Zimbabwe | Goodbye Rhodesia |1979

[@breed4659]

Glad everything worked out so well for Zimbabwe. Quite the economic and technological superpower these days

[@fancygiant5181]

Love this comment bro 😆

[@gardenroom65]

Rubbish

[@darwintaylor7002]

Nice outlook,but African must do more for Africans and stop being the reaping ground of the world. We as Africans should have our own phone development program, car industry, etc. Not be a mere resource for bigger foreign enterprises

[@darwintaylor7002]

@Napoléon Bonaparte ??? For some people who don't want to rule over people, you all sure do a lot of ruling over people...

[@jjbv2147]

The RSA will follow in their footsteps to the tee.

[@Wokegooglers]

Breadbasket of Africa, now it's the world's biggest net importer of foreign aid.

[@fancygiant5181]

@@Krono1001 an idiot who struggles with the English language and world history?

[@Logan-qi4nx]

marimba ani would rather starve than be discriminated against huh

[@machinagroupes2898]

Dear black enemy ,learning how to farm and start farming is not an event ,its a process ,Zimbabwe will soon perfect its imperfection and we will retain ourselves as the bread basket of Africa with or without you,dont get me wrong i dont hate whites but if they are looking forward to see us fail well they are going to be disappointed

Machina groupes I pray that you’re correct sir .

[@dibzmrasta9238]

@@fancygiant5181 English is just a mere language my learned friend. There are so many idiots who can speak fluent English just because they were born into it

[@The_Honcho]

I hear Rhodesians liked the rapper 50 cent, or as Zimbabweans call him, 500 million dollars

[@2byteCode16]

Washaya

[@reynaldo1209]

Actually, 40 cents is equal to 100 trillion 🙈

[@robcorrente6065]

Lol

[@nihongoumai8170]

Well, right now 1 USD = 361.900 ZWD

[@renatocamo]

Hehe hehe!!

[@redline1916]

What was discovered after the lightbulb in Zimbabwe? The candle.

[@cantsneedgaming4591]

yep looks like a quarter million people were keeping that country a float

[@vawsonsfurniture]

They were keeping themselves afloat. Rhodesia was a racist shit hole

[@ScottTheBot07]

That is fucking profound

[@ScottTheBot07]

@@vawsonsfurniture the place with skyscrapers and prosperity was a shit joke yes. You are comparing it to what?

[@blood5096]

@@vawsonsfurniture lol OK Marxist

[@JohanKylander]

"Some of us are starving" "We want freedom and equality" "All of us are starving"

[@tenko5541]

Fair enough. But after the chaos of the 60s the whites knew this was inevitable. It wasn't the only uprising on the continent, I'm not sure why everyone is so sentimentle about Rhodesia. It's one piece of a bigger puzzle.

[@CleanupKrew7]

@@tenko5541 White Supremacists love Rhodesia so much because they refused to get rid of their apartheid state and continued fighting completely cut off from the international community other than South Africa. Maybe Zimbabwe would be in a better position if Rhodesia didn't almost completely ignore educating and improving the infrastructure of the majority of the country.

[@indepthgeopolitics2618]

@Beautiful Greece lol,europeans were in power.what kind of government it was if it doesnt provide for its majority?

[@bobsnob3073]

@@indepthgeopolitics2618 Black people, by the late 60s, in Rhodesia could go to school and had health care. The highest quality lives for blacks in Africa, throughout all of history, even to this day was in Rhodesia.

[@faissal8997]

@@bobsnob3073 Bullshit, the blacks didn't have equal education and health systems. With all Mugabe's faults, he did good job educating his people, although he clung to power for too long and by all means. There are great misconceptions about Rhodesia and a lot of fantasies by white supremacists, but the reality was that it was an apartheid racist government which was a disgrace for the human race.

[@subinspecttom2499]

Mugabe was going to save the country,LOL...That didn't turn out very well,now did it?

[@2byteCode16]

I was happy during Mugabe's time in Mbare,Harare, I would never wish for a white men to rule me never!!!!

[@kiswahilikitukuzwe2547]

Black people indeed suffered more under the white rule.

[@barendgaming2847]

@@kiswahilikitukuzwe2547 fake news

[@harunajumaa6813]

@@barendgaming2847 it is better freedom with poverty than development with suffering

[@justincase4892]

It did for him. The Chinese made him very wealthy.

[@toonmag50]

Rhodesia in 1980 had the same GDP as NZ. Zimbabwe pissed on everything within ten years

[@kollegs101]

a good GDP that excluded the black majority is not an realistic

[@Sataka23clips]

@@kollegs101 still better than current gdp

[@mikechiks983]

No my dear. Sanctions for expulsion and land take over pissed on everything

[@c0ree]

looks like poverty follows blacks

[@joeday397]

@@c0ree they seem to sow the seeds for poverty wherever the go.

[@vishnupthampy6562]

Who knew their descendants was gonna become trillionares. 😂😂

[@zeppelin0110]

Made me laugh out loud. Well done.

[@noriamabaso3456]

Lol 😃😃😃😃

[@vawsonsfurniture]

Do you honestly believe blacks would choose white minority rule than struggle a little with their country and fix their own problems on their own terms?

[@vawsonsfurniture]

@@lobbyskids2 The point is that its better for them to struggle on their own terms than having foreigners come and make you struggle. A family can have problems but they can also fix them as a family.

[@vawsonsfurniture]

@@lobbyskids2 It is truely the other way round. It is actually Europeans that went to Africa to plunder their wealth. They built cities there without the consent of the local people and extracted their minerals. The multinationals there E.g Anglo American Cooperation was actually paying tax to the British government for copper extracted from Zambia then Northern Rhodesia. This is just a small example of atrocities committed by Europeans in Africa. Profits were insane because of forced to cheap labour at best. Treating them blacks like second class citizens and all. You saw the video... putting whole communities in keeps. I honestly do not understand how any European would be infuriated by the fact that a people are fighting for their country back. If Europeans went to Africa for trade and not as settlers by the force of the barrel of a gun, would there have been all these unnecessary conflicts. From 900AD to 1500AD Zimbabwe was involved in gold trade with the rest of the world. There was no conflict there, it was simply trade. But the greed of Europe caused the problems culminating in the Berlin conference. How do we justify that. Let history be our lesson.

[@mokopa]

"Our children are dying of hunger, food is what we need. Conditions are getting worse. We may as well be dead..." ~ Zimbabwe 2020, 41 years later

[@taxevader7613]

funny, because rhodesia was called the breadbasket of africa

[@gedraath1639]

Well.....Smith warmed you....no good crying now

[@thekyler9529]

and it has been this way since the 80s lol

[@vimalraj6]

@JeffChad What makes you think so?Im curious.

[@vimalraj6]

@JeffChad What aspect of it is bad now just to be frank im not arguing with you Im just really curious of your perspective.

[@jayfisher3359]

"The myth, that they were left alone and betrayed by their allies." Isn't that exactly, what happened?

[@jayfisher3359]

@Ilove Jesus Nice ironic name, It's nice calling them nazis as they were outnumbered by communist supported units. What about the farmers that were and still are killed and raped? Biting the hand that feeds them eh?

[@ishouldbestudyingrightnow5368]

@Ilove Jesus they were born there...

[@jayfisher3359]

@War X Good equivalency

[@TheAlexdx7]

@@ishouldbestudyingrightnow5368 Jesus never existed, your whole world is a lie. Educate yourself

[@CarrotConsumer]

The would have had allies if they agreed to universal democracy.

[@simonyip5978]

The man who says that he fought for Britain deserved better but millions of British war veterans and their families, who fought in France, Germany, Italy, North Africa and Burma were also let down by the British government. The coal, steel, aviation, cotton, woolen, fishing, shipping and many other industries were allowed to be decimated in the 1960's to the 1980's, almost to the point where the UK doesn't make a fraction of the cars, trains, ships, steel, textiles, etc etc today than 40-50 years ago. That man felt abandoned by the British government, but he wasn't the only one who felt like that.

[@cs-mi8ur]

Maybe because it's not economical anymore, you are not going to be able to export normal cars because the cost will be too high, most of your population lives in densely populated cities -they can use public transport instead of using cars, so it makes very little sense to make normal cars in UK too. Same can be said for other industries too.

[@cs0345]

Those industries are old, outdated and make very little wealth

[@disprogreavette8545]

@@cs0345 asinine statement

[@hannotn]

He didn't deserve better at all. He thought he had a right for the British government to support white Rhodesians maintaining a government that denied the rights of the majority population. He had no such right. With that attitude, he would have been more at home in the Axis forces than those of the Allies, if he was referring to WWII.

[@bushwhackeddos.2703]

And if they could see it now, the final betrayal of replacement.

[@Cryptopitbull]

And, after the Chinese take it over it’ll be called zimbung wai

[@danechristmas6570]

LMAO..Sad , actually! There is an African proverb that goes something like - "When two brothers fight over an inheritance, a stranger walks in and takes it over.."

