中国六代机全面登顶美版头条！哈佛教授怒斥，实在是太敢说了

[@火熱鍵]

我們最怨恨、憤怒的是美國長臂管轄, 策動政顏色政變。

[@kevinzhang3891]

不管有没有川普，美国的制度都出现了系统性问题，开始分崩离析，往大了点说，这是由西方文明的宿命所决定的，因为这个文明体系的起点和发展就是野蛮和畸形的，出问题是早晚的事，公道一点说，现在把问题都推到川普身上不公平也很肤浅。

[@kib3571]

野蛮即无“人道”😂😂😂

[@lw221]

老董只是揭开了盖子，捅破了遮羞布。

[@djdj-4]

300年可能撑不下去了

[@marvinfok65]

川普2016年的当选就是美国人对腐化的制度的反感。美国制度已非常腐化了，才会出现川普和拜登之争。

[@曾林-k7q]

快乐教育的结果，懒惰，自大，无知

[@caliber90ft123]

很多人認為川普是因，其實川普是果，他正反映出美國普遍真實的狀況，只是少數的精英階層不願意面對。

[@GuyHappy-j7m]

西方思想仍不明或追不上中國哲學思想，中國從自我做起，溶入社會，創造大同，強調人類社會和諧的重要性。 西方以個人為中心，一切以個人自由為出發點，強調你管不了我，我也管不了你，這些理念是由戰爭及缺乏安全感引起的自由概念，今天美西方的自由主義，正是社會撕裂的源來。 西方解決不了自己面對的問題，卻走來中國說教，請西方學者多些研究中國哲學再說吧！

[@TakLau-t5w]

正解🎉🎉

[@chenguangzhang9086]

他们永远不明白：己所不欲勿施于人。

[@jzNottobee]

看来地方推崇的社会达尔文主义的弱肉强食适者生存的确不是治世之道！

[@温水綠井蛙]

是的，西方在这方面落后太多了！

[@micsow]

“不患寡而患不均”...似乎古今中外的哲學家也贊同。無限支持市場的，無非就是知道自己是精英，出於自私考慮，才會支持階級制度、完全市場競爭等環境。

[@memorecoolpan]

这个节目让人更感觉到世界的多样性，新年即将、祝节目越办越好！

[@kib3571]

一个文明的世界来自于人类对人道是否有觉醒，因为人的本质即是人性。

[@sjcabbw]

說法一 : 他用自己的腎換到一台iPhone 說法二 : 他不顧自身安危 , 勇敢地捐出一顆腎 , 救助一病危的老人. 老人家屬感激地給他一台iPhone , 希望能和他分享老人點滴. 哈佛教授怒斥 , 實在是太敢說了 !

[@PohYongChin-tp5lq]

懂王加大中國關稅，只會加大美國通貨膨脹，東西越來越貴，美國普羅人民不會得利！

[@cobydate3845]

😂肤淺

[@liulaolao7269]

@@cobydate3845 請拿些"高深"的出來.

[@cobydate3845]

答案在2026年​@@liulaolao7269

[@lisashung9442]

The professor is a wise man who has insights into humanity and society, understanding what are the essences of human society and the existential meanings of human society. 许知远is not a deep thinker and can’t understand what he try to point out to him.

[@avnidvyi]

He's just another person working in the media; what do you expect. Fragmentation is the key characteristic of this group of people; they have no systematic knowledge but just pieces of the story, which is suitable for the media. All they do is tell a story.

[@Shan-h7i]

@@avnidvyi 非常赞成！

[@sootoongkok]

A fascinating conversation between the two thinkers. It is very harsh to say that 許知遠 is not a deep thinker. He is a deep thinker in his own right definitely not as deep as the one he interviews. If he is deeper why should he find another to interview. He is enough a deep thinker to identify another deeper thinker to interview. Without that ‘deepness’, we would not able to watch the interview. This is rather abstract conversation. The interviewee in order to elaborate his point had to ask many questions resulting in seemingly, the roles have reversed- interviewer becomes interviewee and vice versa.

