Zemismart MATTER Hub - Unlock Smart Home Living!

[@tony-zhu]

Does the hub work with any general Zigbee devices (like ones from Aqara), or does it only work with Tuya Zigbee devices?

[@nova730]

I bought Zemismart M1 matter hub. And want to see if it is compatible to any zigbee devices. I have two Zigbee 3.0 devices, Sonoff Human presence sensor SNZB-06P and ZBMINI Smart switch. both of them are not compatible or I can't manage to pair. Does anyone try to connect any zigbee 3.0 devices?

[@Hasalix]

Does the Hub work as a Bridge between Google Home e.g lights etc. (Which are not directly compatible to Homekit or Matter) to Apple Homekit??

[@tomaszmiekina801]

Yes, of course the protocol is important, but it is also important what brand of equipment you use in this test? Did you use tuya and aqara devices at the same time for testing?

[@thinkloop]

I didn't fully understand the conclusion that this hub is not really necessary for thread since the apps "can connect directly to the devices" - isn't a thread radio needed somewhere?

[@hkdamo]

For Google Nest hubs they act as a thread gateway. I imagine that Apple and Alexa devices probably do as well

[@daliusgervinskas5492]

Hello, So if I’m having led controllers and other lights connected with tuya (smart life), and if I want to use homekit to control everything, will this help me to add devices to to my apple home?

[@Chris-zu4es]

so if i buy this i dont need the Ikea dirigera hub to control my Ikea tradfri lights?

[@BrandonPDaGoat]

Can you add zigbee smart locks like my Schlage connect?

[@chris]

Don't forget to marinade!

[@MohannadFarhan]

😂

[@xXEvHeadXx]

Wonder if this will be able to connect to my Govee space heater

[@paulofthebailey]

If I’d just connect Matter devices directly to HomeKit anyway, does this make that aspect of this hub kinda pointless? Would I be better off getting the cheaper Zemismart Zigbee hub?

[@jdroberts9825]

If all you want is to connect the specific zemismart zigbee devices that work with the M1 matter bridge to Apple home, then, yes, you can save a few bucks by using their HomeKit hub ZMHK01 instead. And you will also get Alexa integration cloud to cloud. What the M1 matter bridge would give you in addition to that is the ability to connect locally to SmartThings or other matter controller platforms. Whether that’s of any value to you or not just depends on your own needs.

[@andreabalzarini6615]

Thread need gateway/border router to communicate with non-thread device like your smartphone

[@mikem320]

Are you still using Homey Pro? I'm in the process of getting everything switched over to Homekit and I'm looking at getting a hub.

[@paulmoses1690]

Thanks for the video. I'm looking to bring a Zemismart / Tuya shutter motor into homekit. Will the Homey Pro / Hubitat hubs etc do the same job as this Zemismart hub? Looking to avoid purchasing one of these if Homey Pro can do the same job as well. Thanks Shane

[@AndrewClement]

Would this intergrate well into Home Assistant. I bought the Skyconnect USB stick and have had nothing but issues.

[@mamlukavlogs6353]

Hi Shane is it necessary to have homepod or Apple TV to integrate with Apple ecosystems ?

[@heliav8r]

Shane, I know you are a great fan of Aqara devices. Will this help link all of the sensors, etc connected to the Aqara platform? (Aqara M1S hub eg.) That alone would make me buy into this device.

[@levik12]

Hi Shane, what brand smart main water shut off valve would you recommend to buy? I plan to use it in my Apple Home app, so I think this device might be a good solution to achieve that purpose! Keep up with your awesome smart videos! Thanks.😀👍🏻

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for the support! I currently use the EcoNet Bulldog Water Valve Robot in my home. They make a Z-wave and a wifi version. You need a Z-Wave hub to use the Z-wave version (I currently have mine paired to Homey Pro). The wifi version would require homebridge since there is no native HomeKit support. There are a number of generic zigbee water valves, like the one seen in this video, that would work with this hub and give you homekit support. Here is a past video where I talked more about these water shut off valves and my experience using/testing them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/norZopajm5ijn5Ysi=tv53nni1ePx3JEIz

[@rrvvmm0x]

Hello! I own smart bulbs that work with Google and Alexa, but unfortunately, they are not compatible with HomeKit. Is it possible to connect these bulbs to a hub via Wi-Fi to integrate them with HomeKit?

