BeyerDynamic DT177X _(Z Reviews)_ Massdrop Exclusive...

[@ZReviews]

NOTE!!! -- the pre-order price is $380. It will go up to $450 after pre-order units have shipped. Trying to ascertain a shipping DATE but this is massdrop so assume Notre Dame will be fully rebuilt around the same time.

[@ZReviews]

I can try. The issue is still there just less evident because lesser mics. So...

[@masterxyr]

and now if I leave my comment I'll look like an even bigger moron :)

[@screwb1882]

how are these on the JDS Atom?

[@HaanSoIo]

According to another video they should be 32ohms 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@riseuplight]

Z Reviews too soon...?

[@3xplosiv0]

No matter how hard they try, everyone still calls them MassDrop

[@haasii]

haha yeah, I think was a waste of money to change to drop

[@unworthyServant08]

That’s their legacy

[@Corporalis]

They even call themself Massdrop.

[@nekekaminger]

Also concerning your frustration with the way the stock ear pads are changed, the "channel" you point out at 7:39 is actually the plastic ring that holds the foam pad over the driver. You can easily pry that out and put the pad on it while it is off the speaker cup, which makes it a LOT easier. Once its on, just push the plastic ring back on (sometimes reading the manual does halp :D).

[@Goldie_79]

According to the description on Massdrop "The four-pin mini-XLR connection allows compatibility with balanced cables." So there's that question answered. Also, they're 32 Ohm so they should be relatively easy to drive.

[@ZReviews]

Well A, good to know, B.. hrm. Will try on bluetooth receiver.

[@samlcyo2]

@@ZReviews If I can drive them with my BTR3, I'm in heaven.

[@chrishall7601]

@@samlcyo2 Are you in Heaven?

[@samlcyo2]

@@chrishall7601 unfortunately, I never got my hands on a pair of those. Been using tw earphones for a while now. Still got a little stack and a couple pairs of cans at my desk tho.

[@trellusg]

Fake-Accent-Zeos on taming of the Tesla driver @ mark 2:04: “but... but... these no longer makes the blood come out, how will you hear da music?” 😂😂😂 #classicZeos

[@BuhNanaz]

yes :) "maybe people at Massdrop have ears"

[@andrescardeli9182]

Normal Beyer 1770/1990 are 3 pin mini xlr. Massdrop has it on their website that they made it four pin mini xlr and the internal wiring for balanced should someone want to use a balanced cable

[@qazifaisal5]

Z has helped me with just about everything relating to audio I picked these up with the recommended type of pads the brainwavz XL perforated I went with the hybrid and both pads are amazing . Thank you for always making these amazing reviews. I appreciate this review because treble annoys me too.

[@marioflores280]

I use the original DT 1770 with the Shure 1540 earpads and tunes down the highs just enough to be detailed and not hurting. Bass intact

[@tenveri]

Nice

[@turneremery6972]

Got three sets of Brainwavz to try with these, and I totally agree with the perforated being the best. Velour kept the stock sound. Micro-suedes, while ridiculously comfortable, amped up the treble and dulled the bass. Totally ruined the sound. The perforated felt like they kept the detail and clarity of the stock pads while giving a decent bump to the bass like the sheepskin. Best of both worlds

[@KristofferEngstrom]

"in every possible direction. Girls love that" xD

[@hyp0xia428]

I love that your political incorrectness probably makes Massdrop sweat but they also know that you move product so they work with you anyway. Keep it up!

[@ZReviews]

I don't see gender, nationality, race or even acknowledge the existence of humans. So its all fair game.

[@succathicdicc5601]

"I'm ma so a punka rocka I saya da bad words about da wamen an da black people. HA GUD ZEOS. ZEOS JUS LIKE ME." -Hyp0xia

[@hyp0xia428]

​@@succathicdicc5601 What?

[@delicrux]

@GIUSEPPE BORIS RUSTY SHACKLEFORD BABUBHATTMON i think what makes zeos a true wild card is one way or another zeos will find a pair of the headphones and give his review. So they just take a chance and send a pair his way.

