Video Guide Laminator 11 - Mounting prints behind acrylic

[@brotherernest5993]

This was the best tutorial I’ve ever seen on this process. TY

[@FilmFactry]

This is the BEST tutorial I have seen on the process! Thank you!

[@313design3]

Experience is everything. Fantastic workmanship. Bravo

[@ZenithArtSystem]

Thank you... :-)

[@as6488]

@@ZenithArtSystem Hey, I bought about 2 weeks ago, adhesive film (from your shop in Bonn). I can't get the printed photos without very small bubbles on acryl! Everytime, after printing (using a Canon Pro 100S - flawless print), adding film to photo (flawless), I get very small bubbles on acrylic/plexiglass (visible only if using a led frame - all 4 sides have a led light). I printed already 5 times and everytime I get those small bubbles. I've written in english for others who may have similar issue.

[@ZenithArtSystem]

@@as6488 Without seeing the bubbles I guess you are talking of the really tiny ones, which are called "Silvering Effect". Those may come from the paper you are using to print. Which paper do you use? It needs to be absolutely smooth, like a high-gloss photo paper or our synthetic paper (printable PP-Film). Also the best results will be with extruded acrylic glass (XT). Here the thickness tolerances are normally less than in the GS-Version.

[@stonewolf777]

@@ZenithArtSystem Thanks for your reply and sorry for delay. Using XT Evonik 8mm (polished). Paper: A3 & A4 - pro platinum pt-101 (glossy). Printer: canon Pro 100S. Roller laminator (desktop version): 75mm width, cold, 64mm diameter silicon rollers. The issue I have is ONLY during last step: applying the printed photo (film already add) to the acrylic.

[@ZenithArtSystem]

@@stonewolf777 Hmm. This is not so easy. Everything looks correct. Maybe you have not enough pressure? We found that in the last step you really need to apply a lot pf pressure. Or the rolls from your laminator are too soft? Or they are uneven? You can check this, if you put them together so that you only see a tiny gap and then slowly roll them. If the gap opens and closes you have a problem. Or maybe it is too cold in your workplace? Then the adhesive of the film does not "flow" nicely. Is it our adhesive? Where are you based?

[@DirkBilgen]

Hello ! We are based in Bonn, Germany and you are always welcome here. We will teach you all of our experience..

[@FotovivaCoUk]

Very in-depth video, well done

[@danielrodriguezgarcia1044]

Thank you so much. What brand of double sided crystal clear adhesive do you use for it? Thanks in anticipation.

[@LowCostCncRetrofits]

Great video Klaus! Laminating rollers do work well but the order of technique demonstrated in this video is critical I agree in order to acheive the best result All I need to do now is buy myself one of those dust remover blades

[@goetterdone]

Yes you do and the roller is a serious tool and not cheap but will last for years... The roller is called a DRS-1 for "Dust Removal System" the are widely available from companies who supply laminating films and adhesives such as DRYTAC... the manufacturers website is www.sdionline.com/ The tac level of the roller is color coded... for general purpose I recommend a red one... David Goetter large format application expert :-)

[@wandext]

goetterdone what is the ballpark price range for one of these roller systems?

[@AaronFruman]

Wow... You sir have experience. Thank you for sharing it!

[@jungsomewhat]

What a pro this guy is brilliant

[@fumie512]

Very good tutorial. 👍🏻👍🏻Thank you for share

[@wrobi2267]

Great job! Thanks for the tutorial. Which kind of paper do you recommend for this work?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

Thank you !! We are offering an inkjet-printable Polyproyplene, which we call "Synthetic Paper". Available in Matte and Glossy, plain or self-adhesive. Check our webshop for the sizes and prices. You need a VERY smoothe paper for this, the best is a plastic foil. Otherwise yo may see little white or black spots due to the texture of the paper...

[@wrobi2267]

@@ZenithArtSystem Thanks a lot! I ordered a roll and hope now that the problems (spots you described) will be resolved.

[@ZenithArtSystem]

@@wrobi2267 Yeah, thank you. Please feel free to contact us if you still have the issues and we will try to help you solving it...

[@edwinhaine1609]

Nice video very good explanation !!

[@elmomby]

WHAT IS THAT LINT ROLLER!? WHAT BRAND! YES IM YELLING.

[@goetterdone]

Matthew The roller is called a DRS-1 for "Dust Removal System" the are widely available from companies who supply laminating films and adhesives such as DRYTAC... the manufacturers website is www.sdionline.com/ The tac level of the roller is color coded... for general purpose I recommend a red one... David Goetter large format application expert :-)

[@elmomby]

goetterdone Sorry it took so long to reply! Thanks for your help!

