Zhu Yuan 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗲 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲 might 𝗻𝗼𝘁 be what you think of - Zhu Yuan FULL GUIDE

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@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
I made mistake on directional movement on enhanced shot being lower damage 10:33, it was apparently included along in the dodge skill and i didnt increase the level. The multipliers should be the same so you can unload faster by pressing side move after 3 enhanced ether shots and it will be way faster than just standing still! (Thank you @malevolentmoose for pointing my mistake)
@AceKite00
@AceKite00 4 ай бұрын
May you share the song at the end of the video? You’re outro.
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@AceKite00 i guess i can share it to community post. i will process it first
@AceKite00
@AceKite00 4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa That’d be nice. Looking forward to it.
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@AceKite00 you can check it on my newest post on community tab, its on pinned comment
@stereo427
@stereo427 4 ай бұрын
shouldn't dodge talent be level up evenly with normal attack since the dmg multiplier are equal? Especially since it allows you to stick on the target to not get dmg drop off
@ReàIzam
@ReàIzam 4 ай бұрын
Reason to choose zhu yuan: Number 1. I like billy Number 2. Guns
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw 4 ай бұрын
Your gameplay was the reason why I picked her over Ellen. Comfy hold attack. Less damage? Nah I'll HOLD
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
the benefit of just holding attack is that you can time your dodge movement so well which i like so much on playin solo challenge lol!
@Arlé-c4s
@Arlé-c4s 4 ай бұрын
​@@ilis_roa I have both Ellen and Zhu Yuan, but I gotta say I still get uncomfy with ZY sometimes. I play on mobile but connects my dualshock controller, but the hold mechanic of her kit is stressing me out cause I cannot dodge without unholding the attack button (I can use the left joystick but it's still different from that separate dodge button that will allow for more precise timing). Also, gotta say that I'm still having a hard time adjusting cause I got so used to my mono ice Ellen/Lycaon/Soukaku freezing the sht out of enemies that I don't even have to dodge. 😂 Ellen is still a bit more comfy because of how cracked the ice anomaly is, in addition to stunning enemies, they can't hit you if they're frozen lmao. Thanks to ZY, I think I need to remap my controller to change the dodge button to R1/L1 instead and use the direction keys for switching characters etc. 😭
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw 4 ай бұрын
​@@Arlé-c4sJust get used to the idea that WASD is your new dodge during hold.
@guobauncertified
@guobauncertified 4 ай бұрын
Me on fielding her just to use her cool directional attacks 🙏
@popostarYT
@popostarYT 4 ай бұрын
Yooo is this guoba uncertified? Heyyyy, big fan of your HSR and ZZZ content, helped me a lot while i was playing HSR and now ur helping me with ZZZ
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@guobauncertified love your videos guoba, you are an inspiration to me! 🙏🏻
@guobauncertified
@guobauncertified 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@ilis_roayour vids are awesome and in depth :)
@guobauncertified
@guobauncertified 4 ай бұрын
@@popostarYT🐻❤️
@vahallen9876
@vahallen9876 4 ай бұрын
You really deserve more subscribers, keep up the good work!
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
tysm!
@TheOneGPJ
@TheOneGPJ 4 ай бұрын
My police woman can't be this cu- OH DUCK SHE HAS A SHOTGUN
@stewie_
@stewie_ 4 ай бұрын
Man, I needed that step by step guide. She's so fast that I don't even know if she did her 3rd or 4th attack.
@KetteiThe7th_
@KetteiThe7th_ 4 ай бұрын
The goat himself has uploaded 🎉
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@KetteiThe7th_ i aint goat, i am just your friendly neighbourhood spiritus man
@malevolentmoose
@malevolentmoose 4 ай бұрын
10:30 Bro what, doesn't your Dash Attack deal less DMG than Basic Attack just because you haven't leveled it? The multipliers are exactly the same as far as I can see.
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
I think you might be right 🙏🏻 thank you for pointing it out
@DumaVadamee109
@DumaVadamee109 4 ай бұрын
@malevolentmoose IWinToLose posted a video explaining why dodge at some points and directions does less damage
@malevolentmoose
@malevolentmoose 4 ай бұрын
@@DumaVadamee109 You mean his latest guide for Zhu Yuan? Sorry but I couldn't find anything relevant or just glossed over it, you'll have to direct me more precisely.
@DumaVadamee109
@DumaVadamee109 4 ай бұрын
@@malevolentmoose he literally has charts explaining basic and shotty attacks, it's not that difficult to find in scrubbing the vid.
