network they can see each other. This is all documented in the atem manual.

[@nakipila1318]

@@zephanmoses Thank you !!

[@scottmason7346]

The new features are just the ones I use REALLY

[@pet1err]

will the update work on atem mini ? ( not pro or ISO )

[@zephanmoses]

ATEM Mini Pro ATEM Mini Pro ISO ATEM Mini Extreme ATEM Mini Extreme ISO ATEM SDI Pro ISO ATEM SDI Extreme ISO

[@glynnetolar4423]

I'm afraid the mini had been abandoned.

[@zephanmoses]

@@glynnetolar4423 the mini can only do so much with limited hardware. It was their first device in the series.

[@enregistreur]

Nice recap, thanks !

[@eagletechnology9033]

Hello, my Atem mini Extreme Iso don’t have sound anymore, mic 1 and 2 and hdmi, no sound at All. Please how to solve it ?

[@zephanmoses]

There’s no way I could possibly answer this without more information. I don’t know how you are feeding sound into the atem or what cables you are using. You need to do some basic troubleshooting and follow the signal path to test it at various points. If those inputs are set to On, check if they are receiving levels in the atem software control in the audio tab. If they’re not getting anything then you need to trace the signal back to the source and find out why the sound isn’t getting to the atem.

[@TsioryRazafimanantsoa]

What interests me most is the live accessibility of the registered ISOs. From what I've seen, you can access the growing file via your computer. Given that davinci can output a clean feed, theoretically you could do an instant replay by editing in resolve and sendind the clean feed to the ATEM, right?

[@zephanmoses]

Yes that’s the intended use. For me though I’ve never had a single use for replay since I don’t do sports. With the questionable reliability of SSD iso recording I wouldn’t feel comfortable touching the growing files or accessing the SSD while recording.

[@Shining_Stars_101]

@@zephanmoses Can you recored the program while using the usb to output the multyview?

[@zephanmoses]

@@Shining_Stars_101 depends on the model atem you have. If you have an extreme then yes.

[@infinitudedc]

This is a huge update in my opinion. Quality of life improvements are always welcomed!

[@zephanmoses]

Indeed.

[@mariotriforce]

Not even mentioning bmcloud functionality

[@zephanmoses]

I did mention. I said that it’s not a part of my workflow. I also did a full screenshot of the features Blackmagic listed.

[@calebwabwire4081]

Looking for Dante and Ndi capabilities

[@zephanmoses]

They have Madi in the bigger switchers. But NDI is owned by Newtek so not going to happen.

[@SirJulianTaylor]

I’m very anxious to try the SRT streaming to my Streaming Bridge. Really hoping the delay is barely noticeable to those watching.

[@zephanmoses]

In theory it should be much nicer but only time will tell.

[@SirJulianTaylor]

@@zephanmoses Looks like a little more time to find out. According to a post in BM Support, they are still working on updates for some of their products and the Streaming Bridge cannot yet receive SRT from ATEM Mini Pro, so we are asked to be patient. For now, looks like I am limited to about 320 milliseconds delay.

[@bubba90]

Is the USB-C display update only available to see on a computer screen? I wonder if you can use a Blackmagic Monitor adapter with USB-C and connect to a monitor

[@zephanmoses]

It’s usb into a computer as a webcam capture. You can’t do usb directly to a usb monitor. That’s why I used QuickTime on a Mac but you can use OBS on a PC.

[@bubba90]

@@zephanmoses Gotcha. Just wishful thinking. Thanks!

[@cnex101]

What platforms allow for SRT Streaming? Has it been widely available and I'm just missing it?

[@zephanmoses]

KZbin recently opened it up (invite only - I received an invite). But there's Castr and a few others that are starting to incorporate it.

[@cnex101]

@@zephanmoses I would love to use SRT for my weekly stream! The moment I receive word that YT opens it up to general public, I'll start testing it out!

[@mattmcc33]

@veercast allows SRT Ingest, even for free trial accounts.

[@CorporateMotions]

I use my USB-C port to record directly to an external hard drive, if I use the USC feature for multi-view can I still record the program only as an output?

[@ismaeldjama3208]

yes

[@CorporateMotions]

@@ismaeldjama3208 I just tried it, but the record button isn't enabled. So it wont work for me

[@ismaeldjama3208]

@@CorporateMotions kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3yXhGetp9KbfJY&ab_channel=AaronParecki

[@zephanmoses]

Kind of. I’m assuming you have an atem mini pro? Since you only have one usb port, you would need to record either 1) via hdmi out into a recording device or 2) using something like Restream for your encoding so it records anyways. It’s a bit tougher with that setup without extra gear.

[@vivamoment]

Nice video. Thanks. Just a question since on Windows Quicktime does not display webcam outputs. Is there another program on Windows that can display webcams to make this work?

[@zephanmoses]

OBS, Zoom, Teams, anything that can take a webcam feed.

[@vivamoment]

​​@@zephanmosesthanks for your reply. OBS is great to produce webcam outputs but is a massive program on screen just to display a webcam output. Similarly for Zoom or Teams. My question, to the general group, is whether they know of a simple lightweight Windows app to simply display a webcam feed into a window?

[@zephanmoses]

@@vivamoment OBS is actually fairly lightweight to be honest and you can adjust screen size pretty easily.

[@vivamoment]

Really? Is it possible to use OBS to display a webcam the full size of the window? Can you give me directions please as this would help a lot

[@zephanmoses]

@@vivamoment right click on it and select full screen projector preview: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWa0ZaaglK-Ngassi=d9PK02tmuYIqla0U