[@ShaneCreates]

If they do not support Matter or HomeKit, then no it is not possible natively. You can look into Homebridge as a workaround to getting non-native products to work in homekit.

[@videonisse1]

Interesting! Does anyone know which SoC the ZemiSmart M1 uses?

[@joeprebish7140]

Is there a way to use an echo show to see HomeKit cameras or eve cameras via matter connection?

[@tzetv]

Does this work with Clipsal Wiser dimmer switches?

[@andreabalzarini6615]

Does it works also with Alexa? It is not mentioned

[@rockitMiC]

I have a door camera that I can only control with Tuya app (bought before I started to use HomeKit). Would this allow to control the door camera with Apple Home?

[@jdroberts9825]

Not at this time. Matter itself does not yet support cameras and the zemismart M1 uses matter for its Apple home integration.

[@rockitMiC]

⁠@@jdroberts9825I was not thinking about Matter, just about the ZigBee part…

[@jdroberts9825]

@@rockitMiC the zemismart m1 is a Zigbee hub within the Smart Life platform, but your camera is not going to be using Zigbee: zigbee is intended for tiny messages sent infrequently, and doesn’t support, audio or video. Your Tuya camera is almost certainly using Wi-Fi, in which case the zemismart m1 doesn’t change anything about what is or isn’t available in Apple home.

[@williamblockx677]

Does Homey pro 2019 work with this zemismart matter hub? ; I would like to connect my homey to for example my HomePod mini`s without having to buy a more expensive homey pro 2023. My homey pro 2019 works just fine; and does everything I like. I`m also afraid that if I would upgrade my homey, a lot of things wouldend work anymore.

[@filipebsc]

Hey im kind of newbie here, does this gear works with for exemple nuki 4.0?

[@Batman09181]

Can I add the Ring home security system to HomeKit using this Matter bridge?

[@jdroberts9825]

Unfortunately, no. The ring security system uses zwave, which this device does not support. And it’s even more restrictive than that, it can only bring in Tuya devices, not devices from any other manufacturer. If it doesn’t work with the Smart Life app, it won’t work with a zemismart M1.

[@ov2803]

Hi. I’m really confused with the Matter stuff. I bought a Zemismart Matter Inline switch and I have an apple TV 4K 2Gen. My iPhone does not process the QR code of the switch in the Home app. I’ve found some info, that ATV 4K 2Gen does support Matter, but does not support Matter 3party devices, only Apple ones. Do I need to upgrade the ATV to 3gen, or I can buy a latest HomePod mini, in order for 3rd party Matter devices could work without any additional hubs?

[@scottasmith73]

Great video Shane. I’m now using this hub to bring Tuya Zigbee light switches (made by Schneider Electric) into HomeKit. I seem to have hit a 40 device limit in HomeKit. When I add a new light switch, it kicks out an old one. Is this a hub issue or a Matter issue?

[@bengarland]

Does this substitute as a "HomeKit Hub", so that if I bought the Zemismart hub I won't need an Apple TV or HomePod to act as the HomeKit hub?

[@ShaneCreates]

No it does not. You will always need a HomeKit hub if you wish to use Siri/Apple Home/HomeKit for your smart home.

[@elpaparaxy]

How many orbis are you using? I have a two story house 2000 square feet wondering if one orbi would do the job for the entire house. They are pricey.

[@syluxdev]

Is it a thread border router?

[@jankristensen1513]

First, thanks for a great channel. Quite interesting with Zemismart, and perhaps a way to try, but am quite tired of throwing money away on several failed systems, I just currently have an Aqara system running to control everything in my house (almost), but I have quite a lot of errors on the system, today there are up to 9 thermostats that fail, and the day is not over. It's been running like this for over half a year, and it's no fun with minus 15-20 degrees Celsius, and a support that doesn't respond. So I'm looking for a system that works so that my 29 Aqra units can end their life under a hammer. What can a bid for a system be?

