Prime: "You're just not good enough at Vim." Thorsten: "Here are two things you didn't know about Vim." Prime: 🤯
@no_name47964 ай бұрын
Prime got owned there lol What an amazing moment!
@frndstp4 ай бұрын
timestamp?
@BFedie5184 ай бұрын
@@frndstp 32:15
@adriansrfr4 ай бұрын
When someone shows you useless tricks
@SambodhiBhattacharyya03 ай бұрын
I is pretty useful if you want to make comment banners Ex. 80i#Esc
@cag14 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that Prime can actually listen and gives the guest room to elaborate his thoughts.
@cag14 ай бұрын
I also appreciate a German SWE getting praise by Prime (I'm German myself).
@danielmajer16484 ай бұрын
Have you seen when he "tried to learn next.js"? He ended up talking about vim and rust after every 5 minutes.
@BFedie5184 ай бұрын
A tip for people struggling with the delete/yank/paste thing: register 0 always has the last thing you yanked. Bind a shortcut to "0p (include the double-quote) to paste from there (I use p but you could overwrite the default p behavior if you want).
@haloboy7774 ай бұрын
That's really helpful! Thanks man!
@marloelefant75003 ай бұрын
Isn't this the default for p? When I yank a line, I can paste it with p.
@BFedie5183 ай бұрын
@@marloelefant7500 If you yank a line with y, delete a different line with d, then paste with p, what gets pasted is what you deleted--not what you yanked.
@Paintballman2513 ай бұрын
@@marloelefant7500 if you delete something in between a yank and a paste it will paste the thing you deleted, so to make sure you paste the thing you yanked, you would do "0p
@kirur1323 ай бұрын
@@marloelefant7500 p is pasting thing from unnamed register, which stores last thing you yanked, deleted or changed, 0 register stores only yanked thing
@joffreybluthe79064 ай бұрын
Thorsten really seems like a super cool guy, and I've been really enjoying how he's been documenting stuff at Zed in videos. That's really awesome that they talk about what they are building and their process, that's not very common but I think that's super interesting to hear!
@Sugmatron4 ай бұрын
You joke around at the end about knowing the stock Vim/Vi config and saving lives. But it isn't always an exaggeration. In hospitals many critical systems are certified medical devices, meaning that most configurations cannot legally be changed. You're working with stock, and every second counts.
@ArturdeSousaRocha4 ай бұрын
Makes me think of POSIX vs. GNU. Bash and gawk are great but you should be able to survive without all their extensions.
@rusi62194 ай бұрын
Any software that doesn't offer reasonably satisfiable defaults really shouldn't be given anyone's time of day.
@andrewhennis17864 ай бұрын
I can’t get over that one chatter asking if Zed is the HAWK TUA girl of editors
@sagoez4 ай бұрын
LOL
@Microphunktv-jb3kj4 ай бұрын
"Zed is a high-performance, multiplayer code editor from the creators of Atom and Tree-sitter." Atom was complete garbage.... im not having high hopes lol
@nathancooper10014 ай бұрын
@@Microphunktv-jb3kjAtom was great lol why'd you not like it?
@fauge74 ай бұрын
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj just try it.. It's a really great editor
@NoizyCr1cket4 ай бұрын
Even on tech KZbin I can't escape the HAWK TUAH!
@mvargasmoran4 ай бұрын
That "defusing a bomb with stock vim on a stock linux install" moment was pure genius (around 38:00)
@vaisakh_km4 ай бұрын
XD i was that guy for years... and then neovim 0.5 came...
@mvargasmoran4 ай бұрын
@@vaisakh_km hahahah that happens.
@no_name47964 ай бұрын
@@vaisakh_km yeah using neovim is like cheating in the analogy lol neovim >> vim (especially lua. Best decision ever!)
@poweruser644 ай бұрын
37:14 pure gold See also: XKCD 1168
@10produz904 ай бұрын
that colemak joke was so funny at the end
@jjamesmartiin4 ай бұрын
Had me rolling
@ivanjermakov4 ай бұрын
I died on 10gs
@ivanheffner25874 ай бұрын
I don’t know if I feel seen or called out. Having started on vi (before vim existed) and frequently logging into servers that I don’t have the Fs to give to sync a vimconfig over to, I mostly use default stock vim. Oh, but I use Dvorak because I learned that before all of these other colemak/workman/etc. variants existed. Damn, I’m old…
@Burgo3614 ай бұрын
The little part of my brain that says I should bring my own keyboard everywhere just got louder... on the other hand my keyboard is like 2kg so it's still balancing out for now.