[@colonelbasic9736]

I can confirm the Brainwavz Perf pads make a drastic improvement in sound and comfort on the DT1770 pro

[@jonathangrignon8850]

Do you find that it tones down the bass? I've read some people say that it boosts it.

[@colonelbasic9736]

@@jonathangrignon8850 definitely tones it down.

[@ethelinwu]

The sheepskin ear pads doesn't make the soundstage bigger. Quite the contrary, it makes the sound more intimate and warmer. It makes me feel like I'm listening to a close-back version of Sennheiser HD650 when I put it on. It's quite amazing that two different ear pads make a headphone sound like two different headphones.

[@finnjake6174]

what about the brainwavz

[@ethelinwu]

@@finnjake6174 I'm sorry. I don't own any pair of ear pad from Brainwavz :(

[@RJ_____________]

such a fun guy to watch. really funny. i'm a Earbud Guy. only type of ear phone that i use or i will use. that why i'm here. cause of the VE Zen review. but you're so fun to watch that i can't stop watching your headphones reviews. and when i end up watching all the headphones reviews i will start watching all the other videos. and never stop. because i can't. i literally can't fucking stop. 12 years watching youtube and i never expected to a product's reviewer becoming one of my favorite content creators...period. keep up the great work,Zeos. Pasta is kinda funny too.

[@iNViSiBiLiTi]

Zeos, the channel that you rotate the pads into also a plastic ring that can be removed. you can just put the pads through the ring and clip the pads back on. Also, have you tried swapping pads on the 1990 in the same way as you did with the 177X?

[@ZReviews]

Im leanding. And no I never bothered. Too good to start messing

[@shawnpwatsons1]

So these are called "Massdrop DT177X Go" because they're only 32ohms rather than the standard 250ohm DT1770 which are impracticle for smartphones, DAPS, etc. THIS is what Massdrop has done to customize them.

[@nexusvv4284]

My heart stopped beating for a sec. after i saw this title, because i bought my DT1990 1 months ago. I would like to see a DT199X but in the same way not.....

[@ZReviews]

There is nothing to fix in the 1990. Just hope for a drop to let the price ease up.

[@on_spikes6867]

@@ZReviews the 1990s could def. Be more comfortable to wear.

[@garrettpeek3551]

dt1990 are my favorite dynamic headphones!

[@SimplicityForGood]

these different Omhs options of these earphones.. How to best chose the right one? I wanna record singing tracks and voice acting tracks and some drums sometimes.. but mostly working with singing to back tracks... which ohms should I then choose? would metal music, where you scream a lot in the music need a lower ohms like 30 vs the higher one or will the higher one still over all generate better sound quality? and what amp or dad to use with these if connecting to a phone or something weaker? will it need an amp if connected to the MacBook Pro M1? thanks for getting back

[@nicholaspomianek9147]

There's definitely a technique to getting the pads on and off but it's way easier than a traditional system once you know how to do it

[@frustin]

love your reviews! thank you.

[@mehutolkki3232]

How long till Ether CX review? I wanna know the differences etc...

[@TechGoop]

Ditto!

[@s7robe297]

The ether cx shits on these in terms of clarity/resolution. They’re in two totally different price categories so comparing them is kind of pointless.

[@JPC326]

So my DT 177X GO right side just died on me for no reason after 2 and half years of desk usage. Never dropped it, never squeezed the cable. I have a custom flexible cable from Audio Hart. Tried different adaptor, 3.5 and 4mm tried on my phone, computer, laptor just in case it was the device of my cable. Nope... it's really the right speaker that have died. ... I loved the sound profile and the 32 Ohm easy to drive. Noow my DAC/AMP is a TRI TK2 wich can drive more power hungry device. Do you have any suggestion as an alternative headset (preferably close back) that could be similar or a small upgrade to the DT 177X GO ?

[@ScttSt_vocals]

But Z. Are they comparable with 1990? Is it worth to choose them over 1990, if I love my soundstage to be big and massive, but want that precise bass of 770? I currently have the t90. But. Hear me out, deconi choce leather pads "fix" them. At least I think so. I really hope you'll answer, because now I have a nice opportunity of getting 177x. The only thing also turning me off is only 32ohms

[@MacKeyser]

Soooo... looking for an all in one set of cans for gaming and also movie/music...everything from Beethoven's 6th to Rage Against the Machine.... If price is no object between these two, go with the DT177X (mass drop) or the MMX300 2nd gen??? Love my current DT770s and prefer to stay with the Beyer sound stage.

