Zildjian Gen16 vs L80 vs Agean Low Noise Cymbals natural sound comparison

[@JohanLGT]

since the loudest is the one with the best sound, we can conclude: cymbals are not meant to be quiet.

[@drumtecTV]

Well in the end it´s always physics, so you are right :) Kind regards!

[@DS-wo8wr]

But the L80’s are made to be quiet. Perfect practice cymbals.

[@jbkprod07]

...unless you need cymbals that are meant to be quiet, which the L80's are

[@stixpooper3704]

Yes cymbals that sound quiet but good as well if possible!

[@Slay-Man]

The most silent cymbals is L80, but I think Agean sounds better. It sounds like a real cymbal.

[@beatarcheologzt]

Yeah but its also the loudest

[@charlesv9634]

yeah, although I kind of like the l80 hi-hat in it's own kind of way.

[@Edd13Xx]

Totally defeats the purpose Man

[@Slay-Man]

@@Edd13Xx it's the loudest yes but still way more silent than a regular symbal

[@devswaine]

@@Edd13Xx the purpose is whatever purpose that person uses it for. I could see using some of these as more effects cymbals or including them in stacks for experimental options. They don't HAVE to be a practice cymbal for maximum volume reduction just because they're marketed that way.

[@ollivuoti6368]

Agean is definitely the best option but also the loudest. They sound that good though, I can imagine myself using these with acoustic set on smaller venues where the cymbal volume is a problem. Thanks for the comparison!

[@EduanSnarf]

It's so hard. I've owned agean R series cymbals but they are loud. They sound incredible but defeats the purpose. Still the part of electronic drums that need to catch up with the drum sounds

[@eucabusas]

@@EduanSnarf Have you sold yours? I own a set of L80s now and it's good for practice but when I'm doing covers it sometimes doesn't give me the cut and weight I want. My practice kit is sitting on my bedroom, I think yours is on a small room as well? Are the Ageans that loud? They sound good but if the loudness is unjustifiable I think I might as well keep my L80s.

[@EduanSnarf]

@@eucabusas depends if you have people that you can bother. I couldn't lay into them without thinking I'm bothering someone. The feel is good. I might try to get the hats to record and perhaps use roland Cymbals with the electronic drumset. The L80's are great for practice 👍

[@EduanSnarf]

@@eucabusas yes I sold mine. Like the hats and crash. Ride was soso. Perhaps get a smaller flat ride if you want a ride thats controllable and quiet?

[@SimpleAndyRock]

I agree with this... The Agean is pretty much as loud as my zildjian city pack (which are standard but smaller than typical cymbals, 18inch ride, 12 inch hi hat). I do gotta say i love the sound of the ageans, where its great for a different sound. Im considering still picking up the Zildjians purely for the purpose of lower volume

[@joaodepaula]

Fantastic video as always. Agean sounds better than all, it's a great choice to use the electronic drums and mic only the Cymbals. That yes will be the definitive test.

[@T-Hawkeyes]

Much louder, which kinda defeats the purposes.

[@abettencourtmusic]

Massive thanks for this. In November 2020 it seems Zildjian is discontinuing their Gen 16 line, so I’m looking for alternatives. Will definitely look a little more into the Agean brand. Thanks again.

[@drumtecTV]

You're very welcome & thank you for your positive feedback! Have you checked out these more recent videos yet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYuXlJeBYpaKq80 Kind regards!

[@glennedwardgo]

L80 wins the quietness. But the Agean sounds really good as a lower volume cymbal that still sounds like a regular cymbal.

[@fiendishthingy1630]

I agree completely! Great "lower" (not "low") volume sound!

[@novembervoid.2768]

The Zildjian L80 cymbals don’t sound THAT bad! Sure they may sound dull, but if your in a situation where playing your drum set is impossible without having noise complaints, these seem to be the best option. Just my opinion though.

