8 AMAZING New Discoveries In Elden Ring DLC!

[@gonzalobenavides4691]

"Avoid the boss spamming the dialogue" Meanwhile Igon on every retry: CURRRRRRRRRRRSEEEEEEEEE YOUUU BAYLEEEEEEEEE

[@genericcatgirl]

Meanwhile Midra: THE DEPTHS OF YOUR FOOLISHNESSSSSSSS

[@cromptank]

I love how he bursts it out within 5 milliseconds of grazing his sign. His fury shows up before his form.

[@Rusty_Spy]

Meanwhile Mesmer: Those stripped of the grace of gold shall all meet death in the embrace of Mesmer's flame

[@joels5150]

“I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella…” If you don’t want to be taunted by boss dialogue, I believe the solution is to, *checks notes* GitGud scrub…

[@CthulhuianBunny]

“I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella, and I have never known defeat.”

[@ShadowProject01]

Those ghost flames sorcerers in the catacombs might be the Deathrite Priests that once rode the Deathrite birds.

[@RegalBlob]

God, that fight would either be an absolute spectacle or the most miserable thing since Bed of Chaos 😂

[@BaronCreel]

Them holding the dead babies reminds me suddenly of D's armor.

[@ramoraid]

​@@BaronCreelI always speculated that the origin of D's curse is the mother of the deathbirds.

[@pillarmenn1936]

@@BaronCreel I assumed those sorcerers were of similar stock to D. Perhaps conjoined twins?

[@blizzardgaming7070]

​@@ramoraidthe twinbird being related to the wearers of the twinned set, seems kinda obvious now you mention it.

[@yoshidasenpai3250]

One neat detail is that the omen curse is linked to soul rather than body otherwise we would be able to use mohgs shackle on radhan which we can't.

[@Aldoz]

Doesn't the shackles work on fake Mohg and fake Morgotts aswell

[@stephanie_jjb]

​@@Aldoz yeah but considering they are presumably of one mind, the fake constructs probably share the same soul

[@eprimchad2576]

Does the shackle work on them specifically because theyre omen or is it just made for the individual person?

[@NoChylDyl]

If the curse isnt linked to the body why does consort radahn have horns?🤔

[@killablue1279]

Fromsoft: oops we forgot to add that in lol

[@AneggoctopuS]

The Lamenter part just blew my mind. Does that mean Fire Giants are actually the ruler of the previous age?

[@deazee2288]

Most likely, Marika pretty much achieved Godhood and decided to erase as much world history as possible

[@LarsCaesar]

Been thinking the reason their god is "the fell" would be because it was already fallen the age before Marika's

[@junoglrr9119]

fire giants praying to the sun god. the sun is their god. something that was always there since the beginning

[@damienmcneff7715]

Recall that Fire Giants chased the drakes from the mountaintops and that they had the Fell God within them. Placidusax’s god had fled by this point, leaving a power vacuum, a vacuum the giants likely took advantage of. Another possible connections for the Lamenter is that Giants grow horns on their back, The “Mother of all Crucible horns” according to the talisman description

[@genericcatgirl]

@@LarsCaesar "Fell" is often used to describe something evil, and many of the item descriptions call it an "evil god", likely due to Golden Order propaganda

[@AppliedGats]

That ghost flame sorcerer baby looks a lot like d’s twinned armor pose. I bet it’s some kind of death symbolism. Reminds me of the bridge babies in death stranding maybe. A stillborn child is a catalyst to call death magic.

[@galemisoki6320]

Nice correlation, could be..along with some inspiration for the iron abductors?

[@andrewpivo2204]

It's so sad some of the best bosses didn't get neither cutscene nor dialogue, but this cut lines are fire, would've liked if they added them back

[@AALion2004]

They should they have a few updates and patches planned for elden ring hopefully they give the bosses an opening cutscene or dialogues

[@draw2death421]

Are they really the best bosses? Ive heard Bayle and Messmer be called best bosses of the dlc but not these 2 women.

