Duelling Jake Lyons UNTIL I WIN on Moving

In this video, I'm joined by ‪@jakelyonsgeo‬, and we will be playing moving duels until I managed to take one against him. We did the same, but reversed on NMPZ on Jake's channel so check that out below. Also, sub to ‪@geoguessr_explained‬, because we'll be posing the Skill Swap series there from now on!
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[@NoxNitro10]

I like this moving, I think that moving games should all include a minumum 30s before able to plonk. Makes it more distinct and forces to move and scan instead of playing NM and insta-plonk

[@Pucyn619]

> I want to play to practice my moving skills >Nah, I think I am going to start insta sending

[@TheMagician12]

Jake: moving around at super speed trying to find clues and trying to pin point the exact location Zigzag: hmm I need to find a pole

[@CapnJack1]

I really like the cuts to Jake's perspective. Love the video!

[@music-zv6je]

> "playing moving duel against Jake until I win" > opens video > hour long

[@PhatInAHat]

In the Germany round at 21:20 it says the city name 'Rosenheim' on the glass of the bus stop which you looked at. The red 'Bierfest' poster on your screen which you completely ignored also had the Bavarian blue and white check pattern on its logo, which would have gotten you the correct state. You complained in that round that "I couldn't get to any info bro" - but all the info was there and you just didn't look enough at it. In general your main flaw on Moving seems to be that you're so used to scanning for the metas, reading the vegetation and checking for the vibes that give you the answers on tricky rural NMPZ rounds (and tricky rural Moving rounds), that on more urban Moving rounds you ignore too much of the text on posters/shop signs/side of vans/bus stops/road signs etc. which can actually tell you EXACTLY where the location is without having to use any metas or get a read on the vegetation etc. You should be trying to read basically every poster/shop sign/van/public transport etc. that's there as they so often have the address. I think you need to find a flick in your mindset that whenever you land on more urban (or motorway) Moving rounds you switch from the mode of being mostly interested in all the NMPZ meta and vegetation recognition, to quickly trying to scan as many signs and read as much text and logos as you can find; and on Motorways don't ignore the possibility for road signs nearby. Of course use all the meta/vegetation/geography stuff to support your guess as well, and quick guessing based on the NMPZ metas on Moving rounds can be a very good tactic on more rural rounds as Shinji showed in the World Cup, but Jake seems to manage to beat you more often here mainly because he just finds and reads the signs quicker and then 5ks (which in some ways is less difficult than the recognition skills you use to win on NMPZ). In the World Cup you can't just hope for always getting rural Moving rounds in the Multis which you can quickly guess on and the opponent can't 5k. I know your internet connection doesn't help, but maybe just practise Moving rounds whereby you scan to find clues to the place name quickly on signs, but without giving yourself a set time limit so there's not as much pressure on your laggy internet and figure out how long it would take you in a tournament with better internet. Also, my gut instinct from watching these games is that insta-sending on more urban Moving rounds will still typically result in you losing those rounds, as the chance of finding signage in the extra 15 seconds the opponent has seems too high. But it might be useful to calculate exactly how many seconds it on typically takes the top players to find the signage to 5k on urban Moving rounds, so you can calculate exactly how beneficial or not it is for you to insta-guess and how many seconds you can take before sending.

[@bobapplebob9695]

19:10 There's a couple famous Salems in the US, one in Oregon (the capital), and one in Massachusetts (where the witch trials happened), that's probably what you're thinking of.

[@grubnlicht]

The rwandan vulcanos are a pretty nice hint for the northwestern Ruhengeri region + lightbrown soil By the way, its hilarious how you get bored by the 30sec rule xD

[@jakelyonsgeo]

Thanks for having me on brother 🫡 this series should be a blast!

[@Gameboygenius]

Do both of you have any plans to upload the other side of the game, ie that mode that either one of you were good at?