[@MrCreamcracker15]

Lol alright yank

[@Curlie_Mermaid]

Lol🤣🤣

[@charliemartin4392]

I'm dead. True, once they cash in their favors just like all the ports and harbors they built for everyone else. Facts

[@Menhir_Plaisir]

Funniest joke !

[@mariogiresi6792]

And what has happened to both Rhodesia and South Africa since leadership has changed hands?

[@Pfsif]

@Timothy Somerville By what measures do you use? Rapes, murders, standard of living, household income? Please explain?

[@munafiqwill7837]

@Timothy Somerville I'm sure they prefer starving than having the big bad White wolf in charge of keeping them fed 😂

[@munafiqwill7837]

@Timothy Somerville Lol well atleast they are happy being millionaires in occupied Rhodesia 😃

[@sethdaboss245]

@Timothy Somerville Yeah Im sure they love their "freedom" there

[@sethdaboss245]

@Timothy Somerville Much better compared to their freedom now of not being able to criticise government and dictatorship.

[@renhoek3851]

Why are these old documentaries so much more interesting? If there was a similar one made today on bbc 4, you can guarantee it would be mostly talking heads and still pictures!

[@PibrochPonder]

ren hoek any they would be ticking every diversity box irrespective of the fact they are not experts

[@luinomrkt2111]

Those Days are pass now. Stay in your concrete jungles. War Mongers thats what you are

[@euskara2068]

Yeah if there was a documentary about Rhodesia or Ian smith they would DEFINITELY say “oH hE wAs A wHiTe SuPReMiCiSt!” Yeah what utter bullshit lies that they have said about Ian smith and Rhodesia

[@RiisPark99]

And lies.

[@TurboMintyFresh]

and full of bias

[@anaalinaama]

5:35 "Monty Pesco knows that the good times are over. He's off to South Africa". This guy must have had the shittiest luck ever.

[@hjyigo4759]

That's what I was thinking...at least he got another 15 years in SA

[@LifeAquaticDivingExperience]

@@hjyigo4759 He was a character old Monty Pesco

[@resilience4lyfe331]

Another 15 years of what... please do tell

[@diehard2705]

Charla Gotier another 15 years of getting crapped on by racist Africans before getting his land taken for a second time

[@resilience4lyfe331]

Diehard 270 lol... that’s what I thought you’d say! Ironically- that’s not reality.

[@knomadicstone7348]

The missionary doctor had the clearest idea of the issues of the time. If only anyone would've listened to people like him. Perhaps we would be having a different conversation right now about Zim.

[@fungaireasonmanzero]

Most people just went with what ey knw or heard the ddnt complete the whole video 20.00

[@PibrochPonder]

Everything he says could just be swapped now and they would be just as applicable.

[@kfinch0]

Ian Smith was 100% right about EVERYTHING!!!! HE CALLED IT ALL OUT & PREDICTED 2020 ZIMBABWE DECADES AGO... It was all predicted!

[@Mike91337]

In war the first casualty is truth.

[@harveysmith100]

@Flim Flam Ian Smith wasn't a villain. Mugabe was the villain. Smith was trying to protect a nation from just a man. He was a true leader who learned from history and did his best to protect his country. He managed for fifteen years under huge pressure. History repeats, exactly the same thing is happening in South Africa.

[@seanwilson5147]

@Flim Flam enoch Powell

[@2byteCode16]

He was not right about anything

[@harveysmith100]

@@2byteCode16 That was a very bold wide ranging comment. Name one of his predictions prior to 1980 that didn't come true?

[@Catstro]

A Zimbabwean 100 trillion dollar note is worth U.S 40 cents. Truly Zimbabwe is flourishing.

[@winstonsmith3070]

Not quite they are selling on eBay for about $75 with a free $20 Trillion note for free. I have them on my office wall reminding me what will soon be the fate of the US Dollar as well. Cheers

[@princedube9156]

Which Zimbabwe are you talking about?? I live there and we haven't had trillion dollar notes in years!!! Google first before proving yourself ignorant!

[@Feeelipeeee]

@@princedube9156 got to quadrillions already?

[@freemanchimanga7520]

Well we are nolonger in keeps .

[@fungaireasonmanzero]

Even Germany once had hyperinflation, mind u, we had it in 2008, now thats history albeit we are still on sanction, i guese thats bad news to CNN

[@dimmkah]

So how are you Zimbabweans enjoying that independence?

[@archiewochiwunga2687]

We are enjoying our country

[@mabrenz_n5391]

It's amazing the best independence you can find

[@stuyvesantrockwell7070]

dimmkah Yes Mugabe fucked things up economically. But at least the country and land is still theirs. Is better to be poor than be a slave/servant in your ancestral land ruled by racist colonisers that despise the indigenous Africans. The land is their sovereign land to mismanage. Whether westerners like it or not. Europeans have no legitimate or Ancient claim land of Indigenes. The the native Americans, Aboriginals of Australia 🇦🇺 and the Maori of New Zealand 🇳🇿 testify to that. When you forcibly take land from indigenous people violently at the point of a colonial gun, when the the natives come for their rightful land you must expect the same violence you employed. It's karma.

[@therealbomb_com8774]

@@stuyvesantrockwell7070 Now, more people are dying at the hands of the "native" people of Rhodesia. Amazing.

[@therealbomb_com8774]

@@stuyvesantrockwell7070 What I find hilarious is your assumption of me being white. False. I am a Mexican with little European blood though, I am more logical that any fucking Zimbabwean out there.

[@ejmagic3435]

Rest in peace Rhodesia.

[@josephstalin7353]

time for a reboot lads

[@vawsonsfurniture]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 it was a racist shit hole of a country

[@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098]

@@vawsonsfurniture look at Zimbabwe today vs Rhodesia

[@mrredacted85]

@@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098 buh buh Mah apartheid and mean words that was much worse than starvation and poverty

[@vawsonsfurniture]

@@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098 When you look at it from an African man's point of view, Zimbabwe is better than Rhodesia. The white man will think otherwise because of all that privilege afforded to him just by the colour of his skin. The black man will look at the segregation and the denial of opportunity that he faced because of the colour of his skin. Some say Rhodesia would have eventually changed to accommodate everyone but the black man will ask you, why eventually? Why not now? Why not yesterday? Rhodesia thought it easier to go to war against blacks demanding change than just change policy. That was the biggest mistake they made apart from seeing the blackman as a second class citizen and a man who would accept that status. No one can ever accept such. And if you threaten them by military might, they may backoff but rest assured they will also find the means to fight back as a priority. Now everyone listens to main stream media about Zimbabwe and believes it, the unknown thing is there is better opportunity there for the black man than most other countries and those that work hard in Zim are getting wealthy. It is the wealth of the white man that is perhaps stagnant or shrinking but the blacks on the whole are getting wealthier. And also most importantly, they have the dignity of being treated like people not as if they are a race that has to be led by another. This is 2021.

[@spencer6735]

all those future doctors and leaders! so glad they got their freedom

[@shibuya3185]

So are they.

[@shibuya3185]

@Pepe The Great : I didn't, sunshine. It just wasn't funny...but I know you missed mine.

[@AlexAlex-of6ms]

Kek

[@vawsonsfurniture]

Well it is and will always be better without racist colonial rulers

[@ScottTheBot07]

@@vawsonsfurniture prove that is racist

[@jonnyvale9999]

Well, you got the zimbabwe you deserve, well done.

[@shibuya3185]

Yes, it's great. Zi m is far better than Rhodesia.

[@asherif3893]

Yep better poor and independent then being rich and owned by someone else.

[@shibuya3185]

@@asherif3893 : Exactly!

[@methylene5]

@@asherif3893 They were free to leave anytime they liked. They weren't owned.

[@VYKN55]

Relax To all the people who think Rhodesia was a good idea let me hit you with this. 1.Ian Smith had a chance to better life for all citizens and yet he chose to stick it to the natives just like old times. So his failure to change cost the lives of many Europeans. The war was start cause of racism and became a mess. A mess Ian Smith could have stopped but he was to proud. 2. Mugabe and the economy are a result of the choice people had to take to get there freedom. Ruled by a government which cut ties with the commonwealth to avoid race laws or sell soul to China to gain the land and freedom but at the cost of radicalisation in terms of Marxism. 3. Every Zimbabweans hates Mugabe and when I say hate I mean to the core. The country its self is was full of prestigous individuals who were determined to prove themselves to the world. Sadly a nation can only do so much with a leader who kills and completion pays off officials creates a secret monarcy and depletes reserve Bank funds inflating the currency. 4. Everyone is welcome to visit Zimbabwe or live in if u chose(bad idea), EVERYONE. No discrimination of race at all just a tough economy to live in. 5. So many ways this could have all gone down. Perspective. To all non native readers put urself in the shoes of the oppressed africans. All Ian had to do was to recognise human rights

[@iamchristopher]

Watching this in 2020 I have to say it is rare to see journalists who just listen to all sides of the story. Neutral journalism is a rare quality in the west.