@neppe40474 ай бұрын
@@ivanheffner2587 I finally decided to look into Colemak after this video but now you made me aware of Workman, damn it... I'm scared of going too deep into the rabbit hole. The thing is I frequently type in two different languages so it might make less sense for me to switch from QWERTY (ISO), compared to someone who only types in English, as these layouts seem to be optimized for English.
@ambhaiji4 ай бұрын
31:54 if the diff is not in red and green I cannot parse it. LMFAOOOOOOOO
@Mokeysurfer4 ай бұрын
I died, was about to comment something similar omg.
@zimdogmailАй бұрын
this the way
@mudi2000a4 ай бұрын
The zed editor might be nice but all of the collaborative features don't work if you don't have a team that all works on Mac. For a long time I have always worked in environments where both Windows and Linux are used depending on the requirements and preferences of the dev. Also Linux but that plays a smaller role where I work. Therefore for me a tool which is not cross platform does not exist.
@aquilafasciata57814 ай бұрын
They’re working on cross platform and you can currently build from source for Win and Linux
@pwii4 ай бұрын
@@aquilafasciata5781 pre-compiled packages are also available at least on Arch.
@Daddie04 ай бұрын
@@aquilafasciata5781 There's also an install script at zedDOTdev/installDOTsh
@mudi2000a4 ай бұрын
@@aquilafasciata5781 that's very good news :) Was aware of Linux, obviously, because of the video. But I have some hardcore Windows users in the team which are sometimes difficult to convince.
@bluelinden4 ай бұрын
@@aquilafasciata5781Zed is in nixpkgs as `zed-editor` and it seems to be mostly functional
@RedOchsenbein4 ай бұрын
'10gs' just blew my mind.
@no_name47964 ай бұрын
i need that command in real life lol
@danzorxx2 ай бұрын
@@no_name4796 I use it in my case if i do pomodoro, i set break for 5mins that makes 300s, so I do :sl 300
@kj_sh6044 ай бұрын
I see that the Vim mode for Zed is more of a Vim Motions "reimplementation" rather than Vim Emulation like we find in something like Visual Studio (not code) where it literally parses a .vimrc and even some plugins (I once got coc.nvim and NerdTree to work on it, albeit VERY glitchy 😂). I believe a "reimplementation" is totally fine and I think if they can get it to how the Kate text editor has their VI mode and indicate on their page what does NOT work. I think they can have a pretty viable Vim-mode! Awesome stuff 🙏🏽. Zed is becoming more and more intriguing by the day.
@no_name47964 ай бұрын
tbf, the vscode extension is basically hacked into vscode. Zed implementation makes more sense, as they are trying to integrate vim motions, not just smack them in and call it a day Also how do plugins run in vscode neovim extension? neovim has a flag to disable plugins, i thought they would use it. Otherwise i can see problems like double completions (one from vscode and one from neovim) lol
@spoofer91133 ай бұрын
I was coc.nvim uptil now, lspzero with mason is like mindblowing!! After an hour it was easy with lua for me. I had my own looong vim script.
@TremereTT4 ай бұрын
Never do math on camera...
@ivanjermakov4 ай бұрын
The problem with n?vim support is that every setup is different. The only way to port my nvim workflow to Zed is to support nvim's Lua API and plugin ecosystem, which is not feasible. EDIT: kinda mentioned at 28:20
@no_name47964 ай бұрын
just deal with it: only vim and neovim 100% support all vim motions. Already things like macros, jumps and stuff like that is not supported in many editors. Which is why i now hate vim integration in editors. I am used to do tons of stuff that most vim integrations do not allow
@kabukitheater90464 ай бұрын
if it has first-class support for vim motions and all the mainstream LSPs i'm moving over
@thorstenball57734 ай бұрын
It does! Come over!
@sempiternal_futility4 ай бұрын
@@thorstenball5773 how many LSPs though?
@Theraot4 ай бұрын
The real way to visualize diffs is with the drake meme.