[@12Music72]

I'm split on the same decision with also DT770 80ohm as my current headphones. Have you made a choice?

[@MacKeyser]

@@12Music72 Yep. Went with the Drop + Beyerdynamics DT 177X Go. I also ordered some extra ear pads from Brainwavz which augment the experience. I mostly use their XL gaming pads, but will switch out the perforated leather ones for classical music. Best cans under $1000 imho

[@12Music72]

@@MacKeyser thanks! Bought exactly the same + an USB ModMic. I'm curious how they sound. (Got the 177x for $349.-!)

[@TheZoenGaming]

9:38 "Girls love that." LMAO Thumbs up, and subscribed, just for that line.

[@matrixz6]

Hope these are good. Still enjoying my dt 1990 pros.

[@oldandslow8994]

Me too going to try the perforated Xl pads on them and some hybrids xl on my 770s.

[@antoinelaplante9937]

Did you end Up buying it? If si hier Do the compare to each other

[@josev1191]

Zeos, when are you gonna do a KHADAS Tone Board DAC Review? It's $99 and as very good reviews and feedback, i would to see a review by you. thanks

[@ZReviews]

I just ordered it

[@josev1191]

@@ZReviews Thankyou ZEOS, U the MAN, Can't wait...

[@jeffreymakuch2493]

There's no point in him reviewing it, it's essentially a reference-design DAC. Even though it measures better than others in the price range, it likely wouldn't be audible versus other good-measuring DACs. Z didn't think there was a difference in DACs (unless they were basically defective) until he got some very up-market ones $1000. The review would go something like this: "Sounds like other ~$100 DACs, but you have to get a case. Why bother."

[@ZReviews]

But it will lack a case and I can complain

[@xTG14x]

Estimated shipping date is the end of September? I've pre ordered stuff way in advance, but that's a whole new level of waiting...

[@ZReviews]

It's just like edging.. Just think how amazing this wait will feel by September.

[@froge_]

Buy them now and just forget about it. It will be a nice surprise when they arrive in september!

[@dudemanismadcool]

Thought it was bad having to wait over a month before my tinaudio t3's shipped :p.

[@wagstaff6135]

Those of us who buy EDC stuff... and ordered the Spyderco Delica/Endura "Gold"... know about waiting. That level of waiting was a precedent. September is nothin' (if indeed they ship on time!). BTW, the Spyderco knife was great when it got here (a year later).

[@MrKrampyHands]

This is pretty awesome these are 379$ on drop right now I’m very tempted to pull the trigger on these or the DCA closed

[@MrKrampyHands]

Yep I got ‘em and for only 200$ on eBay brand new from upstate electronics I got kinda lucky

[@thegrumptastic]

2021, girls still love that

[@phillylawyer]

Five years later, how do they stand against the competition?

[@ZReviews]

I haven't heard them in 5 years. I think we all moved on.

[@Cownt299]

Okay I could do with a little advice I currently have a pair of Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro and a pair of Sennheiser HD6XX. I did have the AKG K7XX but I sold them as they didn't really do a lot for me. Currently just have them running through a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 interface and into my PC but I plan on replacing that with the Schiit Modi/Magni 3. I like the Custom One Pro sound but they seem awfully lacking in detail since picking up the HD6XX. Also love the build quality and general feel of the Beyerdynamics. I have a lot of awkward piercings, stretched ears and a mohawk so I have trouble finding headphones that are comfortable, but these fit like a dream. I'm still looking to hang onto the HD6XX but I think I want something to replace the "punchy" sound of the Custom One Pro, just with a little more detail, and for when I want something skull-rattling. I don't find the HD6XX to be satisfying in that area, as amazing as they sound everywhere else. I was dead set on the Fostex TR-X00 Mahogany until seeing the release of the DT 177X. I'm still a little swayed towards the TR-X00, especially with the current EU shipping drop. Factoring in tax and shipping, both headphones come in at around roughly the same price, with the TR-X00 being around £35-40 more expensive. Any chance of a little advice as to which way to go? Thanks in advance!