[@userer4579]

Or anywhere else for that matter.

[@Starburst7641]

Not just in the west..

[@londonbowcat1]

​@@Starburst7641 John Edmond The UDI song

[@SheriffArthurMorgan]

​@Starburst7641 yeah but the west has the propaganda that is neutral unlike other places where everyone knows there is an agenda

[@charlesbarkley1340]

This is not neutral journalism bro 😂

[@SuperBigwinston]

Britain should not have let Rhodesia down. When Britain needed help in 1st and 2nd w war Rhodesian troops came to help fight and win the war.

[@hansreiner1637]

Its due to UDI Rhodesia declared, Britain was pissed off and UN put sanction on Rhodesia causing it to internationally isolated. Ironic enough Zimbabwe doesn't make any better than Rhodesia, it just getting worsed. As a person who lived in former British colony, Rhodesia or before independence Southern Rhodesia helped us during the Malayan Emergency in the 50s, without them we probably end up like Zimbabwe itself. Rhodesia deserves better fate than this

[@vawsonsfurniture]

To what ends. What was the purpose of Rhodesia

[@Christopher-rw2bp]

@@vawsonsfurniture ok, what is the purpose of Zimbabwe? what is the purpose of human life? what is your question lol

[@patriotenfield3276]

That's British for You. Indians fought for the British colony. They carved India into pieces . Middle East helped in their war effort. Republic of Taiwan helped them. They like USA, Threw them under to the commies. Karens and Kachins helped them. They put them under a guillotine with the rope to the blade in charge of Ne Win and his criminal Tatmadaw. and America has learned the Art well from it's abusive Father. did to the Iraqis, did to the Kurds, did to the South Vietnam, and now to Afghanistan. And Taiwan is next on the line.

[@Valencetheshireman927]

@@vawsonsfurniture To be a nation

[@paulmangwengwe9284]

This film was shot in 1979 but all events happening there relate so well you might thing it was shot in 2019! What a shame. We Africans have destroyed our own country.

[@lukatmenowamveryfine1915]

As African we are just foolish

[@VYKN55]

Imagine saying u destroyed Zimbabwe. Don't u forget who killed the economy. I c so many people here cry that Africans ruined Zimbabwe but don't you forget why. In a non revolution era all African people would need permits to go to the city. We had a choice. We took it. We failed to kill the bad part of it. We leave with it. We have freedom but at the cost of getting siphoned by China. A mistake that will mere all Zimbabweans not matter skin color.

[@raymondglad5593]

well it is not Africans only. Germany 70 years ago was no better, destroyed themselves. it is not the past that matter, it is what you do now for the future.

[@kirstyhannah9307]

@Shreyas Misra It could easily be corrected! Get the right black Zimbabweans and the right white Rhodesian`s and get them to work together properly. Sort out what the problems are, and a real intent to correct them. Call the country Rhodesia, money would pour in from expat Rhodesian`s and so would investment, within 10 years Rhodesia would once again be the basket of Africa. One white farm paired with one black farm to teach them how to farm. Everybody looking after the wildlife and country and within in 2-3 years tourists would be flocking in to stay at safari lodges. This could actually happen if the will for a better life was genuine.

[@adiossoulboy]

Except the clinics had medicines the jobless and aged were assisted by gov. The farms were flourishing and exporting crops- the farm workers and their families were fed clothed and given shelter basic sure but they weren’t tortured murdered and humiliated by their own brothers.

[@davidstrong522]

Rhodesia makes sense if the simple questions are asked, for example - why is it that the only time that the country has experienced any significant development, growth, prosperity, law and order was during the Rhodesian era? Why was there no refugee crisis during the Rhodesian era? Why was the Rhodesian army 80% percent black, with only white conscripts? Why were the standards of health housing and education the highest in Africa for all races during the Rhodesian era? Why was there high levels of employment? Why did the nationalists start their war of liberation 18 months before UDI? Why did the nationalists boycott the 1962 election which was based on the non-racial constitution that they amended and agreed to in 1961? What was the purpose of nationalists' war given that the 1961 constitution guaranteed "unimpeded progress to majority rule"? Why do people only want to discuss the country's history from 1893? Do people realise that the matabele had invaded the country 70 years before the pioneers arrived and were in the process of annihilating other tribes including the Shona? Do people know that it was the actions of the pioneers that brought peace to the warring tribes? Are people aware that blacks were guaranteed representation in the Rhodesian parliament - they had seats reserved exclusively for them? Are people aware that the tribal trust areas were set aside to ensure that blacks always had land that the whites could not buy? Do people know that Rhodesia always had a non-racial constitution, that enabled anyone, regardless of race or colour, to hold the highest office in the country? Why does the country pre- and post- Rhodesia look the same, with rampant tyranny and tribalism with despotic leadership? I could go on, but why? Ignorance is something that many people just don't want to let go of! Was the country perfect - no, not by a long shot, but it was better than any other country in Africa and many globally. Even by today's standards, the Rhodesian policies on managing and respecting diverse cultures, agriculture, environment, economics, and social issues are excellent. Rhodesia had long term plans for growth and development that were aimed at raising the standard for all. Now compare and contrast Rhodesia to Zimbabwe, or any other african country including Botswana... bearing in mind the high levels of support and money pumped into them - Rhodesia actually sent money and food to the UK!

[@naijanistan]

Zimbabwe of today is fully democratic. One man one vote. Rhodesia was a Terrorist sponsored, racist state. The difference is clear to all right reasoning minds.

[@ForestWalker22]

Rhodesia was the jewel of Africa. Zimbabwe is the shithole of the world. The difference is clear to all right reasoning minds.

[@naijanistan]

sacoolman Why can't you leave Zimbabwe alone and move to someplace else probably in Europe where you can dictate their destiny? Zimbabwe says, they don't need your buns on their burgers. What can't you understand about that? Are you the type that need to be slapped upside the head to get it? Zimbabwe a racist state? What have you been smoking? No black nation discriminate against others based on the skin colors. IT IS YOU and YOU ONLY and ALWAYS.

[@naijanistan]

sacoolman You are trying to dismiss my point because you have no fact to back up your points. You must be tired. I don't have to live in Zimbabwe to know what you guys are trying to achieve over there. You have been exposed. Your game is over.

[@naijanistan]

sacoolman I'm not trying to hurt your feeling pal. And please, don't respond to my comment by taking it out on your children, pets, doors or your spouse. We are just having a mere conversation and I don't expect you to respond violently. Like you saying, "go fuck yourself" You are immature, so stay clear of my comments before the truth in my comments leads you into a psychiatric ward.

[@TrueBrit1]

An old guy I used to work with spent 3 years in Rhodesia in the late 1970s working for the government as a civil servant. He said it was truly a beautiful country back then, well run, prosperous, clean, safe, richest in Africa. When he left there at the end of his 3 year posting he said the writing was on the wall as things were deteriorating and when he looked back in later years he was upset and couldn't believe how it went so far downhill. And no, he wasn't white - he was Indian. So sad when you look at the people then who had so much hope for the future under a new regime, only to suffer considerably more than before. It's still the same today. Yes Mugabe may be dead, but little has changed.

[@hecateswolf6007]

Thanks for sharing

[@sportsrealtalk2843]

Know your history, my fellow - Colonial buffers are just that! You may need to seek help for that Postcolonial Melacholia.

[@intel2663]

Let the people grow their country. Africa has a long way to go socially and economically. We can't compare a 40year old country with the UK or US

[@MJ-fj9yv]

@@intel2663 Nothing but useless and ridiculous excuses. what the hell were they doing before the Whites in Africa? Before when there was a Persian dynasty, Mongols rule, Chinese, Greeks, etc. Africa has long to go because THEY can’t get out of THEIR own damn way….always begging for aid and killing each other.

[@imcardbored8394]

@@intel2663 He never did. He compared it to what it used to be. Sorta like if you compared the Roman Empire to the Holy Roman Empire.

[@petersullivan3012]

I was in Rhodesia from the UK working on the independence elections working with Zanu PF (Joshua Nkomo), all the black people we met were pleading with us not to pull out. The countryside was mile after mile of green fields farmed by the whites with black labour, I'm not saying anything about what is right or wrong, just that it was a wealthy and beautiful country with a decent economy. Such a shame what it became under one man.

[@petersullivan3012]

Twat!

[@tripodxxx1]

Joshua nkomo was not zanu pf...he was in zapu then

[@ajs41]

True, except I think you're mixing up Zanu and Zapu.