[@Nenes82]

Thank you so much! Which printer do you use for the image?

[@irina8078]

Hello, Klaus! Thank you very much for such useful Video Guide! Can you answer please, what brand of laminating film did you use in this video?

[@user-gu9qz5ns7v]

👍 nice

[@rubensanchez1797]

Good job, many thanks

[@mtz3843]

good vid, but most of us dont have that pressure roller so we cant do that, we have to do it by hand

[@danielemicheligigotti6666]

Hi thanks for your video! Could you specify what paper you use for the prints? I tried epson premium glossy but still noticed some very small bubbles. Probably that paper is not smooth enough. Thanks for your answer

[@DirkBilgen]

Thanks for your comments. We are recommending to print onto our Synthetic Paper. This is Polypropylene instead of normal paper and therefore the surface is absolutely smooth Normally paper has some tiny differences in thickness or some texture. If you put it behind acrylic glass it works like a microscope and therefore you can see small inserts where the paper does not stick to the glass. Here you get black dots... If you want we can send you some samples of the Synthetic Paper. Please check our website or the Webshop... Www.zenith-art-system.de

[@racerx3866]

That website in English ?

[@taheseen959]

I need to learn this wich country is yours pls reply

[@moosec6985]

I learned how to mount acrylics from the video and have done about 20 since! The biggest I have done is a 20 x 30 successfully. I am now trying to roll a 30 x 45 inch print but am getting bubbles EVERYWHERE! All over the surface of the photo when I put the double sided adhesive one. Do you know what is going wrong? Thank you!

[@DirkBilgen]

Well, this is hard to answer without seeing it. Are the bubbles like tiny black or white dots or really big bubles? Size approximately? In which stage do the bubbles appear? It could be the paper? But I gues you have used the same. It could be the pressure of the rollers? Did you change it? The temperature? Is it "normal" room temperature? Also in the night where you store the roll adhesive? Finally maybe the Acrylic itself. Is it XT, i.e. Extruded Acrylic? The cast acrylic has more thickness tolerances so we do not recommend using this type.

[@moosec6985]

@@DirkBilgen they are bubbles that are bigger than silvering. About the size of a thumbtack. I was able to mount the photo successfully by using an empty roll to wrap up the liner. This kept the adhesive tight to the roller and I also used less pressure.

[@douglasfalk]

Good video, thanks. where can I get one of those blue rollers used on the photo just prior to laminating to remove any dust?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

Thank you very much. The Blue Roller is available in our webshop shop.zenith-art-system.de It is called ASR-300 Anti-Static Dust Roller. shop.zenith-art-system.de/en/tools-accessories/laminating-tools/14/anti-static-cleaning-roller?c=32

[@taammohamed6301]

@@ZenithArtSystemhi

[@yooolie]

hi. did u build the roller yourself or bought it?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

We are building and selling it. Check us under zenith-shop.de

[@Yoko.Kurama]

Acrylic prints are made.to look like picture in regular glass frame but without the borders?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

Yes, kind of. You do not need a frame, the picture just hangs on the wall by itself. And with the acrylic it gets a spezial depth and glare, which you do not have with a "standard" framing.

[@porbachus]

thank you, very good

[@muhammadrijal9826]

Good video, thank you. I checked from Indonesia, where I can get plastic laminating, thank you

[@ZenithArtSystem]

Hello! Thanks for your comment. This is a very sophisticated high-quality product. I think you can find similar products in Indonesia of Chinese Origin, but they do not have this clarity. Of course we can send individual rolls also to your country. shop.zenith-art-system.de

[@muhammadrijal9826]

Zenith Art System GmbH if you can know how much the price is rolling and how many meters long, if you can ask for no whatsapp, thank you ...

[@ZenithArtSystem]

shop.zenith-art-system.de/en/pressure-sensitive-cold-mount-films/transparent-films/41/optical-clear-mounting-cold-mount-film please send an email and we will make an export offer...

[@abbybia3113]

Wow

[@pargyropoulos]

very nice!

[@dillipjena4426]

where i got the crystol board

[@igualnimp]

God bless you

[@lancecooperphotos]

I tried this on several smaller prints and got small air bubbles on each. The bubbles were always located in the same area, the last inch or so of the laminate to be covered. Perhaps I don't have the roller tight enough?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

Yes, pressure is one of the possible reasons. Please try again with higher pressure. But also the rollers need to be quite rigid, if they are too soft, pressure will not solve the problem. Further, the type of paper is critical - it needs to be absolutely smooth, best is printable Polypropylene not "real" paper. Also the Acrylic Glass should be of very good quality and the type should be "extruded" not "cast". Some producers have quite high tolerances in thickness, which is a killer also...