[@liulaolao7269]

@@avnidvyi So you've learned nothing from this video?

[@avnidvyi]

@@liulaolao7269 not much besides some history

[@Simon-lechuchu]

「分崩離析」的前奏！

[@lanlantulan]

very good conversation.. Thank you

[@Kelvin-e9y]

Who is the interviewer?

[@siimeewastiong9371]

文化不同！永远不能同一而论，这就是东方和西方的文化不同。

[@marktn9851]

Organ sale is immoral, as mentioned. The child is too young to comprehend its consequences years onward, hence, extremely unfair to use freedom of will based on demand/supply market forces. Operating doctors n nurses are professionals trained to know but took profit. They should be punished by a government who should protect its people.

[@liulaolao7269]

"should be punished by a government who should protect its people"? Not all governments are up to that.

[@marktn9851]

@ That’s why I used “should”, twice.

[@Zhujac]

God said evil spread lie and hate.

[@sleeaxly4242]

By now, you still don't see that: your "Public" are Doom. It is your"Public" made your politic today. 😂😂😂

[@Yuegang23Zhang-wk6xx]

达利欧早就说过了，这是生命的周期。

[@日落松風起]

另外，這位採訪者英文好，但可能不太了解麥可·桑德爾的思想(但他也不是原創)，因為這位採訪者的思想很公知，金錢交易的市場機制滲透到日常生活的各面向是一個看似很淺顯的陳述，但其實又很深刻，可是大陸公知又往往很推崇歐美市場論之類的陳腔濫調，其中一些思想正卻是麥可·桑德爾所反對的。

[@Human_kind_let_china_lead_us]

資本主義到頭了，就等入類找出下一個制度 。我等東大的00後文科生 自信開發出東大特色制度

[@Magicamera]

这是那一期的十三邀？哪一年的？

[@吴bill]

苏联没有勋宗这么会崩的这么快，美国需要懂王这样的人物开启美国的下半场。

[@洪振益]

你西方有你自己的制度，中國有中國的制度，不用爭論，看誰的結果好來證明！

[@user-dingye]

不用爭論，盡量合起來就好。撥左返中，撥右返中，盡量中就好。

[@usy8402]

公共性-通情达理 。不可跑极端路线，因为它不可持续发展最终会落败 。。。谈人性、虚实之间+界限...、价值...

[@liulaolao7269]

要點是不要只談功利, 不顧人性. 弱肉强食, 勝者全拿. 這方面, 西方是一片空白. 此之所以這位教授覺得他的見解很有深度, 與衆不同.

[@user-dingye]

矛盾的世界 用盾時勿忘矛 用矛時勿忘盾 祖國名叫中 中和最好

[@gazacao2007]

說不一定第三次世界大戰是特郎普發動的

[@tylee8895]

儒释道是正道。任何逆正道而行，种恶因必得恶果

[@jjbb-fl8ux]

什么电视剧？

[@johnli6782]

Meritocracy includes moral rectitude. Do not change the meaning of Meritocracy simply because it is recognized as the modes operandi of China's political philosophy.

[@liulaolao7269]

Just to add that Meritocracy includes long term considerations, not just 4 years' or 8 years' tenure. Consistency is one teething problem of voting democracy.

[@mingliu4175]

為什麼華夏兒女學生爭著要到美國學習？

[@ThriveChen]

了解你的对手

[@tommyluk2796]

跟本就是制度問題,誰選都一様

[@kaz-H]

和六代机有毛线关系啊！？

[@Gouken-zi9zd]

舊視頻，騙流量。

[@JGNZ616]

教授名字都没写出来

[@cyclemans]

为什么只有一半啊。。。。

[@abel6541]

我不知道..他們再說甚麼? =視頻上表達..能具體清楚點嗎?.. 一直繞..只會減少關注!