[@RhubarbSenpai]

From the research I've done, it seems like the build quality is hands down better on the 177X, and I still see complaints about the Fostex being overly bright, comparatively (if you're treble sensitive). Did you wind up pulling the trigger on either? Would love to hear your impressions, I'm in the same boat myself (currently rocking 6XX, looking for a good closed back for mixing / bass)

[@mariodrv]

The original Berserk anime is phenomenal.

[@ZReviews]

Undoubtedly. But the CG one from a few years back... GAAAG

[@darktrexcz]

It's such a shame, such a good manga deserves a good anime.

[@MartinManweiler]

so im guessing those pads would help my dt770's?

[@SussyBaka-em9rq]

Yes

[@7MAD-OLAMBA]

I own almost every model/size/shape of Brainwavz's pads. They are fine, but they never did the trick for me comfort wise. Oddly, I found my ear pads salvation in Monoprice's $13 pads. I have put them on my HDR160, HDR175, MDR-V6, and DT770. For my T5p gen2, I went with DENON AH-D2000 replacement pads. Perfect fit and no more discomfort.

[@supert812]

Just got mine in today! So far I'm loving it!

[@theprinceofeverything1975]

How do you feel about them now? Are they the best closedbacks around that price? Do they work well off a smartphone?

[@supert812]

@@theprinceofeverything1975 so far they are my go to they run really well off a cell phone

[@theprinceofeverything1975]

@@supert812 thats awsome, thank you so much

[@supert812]

@@theprinceofeverything1975 no problem hope i helped!

[@jettsom]

I got the 177X today and immediately put some Brainwavz XL, huge difference! Even my girlfriend prefer these headphones over my Hifiman Sundara. One of the best closed back I heard in a while.

[@theprinceofeverything1975]

Sorry to bother you but would you mind sending me a link for those xl brainwavz pads

[@jettsom]

@@theprinceofeverything1975 The link is right there in the description above.

[@theprinceofeverything1975]

@@jettsom thank you

[@256alexdt]

Bro something is wrong with your ears ... I got those and the Sundara and the Sundara are light years better... Those are ok close back but nothing to lose sleep about.

[@theprinceofeverything1975]

@@256alexdt then I suppose the Sundara are something to lose sleep about?

[@sagaempyrean]

With the Brainwavz XL Perf Pads, how do these compare to the 1990s for you?

[@sonicthehedgehog989]

Damn you zeos I'll get these now because of you. I wanted to get the right pair if beyerdynamic headphones, these seem like the right option.

[@nicktan4530]

It's not damn him. It's your fault for not assessing the situation before making a decision

[@CSDsofaKing]

Damnit, I was just about to buy some M1060c's to attempt a headband swap test with my LCD-2C and 4xx. Then these come out..... Decisions.....

[@dnalekaw4699]

they are absolutely nothing alike

[@CSDsofaKing]

@@dnalekaw4699 Never said they were

[@dnalekaw4699]

@@CSDsofaKing sometimes implications can be stronger that explicity

[@s7robe297]

CSDsofaKing the 2C is in a completely different league compared to these headphones. If you like a darker sound and want a headphone that has a much better technicalities compared to the other headphones you mentioned, the lcd2c is the way to go by far. (You’ll need a pretty decent amp though)

[@666thsense]

changing the pads with the groove and notch is super easy, i don't understand how anyone can have a problem with it.

[@piratepat44]

It makes me so happy that this video was linked from Massdrop xD you've made it zeos! maybe you already had made it for a while, but at least I know now that you have! and massdrop is now officially supporting lolicon hahahaha

[@mtk3668]

Thanks to your rec i bought a pair of brainwavz xl PU perforated for my DT 1770. sadly i cant get the drop version in europe. the pad upgrade was very nice.

[@thejackofclubs]

you need a multimeter so you can measure impedance when youre not given a speclist

[@koerel]

You can't measure headphone impedance with a multimeter.