[@dennysmith4396]

Was born in Southern Rhodesia, Salisbury...3 week old baby... mom had to go work .... was breast-fed by a wonderful Shona lady, Hannah... til I was 4 years old... (still see her face in my mind's eye) ...we then headed for Northern Rhodesia, Lusaka... the most wonderful childhood thanks to the great staff who worked for my parents...sadsa & brisket with onions was SO delicious! The games in the sand with stones in little hollows... magic! The Askaris at Xmas time in their Ndebele tribal wear... huge shields & spears... feathers & leopard skins... wld circle hse & make scarey noises then come to front door & knock ...asking for "Chrismissy box Bwana" ... we wld be staring from safety of my moms side... the Mozambican, the Shona, the Zambian, the Ndebele were most kind to us little European kids... our introduction was priceless... coming to SA in 1961 ...Cape Town was inevitable as my dad cld see the writing on the wall...

[@jen8063]

Only royalist brits would look for a wet nurse😂

[@fancygiant5181]

@@jen8063 the fuck are you guys talking about?

[@Smudgeroon74]

Nice story.

[@documentationslave397]

denny smith The story of Northern Rhodesia is indeed a sad one to.

[@mikamiks2475]

You were breast fed by your maid ? In what world is that normal ?

[@bobbybellingham2074]

Great to see Zimbabwe doing so great these days!! South Africa next.

[@genekelly8467]

@Washu Ken But everybody is a multi-millionaire! ($1=35,000,000 Zimbabwe dollars).

[@Andropov-l2w]

fuck you

[@glynmwiya6175]

@Washu Ken we are Bantu people and we are strong people you failed to wipe us out like you did to the Australian aborigines and the west Indians.we are bantu we are strong we are muiltiplying faster and we are the future. Get lost

[@mandladladla1108]

What are you Saying about South Africa?

[@lillianmhanduu]

@ moron we dont need whites in zim

[@exempligratia101]

17:16 I really enjoyed Father Kennedy’s insight. His voice is pure asmr. He knew too well what has happened and what will happen. He certainly lived a good life regardless.

[@RJ-he2ns]

"We hope our children will have a better future." The children in Zimbabwe probably have it worse than adults did in Rhodesia.

[@micio_meow]

Definitelly, from a first word country to one of the worst. Now they are free to starve

[@robertmhetu8997]

that would be amazing to believe but the fact is we are doing better than ever now that your kind is gone an NEVER coming back :)

[@tvs9978]

Nopre3. The children who are now adults and parents themselves now have access to their land to farm and build wealth for themselves and their future grandkids

[@StreetDrilla]

@@micio_meow salisbury was first world (it was like that since the british colonial days, not built by independent white ruled rhodesia), 75% of rhodesia was governed with martial law and most people (black people) were poor, white people (some people) were rich.

[@davidturcotte5677]

They should curse their fathers for ruining the country of their birth. This is the lesson: Don't trust or listen to Socialists. Starvation is what you get.

[@CH-fo3pw]

Remember the saying. Come to Rhodesia and see the Zimbabwe ruins. Then it changed to come to Zimbabwe and see the Rhodesian Ruins. No truer a saying.

[@courtenayvermeulen6752]

So true! "They" say the Bantu's built them, but I've seen the Zimbabwe Ruins, and they look strikingly similar to the Peruvian "cloud people" ruins. Just something I've noticed.

[@tvs9978]

@@courtenayvermeulen6752 you people tried for years to disclaim that GREAT Zim was built by Africans. You're superiority copez makes you refuse to recognize the facts proved by archeology

[@abeautifulheart]

@@courtenayvermeulen6752 delusional bitter

[@kingarthur5110]

Zimbabwe: what happens when you virtue-signal so hard you kick of decades of ethnic cleansing, famine, communist dictatorship and economic collapse.

[@charliemartin4392]

My grandma always warned me, "be careful of what you wish for, cause you just might get it". I've met 2 families from Zimbabwe. One the last was born around time of the switch and the other before and both moved to America. Both said life would've been better if it stayed Rhodesia. That's why families are fleeing in droves. I live in little old Kentucky and met 2 families in 6 months. Just saying

[@chiedzabvundura7383]

Are the two families white? Coz no black would say their lies would be better if it had stayed rhodesia unless they had no idea what happened to black people in Rhodesia 🙄

[@charliemartin4392]

Black and ended up moving to America. Facts

[@charliemartin4392]

And plus, how'd Mugabe work out? How'd he stay in power for so long? What kind of violence came with his ascension to power? Why are they asking farmers to come back? Don't worry I'll wait. Yeah, the whites should've played their cards different and included more in the decision making process. Yes people would like to get f'd by their own mind I guess. Tribalism is and always will divide the world. No one will learn. At least the ones that can use their power to make a real difference. The ones that want power always use the black vs white ploy. Ceasar said it best, divide and conquer

[@chiedzabvundura7383]

Please believe me when I say this..what we have now is better than being under white rule and being segregated in MY country...the growing pains are a bit much but I would NEVER wish for Rhodesia for any reason. I will never change my mind on this and I'm not sorry

[@charliemartin4392]

You can believe whatever you want. Growing pains? Slaughter is growing pains. It's your country so want what you want. How's the economy? And how long it been? The foot on the countries neck isn't white, I can tell you that.

[@terrehautehouse]

Well how did that Zimbabwe thing work out??

[@moedoe188]

Aren’t you a Jew?

[@SymphonyBrahms]

@@moedoe188 Aren't you a bigot?

[@glendodds4926]

In this post I am merely going to take a trip down memory lane. I was born in Rhodesia’s capital, Salisbury, a spacious and attractive place whose skyline boasted several multi-storey buildings, of which the highest was the 20-storey Livingstone House in Jameson Avenue. From time to time, as a family, we used to drive up the kopje, a large rocky hill on the fringe of the city and enjoy the panoramic views. We also had some wonderful times at Mermaid’s Pool. More frequently, however, we headed out to Lake Mcilwaine for weekends and some of my happiest recollections of my childhood are of zooming around the lake on my father’s small motorboat. Other happy memories are of holidays at Lake Kyle, and during one of them we visited the ruins of Great Zimbabwe, the fascinating former capital of a powerful Shona kingdom-with extensive trading links-which enjoyed its heyday in the 14th century. We also had a holiday in the Matopos National Park where, among other things, I visited World’s View and saw the grave of Cecil John Rhodes and the monument honouring the ill-fated members of the Shangani Patrol which was wiped out during the Matabele War of 1893. Moreover, in the Matopos I also visited the grave of Mzilikazi (who was born in Zululand) and founded the warlike Matabele kingdom which dominated life between the Limpopo and Zambezi for much of the 19th century. I also remember going on holiday to Hot Springs and the beautiful Chimanimani Mountains where we visited Bridal Veil Falls- unfortunately, owing to the Rhodesian Bush War, my parents never took me to the country’s most famous natural wonder, Victoria Falls. I also spent wonderful times on my grandparents’ farm in Matabeleland, and sometimes arrived there after travelling to Bulawayo on the overnight train from Salisbury. Bulawayo was Rhodesia’s second largest city and my memories of time spent there include a visit to the attractive museum where the most eye-catching exhibit was a large stuffed elephant that dominated the entrance foyer. In short, I shall always treasure my memories of growing up between the Limpopo and the Zambezi.

[@bobboo540]

Thank you for sharing your memories.

[@karidehnavi4737]

Me too, such memories.

[@jajarev]

This brings me back to life in Zim before we had to leave in 2019, gosh how much I miss that beautiful yet scarred country

[@djharto4917]

Why did you have to leave in 2019? Why not sooner if you had to leave ?

[@jajarev]

@@djharto4917 Because late 2018 it got really bad, so we started the process of getting visas and tying up loose ends etc.

[@DaughterofAlbion]

The white Doctor was breathtakingly noble. What an erudite, honourable man.

[@Patrick-vh5nr]

Daughter of Albion I really don’t know about that. I think he’s a traitor. I read an account of a soldier who discovered familys slaughtered bodies in a farmstead, pot still boiling when they got there, with a baby’s body inside. I have read many more horrific accounts of this type until I could read no more. This man by his actions supported these atrocities. From all accounts he was likely murdered after independence by those he supported. I know a family who told me what happened to another priest and his wife and their little daughters who stayed on to help the poor. It’s horrific. In war you must choose a side. This man didn’t and he eased his conscience by doing so but may well of helped a sick terrorist recover. Then maybe that same terrorist with an RPG blasts a farmers Land Rover and rapes and tortures the family to death for fun. This sort of event was not an uncommon occurrence. If you think being a priest excuses his cowardly behaviour, well would you feel the same about the priests in NI that aided the IRA? Maybe when it could be your children killed the priests words would sound less noble. He hasn’t the courage to think, he blinds himself with emotion while Rhodesians families on isolated farms are the victims of those he nurtured. I say he has blood on his hands and I cannot understand why you would celebrate him.