[@jbkprod07]

right...the whole point of them is volume reduction with the feel of regular cymbals, not tone

[@luisguillermolopezpaez3516]

I think the same as you. I prefer zildjian L, because it is special for situations where a drummer needs to practice, for example, in a 3rd floor building and you have annoying neighbors and they want to sleep 😅😂😂

[@igormombrine886]

Agean is the best! The B25 metal alloy of them is perfect!

[@raffaellocarletto]

this video was very enlightening for me, i ended up buying the L80. I thought Gen's sound was better, closer to natural, but when the drum groove was put in, the L80 behaved better in every context. I'm super satisfied with mine, it opened up possibilities for me to play in places I couldn't before. Tanks

[@drumtecTV]

Thank you Raffaelo. that's great to hear!

[@EleniEliades_]

The whole point is to have *Low-Volume* in order to play in apartment situations or inside a house and not annoy others you live with as well as being quiet for the neighbors. Zildjian L-80 Low Volume Cymbals are much quieter than the others. Aegean Cymbals sound like regular cymbals so they wouldn't work even though they sound very good but much too loud. They'd be perfect for small club performances though, not in apartment /house /neighbors situation.

[@drumtecTV]

Even the Zildjian L80 low volume cymbals will probably too loud for playing in an appartment, you´d rather need an electronic drum set with rubber cymbals for this situation without any metal cymbals involved. The Agean cymbals are way more silent than regular cymbals & are indeed meant to be used for live gigs in small locations & practicing in your basement/house with reduced volume as well. This is obviously depending on your individual practicing situation. For a difficult environment like an appartment with neighbours living next door, even a pure e-kit might be too loud in some cases. Kind regards!

[@ejj9956]

drumtecTV please respond, so would the ageans be able to be heard from 3 rooms over? I’m looking to practice in a house without the family being bothered in the living room.

[@rottingemptiness]

Plastic cymbals sound like _"I have a bad case of diarrhea"_ , but unfortunetaly , in many cases , it's the only option (appartment or bad neighbours)

[@gggddd1518]

@@drumtecTV Yamaha crashes and ride are good choise this is good electronic cymbals l have also gen 16 ,l80 .l think good choise is put pick up hi hat from gen 16 to L80 series this is my plan in my new studio flat .Hi hat electronic rubber is always problem l can stay also with only rubber hi hat..

[@shemademegay]

Agean do sound a hell of a lot better in my ears! Depending how quiet you need it but if you want the sound, these are way better than both sets of Zildjians! You can here the stick hitting metal more than the actual cymbal sound!! But then, if they’re loads quieter and that’s what you need, then fair enough...go for them. I’d personally get the agean.

[@shemademegay]

I might even consider using them for low level/late night recordings to be honest!! Going by that video! But the Zildjians would be naff for that!

[@65Drums]

What are the volume differences?

[@modernbeachball]

65 Drums ayy justin wassup

[@TwinsTubeTV]

the agean are for sure the louder out of the bunch and the l80 have that terrible coating with just makes it far quieter

[@modernbeachball]

Twins Tube Tv ditto

[@drumtecTV]

Agean >= Gen16 > L80, Agean just slightly louder than Gen16, L80 considerably more silent than the others. Kind regards!

[@guentherburgstaller8886]

How quiet are the L80 compared to the Roland Rubber cymbals?

[@emlix1]

Those Agean sound so sweet.

[@TwinsTubeTV]

agean sound incredible damn good job guys

[@oneminutetomidnight]

I just set up cymbal stands with no cymbals, but I use my mouth to make the sound of the cymbal whenever I hit the air where the cymbal would be, and I keep a microphone near my mouth. It sounds great.

[@drumtecTV]

That sounds interesting, you should probably be doing a demo video for your setup ;-)

[@robertlucas9867]

Great video. Those Agean cymbals sound the best.

[@sezginguleryuz1977]

Agean R Series for sure!

[@hogblockula9335]

The agean set sounds really good

[@adorodrums]

What most people don't understand: the brighter the sound of the cymbals, the less volume they need in order to be "too loud". So agean are doing it right: bringing down the volume without pitching the tone higher. They sound enjoyable, and are therefore less loud than any zildjian solution, as those do not work acoustically at all. Sorry, but i have really expected zildjian to come up with a product as good as the ageans, but after nearly 10 years now on the market, they have not learned a thing.... sigh...

