Zerg Cheese to Grandmaster #16 - My Best Zerg Game Ever?

[@Espresso27]

I feel like the hardest challenge for thermy is gonna be decent creep spread to grandmaster 😂

[@tohron675]

What do you mean, thermy's perfectly good at spreading creep... as long as it originates from a proxy hatch.

[@Lloyd-Ferri-McFerrilson]

New challenge: cover the entire map in creep

[@PeterBressau]

He's going to win the challenge by producing mass overlords and spread them across the map generating poop creep piles till theres enough % covered so it counts. 😅

[@elricdotah]

@@Lloyd-Ferri-McFerrilson "you are only allowed to fight on creep"

[@bookworm8415]

@@PeterBressaui want to see this. Thermy. Read this comment thread lol

[@disinformationworld9378]

4:03 “hope u r proud clown” 35:00 “Yo, am I an actual Zerg player, now? Why I am playing well?” Proud zerg player Marc. 36:41 “Oh, I’m a Zerg player, let’s go!”. Marc is proud again. 38:08 “hope u r proud” 38:12 “This, I’m actually proud”. Marc, agrees. Very proud 😂

[@BeastGrid]

You are a great salt miner, unintentionally of course. 10/10 video as always thermy

[@2pairOfAces]

On the plus side, your next silly challenge already has an AMAZING alt name: "Proud Clown"

[@Szokynyovics]

Yes yes yes!!!😂

[@sintanan469]

"Random cheese to grandmaster" a.k.a. "Common Ladder Player" a.k.a. "Proud Clown".

[@nikolaipasko]

hope u r proud

[@deepvoid2871]

proudclown is an awesome name tbh

[@JohnHenryJones-u1r]

Game 3 Nexus count: 12 22:47 Hydra 26:45 Pee 27:26 Pee 30:45 Pee 32:08 Zerglings 32:47 Pee 33:25 Zerglings 33:32 Pee 34:42 Pee 35:11 Zerglings 35:25 Pee 36:32 Pee No more Nexus ):

[@dahn57]

lol

[@damnplaylist]

muhahahahahaha i r proud

[@limchuanzhe9825]

Most killed is pee😂

[@kaiser2261]

Man, it was pretty hard keeping tabs on the protoss army in game 3. If only there was a zerg mechanic that improved map vision, perhaps in the form of purple gunk. ;)

[@keithcarlson1020]

95% of the time the army was in his main base, where creep wouldn't have helped.

[@dyg107]

The joy of seeing uThermal discover the joys of high level Zerg. Best neurals ever! Imagine the joys of perfect creep spread 😅

[@pinkfloyddwc]

Biggest joy for me is making max banes and just a-moving everything

[@Tytykiller]

Really love the zerg series & I'd love to mention a tip as zerg: you can ctrl+click on eggs to hotkey the units before they spawn

[@Kuehta]

PoE AND SC2? you have good taste :^)

[@SeekAndDestroyTM]

Ctrl+click then shift+# of control group #zerglife

[@astronemir]

Speed run to GM while tyty killer already GM in SC3

[@birdy_coolbeans]

now that we've got you building zerg tech units, in the next couple months maybe we'll see some creep spread! I always appreciate your videos, marc.

[@badicusvibesimus182]

hope u r proud

[@jaychoi9281]

R u proud?? 🤔🤣

[@UnIikelyhero]

im proud

[@Amdor]

I am Proudicus

[@lg6707]

I hope he is

[@abeDkim]

Proud of you. Gg

[@TerryKristopher3707]

You having a blast pissing those nexus' down was quite entertaining. Honestly, I've always preferred watching your terran videos over zerg and protoss. Now I love watching your zerg videos almost as much as terran. You definitely play more of a terran zerg than anyone else.

[@Crmson83]

Watching you bully a Protoss with neural and intelligent movement was very satisfying, good job thermy!

