I made mistake on directional movement on enhanced shot being lower damage 10:33, it was apparently included along in the dodge skill and i didnt increase the level. The multipliers should be the same so you can unload faster by pressing side move after 3 enhanced ether shots and it will be way faster than just standing still! (Thank you @malevolentmoose for pointing my mistake)
@AceKite004 ай бұрын
May you share the song at the end of the video? You’re outro.
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@AceKite00 i guess i can share it to community post. i will process it first
@AceKite004 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa That’d be nice. Looking forward to it.
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@AceKite00 you can check it on my newest post on community tab, its on pinned comment
@stereo4274 ай бұрын
shouldn't dodge talent be level up evenly with normal attack since the dmg multiplier are equal? Especially since it allows you to stick on the target to not get dmg drop off
@ReàIzam4 ай бұрын
Reason to choose zhu yuan: Number 1. I like billy Number 2. Guns
@justjuniorjaw4 ай бұрын
Your gameplay was the reason why I picked her over Ellen. Comfy hold attack. Less damage? Nah I'll HOLD
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
the benefit of just holding attack is that you can time your dodge movement so well which i like so much on playin solo challenge lol!
@Arlé-c4s4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa I have both Ellen and Zhu Yuan, but I gotta say I still get uncomfy with ZY sometimes. I play on mobile but connects my dualshock controller, but the hold mechanic of her kit is stressing me out cause I cannot dodge without unholding the attack button (I can use the left joystick but it's still different from that separate dodge button that will allow for more precise timing). Also, gotta say that I'm still having a hard time adjusting cause I got so used to my mono ice Ellen/Lycaon/Soukaku freezing the sht out of enemies that I don't even have to dodge. 😂 Ellen is still a bit more comfy because of how cracked the ice anomaly is, in addition to stunning enemies, they can't hit you if they're frozen lmao. Thanks to ZY, I think I need to remap my controller to change the dodge button to R1/L1 instead and use the direction keys for switching characters etc. 😭
@justjuniorjaw4 ай бұрын
@@Arlé-c4sJust get used to the idea that WASD is your new dodge during hold.
@guobauncertified4 ай бұрын
Me on fielding her just to use her cool directional attacks 🙏
@popostarYT4 ай бұрын
Yooo is this guoba uncertified? Heyyyy, big fan of your HSR and ZZZ content, helped me a lot while i was playing HSR and now ur helping me with ZZZ
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@guobauncertified love your videos guoba, you are an inspiration to me! 🙏🏻
@guobauncertified4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roayour vids are awesome and in depth :)
@guobauncertified4 ай бұрын
@@popostarYT🐻❤️
@vahallen98764 ай бұрын
You really deserve more subscribers, keep up the good work!
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
tysm!
@TheOneGPJ4 ай бұрын
My police woman can't be this cu- OH DUCK SHE HAS A SHOTGUN
@stewie_4 ай бұрын
Man, I needed that step by step guide. She's so fast that I don't even know if she did her 3rd or 4th attack.
@KetteiThe7th_4 ай бұрын
The goat himself has uploaded 🎉
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@KetteiThe7th_ i aint goat, i am just your friendly neighbourhood spiritus man
@malevolentmoose4 ай бұрын
10:30 Bro what, doesn't your Dash Attack deal less DMG than Basic Attack just because you haven't leveled it? The multipliers are exactly the same as far as I can see.
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
I think you might be right 🙏🏻 thank you for pointing it out
@DumaVadamee1094 ай бұрын
@malevolentmoose IWinToLose posted a video explaining why dodge at some points and directions does less damage
@malevolentmoose4 ай бұрын
@@DumaVadamee109 You mean his latest guide for Zhu Yuan? Sorry but I couldn't find anything relevant or just glossed over it, you'll have to direct me more precisely.
@DumaVadamee1094 ай бұрын
@@malevolentmoose he literally has charts explaining basic and shotty attacks, it's not that difficult to find in scrubbing the vid.