[@Sam-M-1988]

I really really wanna hear what a stack would sound like with that Aegean China and the 18 inch crash

[@evankellyest]

The question I have is how does it all sound from the player's point of view when headphones are blaring the drum kit. What I mean is, is it a better playing experience going this route rather than e-cymbals? The Ageans are def intriguing

[@Ramshackled17]

Agean sounds beautiful!!

[@jeffkearney3574]

Good comparison. For my application the L80s are the best option. I agree that the Ageans sound the best and if I ever need a small gig option I would look for those...but that day will not arrive anytime soon. Either way its great to have two solid options for two completely different situations

[@drumtecTV]

Hey Jeff, thank you! There's some more footage that might be helpful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYuXlJeBYpaKq80 Kind regards!

[@Killenmachine05]

the ageans sound great, but how would one go about putting them through front of house along with their electric kit in a live setting?

[@drumtecTV]

Hey Dan! You would basically treat the cymbals as common acoustic cymbals (mic them up with a pair of overheads) & get the signals from your electronic drum module´s outputs to the foh as well. Works great: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nV7ZZqyCZqp2f6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3_NdIKVp5mMd6c Kind regards!

[@ilvdico]

The Agean sound very nice, not as quiet as the L80s which would make the Agean perfect for a small gig. The L80s is definitely the best choice if you want the quietest for practice.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi Eric, absolutely right! :) kind regards!

[@fl00d69]

The Agean actually sounds awesome, unlke all the others.

[@tarimbicagi]

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[@garyh4458]

I'm looking for a way to have a cymbal that sounds like a cymbal but not so deafening. None of these are really what I want. I don't want to hear the sticks more than the cymbals. Is there anything that helps with that?

[@drumtecTV]

Hey Gary, if you want to see/hear more low noise cymbal options, you can check out our big low noise cymbal comparison over here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y The most natural sounding low noise cymbals are the Ageans, which can sound very nice in a mixed setup: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXnaoKqVhLl3q6c Unfortunately, there is no silent cymbal option that sounds more like a regular acoustic cymbal as far as I know. Kind regards!

[@PodmornicaFTW]

Could you please put the Gen16 pickups on the Agean "R" cymbals and run them throught the Gen16 module? I'd watch that for sure.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi, we´ve already tried to do that & sadly it won´t work. The holes of the Ageans are a little larger than Gen16, so the mounted pickups create a rattling noise. In addition to that, the Ageans are also thinner, so when a pickup is attached, they lose their nice natural sound & feel choked. It is much less expensive to use overheads & a mixer btw, and the sound is much more natural... ;) www.drum-tec.de/hybrid-overhead-mixer-bundle

[@PodmornicaFTW]

First off, thanks for the reply, I'd have to commend your social marketing team :D Secondly, did you guys think of maybe machining a screw that would have the necessary diameter for the Agean cymbals, but have the thread diameter necessary for the Gen16 female end of the pickup. I'd say that there might be some content creation and business potential :3

[@drumtecTV]

As said before, the Agean cymbals are too thin/light & lose their sound when you attach any kind of screws to it. Kind regards!

[@PodmornicaFTW]

Well then, thanks for the reply :)

[@johnburkhalter3880]

Does anyone know the actual db readings for these Ageans. I have watched videos for the zildjian and sabian low volumes. Just wondering how much louder these are.

[@johnburkhalter3880]

Are the Agean cymbals significantly quieter than standard cymbals. I know they are louder than the zildjian but it's hard to tell how they compare in volume to traditional cymbals.

[@drumtecTV]

Hey John, sure! They are low noise cymbals too, so they are way more silent than any "regular" acoustic cymbal. The difference in volume between Ageans & Zildjian L80 is by far not as obvious as between Ageans & regular cymbals. Kind regards!