@jacobleslie80564 ай бұрын
I've run usability tests on CLI tools and it is mind blowing. tested docs and also actually using the tool. also usability tested library implementations down to function names for packages that are going to be used by other people. amazing experience.
@artscollab4 ай бұрын
Obsession with editors is just a way to procrastinate about doing the actual work of programming.
@someoneyouveneverheardof4 ай бұрын
Sure obsession about anything is bad. A bit of play and fun is okay IMO.
@paulhuang20304 ай бұрын
Unless you work at zed!
@tobyfrancisv3 ай бұрын
Let us have something man our jobs are tiring.
@Sound_.-Safari4 ай бұрын
All of my X11 interactions have been pretty sweet. Much better than MacOS/Windows. Has some really nifty CLI tools for debugging. Might be a nightmare in rust though, I’ve never had to make GUIs from scratch at a low level
@samsinite1004 ай бұрын
Been using this editor for two months now, it works great! Not perfect, but much better than expected for its age. I quite like it’s vim mode better than vscode, and it generally feels faster.
@ThomasWSmith-wm5xn4 ай бұрын
I really want to like zed and I will be able to completely switch if they can get auto close and rename tags to work. Its suuuch a basic thing that absolutely wrecked me when I tried ~working~ with zed. I also really don't like the AI integration, they are trying to shove down my throat.
@حَسَنْ-ب1م2ذ4 ай бұрын
Colemak MENTIONED. LET'S GOOO
@OnStageLighting4 ай бұрын
5 days late and totally came down below the line for this comment.
@حَسَنْ-ب1م2ذ4 ай бұрын
🤜🤛 lol @@OnStageLighting
@AM-yk5yd4 ай бұрын
I'm not downloading zed after reading issue 12589, "Zed downloads NodeJS binary and npm packages from Internet without user’s consent"
@jdsmedley4 ай бұрын
Don’t know the details here, but isn’t that normal for software with dependencies?
@gregjor4 ай бұрын
@@jdsmedley only if you expect software written in Javascript
@amadeusk5254 ай бұрын
@@jdsmedleyAbsolutely not lol
@ivanjermakov4 ай бұрын
@@jdsmedley don't tell people saying no to this what their favorite multiplayer games and its anti-cheats do on their PCs.
@eatthemalive934 ай бұрын
Somewhat normal for easier LSP management. Setting them up manually kinda sucks
@CodemanBen4 ай бұрын
I'm seeing a bit of ... not hate in the comments but let's call is skepticism. Skepticism is the better default, but I think we need to hand it to the guys at Zed - they've made something pretty special. Before I was flicking between Neovim, Jet Brains IDEs and VSCode. I'm really enjoying Zed as my daily driver. Great work everyone involved
@LosFarmosCTL4 ай бұрын
only thing that’s stopping me from trying it as a daily driver is the support for other LSPs than the ones they hardcoded in, as soon as that’s there I’m definitely going to try it
@lifelover694 ай бұрын
happy that you found something you like. might give Zed a shot myself when it matures a bit
@CodemanBen4 ай бұрын
@@LosFarmosCTL That's true. I haven't had to use any other than the already supported LSPs. I can see that being a turn off
@LosFarmosCTL4 ай бұрын
@@CodemanBen yup I 100% need the swift LSP, I have no issues with running tests from the terminal instead of an integrated test menu but without LSP no way, stuck on vscode for now
@explosionspin34224 ай бұрын
My issue is that many of the features I rely on the most (abbreviations, proper snippets (not the lsp-only crap they've implemented recently), and (marker based) folding) are not a thing in zed.
@arturwelp18774 ай бұрын
About the number and i. Sometimes I had a very big integer in the clipboard, pasting and pressing I in the wrong order was a 15 seconds of pain
@FreddyRangel854 ай бұрын
I loved this interview but I didn't walk away with a reason to switch from Vim to Zed. I spent a minute looking at Zed and still I don't get it
@TurtleKwitty4 ай бұрын
Had always been using just the "drop down" view in fugitive but that dv view is what I was looking for befor getting used to it hell yeah, thanks prime
@SimGunther4 ай бұрын
The "problem" with editors is that they're an implementor's dream, but an architect's not gonna want to do their boxes and arrows in the vi/vim or emacs family. Draw IO is the sort of thing that allows those boxes and arrows to be stored as XML and parsed with other tools that make code the implementor can run with to make their final code possible. Paul Tarvydas would be such an amazing guest to interview for his perspective on this kind of problem.