@malevolentmoose
@malevolentmoose 4 ай бұрын
@@DumaVadamee109 Man, make sure you got the context right, cause I ain't seeing no relevant charts. The closest thing are the combo lists, but they still have nothing to do with what I was pointing out, which is that as far as I can tell, as long as your Basic Attack and Dash Attack are at the same level, individual Enhanced Shotshells will always deal the same DMG. Note: I can clearly see that different Assault Mode attacks have different multipliers and that different combos output different DPS, but that's way beside the point.
@Charmlie.R
@Charmlie.R 4 ай бұрын
If you have the mindscape for Nicole that scales the orb duration with charge, you can use the special input as an extension to get some more time! I just used a stopwatch on my phone so it's give or take, I should really record a clip to properly time it eventually... But it seemed like tap skill was ~2.5s, charging was 3.5 ish, and you could get 4-5s by charging and then triggering the alternate to charge more Nicole can put out a surprising amount of ether by herself if you can hit something with both full charge ups and then a super buffed orb haha
@cyrene03
@cyrene03 4 ай бұрын
Using her feels so satisfying!
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
she says "Hi" and then the enemies disintegrate
@rovinteyvat4706
@rovinteyvat4706 4 ай бұрын
OH SHOOT I'M LATE TO THE PARTY 😢 Still nice work with this guide; need this as I got her as well!! 🎉
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@rovinteyvat4706 grats for getting her!
@indrawisasi
@indrawisasi 4 ай бұрын
Thanks man, very useful 👍🏼
@yamatoex
@yamatoex 4 ай бұрын
I plan to use her with Grace and Rina
@ballistic2527
@ballistic2527 4 ай бұрын
this also posits the question; why would i utilize the in built dodge if manual dodge into dodge counter accomplishes the exact same thing?
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
I believe they will introduce an enemy with insane consecutive attacks that regular dodges won't be enough. The problem is still the same, she won't be used much on field then, it would be better if defense agent is on the field when such enemy will exist
@macisenpai
@macisenpai 4 ай бұрын
the mechanics of the dodge are not very clear to me and difficult to perform with mouse and keyboard. I have to try
@cibo〆
@cibo〆 4 ай бұрын
Combo tips are gems
@Sennnn404
@Sennnn404 4 ай бұрын
Hey Roa, can you give me the name of the song at the end of the video plz its so good
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@Sennnn404 its Ellen's ost, you can check my newest post on pinned comment for the link. I processed the off vocal myself! (idk yet the song name)
@Sennnn404
@Sennnn404 4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa thanks man 🫡
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@Sennnn404 np 👌🏻
@theprogamerxd8621
@theprogamerxd8621 4 ай бұрын
Anyways wanted Zhu and I won the 50/50 now my first team is Zhu, anby, Nicole and I finally got a copy of piper so gonna rock corin, piper, rina since I already have my rina levelled up
@An_dres_art
@An_dres_art 4 ай бұрын
She still don’t convince e enough, I will wait for her rerun if she ends up being a must which I doubt, for now I’ll save the secure pity for Jane doe or qingyi
@AceKite00
@AceKite00 4 ай бұрын
Where'd you find Ellen's off-vocal theme?
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@AceKite00 i processed it myself
@AceKite00
@AceKite00 4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa You did a great job on it.
@dragondevil69
@dragondevil69 4 ай бұрын
very informative in a digestible manner just missing those numbers for weapons and optimals but i think i can get those somewhere else eventually (like iwintolose or zajef ones)
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@dragondevil69 i wanted to do it but i dont have the rerouces to do it 🙏🏻
@dragondevil69
@dragondevil69 4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa its okay like i said i hope to see it elsewhere keep doing what ya doing, i am lucky to find your channel
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@dragondevil69 i appreciate it!
@ДенисЛарин-л2ш
@ДенисЛарин-л2ш 4 ай бұрын
In the story we had seen qinyi pop up after zhu yuan attacks and to realize her full potential we would need her as well. Save up Zhu Yuan mains, save up!
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@ДенисЛарин-л2ш i believe her full potential will unlock as she gets dedicated teammate as well!