[@Digeeedad]

Thanks for the great review! I have a pair of the DT177X scheduled to be delivered to me tomorrow. Super excited, I've even ordered the Brainwavz Perforated pads. You begin the mention that the hybrid Brainwavz are the "best all around". If you can recall, what did you find about the hybrids that you liked? How was the bass response? Thanks

[@icanthinkofaname390]

I wonder how these compare to the Neumann NDH20

[@hselaxattack12]

Zeos how do you feel about this set vs DT770 80ohm? Worth the upgrade for $380? Or too similar sound? I'm not convinced it's worth it to me, I use DT770 in the office and have Denon D7200, HD650, LCD2C at home, Andromeda for IEMs. So DT770 is weakest link. Thoughts? Price is close to Fostex TR-X00 also.

[@kwicksandz]

unless you care about isolation i would take the fostex over any beyer

[@hselaxattack12]

@@kwicksandz I do care about isolation, and I already have Denon 7200 which are similar to Fostex. Really just asking to try to get a feel for the price range, but my main question is whether or not its a worthy upgrade if I have 770s. I am leaning to it not being worth it currently.

[@clownworldresidentii5184]

@@hselaxattack12 I heard the 1770 in a store once, after owning the 770 80 ohms and at the time I thought the 1770 were better, but way too brutal

[@ely1ahGawron]

Im wondering, could you make a full review about the Nura headphones, all i care is your opinion its the only one i trully trust, not that internet crap in comments on Facebook or any other place. :)

[@Commander_Strider]

Mass drop watches z and then picks out headphones to fix

[@ZReviews]

Koss Pro4AX Soon?

[@Commander_Strider]

@@ZReviews what if they put out a ath-mxx

[@aidanfriedfeld8889]

mass drop Grado X?

[@TR1CKZST3R42]

music at 17:56 ?

[@TsunTzu]

Heh, back to 380. And purchased. I like the beyer signature/build and...yeah, this'll be my closed end game for quite a long while. Provided it actually sounds worth the price relative to the Custom Game they're replacing anyway.

[@TsunTzu]

Wearing them right now...and, yes, they were very much worth the price and the jump from the Customs. Prefer hybrid pads or the leathers, as I've found the perforated suck out a bit too much low end for my liking.

[@fallenpumpkinhead]

I feel like this video was getting dangerously close to being 5 minutes so Z started changing pads

[@MovieMowDown]

Do they work with XLR cables?

[@DarrellFranklin]

Yes. Just bought one and they sound fantastic

[@Tengu98]

just a heads up the link to the pads aren't the same pads you are using in the video. I actually can't find the brainwave pads on Amazon, I see it through their website though

[@DoingEvil01]

Found that as well. I even tried to order direct from Brainwavz direct and 2 days after ordering got "Unfortunately we have just run out of stock on our XL Perforated earpads." and the order was cancelled.

[@Tengu98]

@@DoingEvil01 you would probably also want to look into a replacement cable as I hear even though the headphones are balanced the cable isn't.

[@QuentaceQ]

What is the name of the song at 5:30 please ? Gungrave ost doctor none?

[@ZReviews]

yep

[@Satyajit_Dey]

Who wins still? This or 1990 pros?

[@EHinz1]

a 12 in. kick drum would be real small

[@sphaera3809]

Hey Zeos, I strongly disagree with your pad recommendation. IME, with the perforated XL pads the sound lost a great deal of focus and impact (I'm returning them). Everything felt far away. I'm trying to decide between the stock and the leather pads. I feel the stock velour might offer the better sonic characteristics, but the leather the best comfort. I do think one should not try to increase the size of the pads though as it will most certainly degrade the sonic presentation.

[@Coztomba]

Agreed. I've only had the 1770x a day. After a day with the stock pads they I changed to the perforated XL's and they lost all of what little impact they had (which isn't that much imo). Disappointed with the headphones so far but a few people seem to say they take a good while to break in which gives me some hope.