@bullpup13374 ай бұрын
If you think you cannot create architecture diagrams in Emacs you must have never seriously tried it.
@xxvmvxx4 ай бұрын
XML mentioned! brazil!!!
@Dipj014 ай бұрын
Draw io is the GOAT!
@vikingthedude4 ай бұрын
How much is Lucid paying gyou
@xxvmvxx4 ай бұрын
@@vikingthedude not enough to think xml is good, but if they want to send me money i'll gladly relearn html5 again for the 100th time but brazil is paying me
@VudrokWolf4 ай бұрын
Can you guys hear the crickets in the video? Around 8~11 minutes or maybe my marvelous EarPods have malfunctioning 😅
@rdmercer4 ай бұрын
i know in 2024 ppl dont really care about rotoscoping and greenscreen skills but Flip really upped the quality lately. These vids are so fresh and crisp I can taste the details! I bet even Prime licks his monitor. Like, doesn't everyone lick each one of Primes videos?
@gblenemy4 ай бұрын
Bruce Willis told me Zed's dead
@priapushk9964 ай бұрын
Selling to developers is a terrible business.
@FeLiNe4184 ай бұрын
How do you make business without selling something?
@random_bit4 ай бұрын
@@FeLiNe418 Well uhm, proprietary compilers died out for a reason
@FeLiNe4184 ай бұрын
@@random_bit take a look at kotlin. The compiler is free, but all the toolings are provided by jetbrains and they are all paid if you want to be productive.
@priapushk9964 ай бұрын
@@FeLiNe418 Precisely
@Jav202x4 ай бұрын
Borland used to be good
@FishKungfu4 ай бұрын
ed is the only official *nix text editor.
@pyqio4 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see when it's going to be available on Linux, and not only on MacOS, without having to build the source every time there's a new update available.
@mattymattffs4 ай бұрын
Yeah, like who the fuck uses mac os
@frozenn00b4 ай бұрын
@@mattymattffs people with way too much money on their hands.
@rusi62194 ай бұрын
Just compile it yourself
@frknue3 ай бұрын
@@mattymattffs People who have to get shit done
@olafhartong4 ай бұрын
Great interview, thanks for this one
@theodorealenas31714 ай бұрын
I thought the foundations would be built to make the editor a superset of Vim and Emacs. I thought that would be the easier way, because it would make other plugins easier too. Someone could make a helix plugin one day.
@snarkyboojum4 ай бұрын
Ah-ha! I have used a Vim command the primeagen hasn't - I've used 5i and similar before ;)
@Lucas2RC4 ай бұрын
I saw this one live. What a great interview, this man(other than Prime) is a sweetheart, a genius, a gentleman, a monk.
@coolemur9763 ай бұрын
red green diff is amazing. you take a glimpse and you know what's added what's removed. People with adhd might not like it because they can't focus on 2 colors at the same time.
@nescafezos4265Ай бұрын
I can say that I tried neovim because of specific reason - having IDE (better than just simple text editor with broken syntax highlighting) that works via SSH in console
@OnStageLighting4 ай бұрын
The thwarted Vi prepper actually used Colemak DH and didn't have their USB stick, so everyone died.
@tomtech15374 ай бұрын
vi prepper here.... back when you had to manage systems manually and you managed heterogenous environments (netbsd/freebsd/rhel/etc) you would run into issues if you got too clever, was just easier to know the lowest common denominator and suffer.
@cariyaputta4 ай бұрын
Nice Linux support, will definitely give Zed a try.
@眼無し難眼4 ай бұрын
I regularly do something like `println!("");`, put the cursor on the `"` and then do `50a*` and I have a nice line of 50 *s that I can easily find in the logs when they're spammy and I need to focus on a specific section I'm working on.
@pencilcheck4 ай бұрын
zed might be good but I don't know how to configure key binding to navigate splits
@natemaia92374 ай бұрын
As an X11 window manager author I feel the pain XD
@awokawok84534 ай бұрын
2:32 "but.. um" ☝🤓
@Burgo3614 ай бұрын
The colemak jab hurt, I was enjoying the video and just got smacked out of nowhere haha
@NFvidoJagg23 ай бұрын
The having to go on to a system with out your custom neovim/vim/vi configuration is real.