[@zerkmerk8257]

God job smurfing vs someone lower mmr than you! Lolllllll

[@Batmane812]

when I saw that second "hope u r proud" I laughed my face off hahah. We're proud of you thermy hahah well played

[@rhpmike]

Marc: I'm a real zerg! I've been practicing! I made vipers, infestors, used neural! Also Marc: 25 minute game and creep on 1/12 of the map hahah

[@FailsafeZero]

The Zerg cheese to GM challenge also doubles as the Zerg no creep to GM challenge lol

[@danielgibson3422]

He would love to spread creep, but sadly blizzard removed creep colonys when making SC2 and it is therefore impossible. 😏

[@Shannendetro]

@@danielgibson3422no, they still have them, just renamed to hatcheries

[@dogabutila]

Only thing keeping him back from being a pro zerg is the creep spread

[@acrumblingworld7756]

Love your work and attitude towards the salt Marc. Amazing work. Your creep spread (or lack there of) still stresses me out. XD

[@kevinkuzi]

What makes the salt even more enjoyable is your genuine amazement of yourself and lack of response lmao. Truly funny

[@immarudamu4508]

That last game was a game of composure and decisions not armies. You always stay present to the moment and destroy. Great games as always!

[@lekhakaananta5864]

Yeah, Marc has the advantage of having a lot of base trading experience to make all the correct decisions there. For most players at lower levels than him, they are disproportionally less likely to have that experience compared to other skills because lower level SC2 tend to be decided when one player snowballs and curb-stomps the other. Base trading only gets more common at the top levels where the games are close and the players both know how to take good fights. Which results in more scenarios where both players refuse to fight the opposing army and instead go for base trades.

[@hogie48]

"I hope you are proud clown" is just the best. Like fully admitting its a stupid build, but they still lost to it rofl. If it is such a clown build then what does that make them :p. Keep up the great salt mining work Marc, A+.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

This was very fun to watch, and the salt made it even better :D

[@DJ-3maj]

We're proud of your Marc

[@evbvini]

these games were so cool to watch! super fun

[@vincentvondoomer3911]

It's really been enjoyable watching you have fun, Marc.

[@alexyushiwang]

i laughed so hard at the final game salt LOL

[@Eckster]

17:25 just felt like the epitome of being annoying in every little way you can 😂

[@Travinobabino]

I love your attitude towards the game whether you win or lose. I’d love to have an attitude like yours.

[@pukism]

In Radhuset Station you can build a hatch near the 3rd location. There's a spot between minerals at natural, 3rd base location, and mineral wall are just far enough. This would be a proxy hatch behind wall off. Probably send first overlord there to have high ground vision.

[@Nymphibious]

Fans: "I bet you can't beat Grandmasters with Zerg and no creep at all" - Marc: "Watch this"

[@dahn57]

Great work, especially the last game! One utterly stupid thing I noticed in this game though, I'd not noticed before. I know that you need high ground vision to see units at higher elevations, but it seems REALLY dumb that you cannot see flying units as well until you can see the higher ground level! At one point Marc's unit's ran up a ramp, and only when they got to the top, did they see the protoss flyers waiting at the top of the ramp! Those flying units should have already been visible, it's insane that even flyers can hide on top of high ground!

[@uberculex]

That's a key feature to zerg scouting with overlords.

[@dahn57]

@@uberculex That a flying unit can hide behind a cliff face? That's dumb as all hell! If you were looking up from the bottom of a cliff, sure, you wouldn't be able to see the ground units on top, but a flying unit would be rather obvious. It would be like hiding a flyer behind one of the grass/steam/foliage los blockers, you'd be easily be able to see it over the top. Makes no sense at all

[@uberculex]

@@dahn57 Lots of things don't make sense. It's a video game. Why can a cluster of like 12 marines shoot down a capital ship battlecruiser with just some assault weapons. Also, why do drugs affect their guns? Why can't zerg roaches burrow through a supply depot but they can go through it when it is lowered? It doesn't matter and now zerg balance relies on it so it will never be changed.

[@lekhakaananta5864]

@@uberculex Video game design still relies on a degree of common sense intuition as a shortcut for humans to comprehend what is happening. Otherwise you could argue that Starcraft needs no graphics and all the pieces can be abstract dots. The degree to which intuition matches game mechanics is something that the game designers actually care about, and from that game design perspective you can argue for things to be changed. Many people would argue that the examples you listed are not as egregiously counter-intuitive or common as flying units "hiding" by hovering 10m above a ramp. This is because humans have a good intuitive grasp of how LOS should work in 3D space. Contrast that to why stim makes guns shoot faster... that's more a lore problem. Most players just think of it as "ability that makes them shoot faster" and don't even know "stim" refers to stimulant drugs. It is not counter-intuitive at a single glance, in the same way that the flyers are. Maybe it can't be fixed because of overlord mechanics, but that doesn't stop it from seeming way more stupid than those other mentioned examples.