[@briancaulfield7251]

Coztomba yeah, the bass got stronger on mine after a while, just make sure they’re sealing around your ears completely, that’s one of the big issues with these. the velour pads break in a little too which helps. In any case, the sheepskin pads should provide more bass period

[@959tolis626]

Yo Zeos, talking about good closed backs, Audio Technica brought out a new version of the MSR7, the MSR7b. They are alledgedly amazing, haven't tried them myself yet though. If you're interested in fucking with them a bit, I might have a few secrets I can share.

[@Sheisintomalakasdino]

you do realize there is a retainer ring that comes off for easy pad changes right? LMAO

[@Tengu98]

Does anyone know where I can get 4 pin xlr balanced cable to aux? I can't find them anywhere. Google is only showing 3 pin ones and Amazon only has really short ones.

[@M.C.D.Technologies]

I believe they are not making the Darkvoice 336se any more happy I got one a few years ago.

[@rhodey2952]

ACDCnLedZeppelin interesting...I just received mine. I was looking at it for years. Glad I picked it up.

[@M.C.D.Technologies]

@@rhodey2952 Yeah I read that on Head-Fi on the DarkVoice thread, it might be true a few places no longer have stock but the over seas sites like Aliexpress and the like I can still find the Darkvoice for sale. it just might be left overs or they still might be making some. If it never comes back on Massdrop which it has not for a while I would likely say that it is indeed been discontinued. I would love to see Z build a Bottle Head Crack with the Speed Ball upgrade it is suppose to be an awesome OTL tube amp..

[@cazmofan]

Should I get these or the Aeon open X? I'm a bit of a basshead with a soft spot for detail and instrument separation

[@MananaMan]

"it goes in every possible direction (girls love that)" Lmaooooo

[@josjedanpart]

MMX 300 vs this headset? I am looking for closed back for music and some gaming! I am no audiophile but I do like good quality music. I really hate that mic and cable on MMX 300 but you seem to be amazed by the sound quality which is why I ask for opinion? Also worth mentioning that this would be my first headphone that I paid more than 150$.

[@WatchmanNiel]

Wait for this, or buy the Ether CX now? How does the lower bass presence compare between these?

[@jownbey]

What would you think about these against the khan 990’s? That $350 range is crowded.

[@L0stW0n]

Thanks for another great review Zeos! Should I get these or the Vokyl Erupt for gaming and music?

[@rolandomontelongomendoza2769]

Is it possible to adapt a vmoda mic to the 177x? If so, do you know an adapter for that purpose?

[@nekekaminger]

The foam pads you pointed out to differ from the stock 1770 look to be the same as the ones the Amiron Wireless comes with. I put them into my 1990s and they do indeed reduce the treble quite a bit. While I was at it I also put the Amiron Earpads on the 1990 and BOOOM, they add SO much bass, it's actually not enjoyable for me anymore xD

[@blessedred]

Apparently they are 32 oHm. Heard it from Badseed Tech. He ran it on his Note 9 and said it ran just fine.

[@VinnyB77]

couldnt watch the badseed tech video when I heard him mispronounce Beyerdynamic in the first 10 seconds of the video

[@blessedred]

@@VinnyB77 Says more about you then it does him.

[@LeJohnz]

Best 700-1000 massdrop headphone? Massdrop x Mrspeaket Cx, Focal Elex, HiFi Man edition xx

[@s7robe297]

I love my elex. Very speaker like sound. The CX is fantastic as well, but kind of boring imo.

[@litsaudio]

you did a lot of headphones and amps do speakers next you got some interesting pairs pending

[@freezyt8445]

DUDE. I would totally get these but I have 770s and no reason to buy another closed set... thinking about buying just to try and maybe selling 770s or selling 177x at full price?... Money is an object :(

[@nonenothing4412]

watch metal571 review and better do not Risking.

[@BD-tp6pr]

Nice these are on my shortlist! Thx for the quick review Zeos. Problem is here in Europe (Netherlands) they cost 400 - 420 euro's as we speak. 380 Dollars + 21% tax + customs + shipping is about the same or even more expensive. Soooowww..... are these better than the 1770 PRO?