[@guillaumejeanetiopathe2285]

Are agean cymbals compatible with rtom black in terms of volume? Does it sounds good for an acoustic concert? With an acoustic guitar?

[@johnpaulyates1655]

And where are the Sabian Quiet Tone Cymbals?

[@Tacud72]

Aegan sounds great, but Zildjan gen ride and china sounds better. Real low volume are L80 but sounds like plastic😀. Great comparision👍.

[@rubenssouza2471]

Onde encontro os produtos de vocês

[@drumtecTV]

www.drum-tec.com/ Kind regards!

[@skylukewalker1210]

you guys should get your hands on the new Sabian quiet tone cymbals to try out too.

[@edrummidi9041]

Good Job guys!

[@drumtecTV]

Thank you very much! :)

[@joaodepaula]

Waiting for the next video with the drums connected

[@drumtecTV]

Coming today! :)

[@petercriscuolo6180]

Agean.I Want Them.

[@drumtecTV]

Hey Peter, you can get them :) www.drum-tec.com/cymbals/agean-cymbals Kind regards!

[@dumdumbrown4225]

drumtecTV - haven’t you guys gotten your hands on Sabian’s Quiet Tone cymbals yet? Would be awesome to see a full on comparison of Zildjian, Sabian, Aegean, WHD & Chang silent cymbals. I’m trying to decide on which sound nicer - surprisingly, Zildjian’s L80s are not on the top of my list - I think even Chang’s J series and Gear4Music’s home brand WHD low volume cymbals have better tone than the L80s - of course the Aegean R series is tops! Zildjian lowers volume at the cost of tone 🙁 but perhaps Zildjian will start selling Gen16s cheaper without the triggers 🤗 I want to use a set of silent cymbals as part of an acoustic Mapex maple-walnut shell kit and a Ludwig steel snare with RTOMs - so no triggers - just mic’ing them all through a mixer.

[@leomassicipriano3330]

🎼🇮🇹 Agean 🇮🇹🎼

[@stixpooper3704]

Ageans were best. These might work for me as a tinnitus sufferer for live playing. Enough volume to be picked up by overheads perhaps but easier on the ear!

[@Genv6]

How is the durability on the Ageans?

[@afraniosimoes3653]

How many decibels we get from Agean? (just for a comparasion to regular ones that can reach 120).

[@jadonchacon]

I know the L80s can get up to 90 decibels (mostly the open hi hats) so I’d assume the Ageans would be closer to 95-105 decibels overall, just guessing.

[@MammutMaxi580]

In my opinion the Agean cymbals sound best, but also they are the loudest ... So don`t know if they are the right choice

[@alejandromayorga8614]

KiwiDerUnzucht same

[@exci6198]

As someone considering a similar setup, this video is very helpful to judge how much the sound of pad strikes bleeds into the overheads. But is there any example for room mics? How much would the pads be heard (relative to the cymbals) from 5-10 meters away?

[@ILuvJazzNJava]

To me the Agean sounded the best overall with the exception of the hats. I think the Gen 16 hats were my preference. L80's are nice if you need the absolute quietest cymbals.

[@drumtecTV]

We have a more recent & comprehensive comparison over here that you also might want to check out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y Kind regards!

[@markratnam9607]

This may sound like a stupid question... But the Zildjian Gen 16 pickups can be used with other brand low volume cymbals right?

[@drumtecTV]

Hey Mark, not really, as other low noise cymbals have different hole diameters, which causes the pickups to rattle & the pickups will choke the sound of the cymbals. Apart from this, any low noise cymbal will sound significantly more natural (plus natural stereo panaroma) when mic'ed up with a pair of stereo overhead mics: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaHWqKyKf62Xras Kind regards!

[@jorgvanbleiswijk1721]

which Agean cumball sizes were tested overhere? thanks!

[@drumtecTV]

You can read this in the bottom left corner of the video during the sound demo :) Kind regards!