[@purrfekt]

@@Patrick-vh5nr I think I'd rather trust the judgment of a doctor who helps those who don't even share the same skin color as himself and speaks from his own personal experience. As opposed to an internet warrior of no apparent merit who condemns others based on what he reads.

[@mduduzindlovu5196]

@@Patrick-vh5nr Mugabe could have later failed but during the war, every black person was supporting him, and Nkomo, the Rhodesian army was evil and barbaric. They occupied Zimbabwe and brutalised innocent people, hence a lot of people joined the guerrillas, they actually fuelled the war and when its war you crush your enemy and whoever supports them or else you get crushed. They never thought blacks could rise and defend themselves and that was their downfall. The current situation will one day change but never again shall one oppress another just because of skin colour. Never in Zimbabwe.

[@Lone.Wolf1976]

mduduzi ndlovu - What a load of shit. Blacks in Rhodesia were just fine, in fact, they had the highest standard of living in all Africa, good schools, good hospitals, good infra structure, and a prosperous economy, until the western world betrayed Rhodesia, they perceived them as a rising power, a threat they had to get rid of; and they were agitated by communists, playing on black supremacy, racism, hatred, and envy of their fellow Rhodesian white man, not patriotism or facts. Its the same tribalist behavior everywhere, they never tried to have a multi ethnic and just society in Rhodesia because despite being of different tribes, language and nationalities, they were majority and blacks see ALL blacks as kindred. It was all about usurping a modern wealthy nation they did not build, but but could have been part of and could have enjoyed the benefits of it. Whats funny is, wherever they are minority elsewhere in the world, they push for "diversity" and constantly call everyone "racists and supremacists" and feel like they are special, justified, and entitled to rob you of your goods, your rights and your life. By their fruits you shall know them: look at what Rhodesia was and what Zimbabwe now is, look at every place blacks are majority, they are destroyers of civilization not builders. For a real Wakanda, check out Haiti.

[@johnburnett5377]

Naive dogooder, like all the rest.

[@billygrey8087]

Ah yes. The media painting Mugabe as a hero and basically disregarding the actual facts...some things never change

[@cjryan88]

its much worse now

[@Myndir]

@@cjryan88 "Who controls the past controls the future."

[@kaiseradolphushanshohenzol4064]

Rhodesia: *turns to Zimbabwe* Geography now: we will go through alphabetical order Zimbabwe: *damn you Mugabe*

[@TheStapleGunKid]

By 2006, Zimbabwe had the shortest average lifespans in the world. It was 37 years for men and 34 for women. Just think of that. A nation in 2006 had average lifespans of under 40 years. Zimbabwe absolutely wrecked everything Rhodesia accomplished.

[@MA-go7ee]

I guess they should've just kept being slaves then. I assume that's the choice you'd make right? You must have a servile nature.

[@lt2760]

Well the life expectancy in Zimbabwe now is 61.2 years and will keep improving

[@TheDerpty]

Until the your Chinese overlords tell you otherwise @@lt2760

[@Ken_oh545]

​@lt2760 thanks to ARVs?

[@abeautifulheart]

do tell us who brought the disease that cause the livespan to be that low. Sounds like a familiar playbook - and you bragging about death, shame on you

[@daisysamuel3288]

This makes me so sad. Imagine having all that hope for absolutely nothing in return. We could have been the greatest nation of all time but here we stand broken.

[@lMr2Crazyl]

@Federal Bureau Of Investigation based response

[@Priest92]

@Federal Bureau Of Investigation hello? based department?

[@dennispicone6801]

Well I am not sure about all time. However, it could have been one of the Southern African strongholds without doubt. However, with little or no planning THIS is the result.

[@WalrusWinking]

@@dennispicone6801 You mean with the entire world against a small army? Yet the small army's K/D STILL was higher. lmao

[@ValoriumStudios]

@@Priest92 KZbin deleted the account, what did he say lol

[@alidadebruyn3560]

I was born and bred in Rhodesia. It breaks my heart to see how my beloved country has become. A once best country is now a waisted country

[@ivanlarin86]

A strange thing... I was born in 1986 in USSR and got acquainted with the history of Rhodesia comparetively recently. It hurts...

[@007wellie]

Was it ever a best country

[@Constant_Of_Morality]

​@007wellie compared to what happened to them with Mugabe, Yes definitely

[@cestmoifu1406]

was never your land thats why it doesnt exist anymore@@Constant_Of_Morality

[@npcfigureathletedawnirish691]

Much like many of our once beautiful cities is America. Same thing happening here.

[@stephen2000306]

I think there is something very special about Zimbabwe. I can see why whites very much wanted to make that place their permanent home. It just looks like a garden of eden, very cozy. A paradise.

[@leonardmashala9178]

Dude ! The landscapes, game reserves , mountains, waterfalls and rivers in that country are so beautiful. The White man thought he could have all that for himself. It was like a paradise for few White minority, descendants of colonialists. Many of these devils are so heartbroken that they lost the land , thanks to Mugabe who could see through their bullshit !

[@leonardmashala9178]

Hold on, how do you give something that was never yours to begin with? Haha White mentality is laughable !

[@persuadesvosve166]

amen to that

[@persuadesvosve166]

vlad its ur imagination.. nd ur exageration actual we doing good

[@colonelcrossfire8268]

It was an actual country with infrastructure and a standard of living. Boy have times changed.

[@leocozijn2326]

1979: "Come to Rhodesia and visit the Zimbabwe ruins". 2017: "Come to Zimbabwe and visit the Rhodesia ruins".

[@tapfumamuganiwa9510]

true

[@greasyflight6609]

I had relatives from Rhodesia. They left for Australia late 1970's. My Grandmothers cousin was a Doctor there. She told me that he served half a year military... half year civilian. I remember her telling me that Nkhomo rather than Mugabe would have been a preferable leader for post Rhodesian rule. BBC every morning together as a child,

[@zachhoward9099]

Never understood the British lack of will in terms of backing Dr Nhkomo

[@1313tennisman]

@@zachhoward9099 its pretty simple geopolitics. Nkomo was the Soviet man, Mugabe the Chinese man.

[@ajs41]

@@1313tennisman The British preferred the Chinese man? I thought both Soviets and Chinese were anti-British at that time.

[@dreamdiction]

@@ajs41 Nkomo was never a communist, communism is unnatural for Africans, they are instinctive capitalists, Britain supported the marxist Mugabe because marxism is designed to make everyone equally poor and equally powerless under a one world government, the same is happening in every European country today.

[@kylekanuck3631]

"I don't know how long we can do this, but I won't give up." The true spirit of Anglo culture that still permeates throughout the commonwealth and beyond.

[@everythingviral972]

I think that's just basic human spirit.

[@ScottTheBot07]

@@everythingviral972 all humans have the British spirit. Russians may not for example (I don’t know much about Russia tbh)

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

Except they did you idiot. They couldn't keep abusing human beings as virtual slaves, fuck off nazi

[@JDJoeil]

LMAO. The true spirit of Anglo culture indeed: "I don't know how long we can do this, but I won't give up." - While playing FUCKING GOLF

[@stephen4121]

@@ScottTheBot07 Russians make the British look like people who give up at the first opportunity. Nicely slipped bit of racism btw

[@LboroWick]

Can’t say Rhodesian leaders did themselves any favours with the way they treated the black people and their dignity. It’s a worst shame to see Zimbabwean leaders do worse to its citizens and destroy a country with such potential. The loss of shame in being incompetent is the route all failed and failing countries follow.

[@michaelbrownlee9497]

Um, The rhodesian blacks were educated, doctors, lawyers, economists, etc. part of the common wealth. Once it collapsed, the african girls set up schools for the children. Life goes on.

[@4exgold]

Mugabe was apparently quite accommodating and willing to reconcile with the white population at first. Sadly with the economic mismanagement and corruption, the country was in bits by the end of the 90s. There were the farm invasions and killings in the early 2000s and that was the final nail in the coffin. Mnangagwa aint much better than old Bob it seems.

[@desertdetroiter428]

The Zimbabwean leaders had good teachers.

[@abc-oq7dt]

​@@desertdetroiter428soviets

[@desertdetroiter428]

@@abc-oq7dt nope.

[@Againstdhawa]

back to square one

[@unapprovedtruth7116]

Back to ground zero

[@692ALBANNACH]

Just like the KM going back to year zero!

[@user-jr2ue9nu6y]

The thinking is square 1 is what is actually wanted. We forcing Square ones to like running water and vehicles. Aeroplanes. Electricity when they been nomadic hunter gatherers.