[@SKY11211213]

still better. Imo , I own the custom studio - make ur own decision if thats high quality sound, its better because the highs colour the voices too much. I like colouring but when ms voice gets altered to much in a way my voice from my microphone sounds completly different then the treble is just too high. I got the Jubilee 1 week ago and its neutral. I am sure the beyer will have like 95 treble compared to jublilee with 90 out of 100 (pain starts at 100)

[@motorave3695]

Do these headphones leak as much sound as the DT1770? I need headphones for work, but the dt1770 leaked way too much sound. I returned them and bought DT1990 which are awesome, but I need something for work.

[@syedzgaming]

dt1770 leak sound?...damn.which phone for work now...

[@motorave3695]

@@syedzgaming I use Neumann NDH20 now.

[@stuartcarson9378]

Would you recommend those pads for the DT770 Pro's ?

[@hxsm8090]

I have the 770s. Just buy the thick hm5 pads. Ummhhhh....im using it with a tube and...ohh....

[@s7robe297]

Use stock pads for the love of god. You’re not going to get better sound.

[@FrancisDGM]

For a gamer side only ... those or the arctis pro + dac ?

[@AJWilliams2014]

Are these better than the cooler master and the m40x?

[@Pteromyini]

Ether CX coming? I’m very interested in those since you liked the C flow

[@ZReviews]

sooooooooooooooooooooon

[@yanuehara8017]

Wait, isn't the takstar pro 82 in your wall anymore??

[@ZReviews]

It never was. Its in a bag on the bottom to not get dusty.

[@yanuehara8017]

@@ZReviews oh, so you still love my little precious comfort kings?

[@ZReviews]

I almost sold them for the Cooler Master MH751. But didn't

[@nonenothing4412]

@@ZReviews why If you said that cooler master is bettered?

[@aithemed]

Also I think creative aurvana live was on the wall for “reference “

[@elias38]

I didn’t know what to think about these

[@Pyregazer]

can anyone compare these to the ath-a900x or 990z's? I have both and those are kindof my close back bass cannons, but iching to upgrade...maybe

[@Pyregazer]

actually, just listened to some duke ellington at newport black and tan fantasy on these audio technica's and think Im gonna keep em and they punch waaaaaay above their price range for certain things.

[@Pyregazer]

try em out at 220 usd, horns sound gaddamn great...well actually that cd sounds better than I've ever heard it on the right amp (bit of tubey goodness)

[@Pyregazer]

best horns I've ever heard, sorry for spam just trying to be useful a bit

[@RealSteveEyes]

Beyerdynamic DT 177X vs Fostex Ebony which one do you think is better? I'm stuck between these 2 I usually listen to hip hop and R&B need that bass!!!!!

[@briancaulfield7251]

Fostex is better but it’s no longer in production, you’ll have to try and find a used pair. It’s also not fully closed, it’s more semi-open

[@RealSteveEyes]

@@briancaulfield7251 where does it say it's not in production? On massdrop it says it's just not in stock..

[@briancaulfield7251]

RealSteveEyes it’s said that for about 10 months. Google it, I think there are a couple reddit posts, one from Drop Official saying it was no longer in production. There might be comments on the Drop product page about it too

[@RealSteveEyes]

@@briancaulfield7251 This is the email I got from drop about it "Hi , Thanks for reaching out. We appreciate your anticipation and overall enthusiasm for the product. There are many factors involved when determining when a run will become active again. Due to these factors, we are not entirely sure when this run will become active again. If you have not already done so, please click the blue "Request" button to request that this run is active again. The additional benefit of this is that you will automatically be emailed when another run becomes active. We appreciate your patience and understanding. Feel free to contact us if we can help you with anything else. Sincerely, Drop Community Support"

[@briancaulfield7251]

RealSteveEyes that’s probably the same email they send to everyone when inquiring about an inactive Drop, especially one that hasn’t been active in a while. I think their contract with Fostex ended and they chose not to renew.

[@humanbass]

Higher Ground is actually a Stevie Wonder song.

[@brandonbreuer6589]

These vs beyerdynamic t5p?

[@ZReviews]

T5P probably. Those are top of the line.

[@brandonbreuer6589]

@@ZReviews I've been eying a used set of t5p 2nd gens on head-fi for $500. I've read lots of reviews, but your review was first gen, someone should send you the new ones for review.