@malevolentmoose4 ай бұрын
@@DumaVadamee109 Man, make sure you got the context right, cause I ain't seeing no relevant charts. The closest thing are the combo lists, but they still have nothing to do with what I was pointing out, which is that as far as I can tell, as long as your Basic Attack and Dash Attack are at the same level, individual Enhanced Shotshells will always deal the same DMG. Note: I can clearly see that different Assault Mode attacks have different multipliers and that different combos output different DPS, but that's way beside the point.
@Charmlie.R4 ай бұрын
If you have the mindscape for Nicole that scales the orb duration with charge, you can use the special input as an extension to get some more time! I just used a stopwatch on my phone so it's give or take, I should really record a clip to properly time it eventually... But it seemed like tap skill was ~2.5s, charging was 3.5 ish, and you could get 4-5s by charging and then triggering the alternate to charge more Nicole can put out a surprising amount of ether by herself if you can hit something with both full charge ups and then a super buffed orb haha
@cyrene034 ай бұрын
Using her feels so satisfying!
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
she says "Hi" and then the enemies disintegrate
@rovinteyvat47064 ай бұрын
OH SHOOT I'M LATE TO THE PARTY 😢 Still nice work with this guide; need this as I got her as well!! 🎉
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@rovinteyvat4706 grats for getting her!
@indrawisasi4 ай бұрын
Thanks man, very useful 👍🏼
@yamatoex4 ай бұрын
I plan to use her with Grace and Rina
@ballistic25274 ай бұрын
this also posits the question; why would i utilize the in built dodge if manual dodge into dodge counter accomplishes the exact same thing?
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
I believe they will introduce an enemy with insane consecutive attacks that regular dodges won't be enough. The problem is still the same, she won't be used much on field then, it would be better if defense agent is on the field when such enemy will exist
@macisenpai4 ай бұрын
the mechanics of the dodge are not very clear to me and difficult to perform with mouse and keyboard. I have to try
@cibo〆4 ай бұрын
Combo tips are gems
@Sennnn4044 ай бұрын
Hey Roa, can you give me the name of the song at the end of the video plz its so good
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@Sennnn404 its Ellen's ost, you can check my newest post on pinned comment for the link. I processed the off vocal myself! (idk yet the song name)
@Sennnn4044 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa thanks man 🫡
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@Sennnn404 np 👌🏻
@theprogamerxd86214 ай бұрын
Anyways wanted Zhu and I won the 50/50 now my first team is Zhu, anby, Nicole and I finally got a copy of piper so gonna rock corin, piper, rina since I already have my rina levelled up
@An_dres_art4 ай бұрын
She still don’t convince e enough, I will wait for her rerun if she ends up being a must which I doubt, for now I’ll save the secure pity for Jane doe or qingyi
@AceKite004 ай бұрын
Where'd you find Ellen's off-vocal theme?
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@AceKite00 i processed it myself
@AceKite004 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa You did a great job on it.
@dragondevil694 ай бұрын
very informative in a digestible manner just missing those numbers for weapons and optimals but i think i can get those somewhere else eventually (like iwintolose or zajef ones)
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@dragondevil69 i wanted to do it but i dont have the rerouces to do it 🙏🏻
@dragondevil694 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa its okay like i said i hope to see it elsewhere keep doing what ya doing, i am lucky to find your channel
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@dragondevil69 i appreciate it!
@ДенисЛарин-л2ш4 ай бұрын
In the story we had seen qinyi pop up after zhu yuan attacks and to realize her full potential we would need her as well. Save up Zhu Yuan mains, save up!
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@ДенисЛарин-л2ш i believe her full potential will unlock as she gets dedicated teammate as well!
@Konpekikaminari4 ай бұрын
I got her + her W-engine with leftovers I feel legally obliged to save for her partner too
@rayraynathanielreyt11874 ай бұрын
@@Konpekikaminari same i got her and her sig weapon now i don't have much left for qingyi i think if i would not have enough for qingyi then i might give some cash to hoyo🤧
@atlasdgen4 ай бұрын
Got it... 6th slot is always anomaly mastery
@asoret4 ай бұрын
what, it says attack, what do you mean
@see07074 ай бұрын
How did you yet Qing yi to appear around 1:10?