[@dudeman5234]

Max Salusky ,black Africans stand up with great pride

[@sevenscounty409]

dude man we don't have tym for ignorant neonazis who still believe nonsense like eugenics and white privilege

[@RetroGod1982]

Little did they know the nightmare that lay ahead with Mugabe and ZANU-PF. Short of Rhodesia never existing as a colony, there was only one real moderate solution that could have avoided war prior to UDI or ended it prior to Mugabe’s power grab in 1980 if recognised by the West. Power sharing in 1979 between Smith and Abel Muzorewa would have been a more palatable solution for saving Zimbabwe-Rhodesia and promoting better racial cohesion and harmony; as well as better cooperation with their neighbours under a recognised newly formed government. Mugabe failed to provide any of those things throughout his autocratic rule and the country remained economically and socially fractured with inequality still evident among the very people he claimed to represent. A political merging of the old and new would have allowed for stability, a voice for all citizens and a certainty of their place and role in society for a new Zimbabwe-Rhodesia. The international community should have approved the changes made to accommodate a moderate government that would have facilitated a peaceful transition to majority rule on terms not harmful to settlers. Declaring the 1979 election illegal and recognising Marxist militant factions as a legitimate political voice for the future affairs of the country had sealed its fate. Amnesty should not have been granted to guerrilla forces who clearly intimidated and swayed votes throughout the country against moderate candidates in 1980. The initial 1979 election may not have been as representative of the people as was desired but would have acted as a cornerstone for sweeping changes throughout the decade. Black majority rule and freedom from a racist system was inevitable, even under a Smith government if it had survived, as it would have modernised in line with a post-colonial world and re-evaluated its wider role to end alienation and isolation under sanctions. Marxist forces applied pressure, but changes came from sanctions and the desire for legitimacy and recognition. Efforts were eventually made but it came too little and too late. The power shift was too swift for a country that was ill prepared for an imperial decoupling after years of civil war. The departure may have seemed like a smooth transition but the economic decline after years of sanctions, poor education and a skills shortage would hit Zimbabwe hard. The steady deterioration was a direct result of Mugabe's irresponsible and illogical policies that quickly led to a crisis. Interracial harmony never existed even after Mugabe came to power and he would leverage support for farm seizures to deflect from his own failings. Eventually the newly independent state's colonial infrastructure would be largely ruined through neglect. There will be no realistic recovery after Zimbabwe's inability to maintain and rehabilitate the existing infrastructure since the country became immersed in economic and political turmoil in the 1990's. There is no new investment and existing services are inefficient, costly, and unreliable. Defiant and unapologetic, Mugabe had crafted an image that cannot be separated from Zimbabwe itself. As all attempts to power share came too late, added with pressure from radical Marxist-Leninist militants and economic sanctions, then the most favourable option with hindsight would have been to argue the case with Britain over the fate of settlers without declaring UDI. The UK ignored the issue of a smooth phased transition. Unlike other colonies, Rhodesia had a longstanding and permanent white population who were expected to have no role in the future of a land that they called their home. Forced repatriation was not an option considering that most settlers had been born there over several generations. The UK had considered nothing but its own interests in washing its hands of the former colony, and as usual British mismanagement caused terrible repercussions by leaving no other option for the settlers other than UDI. Decolonisation was not possible when there was an old, settled and permanent colonist population that would effectively be ignored and left behind. Mediation, integration and a power sharing coalition was required before the UK relinquished her burden and her permanent footprint it left behind with its imperial children. Britain needed to invest in the future of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia by maintaining an agreed presence there during the 1960's to facilitate a peaceful and equal coexistence between its peoples, and to build a new diplomatic relationship based on historic ties and commonwealth membership for trade; something that can no longer exist within present day Zimbabwe. There was no responsible transition on both occasions. The issue with the illegally declared Smith government of the early 1960's was its racist policies that prevented equality among the Black and White population. If Smith had taken a more forward-thinking approach to ensure that the country, its industry and the future of white settlers was not in question, then he would have realised that Rhodesia couldn't survive without Black integration and equality. Adopting an inclusive nationalist idea would have nurtured a new identity were everyone worked towards the same goals to strengthen an inclusive nation and to support the interests of the people regardless of race or culture. The balance of power had to be on an equal footing if it was ever to survive from the onset of decolonisation. For the UK to expect a new Zimbabwe to succeed without support was deplorable. Smith’s fear that the country's infrastructure would collapse under an inexperienced black government was understandable, and no preparations had been made to educate and introduce a skilled black workforce into specialist areas where none existed. The UK attempted a hasty retreat as soon as it could and its actions caused fear and anger at how irresponsible it was behaving among the people who felt betrayed and irrelevant, like a living relic of the past from a country that no longer wanted them. The UK hadn't fully understood the implications of wrenching the colonies away from British administration and India was a chilling example of what could go wrong. I feel that it was the UK's moral duty to attempt to maintain some sort of order and a phased plan to enable Zimbabwe to succeed. Mugabe has raped Zimbabwe of its potential and discarded it for his own personal gain. I feel that the UK has a lot to answer for and that decolonisation couldn't have been fully achieved in the time scale that it had expected. It should have listened and worked with both parties to enable a responsible transition through a power sharing agreement. Mugabe was the result of a failure to communicate and understand the implications during decolonisation.

[@tackies100]

Well said. Very well said. Thanks.

[@tylerperkinson1677]

Probably the best comment in the comments section.

[@davidturcotte5677]

Thank you for the concise history lesson. What a waste of such a beautiful country.

[@julieellis277]

I lived in Zimbabwe following its independence and what you say is spot on. Thank you for highlighting all of this.

[@Ray-tg1sj]

This is one of the saddest wars of the 20th century. An oppressed people fought against their oppressors, not realizing the misery they'd endured was only a taste of the misery they'd win. There was no hero leading their people to salvation on either side. A diseased government fighting against the next diseased government.

[@icmull]

Although, if Rhodesia had won. Its likely like South Africa the Apartheid would have ended amd theyd be in a lot better position. The trick is you never, never, never, ever let a socialist have any amount of power. A socialist with the best intentions is worse than a racist who believes in the free market with the worst intentions. By their very nature socialists are lazy parasites. Whereas the boers were extremely hard working. I dont like Boers we have a lot where Im from. But you cant deny that they work incredibly hard.

[@frontiernerfelopments7959]

@@icmull I'm certain the strangulating international sanctions had nothing to do with Zimbabwe's economic downturn.

[@Matzieu1]

@@frontiernerfelopments7959 at what point do you think Africans should accept responsibility for their future? No world body has sanctioned Zimbabwe based on race. Quite the contrary, the West hopes Africa prospers.

[@Based_location]

Africans weren’t even oppressed, how is free education and abundance of food oppression ?

[@ComplainingIsRecreation]

At what point? That point will NEVER come. They will always fail and they will always blame. It will never ever change because white people enable it themselves, although the lie blames white people many whites still love it because it still puts them at the center of the universe - and it's a very comforting lie to the non-whites despite the fact it's actually the cause of the problems they need comfort about to start with.

[@mvail313]

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

[@Unfoldedwarrior]

As a zimbabwean its hard to watch this.. i was born 7yrs later

[@Gordons1888]

That's a shame, if only you were born earlier

[@exposingracisminamerica8042]

Better be poor and free then live under a smelly pig...

[@Gordons1888]

@@exposingracisminamerica8042 yes, except the Zimbabweans aren't free at all

[@Catstro]

@@exposingracisminamerica8042 A Zimbabwean 100 trillion dollar note is worth U.S 40 cents. Imagine thinking malnutrition and poverty is a better alternative than having to deal with someone's negative opinion.

[@imhatepie]

@@exposingracisminamerica8042 Really? How much experience do you have with starvation?

[@markvick6138]

same old left wing press , what a great place it become

[@larcen6206]

They still called them "Terrorists" instead of "Rebels" so stop crying

[@mac-strobot7655]

@@larcen6206 if you watched the docu fully you’d know he uses the word terrorists because of a government agent that is keeping watch on what he says

[@mboroyako6413]

A perfect example of being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[@ungrateful-66]

My maternal Grandmother’s family came from Rhodesia. It’s a hell hole now. Went to high school with a bunch of other Dutch South Africans in South Florida.

[@agbokad5k71]

Your opinion of Zim today doesn't matter. They got their land. And they gonna be alright.

[@johnburman966]

I did a thesis in 1970 about employment in Rhodesia. There was the perfect formula for insurgents. Good education but no chance of a job. I could see it was futile to resist history. I have no political bias, it's sad to see what the winners have done with their country.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Is there any possibility you could post the text of your thesis? I would be interested in reading it.

[@johnburman966]

@@gregorymalchuk272 Thanks for your interest. It was for my architectural degree and for what was called a 'Rural to urban transitional training centre.' The theme was that as rural people arrived in the urban areas (Harare) they needed skills that would get them a job, so it would be a place where for a few months they could acquire some training, and knowledge of urban living (not to be prey to the wrong people). This was probably out of white man's guilt syndrome...but I did mean well. University of Cape Town does not have any information going back to those days...I don't know why, it's like I never existed as far as they are concerned. I'm old now and that was in my life a long time ago.

[@michaelbrownlee9497]

@@johnburman966 the money masters.

[@JDN9552]

Sounds like the USA now.