[@andrewpivo2204]

@@draw2death421 yeah, I may have exaggerated a bit here, but look, Bayle doesn't have a cutscene (he has igon tho), and in comparison to dancing lion rellana is better imo and it wouldn't hurt if we had a cutscene and spoken line . Yet, I totally agree that messmer and Bayle are absolute best bosses of the dlc. Radahn had the potential, his 1st phase is fire but 2nd is just too much

[@Lustig_0]

One REALLY cool parallel I found in the Radahn fight was that in the lore Radahn had always idolized godfrey and fashioned his armor in Serosh's image. In godfrey's first phase serosh is hanging off godfrey's back with this flowing translucent hair, and you know who else has flowing translucent glowing hair, who hangs on the back of someone? Right, miquella and radahn. Not only that, but Serosh was said to quell godfrey's lust for battle, and in the phase transition in Radahn's fight, he looks like hes bouta go ape shit on you, but miquella comes and hops on his back and re-centers him or refocuses him, sort of like how serosh does for Godfrey.

[@setsunaes]

well, Promised consort Radahn surely go ape shit upon us on his second phase.

[@theoutergod8666]

Except it is the opposite and goes absolutely ape-shit on us in the second phase. Some people even pointed out that Radahn is more reserved and sportsman-like in the first phase, but once Miquellester hugs him, he loses his shit and goes bananas.

[@pontusliljeblad]

Cool find! Ty

[@jacoblloyd3049]

this also hearkens back to berserk when Shierke pulls Guts back from the brink of madness and losing himself to his armor/the beast of darkness

[@badgoosegin]

Maybe Mida’s head would’ve had a similar effect as the stone hearts and Lamenter form, except with frenzied flame aspect?

[@mmyr8ado.360]

If it's his Lord of Frenzied Flame form, I'd imagine ther would be a lot of Dead Cells cosplayers invading other players.

[@Kallizk]

that's something i would 100% use, maybe they'll release a final patch with some of that cut stuff.

[@tritojean7549]

Idk would more bet on a lantern that shoot frenzied flame

[@imannam]

Could be similar to the Dragon Head Stone in that you only need to take off your helmet instead of your whole outfit to use it

[@masque9446]

@@Kallizk they won't...sadly with these games, Fromsoftware always ends up cutting [what seems like it would be] some of the coolest/best content in the entire game. Sad to see.

[@AlsoMeowskivich]

You silly, Midra's head wasn't cut, it was pulled off.

[@SirSaladAss]

Tee-hee

[@Afroz10x]

He means the item being cut from the game and not his head

[@imannam]

​@@Afroz10x it's a joke.

[@SurrealiamPrime]

@@Afroz10xwooooosh

[@bobbywalker2980]

​@@SurrealiamPrime 2 people liked the comment. 😂

[@gabrielsigrist1535]

Just a small detail. I've also noticed that the place were we find Sword Of St.Trina is called "Forsaken Ruins", in Caelid. Maybe a foreshadowing for what's to come.

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

Interesting that Jolan helps fight the Tree Sentinels, considering how/where you find her sister.

[@665Sunshine]

I must be missing something... what connection do the Tree Sentinels have with Rabbath's Rise? You mean because we have to pass through Shaman Village to drop down? And this may be completely unrelated, but what do you make of Anna being in the puppet position when we find her? Could Rabbath have been a collector like Seluvis? Or was Anna a part of Seluvis' collection initially, and just lent her out to one of his Preceptor/Sorcerer buddies?

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

@@665Sunshine No, you're not missing something. The connection is as you thought. Tree Sentinals guard Shaman village, going through Shaman village is the only way to get to Anna. Jolan helps you to find her sister, essentially. Not sure about the rest, I don't think there is much, if any, more lore for Rabbath.

[@lynxeyedlykos]

I think it's more due to the path being on the way to the second finger ruins area.

[@The_Magus_Teacher]

Don’t know if anyone caught on to this but the Death Knight Armor Reveals Godwyn the Goldens connection to the round table. The image of Godwyn on the tattered cape shows Godwyn holding a Axe, a Axe that looks incredibly similar to the Axe imbedded in the Round table.

[@AXE-oi3gg]

Roundtable axe is meant to represent Godfrey as the lord of the Tarnished

[@blizzardgaming7070]

​@@AXE-oi3ggGodfrey's axe is double headed, the one in the table and on the death knight cape and axes is single headed possibly taking after Godwyn's weapon.

[@aroudingo]

2:15 being an avid invader, you get plenty of chances to see enemies in their idle state. Giving you a really good time to look up close at their details! I have 3.5K hours in this game, and I invade a ton… always stopping to peek at AFK enemies and taking notes for my own lore research! It’s amazing

[@DredgenGhost]

Seek grass

[@aroudingo]

@@DredgenGhost I’ll seek your rune arc 😈

[@freeyt-jz6tf]

145 days in about 2.5 years. Either you do almost nothing else, or you're lying. My guess is you're lying.

