ZiiGaat Cincotres vs Doscinco: Review

[@Allride_]

I also subscribed right after watching the first video I found. By now, I have watched and liked all your videos, just to help you with the algorithm. Please keep going. There's so many new IEMs coming that seem to come with a twist and that might be fun to hear your opinions on

[@larrydunn4626]

the answer is Doscinco and eq the bass region 64, 125 and 250 down 2db. That keeps the technicalities and removes the bass V

[@Jessemakesvids]

I DJ and need to hear the bass, but don't want it exaggerated so I know what the mix is really doing - which one do you recommend please?

[@deadline7610]

Hey JP & John. Nicely Done. John we got a chance to meet a couple of times at Can Jam NY. Question about the ear tips that fit me so well on the Cincotres and I want to know from a guy who has friends at Linsoul or JP if you know what brand & style is being used ( mine came with clear/smokey with yellow bore tips) so I can buy so backups. Thanks .

[@StarBuccaneers168]

Nice review. Meyer Audio Sliivo SLT6 review in the future? I would like to see which sets you guys like!

[@Viewer13128]

Would be great if you guys can review the HiSenior Mega5EST 7th Anniversary edition with comparisons.

[@fiddlix]

Great review guys, just subbed your channel. Cheers.

[@innovance3788]

Review suggestion: Myer-Audio Sliivo SL41

[@innovance3788]

Also, apparently the new Simgot Quadbrid, Supermix 4 graphs kinda similarly to the Quintet, so would be interesting to see what you guys make of that!

[@Viewer13128]

can you list better alternatives to the doscinco and cincotres? PS: normally in review videos, this would have been in the comparisons section.

[@Kruptosman]

Thank you guys for a wonderful review. I have been confused as to which one to go for put you have both done a great job of pointing me towards the Dosinco. Love my Reggae and Afrobeat music❤ jazz and movies. A quick question to JP you said you would not even get the Dosinco but for that style of tuning and for that price do you know of a better iem?

[@Kruptosman]

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[@TheAudioReviewShow]

Hi! JP here. Thanks for your positive comment! I think the Dosinco is great for general music enjoyment, especially since it gives great bass as well as overall technicalities (resolution and details). I personally prefer more studio neutral tunings, so things that are completely flat in the mids. For a lot of people, neutral tunings can come across as sterile or boring, but it makes for a really accurate sound, which is what I personally want. For around the price range, I think I would also recommend the Kiwi Ears Quintet, or for a little more money ($400) the Thieaudio Hype 4

[@Kruptosman]

@@TheAudioReviewShow thank you for your response. Looking forward to more great reviews.

[@nukert658]

how do the aerte and estrella compare with these?

[@moonsofjupiter]

The Arete is a better Cincotres if you ask me. If you want a full sounding warm/neutral iem with hardly any flaws go Arete. I own Doscincos and Estrellas. If you like bass, it’s hard to beat the Doscincos under $500. They just slam, amazing bass quality and texture, have good detail, non fatiguing, very pleasing treble while still being smooth. Estrellas (6 drivers) are almost identical through the upper mids but add more presence and upper extension. They have a new super tweeter that almost sounds like EST's. The treble exists in a higher plane creating a larger space and soundstage, also wider. The treble energy can be a bit much if you’re sensitive to that and the recording is bright. So it’s not an all rounder. When it hits its magical. 70s/80s stuff like Rush/Genesis sound more dynamic and you can pick up new things. That said I would rec Doscincos first, or Arete if you want cleaner mids and less impactful bass. These all sound way above their cost. The cables and tips should be put aside. I use Azla ASMR tips and open heart copper cables ($20 or less). They tighten the bass and overall sound. I found the stock cables boomy. They could have gave better accessories /cable and charged $50 more but I have no problem with what they did for the price.

[@nukert658]

@@moonsofjupiter and where do the xenns tea pros fit in all this, the arete is my strongest consideration at the moment but tea pros are tempting

[@moonsofjupiter]

@@nukert658 I haven’t heard. It’s in the same arena as Doscincos and Estrellas (and Arete). so I wouldn’t be interested. The Tea Pro certainly has nicer packaging, accessories and cable. Also more expensive. Not sure it will sound better than the Ziigaats. maybe for vocals.

[@torjones-7]

Thumbs down based on personal preferences are just... stupid. You have to review the product based on what its trying to do at the price range, what's the target public etc. I like sports cars, if I review an SUV, I have to look at the SUV for what it is, for who it is for and if its worth at that price point. Or should I just say it sucks because I personally don't like SUVs? Just silly and waste of time. Maybe I should start an KZbin channel just to give thumbs down to everyhing I personally dislike.

[@KmtS9]

Yes go ahead, start a KZbin channel. Literally no one is stopping you. The same way no one is forcing you to watch their videos.

[@Viewer13128]

did u misunderstand the video? his personal preferences and target ALIGNED with the Cincotres, but he did not pick the Cincotres because the Cincotres underperformed within its price range and peers. He clearly stated the Cincotres sounded veiled and was less technical than the Doscinco. In addition, he stated that the Cincotres sounded plasticky to him. If your accusation was correct, he would've picked the Cincotres because its FR matched his target. He did not because he actually did what you wanted him to do, which was to review it based on what it's trying to do. Despite the FR matching his preference, the Cincotres underperformed, so he actually said that which is what you wanted him to do. Using your example, he likes sports cars, but he looked at the sports car and SUV for what they were worth and he did not pick the sports car. that's what u wanted right? that's what he did. you're accusing him of the opposite. btw, the reviewer on the right clearly said his verdict: ignoring his personal taste, if you like studio tuning, he does not recommend the cincotres. if you like bass, he definitely does recommend the doscinco. he clearly said for himself, he does not prefer either. he differentiated the two pretty clearly.

[@larrydunn4626]

every reviewer thumbs up or down based on what they look for, and as long as they explain WHY the up or down thumb, you can use that information to decide it might be a thumbs up for you and thumbs down for him.

[@alvarg]

I disagree, its impossible to review something without personal bias, no matter what something does or doesn't do, if you don't like it, you stipulate why you do or don't like it and list your personal reasons as to why. maybe someone has similar preference to yours and it will help them, maybe they have the opposite preference but either way they will get an idea of whether something is good or not.