[@joshgubser2625]

I hate the t5p.2. they are inarticulate. Bassy, but lack clarity. A/b with Amiron Home and AH murders them. AH vs 1770 still favors AH, but not as much. DT 1770> T5p.2

[@brandonbreuer6589]

@@joshgubser2625 That's interesting, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the t5p 2nd gen and everyone seems to like it.

[@joshgubser2625]

I wanted to. Maybe it needed an amp, but from my Zx300, which powers my Amiron and 1770, it sounded like crap. Just muddy. I was very disappointed. I wanted to love it.

[@nc33228]

Found these used perfect condition for $240 so I’m possibly making this pick up next to my hd650

[@epochphilosophy]

What is going on in 24:35 lmfao

[@DualityV2_]

anywhere i can get pads with indents or something for glasses? got some DT990 prems i want to upgrade, they press on my frames atm :(

[@Osprey1994]

From one glasses wearer to another... No I take my glasses off usually or I deal with it. You might just need to find a pair of headphones that can use super comfy pads.

[@BruceLee-oo3tz]

how does this headphones compare to sundara?

[@GiltleyRage]

Please review Custom Studios which are based on DT770 but they supposed to have better treble...

[@coztac1991]

Okay, so what pads do I put on my 1990s?

[@ZReviews]

Stock. Don't ruin it.

[@darktrexcz]

I own the dt770 80ohms. I'm a bit of a bass head. I've been eyeing the fostex th-x00, now i see these. If i love the raw sound of my dt770s but looking for an upgrade which do you think i should go for? I should also mention i have a schitt smear with a loki in the middle, so i can eq them.

[@Osprey1994]

I have the THX00 PH's and I love them. But I have toyed with the idea of selling them a few times. I need to figure out what Z would suggest replacing them with because these are my fun headphones.

[@Gxbbzee]

As someone who has owned both the DT1770's and the TH-X00 Purple Hearts, I'd strongly suggest going DT1770, or even 1990 if you're not going to be wearing them near others. The sub bass alone is so satisfying on the 1770's. and they're quite a bit clearer. After EQ'ing the bright spots, they're a far more pleasing headphone imo, and I regret selling them.

[@roxas3794]

Would these be a good upgrade from Fidelio X2?

[@nicktan4530]

No

[@BarodiusKnight]

@@nicktan4530 how come?

[@nicktan4530]

@@BarodiusKnight different sound singature. Open vs closed characterics

[@shumba_the_don]

hey zeos great review. you should do a video with your german accent ;-)

[@ronens1653]

Hi Z😜 Which set of headphones would you recommend or choose to listen to the album VAPOR by Yosi horikawa beside the 177x go? I have 770 pro 80 h with the closed pads (like the ones you recommended on this video) and looking for (I know I'm sick) more powerful set for around $500. Or the 177x way better than the 770 pro and just purchase them. Thanks in advance.

[@clickbaitpro]

177x is just different sounding, more flat sounding headphone and 770 Pro are more like v shape sounding.

[@ronens1653]

@@clickbaitpro thank you 👍

[@Harvester88]

Are 1990's better than 1770's overall ? Should I consider these or just spring for 1990's ?

[@ZReviews]

Different Signatures.. You have to know what you want.

[@theomcbride1232]

Great video again, I've got the T1,T90,DT770 love the signature sound. But couldn't agree more with him about the "fuck you" T90 sound lol, however they all pair well with a tube !

[@chuckseeger7743]

Ok Z 177x go or trx00 for bass one will be my next pair of cans 🎧.

[@alfredoblanco3265]

You should head to drop. Someone compare them on the discussion. If i remember. For bass the trx00 but they say they also have piercing highs.

[@chuckseeger7743]

Thanks for the help much appreciated

[@trashaccount5122]

So should I get myself the DT1990 for 399 instead of these for 380?

[@JireSoftware]

Yes, open-back vs closed your choice

[@ZReviews]

I mean.. Sheet [amzn.to/2Io3c7e]

[@trashaccount5122]

@@ZReviews link seems to be broken. At least to me

[@QuentaceQ]

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