[@johnburman966]

@@JDN9552 I would be surprised if there is enough backbone for insurgency in USA. More likely the collapse into drugs and crime.

[@SuperOldShows]

So sad, for both the black and white people of Rhodesia

[@vladanlausevic1733]

That is really the case :/

[@sakurakou2009]

their is no white people of africa they are all outsiders

[@jacomuller9197]

5:43 Marks the reason why there was a war to even begin with. They might've called themselves Rhodesians but they were British by behaviour.

[@mohnish7653]

5:40 that guy sold his house to go to South Africa XD imagine his disappointment

[@JayWritesz]

Whoever wrote those subtitles was definitely high on something

[@sheikh745]

Too Kweek Jay very high 😂

[@cdemafa]

Thanks for the documentary such stuff is hard to come by on internet , if u have some more please post.

[@ninny65]

Rhodesia had tribal reservations and allowed native land purchases, Rhodesia in policy was exactly the same as the USA in the Jim Crow era and instead of allowing sanctions to be lifted and the bush war to end, the UN isolated Rhodesia. The fact that the white population who were born there felt like they had to leave because of an invasion and rampant immigration from an invading force (which is against the geneva convention under genocide)

[@ambessaseway5594]

Majority wasn't even born there they were British Working Class Immigrants that wanted uplift their lifestyle by black servants and South Africans Immigrants

[@ambessaseway5594]

@whatsMyNameAgainAgain dummy Matabeleland was a sparsely populated peacful area in the 1800 with less than 500tausend people size of California similar to Botswana, Zimbabwe is now since 2 years self sufficient again with food production and has record high economic growth because of Gold/Lithium/diamonds production. Botswana/Zambia/Malawi/Tanzania/Kenya never had a Civil War the last conflict on their soil was the brutal British invasion do some research

[@GetAssista]

Damn those 70s interviews are heartbreaking. It is perfectly clear that both sides were fighting for their version of better future, for better justice. And it is also clear that the middleground that would've made everyone better off, some kind of a longer and peaceful transition, was not attainable. Cause it's too easy to flare up racial hatred in this setup. The racial war can only escalate and leaves a terrible legacy fucking up any chance for a reconciliation. In the end tens of thousands are dead and everyone else is worse off.

[@hannotn]

You may have to explain to me how white Rhodesians were fighting for "better justice" by defending a regime that denied the majority an equal vote or right to full participation in the electoral system and said they couldn't own homes in certain areas, because I seem too obtuse to comprehend that.

[@GetAssista]

@@hannotn Rhodesians knew what would happen with immediate full electoral participation cause it happened in every African country with mixed population. You get politicians riding racial recentment kicking whites out and ruining the economy for years. Or worse, going through tribal civil wars. On the one hand you get free vote, on the other you get economic hardships. It's easy to hail for abstract "freedom" when you are not the one living there eh

[@hannotn]

@@GetAssista Just like it's easy to say other people's freedom is secondary to your personal comforts and freedoms when you don't have to live as they do.

[@GetAssista]

@@hannotn I see you are beginning to see the symmetry in the sides )

[@hannotn]

@@GetAssista I don't see any symmetry at all. Whites invaded the area, dispossessed the indigenous inhabitants and created a regime that suppressed them and gave them no prospect of equality. No symmetry in that.

[@gerberjoanne266]

After suffering under Rhodesian oppression, the populace in the late 1970s placed their hopes in Mugabe, among others. What a tragedy that turned out to be.

[@yonatandaniyel5640]

Bolshevik Dictator Stalin Mugabe joins the long line of mass murderers and megalomaniacs who ruined their country and made it even worse than before.

[@Valencetheshireman927]

You can thank the UN for that. Ian Smith agreed black majority rule and gave power to a moderate non Marxist, the UN refused to accept it.

[@imcardbored8394]

@@Valencetheshireman927 And then they got Mugabe... What I find crazy is a lot of the black population of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe Rhodesia did not support Zanu or Zapu.

[@5801160052086]

Yeah Zimbabwe is a disaster from the start and just went downhill

[@user-cvbnm]

@@Valencetheshireman927 "Ian Smith agreed black majority rule" Source: pulled from ass

[@rhodes6500]

Totally biased reporting , ask them today just how well their precious liberty has been

[@moteague]

The Holy man has compassion and is a true Christian.

[@mikesmart4917]

Glad to see Zimbabwe is doing do well these days!

[@cantsneedgaming4591]

yeah africa in general IS DOING GREAT

[@CHrisG-ol3ei]

@ mike smart , yes doing so well that they are making more wheel barrows to carry all those trillion dollar notes to get bread from the shops.

[@mikesmart4917]

@@CHrisG-ol3ei 🤣 Although it's tragic 😥 really.

[@trivedymukuze9970]

Which Zimbabwe are you talking about

[@truthasareligion9472]

I loved watching these white people cry about having to leave their homes. and im white.

[@davidwell686]

40 years on can we have an update on black rule? How did it work out?

[@teddymwangi]

they are free not slave's

[@davidwell686]

@@teddymwangi They are just slaves to new group of elites. Same game, new name.

[@Jet-ij9zc]

​@@teddymwangithey weren't slaves and even if you think they were well, they just changed master then

[@sirhakonik6071]

Britain is my second favourite country, being second to the country of my birth. But here, the British media are trying to prove themselves, that they have chosen right by supporting the terrs. Unfortunately, personally I know no mistakes that could be called "right". Rest in Peace Rhodesia

[@neeltheother2342]

What a time it's been With so few friends to turn to What a time it's been When all we did seemed wrong We're trying to put things right But the battle still goes on What a time, what a time it's been - Clem Tholet

[@londonbowcat1]

15:00 behind barbed wire to protect

[@michaelgilliam8804]

those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it.

[@edwardmerriam6970]

As someone who was never given a whole lot of insight into the colonization of Africa and the bloody wars during this period, and struggles, this is invaluable. It gives so much perspective on today. Thank you for this content!

[@akwida]

LOL! European Colonization was the best thing that ever happened to Africans... With exception to the Magreb and Swahililand, they were literally pulled out of the Stone Age...

[@favourchuks8534]

@@akwida You’re wrong 😑 colonization was the worst thing to ever happen to Africans after slavery.

[@UnstoppableEmpire]

@@akwida what an ignorant fool and social out cast low life.

[@tactiti0n]

@@favourchuks8534 Look into who sold them into slavery in the first place, and who ENDED slavery! Its remarkable how ill informed you are.

[@westmax8491]

@@akwida you can't decide what's best of others. If Europe colonialism was good, perhaps independence would not have been asked for.

[@skippy4837]

Rhodesian soldiers> Zimbabwe

[@davidlee8311]

Skippy wrong why did they lose then idiot

[@redneckoperations8190]

They won almost every battle. But lost the war.

[@xc8487]

Rhodesian military operations are the most successful counterinsurgency operations ever. They had kill ratios at one point averaging 80:1. If only the UN had recognized Rhodesia and helped tamp out the communist forces of Mugabe. If there had been peace in Rhodesia it's very possible that reform could have been allowed to happen gradually.

[@xc8487]

M T What are your accomplishments before you critize?

[@stevensparks8335]

He isn't a black commie terr.

[@Briselance]

12:05 Had Rhodesia taken equal care of all its nationals, whites and blacks and others alike, and given them equal consideration and opportunities, Rhodesia would have had better chances. Had Rhodesia also waged an effective propaganda war, it would be still existent today.

[@Vuntermonkey]

I agree propaganda is necessary, looking at the history of the world. Looking at the history of the world, I sadly don't see the other half of your argument has any evidence.

[@ayodejiolowokere1076]

What could they possibly have said? What lies could they have told that they didn't?

[@berwood2001]

So glad it worked out so well for a once great country

[@londonbowcat1]

22:00 I bet they didn't even get reparation

[@Tes-mm5rp]

@@londonbowcat1 These are thieves. Thieves don't get nothing send them back.

[@stephen4121]

@@Tes-mm5rp all land ownership is based on theft. Have a feeling you probably think you should be allowed to keep any properly you have or will have.

[@tris7]

So they replaced British rule with Robert Mugabe?! 🤦‍♂️

[@BigTony-bf5jr]

They replaced Rhodesia with Mugabe

[@Pfsif]

Must be paradise?

[@el_iron_duke]

Rhodesia was independent from Britain after 1965, everything was going well until some nitwits decided to try this thing called Communism.

[@mxgregoly8969]

@@el_iron_duke Ugh us Zimbabweans didn't ask for this to happen to our beautiful country. All we asked for was no corruption and racism, and a country to call our own.

[@connierodrigues1188]

Beautiful country gone to ruins no roads no nothing but pain and suffering God help us

[@bobofthestorm]

"They all think they're all getting houses." Spoilers : They didn't The whites made it hard for ordinary blacks to prosper. The subsequent black regime also made it hard for ordinary blacks to prosper. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[@siksicilian2825]

And since then, Zimbabwe has grown to become the economic power house of the world. With people clamoring to immigrate to this land of prosperity.