[@aroudingo]

@@freeyt-jz6tf well 2 of those years I was bed ridden sick

[@freeyt-jz6tf]

@@aroudingo ah then continue on, my bad.

[@collinb9782]

I think the most likely thing Midra’s head would be is the original version of Nanaya’s torch, though i wish we wouldve gotten a frenzied flame transformation similar to the lamenter & dragon forms using his head. Maybe some dataminers will find some unused assets and someone will make a mod out of it!

[@Cameron42080]

They have made a mod out of it! I saw it on a short awhile ago

[@Wolfgang_von_Caelid]

That could be it, there is that new glowing head torch on the DLC as well. Would have actually been cooler if it was Midra's head

[@RobMattsson]

I summoned Jolan for the tree sentinel just because it was weird that she was there. Kind of makes sense with how close that ends up being to where u access Anna's puppet

[@nothappyboi9453]

I put my bleed dry leaf arts and left the arena looking like Omni man after he beat Mark. “THINK LEDA,DANE, FREYJA, MOORE”

[@screech3859]

With the Lamenter, when you said black flame and face on its back, I thought Godskin.

[@xm4339]

11:20 Horns surely have something to with the Giants as the Talisman of All Crucible states that the talisman sprouted upon Giants and is the "mother of Crucibles"

[@usamimi-no-majo]

There's a few consistent tidbits about the "visage that haunts their dreams/nightmares"(Omenkiller Mask, Furnace Visage, maybe even dialogue from Ymir), so maybe that's what manifests on the Lamenter? Taking to account the black flame, maybe it's some kind of parallel or twin to the Fell God? It frustrates me that we got zero lore on the god-slaying black flame and the Gloam-Eyed Queen in this expansion, it feels so weird. xD

[@Trideastros]

Yeah and it's crazy how little we know about melina, she's makes so much impact in the game even just by guiding us and burning the tree but all we have are theories 😮

[@eRpeGiee]

5:45 I believe that Midra's head could have somehow been combined with Nanaya's torch. The description of the torch says "A torch made by attaching a dying flame of frenzy to a small spinal column". So Midra's head + Torch spine, Maybe something would be created from these matching items

[@domsnow6418]

This DLC only further cements my opinion that Elden Ring is the absolute GOAT

[@masque9446]

For me, BB is the undisputed GOAT and nothing comes close really. I really enjoy Lovecraftian horror and I like the Victorian London aesthetic more than medieval. That said, Elden Ring is def in my top 10 games of all time.

[@djspit8929]

​@@masque9446 if you think about it elden ring has lovecraftian, cosmic horror elements to it too. The fingers, the stars, scarlet rot, "bloodflame", all unexplainable alien forces holding influence over the world. Its just less obvious, requires a little more digging

[@elijahpunzalan7798]

@@masque9446too bad sony gatekeeping

[@greenbean4422]

Those Putrescent Sorcerer Babies remind me of D, Hunter of the Dead. He also has a baby-like piece to his armor and he even holds it as such, maybe he is afflicted in the same way these Sorcerers are? If so that might help explain how D essentially "dies" and is reborn through his twin almost in the same way those mushrooms come to life through sapping the energy of the sorcerers.

[@warmak4576]

Nah D has 2 bodies 1 soul, his armor holds the same head but silver, not a baby.

[@greenbean4422]

@@warmak4576 right but how does D's soul transfer from body to body? That's something we never really fully understand. It would make sense that a "rebirth" probably akin to what the sorcerers are experiencing, is similar to what D experienced

[@warmak4576]

@@greenbean4422 Well first off, Darian dosen;t transfer, when Fia kills D and you give the armor to his brother he takes revange of Fia for killing his brother not himself and when you kill him he says 'Forgive me, Darian' so it was his brother cosplaying as D. Second: we see that Marika and Miquella can split their body with Radagon and St. Trina so maybe D also has that seeing as his brother is much more different then him. Third: the dead dudes have dead babies, how can you respawn if the dude you want to respawn in is also dead? Fourth: 0 items or lore mentions about the dudes so gl with that.

[@ramoraid]

​​@@greenbean4422you can find D's twin before he even gets killed by FIA and he is seen "sleeping". The reality is that the soul moves between bodies and each the soul iin this depiction is only providing the spark to allow one body to work at a time. It's like having one power supply but 2 computers.