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@see0707 it was from main story commission
@see07074 ай бұрын
Ohhh that's so cool
@KrayZee334 ай бұрын
Don't you have to take a lot more attention when and who will proc Disorder when you go for that route (because the previous effect gets removed, right?)? You need the corruption effect ready/rolling if you want to gain the additional critdmg% from the set effect, which is quite a lot. And I've heard about and seen calculations that Starlight Engine 4* (r5) is almost as good as her signature one (r1). if you are F2P you won't bother with a 5% increase from the weapon. You are probably better off spending on mindscapes instead if you want to increase her damage.
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
cmiiw, doesnt chaotic metal 4pcs set 20% crit damage is unconditional? only the buff on corruption damage that require the anomaly to be active. also her engine calculation might be on par but the utility makes the slight higher damage becomes way more. gaining 8 stack right away from performing ex special attack is huge
@KrayZee334 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa The coruption damage is exactly what I'm getting at. If you Disorder in the wrong sequence, the corruption debuff that you painfully got to work in the first place, is gone and you'll only have Zhu Yuan to re-trigger it. So she loses out on 33% critdmg. It's at least worth pointing out. Nicole seems to be so much better than Rina in this team. Not only because of that, but also because she adds +Ether% and has better DEF Shred for the burst. Overall you have much better uptime with Nicole + Zhu Yuan on that Corruption buff in general. As for the W.Engine calc. That's all taken into account. In terms of utility, M1 seems much better, especially since the quick reload effect 6+9 can stack with each other. Starlight Engine is just that good. The quick assist is realiably proc-able, especially when it matters (burst) and the proc is just great. It's not BiS, but it should be pointed out how close they are because that's not "normal" in these kind of games, so if there is a place to save on pulls (for F2P for example), it's on her weapon for sure. edit: btw, I'm just adding a perspective, I'm not saying I'm 100% correct.
@thetruestar63484 ай бұрын
Well that’s obvious we need to wait for the rest of her teammates
@9yearold4714 ай бұрын
please correct me if im wrong but in 11:40, shouldnt anby be the one stunning the boss so there would be an increased dmg multiplier during its stunned state?
@miguelcardenasj65474 ай бұрын
I'll correct you, no, it should not
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
only lycaon can increase the stun multiplier rn. anby doesn't have such skill
@ucNguyen-ez1xv4 ай бұрын
I want to pull her but I have too many dps , Ellen , Neko , S11 ... I don't want to build another dps even though I got guaranteed from Ellen banner and over 100 pulls. Waiting for 1.1 is killing me.
@georgew83884 ай бұрын
At least they're all different elements, I'm gonna experiment with daze/anomaly gear on attackers so I can run the together
@ucNguyen-ez1xv4 ай бұрын
@@georgew8388 yeah , i try building different team too. I also have Koleda and her Sig so qingyi is another skip. I think by the time Jane Doe , I gonna have 200+ pulls...
@hotdog59274 ай бұрын
is she better with anby over koleda or is it just because anby is free
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
main reason is that the only stun agent fit with Nicole which is zhu yuan current support, is anby. but in term of stun capabilities alone, anby ofc is still lower than the S-rank, you can use Koleda, or even Lycaon to increase the stun multiplier and they only lacking the additional ability. as for myself, i just.. dont have other stun agent lol
@Ihateronnie2k4 ай бұрын
I need an attack dps for my second team I literally have everything else
@dheeraj_one4 ай бұрын
Maraming Salamat.
@kenchen13514 ай бұрын
9:09 there is no pen% sub stat (only flat pen)
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@kenchen1351 thank you for for reminging me
@choariwap70724 ай бұрын
Shouldnt the chain sequence be Zhu yuan into nicole then skip anby (wait for the qte to end) This way you save the stun duration as it wont be consumed and do more damage (assuming enough energy and shotshells to use the window) I think you only do the full sequence if you need the assist points.