[@henrywei2833]

拜託! 這是哪一年的訪問啊!??

[@georgechang4163]

Maybe humiliation is very bad. But hypercracy is worse than that. Both of you stand on the same line.

[@KimbengLee]

AI机器人 AI人类發展

[@davidw1576]

totally misleading title !

[@cutelygirl4252]

当有人比自己利害时！心里一定是不平行的，因当惯老大！

[@如是或许]

正确的都是我们社会精英，错的都是川普

[@LaoMiao_ones]

这是那位讲公正的教授吗？他的课很有意思

[@mastereye3f631]

十三邀自己为什么不开个频道？

[@andrewhou2084]

未完待續? 可惜 : (

[@博文欧阳]

瞎搞议题，久了就不关注了

[@天舒79]

瞎搞，怎么就关联上他了

[@allendelon8887]

這老外也蠻胡說八道的

[@壹浪]

白左精英

[@chulau7570]

Hurt your heart !

[@t3261]

白鬼，綠鬼，獨鬼，

[@jzNottobee]

绕口令

[@pingli3212]

出問題不求解決只一味怪別人的美國，怎會有明天呢，各國各種的制度是最適合他們自己 的，而美人就是想強加於他國。世界中國的想法是最為中肯的因為我們有中庸這部偉大的書籍。

[@HanFeng_FM]

用马克思的（资本的本质）能解释现在的美国

[@微妙法]

太棒了，大陆加油。

[@MsBen2003]

哈佛不是美國極左派的大陣營嗎？ 前校長蓋依就是典型的代表人物

[@RyanWang-u1]

互联网世界里真的是人人平等，可以互相瞧不起，指指点点，说三道四，但是让你坐在那里你也讲不出几句话

[@liulaolao7269]

三人同行, 必有我師, 對不起, 這是東方智慧.

[@jasonliu1117]

中國五代機已是個笑話，竞還有六代機讓世人笑得更久😂😂😂

[@liulaolao7269]

徐了笑還可以怎樣? F35已在延期交貨. 阿, 對不起, 臺島是F16.

[@jasonliu1117]

@liulaolao7269 就是叫十代，还不是山寨老外的原始技术😂

[@liulaolao7269]

@@jasonliu1117 老外的原始技术? 例如到月背取月壤?

[@jasonliu1117]

@@liulaolao7269 別问！你接受不了事实😂

[@liulaolao7269]

@@jasonliu1117 月背取月壤是假的, 老美不要來求壤.

[@user-kongkongsha]

美式民主和中式专制都不是好制度，未来需要ai给我们设定更好的制度。

[@鄭清寧]

女媧補天 伏羲山河 秦漢中土 中华規則 宇宙定律 外星中國😂 佬毛偉大 秦皇重生😂

[@Shan-h7i]

这是公证 课堂的那位老师吗在？好熟悉啊

[@shanghome]

是

[@rueyching]

正義～一場思辯之旅

[@liulaolao7269]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXPHl5aIYp2be7s

[@imphap1791]

概念绕来套去，几乎没有什么实实在在的内容

[@liulaolao7269]

志在激發思考. 就像"性本善" 跟"性本惡", 沒有結論.

[@robot-124]

不可能3角

[@cobydate3845]

主持人老是装懂😅

[@chengan325]

六代戰機？就是ㄧ個笑話！

[@zhichaoli-m6t]

命运共同体才是主流，一家独大总会崩塌。生命周期理论不是很好的阐述过吗。

[@chikinhsieh1503]

whycan'thumans work together

[@summerlotus3966]

16, 17 yr old is still immature in every aspect, that is why we have legal age in most countries.

[@yingzhang7637]

Perhaps the time is coming when robotics even out the different ability/thoughts of human, meritocracy has no need!

[@liulaolao7269]

計算, may be, 算計, well....