[@greenbean4422]

@@ramoraid that seems to depict exactly what I'm describing in essence: D never dies he just is reborn in another body with another personality- the soul still persists between deaths the same way that people die in this world and their life fuel is used for nourishment for new life in the form of mushrooms, new plants, new life, etc I feel like you're not understanding my analogy at all and am just dumping lore on me- I know everything you said to me already it's very basic stuff

[@epiccthulu]

Midra’s head was going to be a Medusa head of Madness, that I am sure of. But I assume maddness is in that deathblight hole

[@masque9446]

yeah it is...neither madness nor deathblight work on 99.9999% of the enemies in the game. Really shitty imo

[@ohiowrslr14]

Great video as always, lots of cool lore stuff starting to get uncovered that I had no clue about! The Moorth ruins bit makes a lot of sense, but it gets me wondering about the importance of that settlement before Rellana turned it into a crater. Considering it houses 2 curseblades guarding 2 upgrade materials, a Miquella cross, and the crossroads for about 3 different paths to new areas, it leads me to believe that had to be a pretty important Hornsent settlement before Messmer's siege - especially with the ruins hiding the path that leads to Gaius, Metyr, the Shaman Village, and the Scadutree Avatar.

[@ohiowrslr14]

Also not relevant at all but a fun bit of trivia, you can technically get through the DLC with only 3 bosses: if you take the path to behind the Fort of Reprimand, that allows you to get to Scadu Altus without fighting Rellana. Then, if you take the path to the Shadow Keep back section from the Church District, you can drop down onto the main Shadow Keep path without fighting the hippo. Therefore you can get to Messmer with zero bosses fought, get his kindling, then beat Romina for the sealing tree to unlock Enir Ilim and the final boss. I'm sure this is well known atp in the speedrunning community, but I found it to be a really cool bit of routing that doesn't require any crazy jumps or skips, and shows off how open the Realm of Shadow map really is!

[@GSR_54]

About the Lamenter i think it proves that the hornsent used fire giants in the pots, that said it corroborates my theory thar Marika is the "saint" created in one of the pots and that radagon apeared after that, and his red hair was caused by the addition of fire giant flesh in the mix

[@tanikstheabomination9743]

I like this theory a lot

[@hugocanot7963]

I also thought of the Tower of Babel when I first saw Enir-Ilim, which makes even more sense when you realize that the Ancient Ruins of Rauh look a lot like the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, which historically are supposed to be near the Tower of Babel. I'm pretty sure these two areas are a reference to that.

[@hardin_of_astora]

I think the DLC is a good hint on what the next FromSoft game will look like: a few truly huge massive "legacy dungeons" with an open word being more vertical and less "just big in its horizontality" with more magic/faith (according to some reddit leaks, eg Spellbound). Myazaki said that ER was almost his perfect game, but in another interview he said he would like to explore some more esoteric concepts. If it is true that the next story collaborator is Brandon Sanderson, oh boy, it is gonna be a wild ride 😎

[@Nirob615]

Also my butterfingers butt died to the second tree sentinel, but this happening for some reason removed the ability to summon Jolan. I wonder what causes that, but this dlc is riddled with weird little bugs so it could just be one of them. Another is using certain ashes of war before Obsidian Llamia's ash of war will change the final swing of it's combo attack. One in particular (endure) just takes out the final swing of the combo and CCs you instead for a couple seconds it's weird. Using blood tax on a random weapon then switching to Relanna's blades will change the magic part of it's ash of war too. After using blood tax the final hit of Renalla's blade's ash of war magic combo will end with a random blood blade swing.

[@titaniumteddybear]

11:13 Having a big face on your back is a sign of being a Godskin. And they also use Black Flame. I think the Lamenter was a Godskin who was put into a pot, with a person who had red hair, causing their amalgamation.

[@hanssundqvist1781]

Yep, i was thinking Godskin too.

[@Rusty_Spy]

That's just how they fashion they're clothes

[@shnorkeythefourth4572]

@@Rusty_SpyI would assume the clothes being made of flesh would merge in the pot as well and who else other than a godskin would have such clothes?

[@Enyrm]

Another fun fact about the Putrescent Sorcerors - they are reskinned Grand Archives Scholars from DS3. Just watch their stance and their melee attacks!

