Is Tifo Football’s FM Guide Good?

[@j-simmo1881]

Tifo’s next video: ‘Are Zealand’s FM videos actually any good?’

[@jvtagle]

That’s Tifo IRL’s job

[@Roscododger]

Alternate title: Zealand desperately trying to save his job for 21 minutes straight

[@DarthAnimal]

"I agree with that" x8

[@vliemek]

Oh no no

[@thembabarry5126]

z i love you but you did not "create" this in-swinging near post corner routine, its fairly straightforward to anyone who has ever played

[@Roscododger]

@@thembabarry5126 Not for me. I had far post corners until that Zealand video. Ollie Dixon used his corner routine in his save. Not long after that video, Zealand did a streamer showdown, used that corner routine and it became the meta. Maybe Tifo and The FM Podcast didn't copy Zealand but there are very traceable lines between the 2.

[@thembabarry5126]

@@Roscododger like sure in real life some people prefer near post some people prefer far post, but if you're gonna do a near post one it's gonna look like that 😂 z laughs when they say strikers at the back post and 2 players back it's like wtf literally the most standard thing it's no surprise it works - it is a simulator lmao

[@haziqbambam]

Best tip to get better at football manager? Roleplay as a time travelling wizard who keeps going back in time to fix his mistakes.

[@daemian550]

I feel a throwback to the time i played the euro league quarters 10 times over cause i “didn’t agree with the result”

[@joshdransfield754]

Go time wizard!

[@EmpEcropEco]

Lol my first time playing fm was fm19 with Liverpool and no matter what I did in the tactics or who I put on the field I kept losing against United and Pogba specifically kicks my butt. On my last attempt where I was like, if I lose then fuck it I'm moving on, I won somehow.

[@HonestlyBenjamin]

It worked wonders for Bill Murray tbf

[@DavidKohout]

Thats FM18 me. Hate that guy

[@joemarvin4525]

Getting ‘Jealous ex girlfriend scrolling through her ex’s Instagram and slagging off his new girl’ vibes from Zealand in this video

[@DarthAnimal]

He is definitely threatened by the larger channel

[@ZealandonYT]

Let's be honest I'm threatened by Joe Devine's voice alone

[@timothymoss4945]

You mean the Olivia Rodrigo effect, good 4 U!

[@ryanrvs4329]

Z: “My goal is to be able to animate these concepts with the editorial team in the future” Reece: *quivers and cold sweats all over

[@Roscododger]

I know this is a joke but in all seriousness, Reece has said in the past that he'd like to be the head of an editorial team. Not necessarily the main editor doing every video. Also, he just signed a new contract so he's not going anywhere.

[@reintaler6355]

@@Roscododger star player playing time surely?

[@Maurinuus]

The video is based on a FM podcast by The Athletic made with Sport interactive, it is quite good, each episode features a different employee of SI, even after playing over a 1000 hours each year, I learned a lot. It is called "The Football Manager Show by The Athletic".

[@user-jp3hc4ux4e]

Is it on spotify??

[@Maurinuus]

@@user-jp3hc4ux4e yes it is. open.spotify.com/show/4ydzQn06umgV06DnFyEuEV?si=R9jk0_lMQnmKLKno1pE1AQ&dl_branch=1

[@thesmeeth]

The Athletic also have a Football Manager podcast, which is interesting because they get plenty of FM employees on it.

[@careychurchillkenarthur5478]

What is the name?

[@ethanfunnell6951]

What’s it called?

[@thesmeeth]

@@careychurchillkenarthur5478 The Football Manager Show

[@f.f5771]

Zealand should guest on it

[@ichnehmzweidoener9939]

Great podcast got many good tips from it

[@ggmu4656]

I dont know whether I am more suprized with Tifo making a video on FM Or Zealand making one on Tifo But regardless I will take them both

[@mahomednaheez9862]

Back when it was Umaxit they had a FM series. One of their collaborators would try to recreate the tactics that the main guy would talk about.

[@charlie1029able]

Tifo: here's a fun video based on our podcast on the athletic Zealand: *NERVOUS SWEATING*

[@Sponjarvis]

That corner routine is the most common sense one FM players have be implementing for years yet here we have people now claiming credit for it like it is some sort of genius creation.

[@KlokStudios]

Yeah I won't lie Ive been playing FM since 2012 and the old guides back then told you to aim corners at the near post. Maybe it's the specifics that people have tweaked but near post corner routine had been around for a while.

[@AntonyStrus]

Your job is safe. I did see the Tifo video first, but it lef me to your channel. FM is such an in depth game and it needs some real in depth explanations to really understand how to do well - which is what you provide.

[@devileh]

Traits are great. I train "Uses outside of foot" for one footed players as long as their stats let them do so. Also, the art and Devine's voice are 75% of why I watch Tifo.