[@calvin_geo]

Loving the hard work and collaboration Jake, thank you for all the content you create on you channel and others

[@zi8gzag]

let’s get it jake

[@Onesert]

Challenge for mod makers - a zi8gzag mode. Every screen you load, you have 1-3 seconds of delay before you see literally anything. Just so we can see extremely good moving players like Jake malding a bit :). Then we can really understand the insane disadvantage it is playing from a place like Aus.

[@stormsandsaints]

this series is gonna be sooo good! i was rooting for jake in the americas finals so i’m happy to see him here on the channel!

[@DuckOfRubber]

“This reminds me of this region over here in Greece” *zooms in to India* 😂

[@JohnAndJohner]

I'm less than 2 minutes in and he goes "This reminds me of this region of Greece" and zooms India. Classic ZigZag moment.

[@geoDaddy.]

The NM guy and the NMPZ guy helping each other out what a beautiful thing

[@DJSneh]

About the 3 second guesses not counting the Aussie struggle is real lol. I contacted support about that recently I hope they fix it (probably not) you should throw your weight behind that Oscar.. it's not fair that lag time loses so many games for me :(

[@JohnAndJohner]

1 Hour of watching ZigZag's brain get fried by moving

[@Canadagraphs]

Great video. I knew by the video length it was going to take a few games. But no shame in losing to Jake in moving. Its like deciding to take up soccer, and deciding to do a 1v1 vs Messi or Ronaldo as a starting point. Cant wait to see more of it. Also loved the spliced in moments from Jakes perspective.

[@vshakezz307]

bro i watch your videos every time i'm on the treadmill... you want to kill me 💀💀

[@DoYouLikeToastToo]

I see now that you are a professional you've purchased the obligatory streamer lights.

[@swift8821]

The mental part of “sports” is often just as important of a skill to train as the game itself. Keeping calm and focused even when put off is tough but necessary to compete effectively. (Lots of words to say tilt is bad)

[@AnthonyRochester]

This collab with Jake is a really great idea, very good geoguessr content

[@arrowheaded]

aussie's geographical location is tuff 😓

[@sayansingha6370]

16:45 that was hilarious, literally opposite of what Jake would say!

[@CollectorsTree-ge6zy]

Jake's homework: memorize all Indonesia kabupaten

[@NuTTyJUSTIN]

jake is actually cracked wtf lol

[@NoMadoxFilms]

SINCE WHEN WAS ZIGZAG A GOTHMONEYRECORDS ENJOYERRRRR WTF I LOVE U EVEN MORE NOW

[@zi8gzag]

for like 6 years

[@NoMadoxFilms]

@@zi8gzag omg u are truly my goat want to listen to new kray album w me?

[@eljestLiv]

I’m a Silver 3 moving player and I noticed Bruxelles on that sign at 3:12 haha, I’m surprised you didn’t

[@Alex-tz9lg]

While the duel ranking is messed up for high ranks, you could do moving duels on your smurf account to practice. Then we get duel content too

[@kirstin7806]

why has no one tried to dig up australia and move it closer to the geoguessr servers?

[@blakewessinger3532]

for the Alaska / BC one you had at 17:30, "Fair Harbour" spelled like that is always going to be Canada. We spell it "Harbor" in the US

[@thisismanatee]

It's so weird to see you move lol. Feels like something isn't right.

[@liamjp99]

13:49 if it makes you feel any better I’m a Canandian and never even heard of Churchill 😂

[@asarsalari]

These are great content. Also props on the massive set improvement Oscar 👌

[@GS-wo9]

omg, love the series idea where you teach each other

[@pinkdragon4830]

2:51 10:15 13:45 23:50 Oscar slowly going insane

[@sayansingha6370]

It's so unfortunate when that happens, specially when you had a decent guess and plonked in time but doesn't register for some reason

[@gabsol7397]

There literally was written "Bruxelles" on the thing you were looking at on the Brussels round 😅

[@BirdPie17]

13:18 this blurred out car with the antenna on the front right in snow coverage is always going to be Churchill, Manitoba

[@BirdPie17]

Great video as always zi8gzag. Can't wait for the series.