[@thedeadmemetrain8757]

The Lamenter's Mask raises your Arcane stat too, which is generally used to represent two things: knowledge of the occult, and taking power from an outer god (as opposed to obtaining that power through worship or other means). Wonder if that has anything to do with anything,,,

[@Bloodford]

4:23 at the same time, at the very end of the game we need to fight with a crowd of NPCs who speak every time you start a fight with them, while you cannot read their dialogues normally, because they beat you non-stop

[@rafenelson7230]

The lamenter's black flame is so strange, maybe it links him to the godskins on some way ? Like maybe the face on his back isn't some fire giant type thing, but someones actual face that was skinned and stiched on ? Just seems so random

[@Truestoned0]

Have you noticed that the sealing tree and the black tree that wraps around the scadu tree seem to be the same

[@tonyg255]

Now im hype about a sumerian and ancient mythology in Elden Ring video.

[@whatimthinking]

Time for the storm the Ziostorm

[@LecroixMystique00]

I think the Shadow Tower, and even Messmer, are a Castlevania tribute

[@Travar1410]

Ramen-a! Lol sounds like my favorite food turned into a boss

[@Red-Arcadian]

Shows NPC calling herself Yo-lan still pronounces it Joe-lan.

[@MeowMixBro]

The Lemantor, Fire Giant, and the Goskin dou have something in common. I think the tall skin peeler takes inspiration from the Lemantor, which takes inspiration from the Giants. Just a cool train of thought.

[@Charles_S09]

10:41 I feel like the black flame and the face on the back could be reminiscent of the Godskin Nobles/Apostles and their attire.

[@Pe37777]

I really don’t understand why fromsoft last minute decides to cut content. Like even if it’s just a voice line it’s still nice to get as much as we can.

[@RoninWaffle]

9:34 I guarantee you there is probably an episode of Ancient Aliens asking why this ancient Sumerian bird-person carving is wearing wristwatches lmao

[@bugiecat5575]

You can summon Freyja against Rugalea the Bear in North lower Rauh ruins too. Another oddly placed summon sign near the two greater runebears

[@gagegrogan4352]

I was able to summon Jolan for the tree sentinels and I thought it was such a weird place for a summon but so cool to know I could’ve summoned her for Messmer as well 👏

[@SwitchFeathers]

Worth mentioning in regards to the Lamentor form and the Fire Giants: there's item descriptions in the DLC that specifically mention the Flame of Ruin, and how it "tormented" the Hornsent, meaning that the Fire Giants and the Fell Flame were all not only known to the Hornsent civilisation, they were considered enemies. It's likely this is part of why the Lamentors were locked away, given that they seem to be a fucked up hybrid between Hornsent and Fire Giant, they'd likely be considered abominable.

[@koreboar4646]

Baby swaddling might be a reference to Dark Souls 1 Banshees who use their dead ghost babies to cast their necromantic spells, and Elden rings hexes require living sacrifice to cast i.e. ghostflame

[@bzopz3166]

The sorcerers in the dungeons are reminiscent of Raya Lucaria sorcerers, they swing the swords/books the same way, their whole stance is similar too. They also have beards that look like the stone crowns in the base game.

[@LiloDemon]

I just finished the DLC for a second time and did Thiollier and Ansbachs Quest. While I got Thiollier set you could see his body was moving and he was sleeeping.

[@WILDFIRE1441]

here's something that's been bothering me, the fall down to the putresent knight, near st trina, the shape of that hole makes me feel like I've seen it before, at first I thought of a cursemark, but it didn't fit, then the black knife, and, kinda? but not much, idk, might be worth looking at a bit or maybe I'm just mad lol

[@vera39440]

it looks like the scar under Melina's eye

[@qarabo4355]

one cool thing i stumbled upon accidently last night, the obsidian lamina has a built in ash of war, dynastic sickleplay, nothing special there. but apparently if you use flame spear on the fire knight great sword and switch to the obsidian lamina the ash of war has a completely different animation and stays that way until you die. it happened to me once accidently last night and i thought it was some bug at first but tried it again and it was happening consistently.

[@blunderbass851]

the babies on the sorcerors makes a lot of sense with how much this dlc is about parents/lineage. introducing them in the same package as the _mother_ of fingers and much more detail on marika (including her relationship with her son Messmer) really comes together nicely

[@ohno-x8m]

9:05 Cue the Chozo temple music for the Bird Warriors. My man and his Metroid Prime speakin my language.