[@ryzigg7187]

“The game series adapts to the choices you make The story is tailored by how you play” Tifo got FM sounding like a telltale game

[@cvetomirgeorgiev9106]

I doubt anything by Tifo will be bad, but let's see

[@StarryNightSky587]

Zealand 2021: "Playing higher line is always better" *laughs in Tuchel*

[@tomvanemmerik3273]

Tifo and Zealand (+ 2) literally are my 2 favorite channels. Not tryna be a fanboy. Tifo makes the best football related videos and your channel is all about the game I love the most! Happy I ve come across your channel like 1,5 years ago! We love you, bye

[@matthewsouthcott1987]

The warm hands and cool embrace of Zealand.

[@hj-hv6rt]

"There is no magic formation" Haha 4231 gegenpress go brrrrrrrr

[@fisheatsyourhead]

I'd like to introduce you to 5212 wb vertical tiki taka

[@hj-hv6rt]

Not trying to be a jerk, but from my experience it feels like you're actively handicapping yourself by trying to play anything other than a high pressing system. No matter if you're a good team or an underdog. And it's kinda overstating the quality of the match engine to claim otherwise.

[@edwardking9359]

@@hj-hv6rt If you're by far the better team a possession based tactic can be super fun. I ran a possession based tactic with one lone striker for a while as Manchester City and it worked incredibly well

[@kasimirtg4375]

@@edwardking9359 this is true. I run a Vertical Tika - Taka with BATE and own the league. It even works fine against low second, upper third tier teams from the big 5 leagues. You just gotta spend a bit more time searching for the players that fit your system.

[@Taeerom]

@@edwardking9359 Gegenpressing is a possesion based tactic. You aim to restrict how much the opposition has the ball. What does underperform is the low-possession systems, like counterattacking low press, long ball systems. It worked well earlier, especially with fast strikers. But now, you gotta press high and own the ball.

[@Marcus1Arelius3]

I almost spit my tea out when you said “I found a new Brazilian… come ‘ere lad” 😭😭😭

[@matthewsouthcott1987]

I love Tifo but have found alot of the FM stuff is fine but quite broad and not as much depth as I like but I am a hardcore FM player so realise this is not the audience they are aiming this at.

[@Pyrrho66]

“Making too many changes too often”...you didn’t have to call out WorkTheSpace like that 😂

[@DehumanisedOnYT]

They definitely didn't copy you... I have my corner routine set up pretty much exactly like this without having seen your guide to it. It's pretty much just a common sense way to do it!

[@paymonhashemi6892]

This video was good for a newer or non FM player. Iain Macintosh had a series of podcasts about some of the game’s finer points - worth a listen. This is kinda the executive summary with Joe’s perfect voice. The best guidance on the pod and video was the set piece guidance which I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a distillation of on your and Kevin Chapman’s channels.

[@yoyisanogu9251]

his voice is like an angel whisper to our ears

[@BigShotJD]

mum dad please dont fight

[@medicineinarabic]

doesn't matter how high quality content I'd found on youtube about FM, I prefer this channel. I learned everything in this game here ❤️

[@nicbritz1294]

I recently moved to Geleen in Holland. Went to my local club FC Geleen Zuid yesterday. Went to watch the u13s playing. They had this wonder kid who is tall, athletic striker in the same mold as Drogba. He was released last season at a pro club. He has all the attributes a FM manager would fall over for. Would love to coach this team. So I c live my FM dream in real life.

[@StrangeClothes]

Testing a tactic with the reserves was fucking genius

[@emmettforrestel1071]

(In heavy New Jersey accent) Zealand, baby, what a wonderful video.

[@matthewwilliams7311]

Watched a few of your videos, very helpful, then watched this one and laughed, Joe Divine is something else isn't he!, subscribed because of this and wanted to say enjoy your content! keep it up!

[@HCMCDrives]

Big Tifo fan, but when their first comment was "there's no secret formation", i was like, nah. There is. It may change with each update, but every update has a magic formation.

[@sld1776]

1) Three center backs is harder to make work in every version of the game. 2) The 4-3-3 is always one of the best formations. Since at least FM11.

[@makchot3263]

@@sld1776 5-4-1 wing play formation one of the best ones I've ever used cause there's a lot of space down the flanks and it would draw in the fullback, leaving space for my attackers to exploit

[@joeschmoe2030]

Don't pick any Italians on your next FM save - I heard they were on a downward spiral lately and wouldn't make it past the round of 16 in any major tournament.

[@Yafama]

To be fair Italians in my game have had a total renaissance and are about to leapfrog la liga. Bundesliga is about to fall out of the top 5 though :(

[@thie9781]

I was sceptical at Tifo for that video, glad Zealand makes a judgement

[@shahir1395]

Joe would curse my whole family and would still be music to my ears...