[@siksicilian2825]

@Kyle Reese So noble, you should put your money where mouth is an immigrate to your choice of socialist countries. pick any of the current thriving, Utopian, thriving, socialist countries you like.

[@dinisrealm3240]

Sarcastisch eh? Brutish economic embargo embossed on Zimbabwe for well over half a century is to blame

[@manpreetbrar838]

You are thinking of Rwanda

[@Myndir]

@@dinisrealm3240 Rhodesia had economic sanctions too and it wasn't such a failure.

[@kingmufasa8929]

7:05 dreams came true, they all got cars and houses.

[@Rachellese]

Zimbabwe has been abandoned by the world due to leaders. It is the people that suffer and not the leaders. People suffered in Rhodesia but a lot wasn’t documented. It just so sad that this beautiful country will always be at odds.

[@ajs41]

The world can't do anything in Zimbabwe, because if they did they'd be accused of "colonialism".

[@dreamdiction]

2:04 He says "I fought for Britain but today Britain is letting us down badly". In WW2 Rhodesians did not know that the British Government was their real enemy. In WW2 Rhodesians helped the British government so they made their enemy stronger, Rhodesians hoped that by making the British Government stronger, they would earn the protection of the British Government in future, but after WW2 the British Government turned against Rhodesians. Here is the important question - if you make your enemy stronger and your enemy uses that strength to attack you - whose fault is that? It's your own fault because you misjudged your position - that same thing is happening today to people in all European countries who made the mistake of trusting their own government.

[@santonio.holmes]

Rhodesians never die!

[@santonio.holmes]

T50 brownoid spotted! Hyperborean vril cannon engage!

[@saltymonke3682]

Now you got Mugabe with his endless inflation, loooool

[@logiccircuits1257]

He's created more trillionaires than any leader in world history.

[@latinoheat300]

8:00 what an absolute mad lad.

[@roanreeddaily3611]

So heartwarming to watch this then sit back and reflect on what a beacon of democracy this country has become. People are free to say whatever they want or to demonstrate openly against corruption, ( if there was any to demonstrate against...). Unemployment is a thing of the past, wealth and prosperity are for everyone. What a great job the ruling party has done and all accomplished without even the slightest "moment of madness".

[@MusikCassette]

The shortcomings of Zimbabwe does not lessen the crimes of Rhodesia. Your sarcasm here is quite disgusting.

[@tactiti0n]

@@MusikCassette The shortcomings of Zimbabwe are innumerable. Its present is squalor. Its past, one of prosperity and opportunity far greater and grander than any of the cockamamie crimes you believe Rhodesia and its people of committing. That which you were taught is the disgusting part.

[@MusikCassette]

@@tactiti0n you mean the prosperity of a small minoriy with the opportunity to exploit Millions? Why do you even think it was called Rhodesia?

[@MusikCassette]

@B0omer96 false symetry.

[@Rose-g]

@@tactiti0n it was opportunity while segregating one particular race , there are many atrocities against our people committed during that time , and it’s never reported . If we mess up let us mess up , but don’t make it look like Europe was doing a great job by the Africans . It really hurts to hear the ignorance of priveledge when oppression and mistreatment does not turn it well for them . Even after independence the country was never ours in so many ways ,

[@LoderMike]

They all lived happily ever after

[@Rymzo1]

If more privileged white men had the same mindset as Father Kennedy back then, the world would have known peace as far as international race relations are concerned. Robert Mugabe single-handedly ruined Zimbabwe's economy thriving at its prime. As educated and exposed as he was had he continued implementing economic policies in the interests of his people as opposed to becoming a stubborn tyrant, Zimbabwe would have been an African star country. For more information check out NewAfrica's YT channel. They have a good video of Mugabe and his fall from grace as freedom fighter to foolishness.

[@Drewaps928]

True, Zimbabwe has its issues - no secret, the country is a mess right now. I however, don't think I would have preferred colonial rule to what is going on in ZIM right now. Why should I be a second class citizen in my own country??? Colonialism had its demons and very few people will want to be reminded of those demons. I would rather suffer , but be liberated. It is time AFRICA in general figured a way to solve its own problems without relying on the WEST or Asia! We know this is no easy road, but one day it will happen. In my language (Ndebele), there is a saying, "Okungapheliyo kuyahlola"; basically meaning that everything will eventually come to an end. So, it may look gloomy right now, but I am optimistic AFRICA will get it right some day. Who ever thought that Rome will fall one day or saw Germany losing in WWII?. Time will tell.

[@BadNewsBrown_]

Best comment I've read thus far

[@j2b348]

sitshela : keeping dreaming brother and enjoy your suffering!!!!

[@obiechan8994]

What’s good when being a first-class citizen is worse than being a second-class citizen, lol

[@CHrisG-ol3ei]

That day maybe hundreds of years away, never mind you have all the land back now, whoops no actually Mugabe and family has all the land and you have starvation and freedom , But that’s ok.

[@victorsawyers6227]

@@j2b348keep crying u got sent back to Europe womp womp

[@eliasmasiriva2778]

Whatever the state Zimbabwe is in today, it's definitely faaar much better than in Rhodesia...living in crowded keeps like animals, no entitlement to any land of our own, special and spacious geographical locations, jobs, schools etc being reserved for whites only, blacks were chased by dogs if they were found even walking in the city pavements...to mention but a few, colonisation was more than diabolic. Today, even though the economy is shaky, we own our land, we own and run businesses, we are educated, we rule our destiny. There's no country without its problems, some are more than others, we will solve whatever problems we have in our own way and will work for a better Zimbabwe nomatter how long it will take. I will choose Zimbabwe over Rhodesia anytime, and I will do it a million times again!!

[@Offshoreorganbuilder]

So, it's not true then, that Zimbabwe is a basket case of a country, having been ruined by the likes of Mugabe? I am guessing that you live there, and must know, first-hand?

[@tylerfreal6472]

thoughts on Gukurahundi??

[@markgibson5994]

Obviously one of the connected comrades feasting on the spoils…. Shame on you

[@wallacebanda7379]

this is eye opening.this is different from what i was taught in school.zimbabwe is quite rich in history.but is filled with flaws.

[@johnburman966]

The "victim" and "rescuer" game is being played out in Britain and USA now. History is being rewritten with racism as main theme. The victims are never responsible for their fate, its always someone else keeping them down.

[@Johnnydazguy]

Interesting historical documentary

[@swagonmydick7084]

This is the future of the white race wherever it is found.

[@asareboakye]

dont be a sore loser, ur words don't mean anything. empty words. go get some sleep. you probably are an offspring of those racist bigots who thought they could dominate the black man. well i have news for u; you failed dumbass

[@jackaroo1710]

Interesting when one sees the resulting chaos and starvation under the leader of choice. Now they have got what they wanted - LIVE WITH IT. Goodbye Rhodesia - Hello Zimbabwean Hell on earth!

[@kundaimudzingwa5071]

eye opening. the simplicity and historical accuracy is astonishing, to a certain extent of course!

[@worldwildlife4697]

i loved the song. whats is the name

[@k0iiiii]

10:15 i know our country has gone to shit but honestly i felt that soldiers pain and understood that they did what they did to free this country

[@cjryan88]

sorry they were terrorists kill inacent womam and children is something a soldier doesnt do

[@davidturcotte5677]

From "free" to the toilet in only ten years. Wow.

[@NkululekoMkastosSibanda]

Turns out ZImbabweans were already literate as of 1978, for those who argue that Mugabe educated anyone

[@heavenhelp1982]

Long before that, my friend. My folks knew many, many educated black people out there. More and more schools and community colleges were being built until Britain stuck its nose in Rhodesia's business and imposed sanctions. Majority rule was inevitable but it should not have gone down the way it did, with war and all the mess that followed. Mugabe and Nkomo's greed ruined what could have been

[@Knightrem]

The funny thing is, blacks in Algeria and Tunisia are much better educated as well, with both of those counties being under French rule for quite some time.

[@The_Ballo]

Yeah, then taught them Communism

[@grandtorino7709]

It’s so sad to see an occupied rhodesia

[@Mr-Damage]

About 10 years ago my dad and I opened up a 20 foot shipping container that was put on our property in Australia from a bloke he knew ' somewhere in Africa ", this bloke passed away but before he did he told my dad he could keep the container and its contents.... long story short when we opened it it was choc full front to back top to bottom full of cash. Alas our joy was shortl lived when we realised it was half moldy Zimbabwean notes. Took us a few weeks to burn it off in a 44 gallon drum.

[@houseofhohwa5269]

5:40 "Thank you Timothy, You shouldnt have opened that one very stupid of you. But its alright"

[@lambethlongshanks4791]

Was wondering who else heard that. Awful.