[@jimmyfox231]

Love the content Shane. I’ve watched a good amount of your videos. I have a pretty extensive set up of all HomeKit devices. I’m looking to add my washer/dryer. Do you know if this hub would work at adding GE smart home HQ products in HomeKit?

[@mangodoc10]

Love your videos. I have used a lot of your advice to build my smart home after a major renovation, trying to maximize my use of Matter over Thread so I can build a strong mesh network. I find there aren’t that many Matter devices using Thread and I don’t understand- what’s the downside of Thread? Isn’t the self-healing mesh network superior to bandwidth-killing other methods of wireless communication in a home with a large number of wireless devices?

[@AndrewClement]

The only really downside to Thread is it can only do low bandwith communication. So things like Cameras dont work well. It is basically Zigbee, but better. They added multi-hub and self healing. IMO Matter over Thread is the best for going for new device, its just earily days on the market. For example I cant find matter over thread light switch without needing a netural.

[@valerikarastoyanov7503]

I have an question if i buy only matter devices do i still need a hub like Zemismart or Homey Pro, Apple Homepod?

[@ShaneCreates]

Yes, you will need a Matter controller hub for whichever smart home platform you want to use. For example: a HomePod if you want to use Apple Home. Google Nest Hub if you want to Google Home. Amazon Echo for Alexa. You can use the Zemismart Matter Hub if you want to use the Tuya/app platform only as your Matter controller app.

[@simonebaratta3823]

Can It link with every (all brands) zigbee device ? Is universal?

[@ShaneCreates]

Technically it supports Tuya zigbee devices but many generic zigbee devices will likely work.

[@NowWhatIsSheDoing]

Would this let me add Ring cameras into HomeKit?

[@ShaneCreates]

no

[@rodrigoruiz976]

Can you use Eero routers for zigbee devices?

[@jdroberts9825]

Many eero devices can add vanilla Zigbee 3.0 devices, the same selection that you can add to the Amazon echo models with a built-in zigbee hub. However, they cannot handle Zigbee devices that use manufacturer proprietary code, which includes most Tuya Zigbee devices. And they can’t bring the Zigbee devices into Apple home. You pretty much have to handle them in the Alexa app. So the answer is yes, but probably not in the way you were thinking. And not the devices that Shane shows in this video, which are specific to the tuya architecture.

[@tharais]

@@jdroberts9825 And, Aqara Zigbee devices as well I believe.

[@seeitwithchris1041]

Why would I need this if I already have Apple TV? Doesn't it support matter and thread already?

[@ShaneCreates]

If you are using Apple Home/HomeKit as your primary "matter controller," the main reason one may want this device is to integrate cheap zigbee products into your HomeKit setup.

[@jdroberts9825]

@@ShaneCreates true, but the only ones that it can integrate are the ones made by Tuya. For example, there is no way to add an ikea Zigbee Sensor to this device.

[@javiertineo3084]

Hubs confuse me a bit. would I be able use this hub to have the government outdoor lights work on HomeKit? Or a robot vacuum

[@ShaneCreates]

No, this would expose the govee outdoor lights to homekit.

[@mamlukavlogs6353]

great video . i learned a lot being a beginner

[@beenjam]

Howdy thanks for the info my friend … question, what camera did you shoot this on? Cheers keep it up.

[@ShaneCreates]

Sony A7 IV. Thanks!

[@beenjam]

@@ShaneCreates Awesome.. you may see me with a channel on art & design soon :)

[@ShaneCreates]

@@beenjam That's awesome! Best of luck! 😃

[@andreabalzarini6615]

Does it works as Thread border router?

[@ShaneCreates]

yes

[@will300c]

i have eeros router with thread boarder router, have homepod gen 2 and mini even apple tv

[@zadam]

Hi! Is it works if I dont have homepod or apple tv 4k? It can replace apple hubs?