[@anthonypedraza3017]

Madra's head item ws likely scrapped and then replaced with that one head lantern you get from the lamented. It also has an FP cost ability and has an eery yellow light akin to Frenzied Flame. They probably changed it being Midra's head for story reasons.

[@Anarchisity]

I also came here to say that the Ash of War: Revenge of the Night, that you get on the Shield of Night, is VERY OP. It's a very powerful ranged guard counter, which can be buffed in multiple ways seeing how it's a weapon skill etf

[@doubledeputyd4242]

The putrescent sorcerers were probably a lot like the putrescent Knight where they were tied to the Gloam eyed Queen until they cut it.

[@robbiereed4462]

On the lamenter form: I did notice the face on the body, but I didn’t notice the red hair or black flames. 🔥

[@DanDukeBox]

The hard nudge to any liars at the end 😬😂

[@Fronsky-mj5tk]

I supported Messmer when I reqched Enir Ilim. The Hornsent were building a Tower of Babel out of corpses.

[@kamalar3821]

The lamenter really got that demon back

[@Noizzed]

Zio really got that dawg in him

[@thomaschitham3487]

Very interesting note about the Lamenter. Good eye. This would further reinforce what can be read in the "Talisman of all Crucibles", which item desc. reads: _A giant mass of intermingling Crucible attributes. Reduces damage taken from critical hits and head shots and improves the effectiveness of rolling and backstepping, but also increases damage taken at all times. _*_Rumored to have sprouted upon giants and is known as the "mother of Crucibles" in ancient tower lore._* Combine that with the Furnace Golems and their visages - both the appearance and description* of the collectable ones, and the appearance of the ones on their hips - and now this, this all further paints the picture that the Giants, the Omens, the Fell God and the Crucible are all related somehow. Makes you wonder how Radagon connects to this all...and what's with the black flames and projectiles? Plus the invisibility and misery? Hmmm, some connection to Destined Death, but without the power of the Rune... but how, and why? I suppose Omens do have a connection to DD through their ability to see evil spirits that haunt their nightmares, and their ability to call upon wraiths. Plus the sky in the Dung Eater's Age of Despair ending is very similar to the sky in Godwyn's dream. Hmmm... *Description reads as: _A smaller imitation of the furnace golem's visage. Material used for crafting items. Exceedingly rare to find. A stone mask surrounded by curled horns, depicting the fell god of fire that haunts the sagas of the hornsent._

[@t-mango2491]

4:18 more than likely the pink kindred of rot, and the “tower” being rauh in this case, or quite literally calling the horn sent the “tower folk” I believe they’re called as such somewhere else

[@MEISMUDKIPS]

I actually used jolan as a messmer summon on my first playthrough, did way too much exploring before fighting the major bosses

[@Darkrocmon]

The lamenter and fire giant connection can be as simple as the law of regression and everything converging on similar things

[@SirAxelGrimnir703]

I love the Lamenter form. I was using a build I called Pan for a bit.

[@Gurt_The_Hurt]

I didn't know Dane didn't talk. I got his death dialogue from the fight first time as he just happened to be the last alive.

[@bartmongiello]

I mean, they were pretty clear that there were Hornsent giants. There’s even one in the storeroom. Maybe these giant Hornsent were once imprisoned for some reason and much the same way the blind prisoners found the red star, these found some connection to the Gloam-eyed Queen. It’s not just the giants that have faces on their bodies. The outfits of the Godskins have faces on their backs specifically as well. Maybe they’re modeled after these guys?

[@SparkVulpa]

7:45 It's pronounced 'Yolan' despite the 'J'. You gotta listen carefully to the characters - as you mentioned, Dane's dialogue is no secret, and neither is Jolan's pronunciation ahaha

[@SamuraiJM]

The bit w/ the lamenters is further expanded upon with the Furnace Visages. The Hornsent feared the Fell God, so I assume they were against Fire Giants in general. What would cause a Hornsent to transform into a Fire Giant like being, and what would it have to do with Blackflame?

[@lilbigphil9134]

Does anyone else think, that next to the sealing tree sit monumentals. They also sit in ledas boss arena like in the nexus.

[@thirstymoosegaming3078]

That last one about lame tees was interesting, it definitely fits.

[@rezz__emiya5948]

I summoned Jolán during the fight with messmer and i thought it was really cool considering i hadnt heard a single KZbinr talking about it.