[@dasvidanjatv]

have u ever tried using a vpn for routing? it might just be that the servers have bad routing for you sometimes going to the wrong server, a vpn could fix it

[@FigsyGames]

Great Video guys! I was hopeing Jake was gonna say learn PH Proviences! so important to know

[@MarkDavidIrwin]

Very much looking forward to this series!

[@Markus17456]

Will Graf be back on the channel?

[@zi8gzag]

yeah

[@contrasbeatshop]

new setup looks mint

[@xWillx-]

Is using a VPN against Geoguessr's ToS? If not, maybe that could help with the lagging/black screen issues?

[@matyourin]

try to find out what "traceroute" is and use it to determine which ISP in australia has a good connection to the geoguessr servers. that might help.

[@mousumimishra4741]

Will we ever get full jake pov? Always a joy to see him play moving

[@toketillubroke]

50 mins into the video before I realised you were saying multi's. Whole time thinking why's he going on about the Maldives

[@JHX1]

Very interesting to see the very different approach and still get the same result..

[@martinclerked-6262]

Great video i liked this alot. Plan to watch his next

[@Fett411]

Seems like the Aussie internet will be a huge obstacle to practicing moving to get to such a high standard

[@GS-wo9]

I'd recommend developing the habit of pressing the space bar when making a guess. Then there's basically zero chance of your guess not registering

[@ThomasLiljeruhm]

Nice to see you practicing Moving.

[@stine7144]

about the homework: as you say, you're "prrobably not gonna move around anyways, and never use it" or something like that. If you actually put in the work for the districts/kabu-whatevers, you need to keep refreshing it by actually moving and reading signs in moving games, or else what you learn the next week or two is LONG gone before the worlds. It only sticks after repeat-repeat-repeat usage over months imo

[@braydenbardan8863]

19:02 I think your thinking about Salem Mass or Salem Oregon.

[@lancehan7631]

19:15 re Salem - lots of salems in America and also a famous one more Americans might know is Salem Massachusetts (I’d wiki it)

[@cooperpage2190]

Salem is an incredibly popular town name in the US there's one in every state

[@PoprishErik]

zi8zag, lets move to Europe! :D Stockholm welcomes you! See you at the World Cup!

[@pinkdragon4830]

10:46 WAHT WAS THAT FOR IM DYING

[@sanjabljat7490]

The yellow cursor is kinda buggin me out haha

[@GS-wo9]

that's why I think moving world cup and no moving should be separate

[@zi8gzag]

I agree

[@GS-wo9]

@@zi8gzag but I guess it also forces both parties to improve their weak parts which might be good

[@arekzawistowski2609]

Moving and NMPZ should be 2 main game modes on WC and NM should be a tie breaker

[@ander4163]

Nmpz is a great tiebreaker because of how random it can sometimes be, imo​@@arekzawistowski2609

[@sayanama]

Nah, Moving and No Moving are two skills of the same game, they can't be separate. Like attacking or defending or, playing yorker or bouncer.

[@lamar_noil]

17:05 I have a feeling the spelling of "harbour" should tell you you're probably not in the US

[@aditsu]

What's so hard about moving jewels? You can just move them with your hand 😂

[@vallekoen9426]

Salem is prob from the Salem witch trials

[@supergaming7793]

Nice video 🎉

[@FED.TK02]

10:16 shock8zag

[@eross5420]

Blud makes better guesses on NMPZ i feel like

[@bosnianuser]

Just in an hour!

[@V27277]

In 15 mins!

[@christinep9908]

Love the video and understand the Internet issue but isnt the point to get better at moving not at vibe guessing

[@sayanama]

I always thought English players cried about everything like pitch, ground, crowd, weather, food. This is the first time I saw an Aussie do that!

[@tobbex7372]

Jake can read signs. Sometimes. How he is that good is a mystery.

[@chupacabre99]

moving jewles?