[@ShaneCreates]

You WILL need a HomeKit Hub (HomePod or Apple TV) if you want to use Siri or the the Apple Home app for your smart home. If you only use Tuya/Smart Life app, then you do not need any Apple HomeKit hub.

[@zadam]

@@ShaneCreates thank you

[@thmo_]

@@ShaneCreates you don't need a Home Hub to use Siri or the Apple Home app. WiFi and Bluetooth devices will work without a Home Hub. Now Apple says to connect to Matter enabled Thread devices you need a current home hub, which made sense so far since we didn't have such a hub from a third party provider. Also for automations and out of home control, an apple home hub is required. The matter spec allows for devices to be added into multiple controllers and those controllers to be controlled by multiple apps. Now I don't know how this would work out and if those features are already available or not in the current specs and implementations. It'd be cool to see if you can get the Thread devices from the Zemismart hub into Apple Home and then see if they still work in a test setup without an Apple Home Hub. I highly doubt it tbh, but it'd be a cool test. If that doesn't work, could you check if it at least acts as a Thread border router or since it is it's own controller it won't be used in such a way within the Apple controller Thread network?

[@ShaneCreates]

@@thmo_ True you don't need an Apple HomeKit Hub to use the app, but if you want to control any of your accessories remotely using the Home app/siri, use any thread accessories, or create HomeKit automations, you will need a HomeKit hub. At 5:53 I covered adding thread devices to this hub. As mentioned, the Thread devices do not currently get exposed to HomeKit. Same thing applies to Matter over Wifi devices. The only devices that get exposed to HomeKit through the hub are the zigbee accessories. I covered a lot of what you are asking about in the thread chapter and the last two chapters of the video. It does act as a Thread Border Router and creates it's own thread network, similar to most of the Matter controller hubs that I've used/tested. Hope that helps.

[@gertveldhuizen9149]

Does anybody know if it is possible to make a shortcut routine with if conditions that only activates once per day? I would like to have my robot vacuum start when I turn my alarm on but only once a day will be enough

[@Bigglare]

i'VE SEEN This hub and the first thing I want to know is, will it pair with other brands like Third Reality and Sengled and bridge other zigbee brands and device types to matter.

[@ShaneCreates]

I don't have any Third Reality or Singled zigbee devices to test, but I assume it would be possible... assuming they are using the standard zigbee protocol and nothing proprietary. I have only tested with generic zigbee products and they have all worked.

[@Techlifeandmore]

@@ShaneCreates are you going to test out the third reality matter smart nightlight?

[@ShaneCreates]

@@Techlifeandmore yep already been using it for a while. Pretty cool little device.

[@davescott8352]

What features would you get with a HOOBS or Homey that this lacks? I think the Homey has an IR repeater but not sure what else.

[@Techlifeandmore]

@@davescott8352 those hubs are overpriced, although they are very functional. But essentially those are designed to process automation locally, whereas this probably uses the cloud to process automations, and if not, I don't think it's designed to process complex local automations. Plus, you don't have the ability to make those complex automations on this hub. the homey also has a Z-Wave chip, and an IR blaster as you said. I think it also has an RF blaster.

[@BreakTime10101]

Shane, this is in no way a Home Bridge product, your current devices have to support Matter, correct?

[@ShaneCreates]

This is not Homebridge (if that's what the question is). If you are using Apple Home, you can use this to integrate zigbee devices into your HomeKit setup.

[@BreakTime10101]

@@ShaneCreates that’s what I thought, thank you.

[@jdroberts9825]

@@ShaneCreates but only a few specific tuya made Zigbee models. This is not a general “any Zigbee to matter“ bridge.

[@danielwander605]

I’ve got a Zemismart Tuya WiFi roller shade motor that I use in non-typical way. I have it integrated with Homebridge but it’s annoying to have to submit for Tuya cloud every six months. Will this hub work as a bridge between the WiFi motor and HomeKit? Or, do I need a different motor? I know they just released a matter version but be nice not to have to replace the motor.