[@brainbox2067]

You need to do a testing league for the most popular Player Traits, that would be sick!

[@PepeSilvia6721]

Z talks about his near post corners like he reinvented the wheel and no one else would’ve thought of it, it’s all just common sense hahaha

[@isaactaylor9266]

Exactly like get over yourself bro

[@ZealandonYT]

nO

[@medicineinarabic]

just calm down

[@winter_656]

tifo football is an elite S tier KZbin channel for football nerds

[@newbieboka]

Please do stuff with the TIFO Football manager pod - the host is absolutely fantastic

[@uranderson]

You can and should put two players on lurk outside the box on attacking corners. It makes it twice as likely your guys will get to the long middle clearance before whichever defender is set on top of the box duty. And yes they should be fast and good defensively in space. I think anticipation helps a lot too.

[@imambruonyibnhowmasalstryn2659]

Wow my favorite football manager channel reviewing my favorite football channel

[@user-tv7jc4rw3o]

Alice Devine directs their graphics/illustration (yes she's Joe the presenter's sister)

[@Hyde_Hill]

Funny thing about the don't put both sides on attack. Rate My Tactic based on FM tactics actually does say to do this as otherwise the winger won't have enough attacking support.

[@thellamaqueen4270]

Damn he in Tifo has such amazing radio voice

[@AyeHumps]

In regard to the last point Ian on the Athletic FM pod mentioned he used your set piece guide actually

[@NoDirtyVids]

I believe it was Iain Mackintosh that used to help write bits for the Football Ramble podcast before he joined The Athletic. Also, Tifo plus Zealand would be good.

[@jasonthomas4164]

Love tifo videos and the information they provide.Not sure how this one will help on FM but i'll guess i'll find out

[@pbh81]

Got into tifo because of football manager 2020

[@apjsard1]

Ian Macintosh is the guy who does the FM podcast for The Athletic. It's pretty good but I don't think he's done any collab with any FM youtube/twitch content creators, yet....

[@OrangeBananaPear]

It’s to do with copyright as the youtubers use the badge and kit packs. SI won’t let any sort of collab after the Man Utd issue.

[@darrenwright6263]

Ian McIntosh did a very interesting FM podcast - The Football Manager Show. Had some interesting interviews with staff from FM, well worth a binge.

[@cannsawv2]

did they just call FM set pieces rewarding!? i could score 6 set piece goals in a champions league final against Real Madrid and that endless dragging and switching between left/right/attack/defend/direct/indirect/throws/corners for every game will still just be a massive laborious chore. #1 thing that needs reworking in the game

[@rickynetogoat5769]

Mostly Every team in the existence of football: plays 2 quick defenders back on set pieces and corners. Zealand: They copied me!! 😨😨

[@chifumujmanda7643]

16:10 Joe Devine's sister (can't remember her name) is one of the lead illustrators for tifo...Joe mentioned during the 1 million subscribers video that she, along with a few others, do the drawings for the videos

[@sirprintalot]

I love the TIFO guys voice, especially compared to the voices on the two HITC channels.

[@dhaisa]

Waiting for more tips and tricks videos from you Zedland... ❣

[@abstellkarma3072]

I think the person drawing for tifo is (joe's sister) Alice Devine. I remember hearing about in on their podcast

[@miketernan6722]

Haha. Saw the Tifo video other day and instantly thought of Zealand.. Was like.. do one Tifo! Leave it to the professional!!!

[@junesee4227]

Zealand ReactLord Arc lets go!!!

[@aronaranyossy]

To answer your question: this was illustrated by Philippe Fenner

[@KielEire]

Their podcast on FM is really good too even if you are decently experienced

[@bigmaguire9714]

Bro tip: Having better players is more effective than a better tactic

[@kimkong86]

4231 gegenpress is not always the best but it is broken cause it works everytime with every team. Hope they fix this for the next game.

[@harrierjames7727]

How about staffing preferences - especially the formation and tactic they prefer. Does this have any tangible influence on the effect of training in game? If I play a 4-2-3-1 Vertical Tiki Taka, am I absolutely bonkers to appoint an Assistant manager and coach that favour 3-5-2 Catenaccio?

[@mauromertens9368]

New vid lessgoooo!!!!

[@khotsodirane600]

Tifo are 100% right! No questions asked

[@rgxwrestlingmedia]

*Immediately loads up set pieces section in FM*

[@brianbru]

To be fair to tifo i've been doing the near post corner routine since like, FM 12, only difference is - i'm pretty sure back in those days it was effectively a bug eploit

[@GM-tw4el]

Anyone else an FM mobile player only and too used to winning absolutely everything with minimal effort, leaving you totally incapable of playing the full version ? I've won 9 champion's league's back to back with Northampton, but tried a friendly on my friends full version as real Madrid playing Cowdenbeath and struggled to get a 0-0 draw 😂 haven't played proper FM since 2011 and it's changed so much.