@ivanjermakov4 ай бұрын
18:50 In my opinion, using tabs in code editors is really inefficient, I'm surprised they've integrated tabs that deep into Zed's architecture. Recency sorted buffer list is better, file tree structure is also useful sometimes, but tabs are just too inconvenient to use: they take a lot of screen space, introduce mouse into the workflow and lack search and information density.
@nanthilrodriguez4 ай бұрын
I hate tabs. I have a current directory buffer and a recently opened buffer, in insert mode to immediately start typing the name of the buffer in interested in.
@PhaizKannon4 ай бұрын
Got to agree. I'm perpelxed why modern linux guis seem to all require tab-supporting capable terminals and text editors but understand its to appeal to users used to tabbed browsing. In the case of xterms, I install the invaluable package 'screen' as soon as I get linux installed so I can muliplex any of my terminals immediately. For a variety of benefits. Command lines that hang the terminal in the foreground are easily dealt with. (Ctrl-Z and bg work in this case but can trigger some complex tasks into thinking they're hung, assume they ran into errors, plus the issue of using a terminal while some background process that you thought would behave suddenly blurts out some random messages on stdout while you're trying to carefully put together a delicate command line. Screen lets you just open a new vt in a split second with three keypresses and keep working. I can detach my full sessions any time and reattach them through any tty, be it a gui in x, a text terminal, or an ssh or telnet session remotely, and I never fully use more than maybe six even when I've got a few relegated to monitoring tasks and a sudo bash terminal or two (not recommended to leave open like that, for security concerns) while tabbed tools with unlimited tabs encourage overloading yourself and leaving a headache to manage later if you have to pause your work or save your session. The idea of multiple interfaces grouped together is the powerful part of what tabs are. They don't need to stick out and be "tabs" and lose yet another precious few pixels to menubar bloat that requires you to manage yet another auto-hide setting if its even an option, or just permament work in a stunted space. Nobody should have to leave a list of current live sessions up to remind you there are multiple interfaces available when you're the one setting them up and coordinating them specifically for your current use, and if you've got a keyboard in front of you, navigating using it should be the most efficient choice. Tabbed terminals (and editors) copy multiplexers like screen but they also lock you in to their interface. Screen lists your current "screens" when ask to see them, by briefly listing them at the bottom of the screen, out of the way and secondary to your actual work at hand. That's how "tabs" should work imho. The tabs being the primary focus of what "tabs" are, is like calling gui windows "Titled rectangles" and missing the point that the window title is just there to organize the rectangles, not to take over as the primary detail to the point that you think of X, Windows, or MacOS as Titled Shape interface. I even prefer the layered windowing of old Turbo C and Turbo Pascal editors that used text mode box-character-drawn windowing, fully allowed you to swap between open source code editing, output windows, watch and debug, help files and code references, and tile, maximize, hide, or close those windows with keyboard commands if you don't want to reach for your mouse for some more precise layout control. The window list was always accessible off a menu if you needed to see what's currently open. I admit though, that I did switch from 80x25 to 80x50 text modes when coding because losing a few lines off the screen for the text "gui" was a little much.
@adriansrfr4 ай бұрын
Easier on the eyes?
@ivanjermakov4 ай бұрын
@@adriansrfr what tabs have to do with eyes?
@warpspeedscp3 ай бұрын
As long as the tabs have keyboard shortcuts, I'm happy.
@iasonmax34734 ай бұрын
I am just going to point out. Hoddie down looks mighty fine
@romangeneral234 ай бұрын
Emacs for LIFE!!!
@justanothercomment4164 ай бұрын
In general, every editor has been trailing emacs for decades. They all want to be emacs without telling people they want to be emacs.
@samsinite1004 ай бұрын
When you can run an OS in your editor, what else do you really need?
@awfultrash8884 ай бұрын
no substitute for Emacs, editor from the 70s
@zZGzHD4 ай бұрын
i will always use magit tho
@justanothercomment4164 ай бұрын
@@zZGzHD magit and org mode are amazingly good
@danzorxx2 ай бұрын
I always hide my buffer, I can see buffer list by :ls , move into hidden buffer by :b filename, close buffer by :bd, buffer next by :bn, buffer previous by :bp and ofc using ctrl-^ to toggle buffer
@venc0r4 ай бұрын
10gs most important command in my opinion
@no_name47964 ай бұрын
i need a 36.000gs command in real life lol
@Spoonbringer4 ай бұрын
I could see someone finding a use for it in a macro.