[@Subscribepls455]

Wwww love da vids

[@lazarflicks240]

Zi8gzag with the new lighting🔥

[@reggiedixon2]

I can't help feeling that "My no moving guesses are better than my moving guesses" is a self-fulfilling prophecy - yes movement in Geoguessr is frequently infuriatingly slow and those black spots are worse, but even in the middle of nowhere a sign with language on it can prevent a complete disaster.

[@thedailystride5407]

Jake moving is an absolute beast

[@zi8gzag]

he really is

[@Carpaccio-tu2kt]

19:10 salem is a famous city. Also there are like 15 different Salem in usa lol

[@wizwilzo]

yea salem is the capital of oregon too

[@Lennli]

damn, the aussie latency situation is actually tragic... wasnt quite aware of that

[@kileyslife7541]

When you see the video is an hour long, you know it's gonna be a good one

[@lewisinho]

18:51 i might be wrong but i think you might be confusing it with the salem in Massachusetts, if u knew the west virginia one then ur just cracked idk

[@NuTTyJUSTIN]

17:11 definitely wouldn’t be Alaska with the Harbour spelling , Canada spells it like that

[@shawn.champagne]

2:51 Australian internet moment

[@zi8gzag]

I had it down while it was still 0:02 D:

[@notep4583]

@@zi8gzag Even before that the movement was all blurry. You can actually move that fast and get everything loaded on every click.

[@fursuits]

3:12 the sign said "Bruxelles" which is French for Brussels, so it's in southern Brussels

[@johnrobertson9181]

I think the best think Jake could teach you is the types of signs that will net you good info in each country. That way you can speed down the road in a known county and scan to find the types of signs that will help you.

[@CheerioCheerio]

Please stop putting these beauty filters on your face in the thumbnail. It doesn't look good and honestly it makes it a bit ridiculous.

[@Gameboygenius]

22:59 I play the official daily challenge every day, and a while back there were Santa Cruz rounds in almost consecutive days. I realized that those "Argentinian" poles are actually quite common around the Santa Cruz area. Also, like I mentioned in my reply to Jake, it would be cool to see the "other side" to both this and the NMPZ video. Would be cool to study how you both reasoned through some of those guesses. It could be a unlisted video linked in the description or something like that, but it would feel valuable at least to me.

[@alliebooo]

damn a really long video, this is gonna be EPIC

[@timberwolvesenthusiast8014]

Oscar playing moving? What happened to the oscar i love

[@sayansingha6370]

Avg moving hater 😑

[@mystorrud]

zigzag not knowing the danish island of Møn is heartbreaking 💔

[@DrPepperloverB]

First Vancouver island round I’ve seen in forever! Wish they showed up more often, but what gives

[@michaelwisniewski6047]

My two favourite people in one series!!! It’s the best thing that ever happened on YT! And I’ll take your homework and learn it with you.

[@davidwalker3626]

Really great series for the viewers, but especially for you guys...the tasks you're assigning for each other are really going to improve both of your weaknesses, I believe.

[@Erwipro]

I had to smile at the Denmark round at just after 30:00. Møns Klint means 'cliffs of Møn', Møn being the island you're at. I've been on the island and at the cliffs this summer, but probably haven't driven at this intersection.

[@explorernate]

Great series, looking forward to great improvement from both of you in your weakest game modes

[@Woltror]

42:06 unsubscribed. It's called Israel.

[@deryaisik21]

Goodbye

[@pinkdragon4830]

Zi8gzag reading this: 😥😥😰😓😨😨😭😭🤯😩😩😫😔😖

[@essengeebee]

I thought I recognised Salem, WV from Peter Santenello's "Poorest Region of America" video which went somewhat viral a few months ago but after scanning through it, I don't think it was that. There are a number of other Salems in the US though. Salem, MA, famed for the witch trials, Salem, OR, the capital of Oregon, and also Salem, AR which is the point where the paths of this week's solar eclipse and last week's lunar eclipse intersect.

[@cody6295]

How the tables have turned, you have to win to end the video.

[@worriorgrey]

U HIT 100K well done bro keep going

[@jossiman2977]

Yo

[@owenwya]

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