[@秦晓伟-r8v]

嗯…嗯…嗯…嗯…嗯…嗯…

[@anddige4305]

满脑子都是意识形态的人的确是另外一个纬度，我完全听不懂他在说什么，这就是传说的散装语言吗？

[@ZeyingWang-h7x]

我觉得并不是很难懂啊 反对优绩主义 反对过度市场化 促进人与人的交流、互信，还可以延伸到缩小贫富差距

[@独自醉倒]

国进民退

[@李峰松-i1q]

那老外的废话挺多的

[@vinzw5609]

这位教授是谁？

[@Beachfreaker168]

michael sandel

[@georgeloh8257]

This professor's famous teching is " Justice What's the right thing to do " . I guess you can seach it via KZbin. You may feel enlightened after studying it.

[@liulaolao7269]

@@georgeloh8257 I think 孟子's thinking has more depth. 王！何必曰利？Kill one to save 5? 孟子would say: No way. 上下交征利而国危矣! Discussion would simply end there.

[@liulaolao7269]

@@georgeloh8257 孟子 : 上下交征利而国危矣, 亦有仁义而已矣.

[@RyanWang-u1]

不要对别人指指点点，你说几句。

[@최승철-p9j]

累，西方世界是谁忽悠了你？

[@liulaolao7269]

民主新衣.

[@yingzhang7637]

He is Harvard Professor on Ethics. Especially to Law students. I agreed to most of his teaching. But I do not agree his view on meritocracy. He taught Ethics at Harvard for years!

[@liulaolao7269]

To be exact, he teaches political philosophy. I agree with you that meritocracy is not as simple as he thought. Science tends to divide a country because everybody looks at his/her own interests. 上下交征利而国危矣. Ethics tend to unit people.君何必曰利, 亦有仁义而已矣. Meritocracy involves more ethic and strategic thinking and will in win in the long run. Election type of democracy concentrates on short term gains and is manipulated by capitalists. It is bound to fail in the long run.

[@yingzhang7637]

@@liulaolao7269 Thank you for pointing out his teaching at Harvard. I should be more accurate.

[@liulaolao7269]

@@yingzhang7637 I made the same mistake too. Just copied someone's comment. 😅

[@yingzhang7637]

@@liulaolao7269 Also, I applauded you on your further reasoning why his view of meritocracy should read with caution! Or to be rejected with caution!

[@sciab3674]

不太理解 这中主持人直接面对对方坐着 让我觉得很不适 动物的本性

[@jackiechang728]

有腦子會邏輯思考的都知道牆國什麼六代機跟本就是嘴砲而已，五代都弄不好了，還六代？

[@manliongzhu9570]

我對Y的忠告請你用心多讀幾遍，不帶有色眼鏡的來评判．或許你能更正確！

[@liulaolao7269]

"用心多讀幾遍"? 表達方出問題還是聽者理解能力不夠?

[@정국동-e7y]

误读？1

[@ru123zhao-hv6mc]

好莱坞会制造大量10代战机

[@reckp6037]

這節目打胡亂說了

[@chulau7570]

Because these well said hurt your heart !

[@yanli9872]

按他的说法社会主义大锅饭是最好的， 大家都一样。也就没有抱怨和怨恨了。扯。

[@barryp1319]

大锅饭可不是社会主义的产物，好好了解大锅饭现象是一个历史产物，它有其在不同的生产力条件下的有效现象！

[@yanli9872]

@ 我说大锅饭是社会主义的产物了吗？ 根本就是资本主义的后期所产生的社会问题。 这是美国制度所无法解决的问题。

[@qwer-gg1cx]

@@barryp1319 大锅饭不是社会主义的产物，但大锅饭是社会主义的根本特征，在社会主义条件下发扬到了极致、到了荒谬绝伦的地步。

[@thomas1243]

多读些书，多思考。 原始社会就是吃大锅饭。

[@yanli9872]

@@thomas1243 你见过？

[@liulaolao7269]

Michael Sandel "THE MORAL SIDE OF MURDER" kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXPHl5aIYp2be7s