@Konpekikaminari
@Konpekikaminari 4 ай бұрын
I got her + her W-engine with leftovers I feel legally obliged to save for her partner too
@rayraynathanielreyt1187
@rayraynathanielreyt1187 4 ай бұрын
​@@Konpekikaminari same i got her and her sig weapon now i don't have much left for qingyi i think if i would not have enough for qingyi then i might give some cash to hoyo🤧
@atlasdgen
@atlasdgen 4 ай бұрын
Got it... 6th slot is always anomaly mastery
@asoret
@asoret 4 ай бұрын
what, it says attack, what do you mean
@see0707
@see0707 4 ай бұрын
How did you yet Qing yi to appear around 1:10?
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@see0707 it was from main story commission
@see0707
@see0707 4 ай бұрын
Ohhh that's so cool
@KrayZee33
@KrayZee33 4 ай бұрын
Don't you have to take a lot more attention when and who will proc Disorder when you go for that route (because the previous effect gets removed, right?)? You need the corruption effect ready/rolling if you want to gain the additional critdmg% from the set effect, which is quite a lot. And I've heard about and seen calculations that Starlight Engine 4* (r5) is almost as good as her signature one (r1). if you are F2P you won't bother with a 5% increase from the weapon. You are probably better off spending on mindscapes instead if you want to increase her damage.
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
cmiiw, doesnt chaotic metal 4pcs set 20% crit damage is unconditional? only the buff on corruption damage that require the anomaly to be active. also her engine calculation might be on par but the utility makes the slight higher damage becomes way more. gaining 8 stack right away from performing ex special attack is huge
@KrayZee33
@KrayZee33 4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa The coruption damage is exactly what I'm getting at. If you Disorder in the wrong sequence, the corruption debuff that you painfully got to work in the first place, is gone and you'll only have Zhu Yuan to re-trigger it. So she loses out on 33% critdmg. It's at least worth pointing out. Nicole seems to be so much better than Rina in this team. Not only because of that, but also because she adds +Ether% and has better DEF Shred for the burst. Overall you have much better uptime with Nicole + Zhu Yuan on that Corruption buff in general. As for the W.Engine calc. That's all taken into account. In terms of utility, M1 seems much better, especially since the quick reload effect 6+9 can stack with each other. Starlight Engine is just that good. The quick assist is realiably proc-able, especially when it matters (burst) and the proc is just great. It's not BiS, but it should be pointed out how close they are because that's not "normal" in these kind of games, so if there is a place to save on pulls (for F2P for example), it's on her weapon for sure. edit: btw, I'm just adding a perspective, I'm not saying I'm 100% correct.
@thetruestar6348
@thetruestar6348 4 ай бұрын
Well that’s obvious we need to wait for the rest of her teammates
@9yearold471
@9yearold471 4 ай бұрын
please correct me if im wrong but in 11:40, shouldnt anby be the one stunning the boss so there would be an increased dmg multiplier during its stunned state?
@miguelcardenasj6547
@miguelcardenasj6547 4 ай бұрын
I'll correct you, no, it should not
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
only lycaon can increase the stun multiplier rn. anby doesn't have such skill
@ucNguyen-ez1xv
@ucNguyen-ez1xv 4 ай бұрын
I want to pull her but I have too many dps , Ellen , Neko , S11 ... I don't want to build another dps even though I got guaranteed from Ellen banner and over 100 pulls. Waiting for 1.1 is killing me.
@georgew8388
@georgew8388 4 ай бұрын
At least they're all different elements, I'm gonna experiment with daze/anomaly gear on attackers so I can run the together
@ucNguyen-ez1xv
@ucNguyen-ez1xv 4 ай бұрын
@@georgew8388 yeah , i try building different team too. I also have Koleda and her Sig so qingyi is another skip. I think by the time Jane Doe , I gonna have 200+ pulls...
@hotdog5927
@hotdog5927 4 ай бұрын
is she better with anby over koleda or is it just because anby is free
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
main reason is that the only stun agent fit with Nicole which is zhu yuan current support, is anby. but in term of stun capabilities alone, anby ofc is still lower than the S-rank, you can use Koleda, or even Lycaon to increase the stun multiplier and they only lacking the additional ability. as for myself, i just.. dont have other stun agent lol
@Ihateronnie2k
@Ihateronnie2k 4 ай бұрын
I need an attack dps for my second team I literally have everything else
@dheeraj_one
@dheeraj_one 4 ай бұрын
Maraming Salamat.
@kenchen1351
@kenchen1351 4 ай бұрын
9:09 there is no pen% sub stat (only flat pen)
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@kenchen1351 thank you for for reminging me
@choariwap7072
@choariwap7072 4 ай бұрын
Shouldnt the chain sequence be Zhu yuan into nicole then skip anby (wait for the qte to end) This way you save the stun duration as it wont be consumed and do more damage (assuming enough energy and shotshells to use the window) I think you only do the full sequence if you need the assist points.