[@peterwarren8166]

I have a set of the Agean cymbals and they sound great except the hi hat. The hi hat in your video sounds better than mine. Have you heared a variation from 1 set to the next?

[@drumtecTV]

Hey Peter, I´ve already replied to your facebook message :) KInd regards!

[@bradyrogers9517]

Did the drummer share his preference?

[@drumtecTV]

Hey Brady, not yet but I can do so ;) the L80 are the most silent, while the Ageans are a little louder but sound much more like a "real" cymbal (still being much more silent than regular cymbals). So for practicing the L80 are ok, but for having "real cymbals" that are more silent, I would chose Agean any day :) Kind regards!

[@alyxl4mb904]

I would use the gen16 for fx they sound kinda mystical

[@gregwilliams2764]

Love these the best

[@fiendishthingy1630]

Love which ones the best?

[@ScuffyTheDog]

@@fiendishthingy1630 these!

[@PalmdaleGal]

@@ScuffyTheDog - Which? The Gen 16, the L80 or the Agean?

[@fabiozegarra8569]

I Think That if you want Low volume you go to the l80 but if You want Real Symbal sound You Go to Agean, I go to L80 i want a quite Practice :)

[@ABentPaperclip]

if you want a real cymbal sound, why not just use a real cymbal? the whole point of these is for quiet practice

[@fabiozegarra8569]

eldeecg Depends On You :)

[@EzBeat14]

Great video! What is this heads and rubber rims on the drums? Which company makes them? Thanks

[@johnjo8024]

I have the L80, but I'm torn between sound quality vs quietness. L80 is the most silent but also sounds like crap. So I guess it boils down to what's more important to you: Sound quality vs. quietness.

[@drumtecTV]

Hey John, yes absolutely! The other low noise cymbal options are a little louder than L80. You can check out this more recent sound comparisons with more models/brands if you like: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYuXlJeBYpaKq80 Kind regards!

[@DPGlu]

Based on this video, the ageans sound excellent, especially the ride and china cymbals. However, I can tell you, that the Zildjian´s sound worse in the video, than they really are (I own a big set of L80s and Gen16s). For example, the L80 10" Splash and the Gen16 16" China sound really fine, not that trashy and "empty", as in this video. Also the 16" crash of the Gen16 series sounds really decent. Gen16´s 20" ride tends to have a lot of high frequencies, especially for the bell. I was able to minimize that by using 2-3 of the dampening pins. In the end, we have to try out those cymbals live on our own ;-)

[@Peter-ff1tp]

The Agean sounds good enough to use at a small gig. Zildjian for the neighbors, though.

[@jeffinhopb1]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 L80 the best for me.

[@ronfleming5488]

If you think about it, on the spectrum from full cymbal with no holes all the way down to L80, basically what you are doing is trading off cymbal sound in exchange for quietness. Less metal = less volume, but also less material to contribute to the complexity of the tone. So to get down the the quietness of the L80, you have to give up some of what contributes to a great cymbal sound. Which means it really comes down to priority. The Ageans sound better no doubt, but if you live in a multi-floor apartment complex or live in a home situation where volume is a major issue and potentially will prevent you from being able to play when you want to play, then the quietness of the L80s will trump the superior sound quality of the Ageans. If you can live with the Ageans being louder, and don't mind basically paying the same price you'd pay for pro-level Zildjians or Sabians, then you'd go with those. But it's kinda like 2 different use cases depending on how much volume you can tolerate, and the L80s basically give you the quietest cymbals that still sound and feel close enough to actual cymbals to be a good practice aid.

[@drumtecTV]

Absolutely true! :) kind regards

[@glenabsolum778]

the Argeans look the nicest although sound slightly louder

[@cjleongson]

Have you considered the sabian ones?

[@grygrskls]

I'm very surprised none of these drum companies have created acoustic drum heads/cymbals for MEDIUM volume. You can't use these cymbals/heads acoustically in a live gig because they're too quiet, but regular drums are often too loud. Whoever first creates drums that can register around 85 decibels will probably rule the market.