[@JFlintstone1]

In the lore of the fell god, it would manifest itself on individuals, mainly the giants. There is lore that the Hornsent feared the fell god and it is possible the fell god appeared on the lamenter and then they sealed him away.

[@Synode21]

That Metroid Prime 2 ost, god bless.

[@ryanbuck3383]

I think midras head would have been a tool like lamentors mask, giving the tarnished the frenzied head

[@Lexsed]

08:07 many people miss this on repeat playthroughs especially since Jolan cannot be summoned if you go visit BOTH finger ruins before returning to Ymir, as at that stage it triggers the next part of the quest, entirely skipping the "Jolan will help you now" part.

[@heliosspecialistarrogant7031]

He did not speak about how merika statue in the dlc got a amazing cake

[@theawickward2255]

'Children of the Tower' probably refers to the Hornsent; she means denizens of Belurat, Tower Settlement.

[@omnomnomify]

If you go into ng+ while still wearing a transformation, you'll remain transformed during the starting cutscene and chapel of anticipation area

[@kennyg3118]

Maybe Lamenters were the original Godskins that after Marika beat the fell god of the giants and took the giants' skin as well as the hornsent and made armor of it and wielded blackflame. Maybe she would also wear Radagon as a living trophy forcing his allegiance with her becoming one that way.

[@jamesshaver2376]

Midras head probably would have been super annoying in pvp. It’s probably like the frenzy flame fireballs that bounce around

[@wolfiemuse]

4:29 I do think it might have gotten annoying - when you summon Florissax, she can get a little annoying every time she does the AoW

[@TAZMASTA40]

I got jolan on my first play through didnt know that was a hidden thing 😂

[@OverSeer939]

Just found this now but you can also summon Jolan for the ghostflame dragon in the cerulean coast as well

[@metalsludge8205]

2:35 the babies they carry look similar to the Ailment Talisman, maybe its description has reference to them?

[@lashedvenom]

With Midras head, I like to believe they didn't include it because they might want to emphasize that the lord of frenzy didn't replace him, but he became the lord of frenzy. I think that's more clearly stated if his head is not replaced but kind of assumed to turn into the eye of frenzy?

[@deimos39]

I am almost convinced that Midra's head would have given us the Frenzyflame Sauron head, maybe as another transformation...

[@blrk_]

Aw man imagine if midras head was another transformation item that lets you get a flame of frenzy like transformation

[@jingchaoye]

Romina is a tower folk, the messmer trailer shows her sitting down defeated in a cut scene.

[@sigma0443]

I wanted Midra's head like as I wear a lantern.. and I want it to say "DEPTHS OF YOUR FOOLISHNESS" each time I die in a boss fight

[@omerozel4716]

In one of the DLCs Gaols there is a spirit NPC who begs about not using glass. Now i have the weird headcanon that those useless glass shards we find in the world had once a use in inflicting pain on those Shamans when put into Jars together with the glass.

[@Diesalot-sc9qz]

Maybe the Lamenter was a herald or even an Empyrean for the Fell God, and was rejected because he worshipped an entity considered demonic by the Hornsent. Also, the architecture of Rauh resembles the ancient architecture we see scattered around Limgrave, Caelid and Mountaintops.

[@omerozel4716]

Makes me question though. The dialogues may be cut but we can hear deathsounds when we kill a boss like Romina. So those actors did more than just dialogue but also stuff like breathing and dying.

[@SerPodrick]

Midra's head item likely would have used the 'madness scream' attack. Seems too spamable of an AOE

[@j-lohome-slice7425]

The large death root that took the fire giants, i feel something may be related to the lamenter there

[@ExiStrife]

Midra's head was most likely a seal - It was probably what Boss Midra would have had in his left hand as his seal, instead of the shard/thorn from the Greatsword of Damnation.

[@chucheeness7817]

When reviewing my captured fights with Rellana, I found out that when you defeat her she does a death scream similar to how the young female character sounds. It for some reason has really low volume though

[@Mischievous_Moth]

I have to wonder if the Lamenter form is somehow connected to the gloam eyed queen, kind of like how the giants are connected to their god and that's why they have it's face on their chest. But then it would beg to reason that the face would be feminine and this looks masculine, or maybe it just looks like a witch? So many questions...

[@danielloureiro8650]

5:50 maybe a transformation like dragon form where you use it and a frenzied head apear like the one in midra or in the frenzied flame ending

[@KuraSourTakanHour]

I think they got ride of Midras head item because they already had the head torch in the Lamenter Gaol