[@mohammedmasud2150]

I dont comment that often, but I genuinely cant get enough of you videos

[@bli3i]

Absolutely loved this episode. well done, Marc!

[@TheAndrwwJohnson]

Anytime you make a barcode cry, an angel gets its wings.

[@JasonAuger-gs4ve]

I feel like flying your skytoss into neurals that you clearly know are around was the real braindead move lol

[@MrTBSC]

well maybe he looked into a mirror while writing ...

[@gamerhappy4512]

im sure its a good video , thanks thermal your the best

[@-Raylight]

Hope u r proud! You should, that was beautiful xD

[@IamKnucks]

Hail to the King of Blades!

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

Have been noticing this for quite some time now, corruptor puke has so much dps you usually cannot even save the base with some units nearby or sometimes even in place. I feel like it could be a little bit lower, even though i quite enjoy using it as zerg.

[@zollof6699]

That last dude must've been so pissed off. GG my man.

[@epicsensi]

let's freaking go! Great show Marc! those neurals were fantastic

[@spideycw]

"I've evolved so much as a Zerg player" and spreads no creep. Love you Marc!! Can't wait to see the creep spread to GM challenge

[@TEauxFTW]

Proud of your Zerg play!

[@AdamFabiano]

I crack up every time a salty-souled opponent calls you a clown--hail to the clown chief!

[@lekhakaananta5864]

28:38 Silly goose says: "It can burrow while moved" (Tooltip says: "It can move while burrowed")

[@Zecuto]

Terran player tries Zerg and discovers the game can be fun 😂

[@glassin1093]

As a zerg player, Im very proud of you 🎉

[@kylerossi7961]

I love how the last guy calls uThermal a "braindead monkey" when all he was doing was wall expanding into voidray-carrier with almost zero scouting

[@calgaryhockey6991]

Rosebud - Rosebud (1941) "Mrs. Bates?.....Ahhhh" - Psycho (1960) "No, I am your father" - Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) "I see people. They don't know they are dead" - The Sixth Sense (1999) "hope u r proud" - Zerg Cheese to Grandmaster #16 - My Best Zerg Game Ever? (2023)

[@knowledgeispower3212]

You should make a salt extractor series . The way you get salt out of people is funnier than pigs for some reason

[@chrislangton4662]

I think its funnier because these people are grandmasters and should have some sort of understanding how the game works, they should know how to counter Marc but instead complain lmao

[@HandsomeSloth]

Pig casts salt games that are sent to him, its not exactly the same. Also uthermal is a pretty positive person, I don' think salt is the main reason people are here. Unexpected salt is fun. Purposely mining salt would feel inauthentic and mean spirited and I highly doubt he would ever go there.

[@MadShadow_]

He gets surprising little amount of salt since he's creating content the last 18 plus months. And going purposely for it is bad form. Just leave it up to coincidence let the players play themselves is just the best course of action here.

[@zerkmerk8257]

I'm sure pig would get quite a bit of salt if he smurfed for views

[@HandsomeSloth]

@@zerkmerk8257 you're funny, coming to uthermals channel to shit on his content when most here enjoy it. Classic

[@mfalk6263]

Man, this makes me want to play some sc2 again.

[@Ajamesmith]

What a proper Zerg! Love it! Banger video as always

[@I_am_Romey]

Marc, watching you discover zerg has been awesome. Im terran for life, but the joy of watching you beat high level players with zerg is awesome

[@david4portland]

Love this video. Thanks, uThermal!

[@aneubeck4053]

The revelation at the very end that you were playing the same salty guy was so funny

[@Pryde551]

Very fun games! Now I need to find some Pepper to go with all that Salt!!

[@vladimirmijatovic4171]

With the last game, only creep spread is missing and Mark is a full blown zerg player xD

[@PooNagoo]

Also as much as I love his Terran and toss, zerg has to be my fav race to watch him play. Always such fun games and styles haha. Also love to watch good players play Zerg bc it seems so fun and it’s my worst race sadly lol

[@Kaboomnz]

Reminds me of the old saying, pride comes before a protoss falls

[@joediaz001]

You are having too much fun my friend. Good for you!

[@tfat00]

Nice one! You should be proud of that Zerg play 💪

[@yum33333]

It's so funny watching you use Neural the 1st time... as a grandmaster MMR zerg.