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
stun duration only start to decrease after last chain attack qte triggered/cancelled. you can check my previous video where i tested how the stun duration work. here i do anby at 2nd CA, it doesnt reduce stun duration
@CaCtuSnyan
@CaCtuSnyan 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand the logic. DPS units in ZZZ are looking to always be paired with a stun unit for that nice DPS window. So how is having higher dmg during stun a downside?
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@CaCtuSnyan that is not the downside i was saying. her most unique feature is having movements that also considered dodge action, but her damage is heavily focused on stunned enemies. thus you want to put enemy on stun faster using stun agent so zhu yuan can deal massive damage faster too, which means zhu yuan will have less time on fields and makes this movements feature pretty much wasted for not being able to use much. i didnt say her damage on stun is a downside at all
@Joo00393
@Joo00393 4 ай бұрын
That means I can get next broken stun character that can deal huge daze while also buff dmg taken 😂
@Joo00393
@Joo00393 4 ай бұрын
It's still early, we don't have any limited support or stun character yet
@nickn5419
@nickn5419 4 ай бұрын
BOOOOOOOTTTTYYYY
@yamas1o1
@yamas1o1 4 ай бұрын
How's your luck in the pools today?
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@yamas1o1 50pulls in for both her and her wengine, im winning 😎
@yamas1o1
@yamas1o1 4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa wow its super luccky, u almost king today😅 i take it with 110 pulls, but use another 70 pulls to take c6 nicole and grace, so im happy:D
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@yamas1o1 its still a W for getting grace! thats more team option for you since grace value will rise over time
@Rahul-8341
@Rahul-8341 4 ай бұрын
Did a 10 pull got her😅 Did another 10 pull in weapon banner got brimstone 😮 I couldn't ask for more👌
@yamas1o1
@yamas1o1 4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa grace ideal for me, becoase now i have corin(c4)+Rina+Grace and Anby+Nicole+Zhu and guaranteed pull for 1.1 banner:D
@myrica
@myrica 4 ай бұрын
Nice info, I didn't know both Midyuan's 4th and 5th can actually give 2 stack
@JayceRustia
@JayceRustia 4 ай бұрын
ROA you never changed since CBT vids, you still like to do hold basic attack playstyle
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
@@JayceRustia Lol its pretty annoying when the normal combos got cancelled when i need to dodge an attack. its for the convenient 😂
@isidroduarte8942
@isidroduarte8942 4 ай бұрын
Pulled for her and got her and Rina in 40. Jane Doe is guaranteed for me. I like her design.
@Joo00393
@Joo00393 4 ай бұрын
Sorry but Nicole is better for zhuyuan, as def shred + ether dmg taken boost is already betten than pen alone
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
yes right now that team is the best for ZY, Rina is an alternative but can work really well too
@SempaiXDX
@SempaiXDX 4 ай бұрын
VI disk is my bane
@shroudedinshout
@shroudedinshout 4 ай бұрын
dude are you inondesian by any chance
@ilis_roa
@ilis_roa 4 ай бұрын
I am
@shroudedinshout
@shroudedinshout 4 ай бұрын
@@ilis_roa that's cool
@catcatto3886
@catcatto3886 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this! It’s solidified my plan to skip her
@yamas1o1
@yamas1o1 4 ай бұрын
First one
@dale6450
@dale6450 4 ай бұрын
why mobile graphic is so shit even it's all max and still feel like playing in 144p graphic? story cutscene is a little ok like 360p😂😂
@kelogz007
@kelogz007 4 ай бұрын
Lmao @ where her real value lies ! Haha
@Alet0o
@Alet0o 4 ай бұрын
Nah they actually just made such a mobile ranged dps and then locked her dmg behind having the enemy stunned... I know it cant be helped since thats how the game works, but at least a smaller buff to her dmg against non-stunned enemies would have made her much more fun 🥹
@moosdeboer6469
@moosdeboer6469 4 ай бұрын
Idk if u can read but she gets a 20% dmg bonus using her enhanced shots. Additional 20% is against stunned enemies
@Alet0o
@Alet0o 4 ай бұрын
@@moosdeboer6469 hi! Thanks for your concern, but Im in fact able to read! I know her enhanced shorts still get a dmg% buff, but its still half of what shes getting when enemies are stunned so her ottimal playstyle will be a burst dps against stunned enemies.
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