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
stun duration only start to decrease after last chain attack qte triggered/cancelled. you can check my previous video where i tested how the stun duration work. here i do anby at 2nd CA, it doesnt reduce stun duration
@CaCtuSnyan4 ай бұрын
I don't understand the logic. DPS units in ZZZ are looking to always be paired with a stun unit for that nice DPS window. So how is having higher dmg during stun a downside?
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@CaCtuSnyan that is not the downside i was saying. her most unique feature is having movements that also considered dodge action, but her damage is heavily focused on stunned enemies. thus you want to put enemy on stun faster using stun agent so zhu yuan can deal massive damage faster too, which means zhu yuan will have less time on fields and makes this movements feature pretty much wasted for not being able to use much. i didnt say her damage on stun is a downside at all
@Joo003934 ай бұрын
That means I can get next broken stun character that can deal huge daze while also buff dmg taken 😂
@Joo003934 ай бұрын
It's still early, we don't have any limited support or stun character yet
@nickn54194 ай бұрын
BOOOOOOOTTTTYYYY
@yamas1o14 ай бұрын
How's your luck in the pools today?
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@yamas1o1 50pulls in for both her and her wengine, im winning 😎
@yamas1o14 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa wow its super luccky, u almost king today😅 i take it with 110 pulls, but use another 70 pulls to take c6 nicole and grace, so im happy:D
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@yamas1o1 its still a W for getting grace! thats more team option for you since grace value will rise over time
@Rahul-83414 ай бұрын
Did a 10 pull got her😅 Did another 10 pull in weapon banner got brimstone 😮 I couldn't ask for more👌
@yamas1o14 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa grace ideal for me, becoase now i have corin(c4)+Rina+Grace and Anby+Nicole+Zhu and guaranteed pull for 1.1 banner:D
@myrica4 ай бұрын
Nice info, I didn't know both Midyuan's 4th and 5th can actually give 2 stack
@JayceRustia4 ай бұрын
ROA you never changed since CBT vids, you still like to do hold basic attack playstyle
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
@@JayceRustia Lol its pretty annoying when the normal combos got cancelled when i need to dodge an attack. its for the convenient 😂
@isidroduarte89424 ай бұрын
Pulled for her and got her and Rina in 40. Jane Doe is guaranteed for me. I like her design.
@Joo003934 ай бұрын
Sorry but Nicole is better for zhuyuan, as def shred + ether dmg taken boost is already betten than pen alone
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
yes right now that team is the best for ZY, Rina is an alternative but can work really well too
@SempaiXDX4 ай бұрын
VI disk is my bane
@shroudedinshout4 ай бұрын
dude are you inondesian by any chance
@ilis_roa4 ай бұрын
I am
@shroudedinshout4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa that's cool
@catcatto38864 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this! It’s solidified my plan to skip her
@yamas1o14 ай бұрын
First one
@dale64504 ай бұрын
why mobile graphic is so shit even it's all max and still feel like playing in 144p graphic? story cutscene is a little ok like 360p😂😂
@kelogz0074 ай бұрын
Lmao @ where her real value lies ! Haha
@Alet0o4 ай бұрын
Nah they actually just made such a mobile ranged dps and then locked her dmg behind having the enemy stunned... I know it cant be helped since thats how the game works, but at least a smaller buff to her dmg against non-stunned enemies would have made her much more fun 🥹
@moosdeboer64694 ай бұрын
Idk if u can read but she gets a 20% dmg bonus using her enhanced shots. Additional 20% is against stunned enemies
@Alet0o4 ай бұрын
@@moosdeboer6469 hi! Thanks for your concern, but Im in fact able to read! I know her enhanced shorts still get a dmg% buff, but its still half of what shes getting when enemies are stunned so her ottimal playstyle will be a burst dps against stunned enemies.