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Thanks for the fun! ^^

[@CamiloCBG]

Same guy: _hope u r proud_ _gg_ 😂

[@ErenisRanitos]

"And that is a little-bit of a big deal." - Marc, 2023

[@oysteivi]

Our little boy is a zerg player now

[@지갑텅텅구리]

The proud protoss is so funny lol 🤣

[@Cyanidrock]

«Braindead monkey» 😂😂😂 That protoss salt😅

[@emersonrodrigo7897]

Nice video! Um pedido de vídeo e desafio, "roubar" um probe com infestor e fazer unidades em um grande exercito zerg/protoss ou zerg/terran para uma epica batalha final!

[@Kilmore07]

I cant help but crack up when he says "version", it sound so much like he is saying virgin. > D

[@Bayesic]

Holy shit that last game was a thing of beauty

[@wolvie90]

I fucking love how Marc with zero irony said "I'm freaking proud of this one" 10 seconds after the dude ragequit with "I hope you're proud braindead monkey".

[@woohab]

thanks for the games i needed this today

[@AtillaTheFun1337]

So many people say that corrupters are boring, but I personally find them to be pretty fun. I like their flavor of having extra base armor and the (relatively) new barf attack indeed gives them another dimension

[@xai__]

It's so beautiful watching your zerg develop!

[@JonEffinZoidberg]

"Let's go boys!!" LMAO

[@howthewestwaswon1890]

I hope you are proud. This was amazing

[@moweinteractive]

That artosis pylon in the second game tho😅

[@TheArtanis7]

With non stop aggressiveness even he lost more worth of units, manage to win. Toss could not attack. Great game!

[@TheFavorite95]

im wondering if during the baneling you couldve moved the spores and spines up first, helping more banes connect. was prob over anyway

[@IndefinableNebulaCrystals]

very fun game!) i like your zerg

[@alilhard]

This first guy was kinda hilarious, get cheesed on then gets salty. Reminds me of a pro player that went for a 6 pool in one of the final matches of a tournament, sent everything including drones, got scouted and just gged then and there, just thinking of the steel balls on this dude for going "f it, I'm rushing this"

[@nenok1]

Simply love you and your craft :)

[@gontrandtrand]

17:26 🤣 Goooo boyzzzz

[@mujtabaalsaihati3017]

The amount of joy I felt when he said u proud 😂😂😂

[@alk672]

That was a different guy. Any human would react with that exact line :)

[@soulofshukaku]

"Am I a Zerg now, guys?!" not until you learn to spread creep. Just start by connecting your bases so Brenda can run instead of having to use the assisted living walkers. Just... Just a tiiiiiny bit. pls. Love the strats, especially game 3. The corrupter's spray is criminally underused. I think the best is to bait away the army, then put 8-10 to spray the nexus, and the rest spread out on production buildings. The ramp up makes even a few sprayers do tons of damage. If you can get the enemy to leave for a good 20 seconds, you can fully wipe out a base, not just the nexus. I think it would work, anyway.

[@garymortensen4392]

Thermy you are my favorite youtuber now! What a banger!

[@Efemral]

It is SOOOO satisfying to see the corrupters used like that.

[@inthefade]

I love an incompetent person losing to a half-baked strategy and then calling someone else a clown for it.

[@Vaprous]

38:18- Lol what, what salt, I understood the first time, but man, the second time around, you played not only a really good game, but a frankly borderline standard game of late game Z v P.

[@matlight9593]

The teaser😂😂😂 soooo proud 😂

[@IcariumGaming]

I think its perfect seeing barcodes rage.

[@quitequiet5281]

Very proud of that banger!!!

[@berndkiltz]

That last game 😂

[@SeekAndDestroyTM]

Game 2 with the 2gate you just didn't anticipate the need for a spore fast enough. Then you mine from gold and win.

[@kommisar.]

"I feel like I'm finally starting to play like a real Zerg!" (not a single Creep Tumor anywhere)

[@menyaZavootMuzzy]

Watching thermie cause GMs to ragequit is my favorite thing to do while drinking my morning coffee.

[@janoshkronos1882]

the pylon ... thy pylon ... just the pylon 12:40

[@elricdotah]

In game 2 he had only two pylons, one of which was powering all the shield batteries. If you would've focused on them, you would've disabled everything and then could've cleaned up the army.

[@jamescpalmer]

hOpE yOu ArE pRoUd XD That guy was a salt mine