[@not2sharpmd]

Interesting. I wonder if the Schalke guy they referenced for their near post corner tip at the end actually watched your video and then went and posted about it and they just saw his thing and not where he got it from.

[@eriklucas8423]

Zealand you should use an app or something to show the 22 players positionings while talking about tactics. It helps convey how plays play out much better

[@michealdy1]

Miss every game for their sister's birthday lol

[@Tangeni.]

I love watching tifo football

[@mussey123]

“Fat Ronaldo”?! Have some god damn respect Zealand. That’s the phenomenon to you 😉

[@NotoriousNR3]

My Football Manager content creator! Zealand is a don!

[@jamezmcc]

In fairness to Tifo I've never watched your Set Piece video or looked at your corner routines on stream and THAT is almost exactly the attacking routine I created when FM21 came out lol think it's all pretty much trial and error and/or common sense

[@edwardharrison1471]

Ian Mackintosh hosts the FM podcast I think

[@joseplluissans]

Zealand acting like there aren't thousands of chaps like him in the UK.

[@bevan185]

the corner routine seems like common sense to me idk

[@vex3825]

Z by himself in FM guides Also Z: why do I hear boss music?

[@ToTheNines87368]

I love you Zealand but I still don’t understand how you can afford an “editorial team” based on a somewhat niche game like football manager to begin with. Maybe your patreon is huge and you sell a ton of merch. You definitely deserve to. Edit: doesn’t even seem like you have a patreon

[@salexa171]

Really hope we see back 3 formations being more viable at some point.

[@aristaeus2514]

Tifo: "Hey SI i want to make a FM vid.. what should i say?"

[@lukaluka4868]

Changing formation every games so they dont know my next move

[@chilldude97183]

hahahha i tried so hard to build tactics using tifo videos and got so far but in the end it doesent even work how I intended :D but I love tifo good boyyyyyzzz

[@tyneskipper]

yo Z. Iain McIntosh wrote a book called "football manager ruined my life"

[@ChesterRGC]

There's only 9 players at that corner routine, but I guess the 10th will be moving outside of the area

[@Britonbear]

I've been aiming corners at back post with some success. I think I'll try near post now.

[@rachitdang7453]

I think playing IF/IW and CWB (support) works well.

[@rammingtime]

Last time I was this early I didn't know this channel

[@tamagonbagel6569]

Someone make a table of contents for every time Z gets distracted off topic in this video

[@KiNASuki]

Zealand vs JJ when? Or vs Seb? Or Alex? Or Joe?

[@juanpabloperezgomez4349]

He could join the Bundesliga Challenge...

[@Zeerse_Chef]

That Tifo guide auto-played while I was doing something else and I thought how dull and uninformative it was.

[@tobehonestidontknow9368]

Blue light is used in morgues etc

[@rakiatime8179]

a lot of things in this video i strongly disagree with, breaking the game is still possible, i wouldnt play if it wasnt, you dont need multiple tactics or to make changes to your tactic, you need one very attacking tactic that breaks the game, when taking over a new team you don't need to take it slow and see what works, you need to punt all the players out the door and buy ones that fit your game breaking tactic

[@Funartic]

There aren't any game breaking tactics anymore in the newer FMs anymore, the success of a tactic just depends on how well your players fit in it and how well it matches up against your opposition.

[@fisheatsyourhead]

attacking football with worse players than the opposition is an easy way to get steamrolled. in older FMs you could go with certain tactics that made you very likely to win even against far better teams man for man, and you can't do that in 21. even the best tactics get about 2 points per game if you aren't clear favourites in terms of personnel

[@maxlloyd4219]

@@Funartic strukerless formations say hi

[@themacias]

For me the funniest part is that Zealand a boy who plays FM for maybe like 2 days claims he invented a tactic which was played in real life and in Managers for a very long time. Isn't Z younger than FM/CM series?

[@TheSilentScreamX]

"You can't break the game anymore" I'd like to agree, but all the best formations right now are stupid strikerless setups that do exactly that because the AI can't deal with them.

[@lancetanui3438]

That’s kind of realistic man city dominated with no striker this year and Chelsea played with no real striker a lot under tuchel and they won Europe

[@Yafama]

@@lancetanui3438 True but if wolverhampton wonderers suddenly changed to strikerless they aren’t reaching cl spots

[@andrewt836]

The Tifo guy sounds like Alain de Botton

[@TheGroundHopper]

Player traits tier list please 🙏

[@ruben1o]

That set piece is the same from fm12

[@Byrthor]

I feel like they are calling me out with the corner tactics tip. I have defender score 20 goals multiple seasons in a row because of this

[@wwaarrddy]

He sounds like the guy from Watchfinder.