[@jadonchacon]

Sabian had made some cymbals like this called the FRX series, although they’re extremely expensive, cost as much as their HHX line

[@תהלוויספר]

You can keep the bottom drum head while the remo silentstroke head is on, it will give you more sound and tone. And besides, you don't have to buy zildijian cymbals.. I have ankara cymbals and they too loud for me so I put a tape on them (still loud..) but much less than a regular cymbal. Sounds like it's good for your situation

[@ahmetkosedrum]

Agean😍😍😍

[@aluminium_gas-wedding..]

R 👌Very nice tone

[@pravin73]

Seems to me the right compromise between volume, tone and feel is the Zildjian Gen 16 series.... I agree these cymbals were designed for low noise applications so makes no sense for them to sound close to a regular cymbal.... like the Aegean's. L80's are just souless.... not much different from rubber cymbals in my opinion. I own bronze Gen 16's and they work great in my apartment, no complaints from the neighbours.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi Pravin, keep in mind that the Ageans (which are also low noise cymbals) are basically on par with the Gen16 in terms of loudness, while the L80 are a little less silent than both. You are lucky that you can actually use low noise acoustic cymbals in you appartment, generally speaking in a usual appartment situation even the L80 are probably too loud in most cases. Kind regards!

[@pravin73]

@@drumtecTV roger that, yup am thinking of adding Aegens to my kit next, thanx for this great video too.... I tested out the L80's at my local music shop and they just seem too dead for me

[@tune7333]

Yep...my BB Gens are superb..not too loud and bright and realistic....those Ageans seem a bit trashy to my ears

[@FVDaudio]

DIY triggering maybe, but spectacular very musical low noise, pleasant, so, acoustically mic approved too (Agean R set)... But in case of micking: edit, post (clean tracks, production takes and samples) mmmm maybe the sound separation from the drum kit (extreme top high end frequencies) of Zildjian Gen16 be useful for trimming, etc.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi Francisco. there is no need of cleaning tracks when working with overhead mics / Agean & drum-tec electronic drums for example. The acoustic sound of the drum-tec mesh heads is so silent (when placing overhead mics appropriately), that you won´t hear it when bringing in the drum sounds from the sound module. Please also check out our latest videos on this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJOUpGSwfbuerKM kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3_NdIKVp5mMd6c Kind regards!

[@JasonWelchMusic]

Im a zildjian fanatic... however there's nothing l like about their low vol stuff. The Agaen just sound better. If you want quiet, play air drums. If something doesnt sound good, l dont enjoy playing. That said, l would love to have a full set of the Agaen just for cafe gigs. Then l could play as normal, but have a killer, yet quieter sound.. Match that with a 6 piece drum tech kit, a td50, and SD2.... what more could l want?

[@drumtecTV]

:-D

[@mehmanxirdalanli-ritm-aachen]

Again super

[@gokblok]

That L80 ride sounds good as hell. Super dry.

[@mordokch]

It's a bit of an odd shoot out really as they are all so different. The L80's are going for pure sound level reduction with no serious attempt to actually sound good. The Gen16's and the Agean's are so different - the gens sound sweet and ethereal, where as the agean's sound aggressive and a bit trashy - let's face it, we want both ! I personally own 2 sets of Gen16's (with pickups and brains - one nickel and one brass) and I really like them, but I quite fancy a few of these ageans to mix in.

[@drumtecTV]

Yes you are right, they are very different. To make it even harder, we've done an even more extensive low noise cymbal comparison :-D kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y And don't forget to include the new Agean Flat R series ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYuXlJeBYpaKq80 Kind regards!

[@mordokch]

@@drumtecTV Oh dear lol. I'll check those vids out in a bit. I'm helping a friend set himself up with a set of 'something' - Gen16's probably, but it's always good to see what else is out there. When I bought mine, Gen16 was it - literally the only choice, so it's interesting to me to see what's been happening when I wasn't watching :)

[@williamgold9873]

How about listing the prices.. Ageans sound great but at $650 for a three piece set compared to L80 at $300 makes the choice a little easier for many.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi William, you can find all prices over here: www.drum-tec.com/cymbals Kind regards!