@Arunnn2414 ай бұрын
I'd love to try out Zed especially since it looks to have native and out-of-the-box VIM support. But it's only for Mac and while their GitHub tracked issue says Windows support is on the way, their official roadmap doesn't list "Windows support" as an item. So my excitement is rather tame now :/
@krtirtho4 ай бұрын
"I much into using tools/framework from the people that I've talked with"
@jdsee45204 ай бұрын
1000gs for everyone who forgets to lock their screen in the office
@mgrillcoder4 ай бұрын
omg thanx for q: i had no idea what a was typing
@dr.mikeybee2 ай бұрын
Zed is really beautiful. I'm getting to love it. Just don't use the integrated terminal. I use Warp.
@kerbaman51254 ай бұрын
38:20 never have I been called out as blatantly as I was with that colemak comment. Literally crying n' shaking rn
@mantovani964 ай бұрын
We need ThePrimeTime podcast
@coolaj863 ай бұрын
37:00 That's me. vi prepper. But I won't be able to save the plane on a QWERTY keyboard either. Sad day. 😞 But I do have `vim-essentials`.
@redzeckx3 ай бұрын
13:21 I use x11 still as well and its only because 1 small thing that wayland doesn't support .... custom keybinds in some applications O.o mainly Ulauncher that I use. I also have no need for a composite display system.
@gregjor4 ай бұрын
looks cool and all that but i won't go back to an editor that requires a GUI OS. if i can't ssh to a server and edit in the terminal the editor doesn't work for me.
@leeroyjenkins0Ай бұрын
Vscode does work over ssh, also can connect to docker containers and such. It's pretty neat. It's still easier to use vim, granted. Depending on usage.
@j2isndhu2 ай бұрын
Tried hard to switch to zed as I love the speed. Spent last night making my own theme. There just wasn’t good language support for React, and styled components, text gets coloured in unexpected ways
@wuilliam3213 ай бұрын
hahahahaha, finally found the command that sends me to that ugly panel, q: I'd bind that to "FOUND!"!
@oleksrow3 ай бұрын
Nice talk about editors
@nanthilrodriguez4 ай бұрын
Tmux+vim integrated pane navigation, and vim slime make it almost impossible for me to switch to anything else
@someman74 ай бұрын
PSA: Zed seems to be libre software now, and compiles for GNU/Linux. _Now_ I'm interested.
@3DArea4 ай бұрын
When you build a solution for a problem that nobody has...
@weiSane4 ай бұрын
@user-gf7ss5je9hI think it’s a joke or the individual is just clueless
@batis1884 ай бұрын
now i should use Zed editor,on Zorin GNU/LINUX wich used ZFS file system for programming Zig
@guanciottaman4 ай бұрын
Also use zsh as your shell
@fredartchannel7508Ай бұрын
37:32 THIS IS SO FING REAL HAHA
@thfsilvab4 ай бұрын
It's sometimes frustrating that the lack of standards on Linux is a bless and a curse, it's super cool to use whatever you think it's better and be opinionated, but it's super cumbersome for developers to implement, it holds a lot of things back unfortunately.
@no_name47964 ай бұрын
then there cases like gnome, where there are tons of important standard which are not implemented because devs personally do not need them
@yapdog4 ай бұрын
I loved this discussion. I'm developing an OS for creators (which includes devs, btw). It includes an editor/IDE... *fully customizable.* _(i.e. any language can be used to modify it, even languages you create)_ All of these features are so easy to add and manage by anyone. I'll hit you up when we're in beta, Prime
@feschber4 ай бұрын
I need to give Zed another try
@alveek4 ай бұрын
i love Zed it works great on my old and slow laptop with Linux
@LBCreateSpace3 ай бұрын
Vi prepper here and I feel called out 😂
@jorge286244 ай бұрын
I miss him (too?), and you should be able to finish that joke without any repercussion whatsoever.
@desvendandoornasaude41274 ай бұрын
I tried Zed today on linux. I think it will be better than vs code one day, but it is still slower than my beloved neovim.