[@photosbynikpatel5062]

Just about the minute mark you say mountable board the white board you have, what kind of board is that, is the surface paper, is it non stick can you suggest what this board is made of and is it available commercially

[@ZenithArtSystem]

You take a flat board (MDF, DiBond, Forex whatever) and stick a double-sided mounting tape on it (for example our KKD). The protective paper from the Mounting Film is siliconized, i.e. nothing will stick to it. This is the secret - simple but effective ;-) Then we stick another board to this plate which has the same thickness as the acrylic and also cover this with the double-sided film. This is the "step", which you need as the starter...

[@ashrafulhamza1096]

What is the thickness of the adhesive layer on both sides of the middle?

[@DirkBilgen]

The carrier of the adhesive is 12µm. The adhesive on both sides is 10µm, so in total 32µm. For more information please check our website...

[@AnilkumarG-wi7zk]

Good.

[@regallasatish3572]

which type of machine is used

[@dgriffinart]

Thanks for this great video. Would 250gsm satin paper work well with acrylic or do you only recommend polypropylene paper. It's just that I don't know many printers that print on to polypropylene paper. Also, is there a size limit to acrylic mounting? I'd like to mount 150x30cm panoramic images on to acrylic but I'm concerned that length would make it too 'bendy' or floppy causing the image to come unstuck or the acrylic to break. Thanks in advance!

[@ZenithArtSystem]

Thanks for your comment. We recommend our Polypropylene Paper because the surface is absolutely smooth. If you are using normal paper (or satin paper) there will be small white or black dots (silvering). This is because the surface of normal paper is not smooth enough. Our PP-Paper is printable with nomal pigment ink printers like Epson, Canon, HP, so there is no problem. We also offer it in self-adhesive! Yes, panoramic pictures tend to bend a lot. You need to add a stroing back plate like DiBond and a hanging frame made from aluminium to support it and hold it straight. Please have look at our webshop for all the above...

[@chico11mbit]

@@ZenithArtSystem Is it useful to use your self adhesive PP Paper and mount the Paper-Acrylic-Sandwich to a 3mm Dibond Board? Is the glue on the PP Paper strong enough for that?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

@@chico11mbit Yes, we developed the PP-Paper just for this reason. And the glue is strong enough... We can send you a sample if you want...

[@ricardorector3080]

Hello, what brand of Adhesive you use?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

Our own brand: www.zenith-art-system.de

[@igualnimp]

I mean THANK YOU so much.

[@munkansara814]

thanks

[@martinquintero1146]

What kind of laminating film rolls for acrylicic for pictures?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

This is the double-sided adhesive KOC. Please check our website: www.zenith-art-system.de

[@jalilebrahim8859]

How much does it cost to print a2 image

[@ZenithArtSystem]

For prices of our products please check our website www.zenith-art-system.de

[@moosec6985]

I get a little bit of silvering when I roll the photo onto the glass but there is no silvering when I roll the adhesive onto the photo. Any reason for this? Thank you!

[@ZenithArtSystem]

There are a lot of possibilities for this. Some of them are: - Not enough pressure - Rolls of the Laminator are too soft - Rolls of the Laminator are not absolutely even - The acrylic has too much variation in thickness - The Double-Sided Mounting Film is not from us :-) - The Media used is not from us :-) - The working space / storage room temperature is too low

[@moosec6985]

@@ZenithArtSystem how soft should the rollers be, still rubber right? There is about 2 mm of squish at high pressure.

[@ZenithArtSystem]

@@moosec6985 The rollers need to be hard. There should be no squish at all. It seems that this is the problem already...

[@moosec6985]

@@ZenithArtSystem ok, I tried with the laminate warm and I did not get any silvering. I do it in my garage and it was below 60 degrees. That is too cold, correct?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

@@moosec6985 60°C is super hot ! :-) But I think you talk about 60°F - yes, this is way to cold...

[@chico11mbit]

Ich finde es sehr schwierig im ersten Schritt den unteren Release-Liner von der Klebefolie zu fieseln. Die Klebefolie bekommt dann leicht Knicke. Hat jemand einen Tipp?

[@ZenithArtSystem]

Manche kleben sich einen Streifen Laminierfolie oder Klebeband auf den Liner und versuchen, den Liner damit abzulösen. Ich selbst fahre mit meinem Finger mit etwas Druck an der Kante vorbei, so dass der Kleber an minem Finger "hängenbleibt". Mit dem Fingernagel auseinander-pfrimeln finde ich sehr schwierig...

[@edgewrld]

damn son

[@wifo7500]

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