[@fiendishthingy1630]

William Gold - He's just comparing sounds between them, not comparing them for sale. That's why comments are for sound preference of sound and volume.

[@blessingsemba9092]

1. I LIKE THE L 80 MORE CAUSE THEY ARE QUIETER .... THEY GO ALONG WITHE THE PURPOSE OF THE OF NOISE REDUCTION FOLLOWD BY GEN 16 YET AGEAN IS MORE OF A GENERAL LOUD ACOUSTIC DRUM SO IT IS THE OPPOSITE WHEN YOU NEED LOUD SOUND ON A LOUDER ENVIRONMENT

[@davidjames1684]

To me, the L80s are the best of the bunch since they do what they are supposed to do (play quietly) best. The other ones have some annoying high frequency buildup that sustains too long. The L80s have a more "dry"sound with less sustain which I like. Also for those of you that do green screen, it is better to have a non reflective / non shiny cymbal, otherwise it might not work well with greenscreen.

[@TheM8trix]

If the L80s are described as 80% quieter than a regular cymbal (and from playing mine, I'd say that's accurate), where would the Agean cymbals fall in that spectrum? 60% quieter? 50%...?

[@drumtecTV]

Hey Brian, it's hard to say in numbers, but I guess you might be right. You might check these other videos for a more comprehensive overview on available options: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYuXlJeBYpaKq80 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqTEYmOLftJ4iq8 Kind regards!

[@jeremiahdavis7904]

In order for quality: 1. Aegan 2. Gen 16 3. L80 This is coming from a major zildjan fan so...

[@drumtecTV]

:-D

[@saralynchernishuk]

in my opinion Agean sound best but if your looking for something more quiet I think the Zildjian are better for that

[@IsaakLorton]

For the record, these are supposed to be low noise cymbals. They aren't necessarily meant to sound great, they are really intended for practice and for electronic kits. L80 is the obvious choice. Granted the Agean cymbals sound more like real cymbals, but isn't that just defeating the purpose of having a low noise cymbal? It's only a little quieter. You might as well just play softer on regular cymbals. For low noise L80 is fantastic.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi Isaak, actually the Agean R are also considerably more silent than regular acoustic cymbals. So they are really well suited for hybrid E/A kit setups or problematic venues to keep down the cymbals volume without losing a nice realistic sound. I agree that for practicing purposes, the L80 are the better choice if you want to keep volume as low as possible for metal cymbals. Kind regards!

[@Deist]

are the Ageans quite enough to play in an apartment?

[@drumtecTV]

Hi, for appartment use low noise cymbals might be too noisy in general. They all are considerably louder than rubber trigger cymbal pads. Kind regards!

[@Plasmalescence]

L80 crashes sound like toys., the Aegean sound bright and splashy with sustain and most like regular cymbals, but for me, the Gen16 are golden. And they are the quietest.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi, have you checked out our more recent silent cymbal sound comparison already, which included more models/brands: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y And there's the great new Agean Flat R series, which came later than the first video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYuXlJeBYpaKq80 Kind regards!

[@graviton9282]

They sound great. What a wonderful alternative.! Zildjian have nearly no tone. L80 is all attack. Aegean are actually useful as instruments!

[@reesemcgahagin9603]

IMHO the Agean sound the best.

[@candreel]

Low Volume has the wrost sound, but the volume is more balanced to the drumhead.

[@AbitLippy]

I don't understand why these low volume cymbals demos don't include a normal volume drum kit with the low volume cymbals. That would show how quiet the cymbals really are. There's nothing worse for me than a small venue rock gig where the cymbals override everything.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi, you can see/hear the Agean R low noise cymbals next to Agean's HushHush & Legend series (regular full cymbals) over here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIixmWuorcRlotk Kind regards!

[@kierenmoore3236]

That room needs more drum kits, stat.