@anhdunghisinh4 ай бұрын
1 thing i don't understand about Zed is it's claimming to be a vscode killer, yet not supported on Windows where there is a huge chunk of vscode users there.
@abombfuenmayor4 ай бұрын
vi prepper 😂 that hit home
@aziz0x003 ай бұрын
" I have been trained not to " ahaha
@kamertonaudiophileplayer8474 ай бұрын
This is the reason why I wrote own editor.
@brod5154 ай бұрын
@25:32 maybe I have a special case but it wasn't good at all for me. it seemed to use 100% cpu (1 core). so it was moving at around 1 frame a second. I think it was cpu rendering somehow for me. and I'm quite sure this has to do with nvidia drivers.
@ZedDevStuff4 ай бұрын
Hey we're talking about me :)
@Fuzzwah4 ай бұрын
38:18 still, you have to admit there's a non-zero chance of stock vi skillz actually saving lives
@T1Oracle4 ай бұрын
How does Zed compare with Helix? I like Helix better than NeoVim. Still haven't left VSCode yet, but I might one day.
@philosophia55774 ай бұрын
Dart and Flutter.
@Gobbenobber4 ай бұрын
I tried using Zed but like all editors except for VSCode and Rider (possibly also VS but I'm not going to be going there again) there is no support at all for modern dotnet, eg. Blazor and I suppose razor pages in general are just not supported. Only VSCode has a plugin that is able to add support. No idea why but something something Roslyn or what do I know. Just sucks that I am forced to use a specific product because no editors support razor files in 2024.
@Geraldonimosito4 ай бұрын
I get that js devs aren’t switching to Zed yet. But as a Rust dev I’ve been using it since the closed beta and I’m never going back. VSC is slow as hell.
@wa_custos4 ай бұрын
so is this a new Rust/Zig rivalry but this time Neovim/Zed??
@theherk4 ай бұрын
I think rust/zig is closer to nvim/emacs or zed/vscode. Zed and Neovim are both great but they aren’t direct competitors. One is a great gui and can run a terminal, but people who prefer to have the editor in the terminal will probably still prefer Neovim.
@gusryan4 ай бұрын
What's the difference between S and cc
@andrewcrook64444 ай бұрын
Plug-in dev Is there a scripting language, what language do you use and is there an api.
@auntiecarol4 ай бұрын
inb4 `M-x zed--global-mode` becomes a thing.
@MarceloLimaC4 ай бұрын
Why VSCode is popular? Easy to use and customize. Fast enough. Free. Good support.
@Blackilykat4 ай бұрын
fast? ...electron?
@marcelosyd4 ай бұрын
@@Blackilykatfast ENOUGH. Tbf better than Webstorm in performance
@MarceloLimaC4 ай бұрын
@@Blackilykat I said FAST ENOUGH. Its faster than Webstorm for example. TBF VSCode was never a bottleneck on performance during development.
@MarceloLimaC4 ай бұрын
@@Blackilykat I said FAST ENOUGH. I never had VSCode as the bottleneck on performance during development work. Idea tools are much worst than this
@KaiPetro3 ай бұрын
Can someone point to resources where n vim noob can learn there motions? Are they documented in one place? I hear some good ones in random videos been up forgetting.
@svenvarg69134 ай бұрын
Zed is not available on Linux, it's a slap in the face.
@Daddie04 ай бұрын
It isn't "officially" available. Got it up and running just fine on my Ubuntu 24.04 & 22.04 You can install it by running `curl zed DOT dev/install DOT sh | sh` of course change DOT to be proper full stops.
@MatthewKennedyUK4 ай бұрын
Zed is just a poor man’s Sublime Text.
@sososo39064 ай бұрын
Why do you think so?
@masterchief15204 ай бұрын
@@sososo3906inferior
@m4saurabh4 ай бұрын
You are so wrong 😞
@sparthir4 ай бұрын
Sublime Text is a wasteful man's VS Code. VS Code is a man with skill issues VIM. 😂
@minimumt3n2044 ай бұрын
Zed is amazing
@justindouglas36594 ай бұрын
When the hell we getting zed for windows?
@mvargasmoran4 ай бұрын
I have to say that I like Zed a ton and it's the bestest "vim mode" thingy I have ever tried.