[@ShaneCreates]

In my testing, it appears that the hub only works as a bridge for the zigbee devices. Other wifi devices that are in the Smart Life app do not show up in HomeKit, just like the Thread devices.

[@Whitepinoy]

will this work for Aqara ?

[@KrassimirKossev]

No. Only a limited set of Tuya Zigbee device types are exposed via the Tuya Matter bridge hub.

[@SolarizeYourLife]

Yes but is it matter compliant, that is if the Internet goes down, and it does a lot, can I still control lights and devices work off line, locally?!? That was the whole selling point for matter in the first place is control locally!!! Crappy Google max hub is useless when the net goes down...

[@GreenArrowNetwork]

I have a HomePod and an Aqara g3 camera hub. I’m good. No interest in multiple ecosystems. It’s the last thing the other users in my house want.

[@VICT0R.Y]

I don't understand what is the point of making a THREAD hub... One of the goals of thread is to replace the ZigBee hubs. The companys just figured a way to use the old method to make profit... What is the point of thread if not the all individual smathome devices are using the same protocol.

[@jdroberts9825]

The point of thread is that it’s a low power mesh network, very suitable for battery powered Home Automation devices. Unlike Zigbee, thread uses IPV6 addressing, which makes it very easy to connect to other protocols like Wi-Fi using the same addressing method. Thread doesn’t need a hub, but it does need “thread border routers“ if you want to be able to reach it from outside its immediate network. The zemismart m1’s primary purpose is to act as a “matter bridge” to bring some specific Zemismart Zigbee models over to another Home Automation platform. It is becoming common these days for device manufacturers to add thread border router capability to their Zigbee hubs. That’s what this model is. A Zigbee hub with thread border router capability.

[@Polkster13]

Most everyone that uses Alexa knows to say "Lady A" when they are referring to Alexa without activating an Alexa hub. Just passing that along to you which will allow you to not have to bleep out anytime you reference that ecosystem.

[@ShaneCreates]

Yea I really should start doing that. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@ArmandGirard]

@@ShaneCreatesI call her Axela when I don’t want to activate her.

[@Anktzen]

I don't do that@@ShaneCreates

[@BreakTime10101]

Or say Alex.

[@RussellRonnebaum]

I’ve started referring to her as the “A” word. 😂

[@joaovaloisef]

The Matter scenario is dead. No updates Limited support or no products. It promised integration with "everything" but that is not the reality.

[@veitklub]

again no smartbuttons. how do we control our homes without voice? we have wives that don't want to speak to alexa! thanks for the infos!

[@jdroberts9825]

If you don’t want to buy any bridge devices, but only buy a button, then the Tuo Matter button will work. Shane already did a video on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3uUfGtobqdjiZY The WeMo scene controller can also work with HomeKit with no devices required, and gives you three buttons. Another Shane video on that one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i57SqJ2NdtR5g6c The Eve button is another thread candidate. Fibaro also makes a Bluetooth HomeKit button, but it seems to have more trouble staying connected than the thread models. If you’re willing to buy an additional bridge device, you’ll have a number of other candidates, most of which Shane has covered on his channel. That includes aqara, flic, and several models that connect to the hue bridge.

[@veitklub]

@@jdroberts9825 buttons are not supported by google home or alexa (i have both). that is the problem that i have. and that's probably why no company (except tuo) is selling some. i'm using voice control but my girlfriend doesn't - so matter-buttons would be perfect. i bought the onvis 4 button thread device which would be cool ...

[@paulkieffer1189]

Can I use this in HomeKit for using a nest thermostat?

[@jdroberts9825]

Unfortunately, no. This device is a “matter bridge” whose purpose is to allow you to add nonMatter Zigbee devices manufactured by tuya to other home automation platforms. It does not work with other brands. The good news is that if your nest thermostat is one of the models that supports matter, you will be able to add it to the Apple home app without needing any additional devices. But not all nest models do support matter.

[@Max86421]

All about Matter - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqOzoGqaq8h8fNEsi=DNeTjoU5NN-5Gkk6