[@drumtecTV]

:-D you can never have enough drum kits around... What you see is the drum-tec West showroom! (actually the smallest drum-tec showroom in Germany). Kind regards!

[@fiendishthingy1630]

@@drumtecTV - You are correct !!! In my house right now I have a Ludwig junior kit, a Mendini junior kit, an old Pearl Rhythm Traveler kit and a SPL Street Bop kit. And I'm still looking for potential other kits... because you can never have enough... Cymbal sampler assortments also, including Ludwig L80, Arborea mute, Kasza, Paiste 7 and 8, Sabian SR2 mystery cymbals (love them), a used modern Spizz miscellaneous, Meinl, a couple of no-names... Yes, I am obsessed with drums and cymbals!!!

[@veru6907]

better to play with a more dull sound for not so high price, than not play at all because its too loud

[@FraJa1980]

Those gen16's are the perfect middle, the Ageans do sound better but compared to the Zildjians they're pretty damn loud for a "silent" cymbal not to mention they're also quite expensive..... they're ugly tho'. The L80's sound a little "meh" but are very silent.... not the prettiest cymbals either with that ugly finish, the Gen 16's seem the best allround option, nice tone, somewhat affordable, not too loud and they look nice.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi! We´ve recently uploaded a new comparison & added some new options (Arborea mute / B8, Sabian Quiet Tone), check it out if you like... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y Kind regards!

[@jeremiahdavis7904]

Watch in 2x... sounds super trippy

[@drumtecTV]

:-D

[@cerumen]

3:12 3:54 4:34

[@DrumDrummerBoy]

Great review, although surely if you're reviewing something that is 'low noise' we need to know what the actual noise levels were in dB, and compared with a set of regular Zildjian K's? The Agean's sound great, but if in reality, they are twice as loud as the Gen 16 BB's, then they are not really serving the same purpose, and are just good for the time you need to sound great performing a gig in your grandma's care home and don't want to wake all the residents! ;-)

[@drumtecTV]

Hi Geoffrey, this video neither is a review nor a scientific noise level comparison :) just a little natural sound demo of all three cymbals series. The Agean Low Noise cymbals are way more silent than regular cymbals (for more specific product info please check out their website), if you are looking for the most silent solution possible, then this would be the L80. Kind regards!

[@cockatoomusiccovers1951]

Gen16 and Agean sound the best

[@martinabendel4229]

Klanglich überzeugen die Agean, aber wie ist es mit der Verarbeitung? Habe gehört, es gibt Probleme mit Rissen? Habt Ihr mal einen Test mit den neuen Sabian FRX gemacht? Die sollen ja auch leiser sein.

[@drumtecTV]

Hallo Martina, uns sind keine solchen Probleme bekannt.

[@hide09085252]

I would like to hear the sounds without an amplifier.

[@Solosonico]

Agean won, it has more vol, i think is the best cymbals quiet in the market.

[@buddybeavers2691]

Gen16 sounds the best overall and the L80 do the best job at there purpose while sounding as good as possible. The others sound pretty good but totally miss the mark on there purpose.

[@drumtecTV]

Hi Buddy, you can check out even more low noise cymbals over here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXOhZ53lKx-l5Y Kind regards!

[@Mesatallic]

The look of the L80’s could be more cymbal like. To me they are too yellow. They should be bronze in colour.

[@BluesTheBestBoyIGuess]

I'll take the gen16's definitely

[@ciri151]

gen16 not only because of the sound, but the color looks better as well. The L80 are too yellow.

[@ifilmalways7122]

Although quiet, the L80's has nearly no resonance and imo sound like crap... lol, sounds funny but I think a good high quality set of cooking pans may sound better... Maybe they sound better in person??

[@drumtecTV]

No you are right, the L80 do not sound very attractively :) have you checked out the Agean R & Agean Flat R series yet? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYuXlJeBYpaKq80 Kind regards!

[@ifilmalways7122]

@@drumtecTV I have all the Remo Silents now and gonna make a cymbal jump here soon.. Still researching . Thx for video

[@jwams]

That drummer can rip